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Michael547:
If you are not tired of teaching, you will proceed to explain John 3:5

Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

Michael547:
Oga explain John 3:5?

Humble yourself and do the needful. If you are tired of learning, I have my own questions for you but if you want to keep learning you know what to do.

Michael547:
Are you saying you can't read it in your own bible there?

Oga I have been answering all your questions now I give you a single job and you get pompous. It makes no sense. Let's do this together please. Just read, I promise to keep doing the teaching

Michael547:
Oga kindly explain John 3:5 if you want to.

I already told you, to paste it here if you want me to explain. It seems you have pride.
I have been answering all your questions. Your only task and you are feeling a bit pompous. Not nice.

achorladey:
What is in John 3:5

He seem uncomfortable to tell us. He was the one that mentioned the verse remember. Don't be shy oga. Paste the words for all to see

achorladey:
During their watchtower study they he will raise his hands willingly to read the Bible.

So what's happening here

Michael547:
Oga na by force to read? Kindly tell us the process in which one must become born again according to John 3:5.

Yes if you want to keep asking questions, you must participate. So kindly go ahead and paste the words in the verse you quoted then I can go on teaching.

Michael547:
You are the teacher here....I am asking?

In your church, doesn't the Sunday school teacher have the right to ask you to read a bible verse?

Michael547:
😂Alright oo.....so what did Jesus say is the process of being born again in John 3:5?

You have your Bible, kindly share with us brother Michael547

Michael547:
Ok....so you agree that Luke 13:28 is not talking about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in heaven right?

Oga are you intentionally being slow? Have I ever said anything about heaven. It's been you mentioning heaven all the time and I keep telling you to stick to what has been revealed

Michael547:
Oga please where is heaven added in Luke 13:28?

That's my point? Why did you add it in your post? Below was your post that I was reacting to.
Oga if Luke clearly shows that Abraham will enter the kingdom of God in heaven, why don't you accept that Lazarus met Abraham in heaven?
It was you who added heaven. The original bible text did not mention heaven.

Michael547:
Oga if Luke clearly shows that Abraham will enter the kingdom of God in heaven, why don't you accept that Lazarus met Abraham in heaven?

Did the Verse add heaven or did you just add it.
Oga unlike you, I don't add or subtract. Stick to the word of God and your confusion will be over

achorladey:
He will deflect with another question

I know nah

achorladey:
Na here you suppose lock am up.

He is busy looking for an answer

Michael547:
Ok...since Luke 3:28 is not working let's go to John 3:3. So please show us evidence that Abraham was born again?

I don't understand your
Luke 3.28 says Abraham will enter the kingdom of God
John 3.3 days only those born again will enter the kingdom of God.
So what is it you don't understand Biko.

achorladey:
Over to Michael547

He is not ready to take over oh

Michael547:
Ah😂😂😂😂....so how can you use Luke 13:28 to convince us that Abraham is born again and he will be in heaven?

Again are you not concentrating? I presented you with John 3. 3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God

Michael547:
Good my own did not show too....so where is Abraham Isaac and Jacob located in Luke 13:28?

Again another foolish question. Luke 13.28 did not give out their location

Michael547:
Oga according to your translation in Luke 13:28 did it mention heaven? Answer that one first.

My translation did not now did your translation of Lazarus and the rich man mention heaven? Answer as directly as I answered please

Michael547:
So where sir? Please where Luke did 13:28 mention Heaven?

I am asking you bro, according to your translation, did it say heaven? Let's start from there first.

Michael547:
Lol...ok another one....So if the rich man was in hell, do you mean that Abraham and Lazarus were in another place that was not heaven?

Please where did your Bible translation say they were? Did it say heaven?

achorladey:
They concocted a concept called JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION whose goal is captured in their memorandum and article of association is religious, educational and charitable.

Regarding to deceive, that's why their religious beliefs and practices are examined. Such deception started with saying God has just one organization[ on earth doing his will associated and known as the Watchtower. The salvation of billions of people depends on how they react to the brand of good news this organization preach.

If they claim to be the one true organization, no problem but then they should be the one teaching and answering questions and not me teaching them

Michael547:
How do you move forward in answering this question:
if The story of Lazarus and the rich man is in the future...is it connected to Luke 13:28 about seeing Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in heaven?
If the story is not in the future, how do you explain Jesus's words in John 3:13?

That's why I asked what if it is a parable?
Again the story never mentioned heaven please read it again.

Michael547:
It therefore means that it's either a true life story or not according to you na. So where do we go from here?

I don't understand your question explain better. Where do you want to go?

achorladey:
At least I have seen documents that says members are united in lies at all cost

Wow. So what is their goal as an organization? To deceive?

Michael547:
Good....if The story of Lazarus and the rich man is in the future...is it connected to Luke 13:28 about seeing Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in heaven?
If the story is not in the future, how do you explain Jesus's words in John 3:13?

And if the words in Luke 13.28 is a parable?

Michael547:
Lol...Oga you claim Jesus in Luke 13:28 was talking about the future prophecy after Jesus death. Luke 16:19 downwards is definitely not about the future after Jesus death. So please align both.

So what is the contradiction? Again how do you know Luke 16.19 is not about the future.

Michael547:
Ah....since you cannot prove to us that The Lazarus and rich man story was not a real life story, how do we align it with your Luke 13:28 since you claim that they are not connected? Would you not be contradicting Jesus words?

Please don't align it Luke 13.28.
So which words do I contradict? You just use words without knowing their meanings.

Michael547:
Ah....that means that even till now you cannot confirm from the scriptures that Abraham is born again and in heaven now? So how do you want to convince us na that Abraham was a Christian?

Because the bible says
you will cry and gnash your teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, while you are thrown out!

Michael547:
Ah....so Abraham is in the cave till now? You did not mention cave as destination earlier oo

I don't know? The bible did not print out the timetable for everyone's resurrection?

Michael547:
😂😂😂😂....so what made you link me to an organization?

I was talking to someone else at that time. You never told me your organization and I did not ask.

Michael547:
Ok so where has Abraham been all the while that he was dead if he did not go to heaven? Which other destinations out of the five that we have discovered must he have gone to?
And where is he now?

Let's see what the bible says.

Abraham died at the ripe old age of 175. 9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in Machpelah Cave, in the field east of Mamre that had belonged to Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite.
Is the the answer to your question