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LordIsaac:
All the signs are in the Bible; a corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruits.

Please list a few so that people can learn. Maybe just one or two. Please

DeepSight:
tctrills. As if your God wanted to help me debate you.

I don't understand. What's going on?

Zacka12:
Stop drinking the agenda juice Brother.

The true leaders of the Black Community in the U.S are never given resources and other forms of empowernent. It's the ones that go against the Black Community that are empowered by the judeo-xtian system of slavery and indoctrination. Meaning, if you don't follow their way, you will be eliminated.

When Black Nationalist Movements were forming in the U.S to push for self-determination and sovereignty, didn't you hear stories of assassinations and sabotage? And even when the Blacks pushed for the civil rights movement because U.S didn't want their seperation, they were still killing original Black civil rights leaders.

These killings and intimidations prevented what would have been the emergence of a Black Nation in the Americas.

Oga, today no one is killing black leaders. Today, blacks have all the freedom they need to grow and thrive.

So again, I ask who are the leaders of the black community today and what are they doing for their people?

Today, a Nigerian would come to America, discover great opportunity and thrive. But a black American who is given far greater opportunity than the Nigerian would continue dwindling.

This is clearly a case of lack of leadership and direction. The opportunities are there but the culture of excellence is missing

For the left, it's always emotion, no facts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWM8cPh-OE?si=GP5iePEk6ntiBuhq

LordIsaac:
Look for Jesus...you'd know if He is not there.

How would you know? What are the signs. That's the question.

AntiChristian:
You don't get shii! What's my business with anyone in government? You guys are quick to mix politics with religion when it favours you! Even if Jesus comes to rule you you'll still reject him. Is democracy Christianity?

That's why someone will call some group in a party structure of criminality and later join them with an analogy that Jesus always frolicked with prostitutes and co!

Were the 12 disciples prostitutes? Mary Magdalene and other women, are they?

Now I am no longer getting you. You seem to be saying that Christian politicians are corrupt and the hide behind their religion right?

If this is your point, I completely agree with you but it's the same for you the Muslims.

Arguably the worst leader Nigeria has had (Tinubu) is a Muslim, Buhari was a Muslim leader and they both hide behind the veil of religion. Nigerians got notably poorer under these 2 faithful Muslims.

It's painfully the same when we have corrupt Christians in power.

AntiChristian:
Did they teach you about "context" in school? Learn to contextualise! Jesus had many followers during his time, why didn't he get then into politics to make the world a better place?

I understood your point completely. You don't want Christians in position of power and you back it by telling us that Jesus Christ did not get into politics.
It's so clear what you are advocating for, a world where Christians stay away from political power and leave it up to the Muslims.

I fully understand your motives.

Should I also stop eating cheese burger because Jesus Christ never ate it?

Christians in the house, this is for you. It is clear that we don't have unity in the faith hence different churches.

This makes it really hard to decide which is the best place to worship God in truth and spirit.

So, let the bible be the guide. Can you suggest ways, signs and things to look out for when choosing a church.

Please let's depend on the bible for this.

Let me begin with the most obvious, The church should be centered around Jesus Christ. We learn that the church belongs to Him, He built the church.

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Now over to you, list your guidelines and scriptural backing.

NaijaGoBetter2:
This is the reason to ordered the killing of 158 Muslims children. I’m not surprised bible ordered killing as well in 1 Samuel 15:3

“Now go and attack Amalek, and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

The same God gave the order of killing in Gaza and Iran

Hallelujah

Maybe God hates terrorism and is in support of those who dedicate themselves to rooting it out

AntiChristian:
I see no point in all these! Jesus should have joined the rulers during his time.

Even Paul too should have!

Same Pete Hegseth that has been consistently shamed almost every day by the Congressmen!

When they need sympathy they just switch on the religious card! The race card won't work here and the odds are always against the Muslims!

You are all over the place my guy. What is your point and how did this end with the Muslims.
You seem to be saying that because Jesus did not join the rulers during his time, Christians should not, maybe we should leave all leadership for you the Muslims. No wonder you ended by complaining about the odds being against the Muslims.

GracieX3:
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence

Deepsight, even after being found innocent, your leftist girl is still accusing Kyle of very serious crimes. Would you tell her to her face that she is a racist or does this only apply to Trump.

GracieX3:
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence

Even after being found completely innocent, you are accusing Kyle of bringing a gun with the intent to kill. Why are you not a racist? How are you different from Trump

GracieX3:
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence

So, you are saying Kyle brought a gun with the intent to kill. That alone is a crime.
And you are saying that Kyle committed manslaughter but the Jury deemed it self defense.

Is it not clear that you are a racist by your standards.
Kyle was not found guilty of carrying a gun with the intent to kill.
He was found innocent of manslaughter but you still accuse him even when the Jury says otherwise.

You are not different from Trump. You are guilty of the standards you set.
You said for Kyle, it could have been manslaughter but the Jury says it was self-defence, it couldn't have been manslaughter.

You are no different from Trump, you only believe what you choose to believe.

Now you have created your new set of laws to justify calling Kyle a murderer.

It is a shame. But then, the left feels no shame

DeepSight:
Why are you like this, why are you trying to mangle what I said

I completely understood what you said. But you never knew that the standard you set for Trump would apply to you.
Was Trump racist when he accused the kids from New York?
Are you racist when you accuse Trump
Please show me why we should treat you differently?

Mr DeepSight
Back to the abortion issue.
Am I right to summarise your take like this,
It's up to the individual to decide when abortion becomes killing a human being.
It is only when the mother decides that it is a human being in her womb that it becomes a human being. Until she decides, it is whatever she says it is.

DeepSight:
Tctrills, bemeruca, raumdeuter

Stop setting standards you are unable to keep. By you very own standard, you are a racist if you accuse one of being guilty with out it being proven.
The only question for you here is was Trump found guilty?
You again accuse him of abusing minors.
Please leave up to the standard you set.

TV01:
...ah ! You'd have more joy with plankton . Indiscriminately firing neurons aplenty.


TV

You are 100% correct. I can bet the leftist lady will deflect and never answer the question.

This is what leftist like GracieX3 do, they would accuse a conservative of some evil then the moment they commit the same supposed evil, they look for any irrelevant difference as the reason why they are always right.

In the case of this leftist lady.
It's ok to accuse Kyle of murder because he was he was defending himself but Trump is a racist when he accuse some kids of murder because it was not a self defense case. Hugeeee difference.

DeepSight:
Tctrills, bemeruca, raumdeuter

You realise that the federal government sued Trump and they ended settling out of court and the Trump cooperation did not pay and fine or settlement fee.

By your earlier logic, you are racist for accusing Trump of something he wasn't found guilty of.

It seems leftist laws never apply to leftist.
Anyway, I believe Trump's side of the story.

After the government filed United States v. Trump Management Inc., Trump and his lawyer strongly denied all allegations.

1. ❌ “We did not discriminate”
Trump said his company followed the law and rented to qualified tenants
He rejected claims that Black applicants were treated differently

Any rejections were based on finances, not race”
Trump’s side argued:
Tenants were accepted or rejected based on income and ability to pay rent
Not race

Please apply the same standard you expect from Trump. You can't suggest he is guilty unless proven in court.

GracieX3:
Apples to oranges. Kyle killed 2 people. It could easily have been murder but it was judged to be self defence. Had Kyle purchased the gun or carried it over from his house (across state lines) he would have been jailed for manslaughter.

As for the Cental park 5, there was nothing linking them to the crime. Trump only had race to go on.

So correct me if I am wrong, according to leftist logic, it is ok and not racism to accuse an innocent person of murder only in cases of self defense. But other cases outside self defense, you will be a racist to accuse one of murder. Am I wrong.

Please can you also tie OJ Simpson's case to this because many whites still say he is guilty. His case was not self defense, are they racists?

GracieX3:
Apples to oranges. Kyle killed 2 people. It could easily have been murder but it was judged to be self defence. Had Kyle purchased the gun or carried it over from his house (across state lines) he would have been jailed for manslaughter.

As for the Cental park 5, there was nothing linking them to the crime. Trump only had race to go on.

Just excuses.
Bottom line Kyle was completely innocent. Killing 2 people in self defense doesn't give you the moral right to accuse him of murder.

But let's work with your brain here.
Please explain why it is not racism to accuse someone of murder when he only defended himself. Explain why this is a special case. Take me through your thought process

GracieX3:
The standard is that you don't claim somebody is guilty without evidence. You don't also claim that they are guilty when they have been exonerated with the actual culprit being caught later.

Trump is a racist for doing the above.

So everyone that claimed Kyle was guilty is a racist by your standards and that also applies to OJ Simpson's.

All the leftists that claimed Kyle was guilty of murder are racist do you agree because we have many of them on this page.

On the other hand, I think everyone is free to think and express their thoughts. If you feel someone is guilty even after the jury finds him innocent, you are free to say so. You could be wrong but it has zero connection with racism.

You leftist love to control speech and what others think. Totally not acceptable.

I wouldn't call anyone that accused Kyle a racist, I could call them foolish or ignorant but not racist.

DeepSight:
I was checking to see if they would be able to draw a line there. But not for many. Many dont realize it but Trump is equal to God for them. This is true for many Christians.

So it's up to you to decide where Catholics draw the line.
Both Trump and the Pope are humans. There is no law in Christianity that says one must hate Trump because he isn't in good terms with the Pope

DeepSight:
If you know in your heart that you cannot ever criticize Trump, then know in your heart that unknown to you, you worship him.

So your goal here is to check my heart.
Ok, let me make you happy to see if by your rules, I am qualified to criticise him.
I completely criticise his visa and immigration policies towards countries like Nigeria.
Now by your standards, do I officially qualify to fight against the evil called leftism?

DeepSight:
The problem is that if you can't see anything wrong he ever does it's good grounds to disqualify you as an objective discussant

It's also funny how you want Trump Catholic followers to begin hating him just because he has problems with the Pope. Why should that be the case.

DeepSight:
The problem is that if you can't see anything wrong he ever does it's good grounds to disqualify you as an objective discussant

So, the rule is that I need to criticise him first then I will be permitted to join the discussion. I dont agree with that line of thought.

Online, I am here to express conservative principles not to be all over the place.

We all have our online priorities. Just like the war in Sudan is not your business, you rather talk about Israel even though you are African

DeepSight:
Because most of you are blind cult followers who worship him as God. Asking for a criticism is a test to see if you can ever disagree with your God. 99% of you fail.

And people even here have asked for me to criticize Obama and co and I have - heavy criticisms for that matter, not light irrelevant ones like some of you try to sneakily do with Trump as proof of being objective.

If people ask me to critize any one, I definitely wouldn't. Why would I criticize someone just to please you? That's not right. And you making a big deal out of our not criticizing Trump is a non-issue to me.
For example, I love Peter Obi, and I don't criticize him online, should that disqualify me from criticizing Tinubu and his failed government? I dont think so

DeepSight:
How dare you accuse me of being rude, what effrontery, speaking to your humble, calm, gentle, amiable, friendly, peace loving senior in such a brat like manner? Kneel down at once.

It is funny that you leftists demand that we criticize Trump, but we have never asked you guys to accuse or criticize Obama, Biden, or even Kamala. Why do you guys require that we criticize Trump? I dont get it

DeepSight:
You are Catholic then and you have reduced the pope to a political leader for the sake of Trump.
You should be excommunicated.

The Pope is the political leader of the Vatican. I did not reduce him; it is his role. And let's say I am Catholic, and calling the Pope the leader of the Vatican is an excommunicable offense, so what next?

DeepSight:
Not having a single criticism is evidence of blind and cult followership. There is no leader of whom a rational person can have no criticism, speak less of a loquacious, rude and divisive leader.

Not really, I told you we agree 95% of the time. The 5% are very minor. It makes no sense to discuss the 5% when there is so much going on.
You are very rude, but I dont really care. Come to think about it, I dont like the way Tinubu speaks, but I have never criticised him for that because it is inconsequential. There are bigger things to be worried about. I never criticized Biden for talking like a fool

DeepSight:
I am trying to see, since you have never criticised Trump, if his utterances against the Pope would be enough to evoke a criticism - if you are Catholic.

Why should I criticise Trump? Our political views allign 95% of the time, as for the 5% diffrence, it doesn't deserve public criticism.

[quote author=DeepSight post=139279896]If you are, I want to hear your view on Trumps attacks on the Pope.
Two political leaders. No difference from Trump attacking the Canadian prime minister.


I was only providing context to show you its quite different from the case of the kids. I did not say my view.
Every single case is different, so unless you show why one is racist and the other isn't, or why you're calling Trump a child molester isn't, you are not really saying much. So dont tell me that the cases are different because that means nothing

DeepSight:
Wrong prompt. I said from what is in the public space. Not just what is in the Epstein files.

Almost half of those files are still hidden / redacted at least much of the key evidence. And that is illegal. And also what is in the public space makes it obvious why.

Please, what do you mean by public space? You mean outside of Epstein, there is strong evidence of Trump being a child abuser? Oga, if you can't present the public space evidence against Trump by your own standard, are you not a racist?