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DeepSight:
It's no use.
I thank heavens I brought this up.

It has helped me in my journey to understanding fully that it's hopeless with these chaps.

Of course, when we don't agree with you, you throw tantrums. The world doesn't work the way you feel

DeepSight:
I have heard. Good luck and thank you. Please spare me the notice of y o u r putrid self in future.

So cultures grow from their history of hardship and become great. Ask the Irish people. While so learn nothing and become entitled. Ask the black Americans you pretend to be defending

DeepSight:
Thank you and good luck.

As of 2025–2026, data from the Census Bureau and the Migration Policy Institute shows that Nigerian Americans significantly outperform the national average in higher education and are more likely to hold high-skill management and professional roles.

Nigerian Americans hold one of the highest rates of advanced degrees in the country.

The US is the best place to be a black man. But when blacks get entitled the miss all the opportunities the country provides.

Stop blaming a system that works perfectly well when we take advantage of it.

Teach your black Americans to take advantage of the system.

DeepSight:
Thank you and good luck.

No country is perfect but the US is one of the more perfect nations and the very best place to be a black man.

IjeBos:
Huh?
Can you pretend that you are at least in touch with reality?
Jews are one of the most protected groups of people in the world.
You can't even criticize Israel the country without shouts of antisemitism.

It's really easy just to say things that sound good, innit?
History and reality doesn't seem align with the things that come out of your mouth.

Sorry, I didn't read what you wrote. Move on

DeepSight:
Thank you and good luck.

Do you know why Nigerians succeed in the US? Today, Nigerian American are some of the most educated demographic in the nation.
We succeed because we are grateful to be in the US and we discover the countless opportunities the country offers a black man that our motherland Africa doesn't.

On the other hand, the black American blames America, hates America and refuses to make good use of their opportunity.

The feel so entitled so they never grow.

DeepSight:
There's no basis for an intelligent discussion.

That's your choice. I believe what you call an intelligent discussion is when people in your WhatsApp group gather to hate the whites and to police speech and look for anyone to call a racist.
If that's what makes you intelligent, I don't want that type of intelligence.

An intelligent person identifies his problem and takes responsibility and doesn't play the blam game

DeepSight:
There is no basis to continue any discussion or interaction with you.

You don't have to discuss with me. But then again, you don't need to lie against the dead to prove your point.

Let me advise you.
You need to remove the hatred in your heart. The white man is not your enemy.
You also need to take responsibility of your life and destiny and stop the blame game.
The Jews did not get to where they are by crying and blaming. The Koreans are another great example.
Every race, every people have their peculiar challenges but the solution has never been to blame others.

Black America has received more than 6 trillion dollars in entitlement benefits.

America shed blood to end black slavery. The US has given them enough to make them great.

What more do they want?

DeepSight:
You don't know what you are saying when you talk about the worst of white culture. You have exhausted me with the unbelievable. I am tired. I just wanted to open this thread for posterity. Good luck.

This boy.
You could hate the whites for all you want but the truth remains. The leading cause of death of young black men in the US is gun shot from another black man. That is the culture of wild beasts.

When we ask blacks begin to tell ourselves the truth that's when we will begin to make changes.

Let's look at abortions.
A black baby is 4 times more likely to be killed by his own mother in the womb than a white child.

This is the culture of murder. It's an evil culture.
And it can't be blamed on the whites. Blacks did this to themselves

DeepSight:
Good heavens. Where could an enslaved person go? Jesus I can't believe a human being is writing these things.

How about a segregated person. During segregation, 75% of black fathers remained at home.
Again your answer above seems to suggest that slavery was responsible for strong black families. That makes no sense.
If slavery was responsible for strong black families, then why are you blaming the whites? Or are you blaming them for putting an end to slavery?

DeepSight:
You did this to yourself.
Shameful and pathetic.

Not all blacks are disgraceful enough to sink this low.

I don't even understand your point. So I am shameful because I refuse to blame others for my problems but seek to solve my problems myself. Tell that to your kids.
Teach your kids that whites are the cause of all their problems. I teach my kids to take personal responsibility and to love all men no matter their skin colour and treat everyone as equal and expect equal treatment.
I understand you see this way of thinking as slave mentality. But in reality, it's how free men think

DeepSight:
What leads black people to have such inferiority complex that they say things like this -



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I know your answer would be the whites. But then, let's look at other groups that have been oppressed and how the turned out.
The Koreans for centuries were oppressed by both the Japanese and Chinese. They were enslaved raped and segregated.
Today, Korea is a great nation with wonderful culture.
Then the Jews, arguably the most oppressed in history. Oppressed by Romans, Christian nations and islam.
How did they turn out? Today Israel is the start up nation.
The culture is crafted and gatekept by leaders and institutions. The black problem is that of leadership and institutions.

It is not a money problem, black America has received more than 6 trillion dollars in entitlements. That's more than 20x the Nigerian economy.

When Obama became president, who did he invite to the his swearing in, gangster musicians. That explains the black nation. These are their heroes

bemeruca:
Don't waste your time with Obrigardo aka EnlightenedUFO.

I know, he is the least equipped of them all.

bemeruca:
They never find democrat politicians talking about the gun problem when all the mass shootings are going on in the black community.

If a republican talks about it or tries to do something, you will see them jump out and call those Republicans racists.

In Chicago and many cities, people were terrified, trump tried to do something and some white Karens took to the streets to protest the racism that is crime reduction. Meanwhile, black mothers and fathers in those cities are begging for help.

Dems really don't know what they want. They only thing they care about is their hatred of Trump and conservatives

DeepSight:
"The worst of white culture is better than the best of black culture in the US."

I have quoted you verbatim.

It is here for posterity.

Thank you.

I am done.

Cc: budaatum, obrigado, cococandy, LordReed, ijebos, graciex3, bayelsaowei

Yes you have quoted me. A culture that kills its own people 7x more than the whites. A culture that aborts it's babies at a higher rate than any other group. A culture of irresponsible fathers.

It is clear you don't know these things. But if you want, I will send you data and stats to educate you on the matter

budaatum:
Good, I see we are moving on.

What do you think caused the absence of black fathers, tctrills?

Black culture. We see it in their music. We see it in their way of life.
Remember, this wasn't caused by slavery. The black family was together during slavery. It wasn't caused by segregation, the black family was together during segregation.

DeepSight:
Will you stop this nonsense at once? You are trying to make out that the reference to black fathers was all he said while deliberately ignoring the reference to the time when blacks didn't have equal rights. Why do you focus on one and attempt to completely ignore the other? Dishonesty is the reason.

Secondly it has been pointed out to you multiple times that the sensible approach is to ask why there exist so many cases of parental abandonment. But no - you do not ask that. You just act as though that is black culture and tradition. That is very lazy and thoughtless and so was Kirk's argument. Worse than that, your co-travelers here, Uncle TT (Uncle T o m TV), Uncle RR (Uncle R u k u s Ram) have even said that its welfare that has made it so!

Trog* Trills, lets be clear with usage of language. When any person says "when X was the case, Y was not happening" they are making a very clear argument. No one needs to explain that. That is different from the argument that co-relation is not causality. In this case, he is not drawing a mere co-relation, he is making a causal argument. Otherwise can you tell us why he mentioned the absence of rights AT ALL? ? ? ?

*Trog is for Troglodyte.

Stop fooliing around. He clearly said the cause is the absence of black fathers. He never mentioned equal rights as the problem.

Again, you foolishly want to blame the whites for black irresponsibility. But it is so easy to disprove your argument. Please explain the below.

During slavery, black fathers did not abandon their family. During segregation 75% of black fathers remained in the family.
Now,with blacks having all their rights we have 3 or of 4 men abandoning their families. How is it the white man's fault.
If this happened during slavery or segregation, I may understand blaming the whites. So what is the white man doing to you today to break up your families that he didn't do during slavery and segregation?

Answer that biko

DeepSight:
Violence is always higher in poverty stricken neighborhoods and that in itself says a lot.
But I have never heard you complain about white culture notwithstanding all the school mass shootings and notwithstanding the fact that serial killers are mostly white.

Never, never, never will you say anything ill about that.

How can I complain about white culture being a black man. Charity begins at home.

But then, you can't even compare. The number of people killed in mass school shooting is a drop compare to black gang violence.

The worst of white culture is better than the best of black culture in US.

Now explain this, Boise Idaho is not as wealthy as Chicago yet it is less violent by all metrics. It also doesn't have tighter gun laws.
We can't explain away crime with poverty.
Could poverty play a part? Yes. But there are more important factors.

When the blacks were poorer in the 40s, the commited much less violent crime. What changed? The culture

EnlightenedUFO:
Provide the data on all the other "i-too-know" bolded nonsense you chest beating upon.
Let's see them all.

I have provided all please learn to read

Obrigardo:
Why talking all this humungous trash when you can't provide the data? Provide the raw data or gtfo
Is this ben in another account? What's with this black man hatred?

Another baseless leftist. I actually provided the data on black on black murder rate yesterday. Please scroll up and update your brain.

budaatum:
I think you are missing his point completely, either intentionally or you are letting CK fool you.

"When blacks in America did not have the same rights", is "what changed".

Basically, "when blacks in America were subjugated and controlled and oppressed, they were less murderous, there were less break-ins", is what he is claiming.

And a smart person would ask why, if that were true. But I guess we are not at that stage yet, since you are still arguing about what CK meant, which, to be honest, is a huge pity.

Not true, in the full video, he explained what changed. Please watch the entire video.
He clearly stated that it is the absence of black fathers from the home. That is what he pointed out as the problem.

Please watch the full video before making this conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV29R1M25n8?si=ffHTTZnVn0j9qBnL

Timestamp 1.19.00 till the end.

DeepSight:
Highlighted. Anyone who understands English understands the highlighted.

So let's teach you English.

“ When blacks in America did not have the same rights they have today, they were less murderous, there were less break-ins

The above is just a statement of data back facts. It is not indication of causation.

When I was driving home yesterday, my wife was preparing dinner.

My wife was not preparing dinner because I was driving home. Coalition and causation ar two different things.

I am asking you the question, the data shows they were actually better in the 1940s.

Again, he is pointing to the data to show that black behaviour was much better in the 1940s.

He asked why and went on to answer in the video I sent you. The absence of black fathers.

I hope this has cleared it up for you.
Now you can apologise for your mistake

DeepSight:
\You are lying. Kirk explicitly said what I quoted and I quoted him word for word. Its fine. I didnt expect you to have the decency.
And you can lie all you want that I wished you dead. Thats your cup of tea. You certainly dont deserve the life and freedoms won for you by the sacrifices of those you denigrate.

You are saying that Kirk explicitly blacks are murderous because they were given human rights?
You have issues with the truth.
Just in case you are confused, let me quote his words again. Please highlight where he said what you are saying.

KIRK – “When blacks in America did not have the same rights they have today, they were less murderous, there were less break-ins – why is that?”

QUESTIONER – “Are you trying to say that blacks thrive under subjugation?”

KIRK - “No, I am not, I am asking you the question, the data shows they were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad, it was evil, but what happened, something changed.”

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THEDEEPSIGHT:
This is one of the most slavish and stupid things I have ever read.

Nevertheless, first - Tctrills have some integrity. You once accused me of misrepresenting your position on a matter and demanded an apology. I looked into it and found I had mistaken someone else's words for yours and apologised. I even notified the person you said I should notify.

That is decency. Integrity.

Now show the same. You accused me of lying on the dead. Show where I did or apologise. Because I quoted that useless man word or word.

I call upon you to show decency now.

Your point is that because you showed so common sense after so much persuasion the last time gives you the right to misbehave this time.

You lied on a dead man claiming he blamed the murders in black America on giving the blacks equal rights.

I took the trouble of finding the entire video.
You saw that he never alluded to that. You heard him blame the black man's problems on fatherlessness not on equal rights.

But you insist on destroying his name.
It's clearly in your nature and this makes you a dangerous person.

Yesterday you confessed you wished I died. So I am not surprised. You wish everyone that doesn't bow to your thought process will die. But life doesn't work like that.

basilico:
I demean the white people who engineered the breakup of the black family.

What is wrong with the black man. Why must we always blame others for our problems. Why are we such an irresponsible people.

Now, answer this.
Under slavery, the black family was intact. Fatherlessness was not a problem.
Then came segregation and still fathers were responsible.
Finally you guys were given your freedoms and Equal rights and the family system got destroyed how is it the white man's fault.

We're they wrong in giving you your freedoms?
Have you listened to black music, or viewed black culture? It is barbaric and uncivilised.

Blacks have a cultural problem in the US. They have a sick culture. The whites did not do this. It was a choice made by a people.

It was a cultural decision to remain backwards, to love and embrace foolishness. Blacks celebrate crime and criminals. They are a messed up people.

How come as a black man you are safer in a white neighborhood in Montana than in the hood in Chicago.

It's all about personal and cultural decisions not the white man.

Please spend time listening to black American music and you will understand the problem has nothing to do with the whites

DeepSight:
What was the relevance of framing his assessment with lack of equal rights as the benchmark then? You know, he could simply have said "in the past" but he specifically chose "when blacks did not have equal rights. . ." It is clear even to an idiot.

It's just pathetic to watch this worm like way in which you struggle to defend something so disgusting.

I challenge you to point out my lie.

You can't be helped.
I have done the best I can for you. But come to think of it, you leftist want to control speech and even give your meanings and intentions to everyone's speech.
You guys guys go about finding fault trying to make everyone else as miserable as yourselves.
Your only purpose on nairaland is to spread hate and division.
When you are not here attacking a dead man, you are in the religion section attacking God and his followers.

I can't teach you how to live your life but I truly pity you.
You can improve and do better. This is the worst use of your life and time.
Thank you

DeepSight:
Thank you for wasting my time. I watched as requested (and it's a repeated watch by the way) and I remain right. You just enjoy flinging around falsehood. I quoted him verbatim and properly in context as the video shows (because I was watching when quoting the first time anyway). His remarks are exactly what I said they were and in context too. I dare you to point out my lie. You can't.

And oh, that young lady took him to the cleaners.

As an aside, his argument was also shallow. He is blaming absence of dads as a culture thing as though it's just genetically natural for black dads to disappear. There is a social-scientific reason for that and a historical reason and addressing that is where the real discussion is - and the young lady to her credit pointed that out to him.

Your arguments - all of you guys who parrot what he said - are just lazy and shallow and the evidence shows you are just repeating his argument without thinking at all.

Pitiful.

That ill fitting,
Triangular,
Disjointed
And most accursed head -

Has to do better.

So after watching the discussion you still continue in your dishonesty. I can't help you any further.
Kirk never said that giving blacks equal rights is the reason for their bad behaviour.
He blamed their bad behaviour on absentee dads and their negative culture.
If after watching you still can't bring yourself to apologise for your lies then it's clear that you did this to waste everyone's time and to feel relevant.
The fact that you have to destroy another person's image to feel relevant shows the sad life you are living.
Honestly, I pity you.
You are a cry for help. Clearly, you are lonely and miserable and you are going about therapy the wrong way.

budaatum:
Thank you. I think you are a decent human being.

Merci beaucoup

budaatum:
Should I accept this as your apology or will you actually apologise for calling me dishonest?

I dont think you were dishonest

budaatum:
I was not making any particular point apart from the irony of the fact I was watching a video about a place in Tennessee and came back to find you'd mentioned a place in the same Tennessee, which differed to mine, and which I clearly pointed out in my post about Tennessee.

Now, I'm still waiting for your comment alleging I was being dishonest despite clearly pointing out my post had nothing to do with Memphis in Tennessee. Thanks in advance.

Maybe I didn't understand your point. I felt you were blaming the crime in Memphis, Tennessee, on the racism of another city in Tennessee.

DeepSight:
You are the one who is telling sick dark lies. What other way is there to read a statement that says bluntly that "when blacks did not have equal rights they were less murderous?"

Who do you think you are kidding.

If you keep defending this trashy statement, the guilt of it falls -
On that dark, triangular, disjointed, ill fitting
And most accursed head.

Your head.

Ok, calm your nerves, my child. Luckily for you, I have the entire transcript, so it's easy to find out who the lying soul is.
Here, Kirk answered the question
"The disappearance of the black father has been the number 1 cause of black poverty." Note, he never said giving equal rights to blacks is the cause of the problem.
I'll post the entire video. It is long, but I will leave the important timestamps.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV29R1M25n8?si=ffHTTZnVn0j9qBnL

Timestamp, from 1.19.00 till the end
This s
should end the argument.
You should learn not to lie these days. Everything is online these days.
I believe someone sent you that little extract and you ran with it like the kid you are, without seeking to learn more.
Please try to watch 10 minutes of the video and then admit you were wrong.