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Michael547:
😂😂😂Na wa oo.....so you could not convince us here that Abraham was a born again and presently in heaven? Na wa oo

Even Jesus Christ did not convince the children of Israel of his divinity. I am not responsible for your convincing. I will only teach you the truth, the rest is on you.

achorladey:
He thinks by repeatedly asking questions he will avoid being pinned down on what he believes

That's why he told Emusan he does not want to fail as a student. A student that won't want his teacher to evaluate him, does not understand the essence of imparting knowledge or learning involves.


How does a teacher know learning has taken place? They carry out evaluation of what was imparted. This one indeed is not a serious student.

If I were a member of his organization I would be ashamed watching my member avoid questions for basically a week but these people are not capable of feeling shame

Michael547:
Na you carry us reach here na.....continue Oga

If you want to learn about the final state of man, I will happily teach but do us a favor and open a special thread for that then mention me. I promise to continue teaching you

achorladey:
@tctrills

You see in the rich man and lazarus account in look. He has been coy whether it is a story or parable or whatever. In the account about the body of Jesus Christ another coy literal, Figurative, symbolic is adopted before entering destinations or not.

You will think he has definite and concrete answers on all these. You will only get speculations and assumptions in response to your own concrete answers paapaa

Even he has stopped taking himself seriously

Michael547:
Ahhhh ok...so where is the final destination for all mankind?

Another topic?

Michael547:
Ah....I no read final destinations there oo....na you dey teach me now oo....even the prison wey you talk...I no see any human being wey go there.

I never mentioned final destination, that was your phrase and I only pointed you to verses in the bible or do you have contrary translations?

Michael547:
Oya bring more final destinations😂😂

I am having a feeling that you have finally exhausted your questions can I start now?

Michael547:
Oya bring more final destinations😂😂

Oga I didn't bring any na. You read them in your Bible translation right?

Michael547:
Ahhh....'throw out' nko😂😂😂 I thought that was a destination oo?
Ok so we now have 4 destinations where people would go:
Heaven
Hell
Prison
Outer darkness
Any more?

So you also think throw out is a destination that means you now have 5 destination

Michael547:
If you've been paying attention you wouldn't ask me your previous question.

Lol ok oh sorry sir

Michael547:
are there only four? When I see all of them I would conclude whether to believe or not? What was the destination in Luke 13:28 that you quoted earlier?

So according to you, for now you believe in 4 destinations and you are looking forward to others right?
Was any destination mentioned in Luke 13.28?

Michael547:
Oga I have asked you severally here if Jesus was aware his audience thought he was talking about the literal temple in Jerusalem? Your answer has been yes...why did he not tell them he meant something different? Was he trying to deceive them?

You asked this very question less than 40 mins ago and I answered. Learn to pay attention please.

Michael547:
...Oga show me oo....we've counted four now...how many destinations are remaining?😂😂😂

Oh you counted four. I am happy you said you counted four. So do you believe there are 4 destinations as you said you counted?

Michael547:
It is to you that Jesus was referring to his literal bidy....not to his audience in John 2:19.

Those what you wrote even make sense to you?
So to you he was being honest but to the audience, what temple was he talking about?

Michael547:
So how many destinations do mankind have...please count all of them and tell us here.

Read your Bible. Everything I told you is in your translation right?

Michael547:
😂😂😂.....really....are you saying that all these churches who say that heaven and hell is the final destination of all mankind are wrong?

No I am not saying so. Let me even add more.
Matthew 25.30 speaks of outer darkness

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

So which do you settle for?

Michael547:
Oga the fact that Jesus did not correct their wrong notion clearly meant that he wanted them to really think he was referring to the literal temple. Or was only his disciples that later realized that he was talking about his body as explained in John 2:22.

That makes sense but it is your opinion. And even if that is correct, it still does not change the fact that his body was literally the temple of God and his statement was literally factual.

Michael547:
Oga did Jesus know that his listeners concluded that he was referring to the temple where they worshipped? If yes, why did he not tell them he was referring to his body?

I hope your other members are on this thread and are learning and taking notes from my answers. I hope you are not the only one enjoying this class.
More questions please

Michael547:
Oga did Jesus know that his listeners concluded that he was referring to the temple where they worshipped? If yes, why did he not tell them he was referring to his body?

This is a good question but it's actually a question for Jesus Christ. It's above my pay grade. The bible did not tell me why he allowed them to retain their ignorance but again, this question is another distraction. Please make a point. What's the purpose of the question Biko?

Michael547:
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂......so apart from heaven and hell, there are other places that people will go....wow...this is a new teaching....can you please tell us those that go to this prison in 1 Peter 3:19, since you are trying hard not to connect Luke 13:28 to Luke chapter 16:23?

The writings of Peter is over 2000 years so it being new to you shows that you have a long way to go.
I believe you know that the judgement of God has not been given to me so I will not be the one to decide who goes where.

Michael547:
Is the temple that Jesus told his listeners in John 2:19 the literal temple where they worshipped? If no, why did Jesus not tell them he was referring to his body?

No, he never said the literal temple they worshipped. That would have been a lie. They inferred the temple they worshipped in and they were wrong.

Michael547:
Oga do you agree that people who are not allowed into heaven in Luke 13:28 will go to hell as shown in Luke 16:23? Yes or no sir?

Now you are getting confused.
I just told you that I depend on the bible. I have given you an example with those sent to spirit prison in 1 Peter 3. So asking me if it's between heaven and hell doesn't make sense or do you agree that people who are not allowed into heaven in Luke 13:28 will go to hell as shown in 1 Peter 3.19?
The mysteries of God go beyond heaven and hell my brother.

Michael547:
The answer to your question is staring at your face in the context of John 2:19.

What does this even mean? You see you have been caught and now you say meaningless words.

Michael547:
😂😂😂....so you don't believe that people who are not allowed into heaven in Luke 13:28 will go to hell as shown in Luke 16:23? Yes or no sir?

Are you asking my beliefs or the teachings of Jesus Christ. What's your point here.
I only stick to what has been revealed.
For example, in 1 Peter 3. We learn about spirits in prison; so you asking me to sentence everyone to hell is quite crazy

Michael547:
Oga was Jesus talking to me and you there. Did Jesus know that his listeners actually thought he was referring to the literal temple as shown in John 2:20?

You mean because his listeners assumed a wrong thing that makes his words figurative?
Is that your definition of figurative speech? Anytime your listeners assume the wrong thing, then your speech becomes figurative. I am learning new English everyday

Michael547:
😂😂fine.....in the Prophecy of Jesus in Luke 13:28 will people who are not allowed to go into heaven cry and gnash their teeth in hell also?

It was not stated is it called hell in your translation?

Michael547:
you mean the body of Jesus was the same literal temple in Jerusalem where the Jews worshipped?

Your Bible tells you that he was not referring to the temple in Jerusalem. Stop being dishonest. If he was not referring to the temple in Jerusalem why come up with an absurd question

Michael547:
Oga I am referring to Luke 16:23 in your translation, where was the rich man crying from?

Hell. What does that have to do with the topic sir

Michael547:
Ok....where was the rich man crying from in Luke 16:23 in your translation?

Hell

Michael547:
Oga I never said it was a parable.....it was clearly a prophecy....Jesus never told his listeners that he was talking about his body....he knew clearly that they thought he was referring to the literal temple in Jerusalem. But the prophecy was symbolical and not literal.

Are you saying that his body was the symbolic temple and not the literal temple? I disagree with you. His body was the literal temple. The Holy Ghost dwelt in him

Michael547:
Oga Luke 13:28 says they will be thrown out. Thrown out to where sir? Where was the rich man crying from in Luke 16:23?

Oga, it did not state were they would be thrown that's why I am asking, did your translation state where they would be thrown?

Michael547:
😂😂😂.....so was that what Jesus was telling them in John 2:19 that their bodies was the temple of God?

He was talking about his body. I hope you know that his body was literally the temple of God and that's no parable. Right?