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benswagtt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTV4YjPrUtY?si=xha-BUQqn0Z51gLR


What happens when humanity chooses disobedience over destiny?
In this powerful cinematic retelling, witness the emotional and spiritual journey of Adam and Eve as they leave Eden and step into an unknown world. From divine beauty to harsh reality, this story captures the pain, love, and hope of the very first humans.
✨ Experience:
The fall of man like never before
Deep emotional storytelling
Stunning cinematic visuals
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This is more than a story… it’s the beginning of humanity.

It's not the usual narration that you've heard before. It's you having a cinematic visual idea of the creation and how man fell to sin. Just tap on the play button. Remain blessed in Jesus name!

Happy Sunday!

Humanity chose to be like God, to know good and evil. That was the best choice man ever made.

FxMasterz:
Thanks for the feedback brother.

God bless you for this good work.

You are most welcome

DeepSight:
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You are contradicting yourself. If Adams sin was not inherited then Jesus would not have to die. Christian doctrine is that Adamic sin was inherited.

Besides, it is clear that sin was inherited -

​Romans 5:12: "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—"

​Romans 5:18–19: "Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous."
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​1 Corinthians 15:21-22: "For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."

​Psalm 51:5: "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."

Finally the Bible contradicts itself by teaching that God avenges the sin of the father unto his descendants.

(Exodus 34:6–7)

​"The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God... maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation."

Calm down
One of the reasons Christ died was to make sure no one gets to suffer for Adam's sins hence the justice of God, we are punished only for our sins.
If Christ didn't come, we would have died and not resurrected because of the action of Adam but now that's not a problem so what exactly are you complaining about?

If Christ did not come, then your argument will be right, we would suffer for Adam's sin but now He has come, you are still complaining. Please explain yourself.

Let me summarise your argument.
God commanded that no one will suffer for the sins of their fathers. God provided a plan to make that possible through Jesus Christ but somehow according to you, it is not good enough.

Jacoban20:
Something is certainly making the FG not act decisively against these marauders. There's a challenge that they're not admitting to.

Solution may be to vote in a different individual and/or party

I agree with your solution.

I hope and pray that the good people of Kwara and indeed the entire Nigerians will vote for leaders who can protect us.
I hope we learn and correct our electorial choices.
If we don't, the next 4 years will only get worse

DeepSight:
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I am asking about original sin, Adamic sin. Why is it inherited.

No man will be punished for the sins of Adam. We will be judged and punished for our sins.
Where is it written that we will be punished for Adam's sins.
I must add that Jesus Christ died and rose to ensure that no one suffers for Adam's actions

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DeepSight:
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These were the other issues I raise -

- The doctrine of the Trinity which is blasphemous

- The teaching of eternal hell fire which is barbaric

- The ritual of communion which is negatively pagan in essence, to the extent that it is said to be a representation of eating human flesh and drinking human blood

- The teaching that you must love Jesus more than you love your parents

- The doctrine of inherited sin, which casts blame on the innocent

Let us start with the last.

Going by the last three verses I gave you, there is even a contradiction there. One of those verses specifically said that the child shall not bear the sin of the father. How does this not contradict the doctrine of inherited original sin. Besides such a doctrine is inherently unjust.

We agree that a Child shall not bear the Sins of his father the bible taught that clearly but are you also saying that the bible taught that it is wrong for God to bear the sins of the world?
Maybe I am not understanding you. As Christians we know that we will be punished for our sins unless we repent. Please explain yourself clearly.

Again, do not conflict the teachings oc different churches with the bible truths. Let's look to the bible not the churches for answers

You also spoke about loving God more than your parents.
So let me ask based on common sense, who would you love more, someone who can only be your parent for at best 100 years or someone who is and remains your parent for all eternity?

FxMasterz:
I just want to make a few clarifications to further enhance your understanding. And I believe Tctrills would give you the most balanced teachings on these. There are several things you do not know, yet you make hasty conclusions based on half knowledge.

1. The wages of sin is death: The death here does not refer to the physical death but to a type of death called "the second death". This death is an eternal separation from God. It is the real death because God created man originally for fellowship. Separation from God eternally is death as far as the Bible is concerned.

That's why, those who are forgiven and blood washed by Christ do not partake of the second death. Those who are not forgiven and are not washed are partakers of this death because it is their wage. Both the righteous and sinner die, but only the sinner dies the second death.

Revelation 21:8

"But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

2. Jesus willingly gave Himself: Yes, He even rebuked Peter when he was praying against His crucification. And Jesus said it very clearly:

John 10:18

"No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."

He took it up again in 3 days.

He even said "Greater love has no man than this, that a man should lay down His life for His friends."

He constantly told the crowd in parable, "Destroy this temple, and I'll raise it up in three days".

Even in the Gethsemane prayer, He said "not as I will but Thy will be done"

When Peter cut off the ear of the servant of the high priest when they came to arrest Him, He told him, "Put your sword in its sheath. The cup that the Father has given me, shall I not drink it? How then shall the Scriptures be fulfilled?"

Jesus was the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:. God knew man was going to fall, Jesus was the plan B for man's restoration back to God. John the Baptist knew this. He called Him "The Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world."

An animal was a propitiation for the sins of the whole nation of Israel according to the law of Moses. That animal was a type of the real Lamb that would propitiate the sins of the whole world once, and for all eternity.

Abel's blood spoke vengeance after Abel was killed. Jesus' blood speaks forgiveness and mercy till today.

There are many things you ought to know before it is too late.

I think our good friend Deepsight is only looking for a got you moment nothing more
He completely understands your explanation on the topic. No need to press further.

Deepsight let's go to the next subject.

DeepSight:
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I know you see the contradiction so I will leave it and move on to other issues.

I don't know what you think I see. But seen you can't explain let's leave it.

The bible makes it clear that man is not able to pay for so and only God has such power. If that is a contradiction to you, no one can help you.

DeepSight:
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You are very funny. Each of the verses I cited clearly states that it is the very person that sins that must bear the punishment and no one else .

You are right, we will be punished for our own sins if we don't repent. But the verses you quoted never said that God doesn't forgive sin. God has the power to clean our sins and that comes through the atonement of Jesus Christ. Here, God Himself paid the price of all sin.
So let's put all the information together.
No other person will be punished for your sin.
But repentance and forgiveness is granted through the atonement of God Himself for sin.
If you don't repent, the atonement has no effect on you.
These summaries the bible teaches.
If you put the verses you quoted in context with other verses in the bible, this is where you will arrive at.

DeepSight:
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You abandoned our discussion.

But I did not, I responded and I saw many others were contributing.
I felt we already had clarity.

Alapereketu:
reason why tinubu is not taking us serious

You mean if burna and wiz résolve their différence, Tinubu will start taking us serious?

Abeg Burna and wiz make una come hug una def. We need to be taken serious by cityboy

DeepSight:
. . . . . to this matter!

My guy my guy. It's been a while.

GracieX3:
The 07/08 was a longer recession.

But MAGA delusion will not let you see sense.

My dear, let's talk about delusion for a minute.
First, you said COVID did not result in a recession. I corrected you.
Then you said the 07/08 recession was worse, still I corrected you.
It's funny you don't see that you are in the delusion.
Now, the only reason the US pulled out of the COVID related recession was because of the prompt action taken by the government.
Obama's recession could have ended much sooner.
Please don't talk about delusion anymore if I have to be correcting and updating your knowledge.
Thanks for your attention.

cococandy:
Oh boy 🤣🤣🤣. Yes I’m seeking your attention. Please come back and tell me how Obama caused the 2008 recession.

So being desperate. I am still not reading your post. Please learn to move on

IjeBos:
Well you may want to check out Bluesky, you may learn something like Obama didn't cause the recession in 2008 because he took office in 2009.
Garbage in - Garbage out

You already know that I never read your write-ups. Stop acting desperate.
No matter how hard you try,you will not get my attention.
You remain irrelevant

cococandy:
Ah. The classic conservative deflection to blaming trans people when you don’t know what the heck you’re arguing about.

Tell us more about the recession Obama created in 2008 before he became president in 2009.

Leave trans folks out of this. They are your convenient scapegoats when you start losing face.

I didn't bother reading your write-up because I know it won't make sense. Please my dear, stop seeking my attention.

GracieX3:



MAGA delusion is worrying you.


Covid caused a SHORT TERM recession. Emphasis on short term.

Oh so now you agree there was a recession. COVID caused a much bigger recession. Please check the percentages before making your next reply

cococandy:
Obama’s recession? You mean Obama caused a recession while he was not yet president?

This is why I feel people shouldn’t waste time debating conservatives. You spin lies and rewrite history when the argument isn’t going your way.

The 2008 recession (started in 2007 btw) that was created under a Republican president and Obama was popular for rescuing Americans from? That’s the same recession you are implying was caused by Obama when he wasn’t even president until 2009?

I’m yet to see a conservative on this thread who has even the faintest idea of what they are talking about at any time.

Just rambling in order to be part of the conversation

My dear you are so lucky to be alive to witness the creation of bluesky. There, you don't get to talk with conservatives, it's all leftist discussing how to castrate boys to make them girls and DEI so run off and go play with your friends.

Nateevs2:
Take it one at a time. Start by saying all the things I pointed out are not true. Then we can move forward to other points.

You see I have caught you in fallacy land for the umpteenth time. It's clear Trump is your news source and you lack the capacity to analyse by yourself.


Obama this, Obama that. Meanwhile, your guy has managed to turn Iran, in only 5 weeks, from an economic onlooker, to a regional power broker.



Iran now is unilaterally deciding that only India, Pakistan, China, Russia, Iraq and Bangladesh can pass the strait without transit toll. All other countries, (especially US and Israel allies), must pay $2m equivalent or don't bother coming close.

Iran sent shockwaves to the established petrodollar system by determining the transaction currency for its own oil sales - Chinese Yuan. A system that has not been questioned through military force by any nation on earth since 1973.

Iran made all the US bases around its territory completely uninhabitable by US forces, leaving all GCC countries scrambling for defensive cover and assistance from Ukraine.

And these are only the few points I have time for..... There's more of I have time.



Your guy turned Iran into a military and economic force in only 5 weeks. But you are caught foaming in the mouth again.


Trump weakened Iran.... 😀😀😀😀😀

Comedy Time!

You are all over the place but still unable to make a point. But let me react to the most ignorant of all your statements.
According to you,
Iran sent shockwaves to the established petrodollar system by determining the transaction currency for its own oil sales - Chinese Yuan. A system that has not been questioned through military force by any nation on earth since 1973.
Now, at best, Iran contributed about 2% of global oil sales. If 2% of global oil is traded in Yuan and you start celebrating, then something is clearly wrong.

GracieX3:
This just shows your lack of economic knowledge.

An economic recession is a direct downturn on the economy. Negative growth, slow down in economic activity, rising unemployment etc.

A recession is by far worse.

See who is boasting, you don't even know that COVID brought about a recession. But it was much worse, the entire economy was on freeze.

Reflect7:
Honestly, this man's head is not correct.

What kind of foolish man is this?

How did Nigeria enter his head, now?

But you guys like fake news too much, that's why.

GracieX3:
I don't have to even question your figures. You are talking about Trump suffering from the covid economy. What about Obama recovering from the economic recession that bus handed him?

As usual, you don't even know what you are talking about.

As for your figures, you compared two different rates. Nonsense

Just one question? Which had a greater impact on global economy? Obama's recession or COVID 19? Try to answer honestly. Because the recession in 2008 was child's play when compared to the first 6 months of COVID.

nateevs:
Good lord, This guy.

Hehehe. Another round of fallacy by the numbers guy.

Two weeks ago, Trump and Bessent lifted sanctions on Iranian Oil...Iran is set to earn a protected $14bn from oil sales. This is direct funding for the war, missile development, funding of its proxies and nuclear enrichment.

But he's weakened Iran 😀😀😀😀......Clown!




Furthermore, Iran is toling the Strait of Hormuz, charging up to 2m per shipment, making deals with the Europeans, and demanding payments are made in Chinese Yuan.

But Trump has weakened Iran. This kain weakening na wa o! 😀😀😀😀



Iran is now demanding permanent control of the Strait, taxing it, and any generated revenue shared with Oman, as part of the ceasefire.

But Iran has been weakened.





Guy.... just stop!

You make me laugh. If it is so great for Iran, why are they unable to pay salaries to the military?
And why is their economy projected to contract by 10% the biggest of any nation this year?

nateevs:
You are missing the key words "is believed" ........

Every author you see carryng the story keeps saying what the US Intelligence is saying "it is believed"...... that is educated guess.

Educated guesses are important for close enough assessment of strategic objectives and necessary propaganda, because both sides need propaganda to gets their population siding with the war. Just like I don't believe anyone in the Iranian side that they have been unscathed. They need propaganda as well.

Facts of the matter is that everything is underground...... and like I said in my previous posts, no one knows what's underground, not even the US......

So why are you insistent on putting a number on what nobody knows?

They are guessing. If you cannot see that, then you are not a numbers guy.

Now you are beginning to act like a child.
We all know that no one has counted but these are military estimates.

But you peg your opinion or believe on nothing but your love for Iran.

If you wanted to be honest, why didn't you make the claim that it's possible that US has destroyed more than is believed but you choose to argue that the US has done less.

Talking about being a numbers guy, we have something called probability. It's not exact science but it is science. And I can deal with probability when I don't have exact figures.

Now, why should we believe these figures? Simple answer, we see an even greater reduction in the number of daily missiles Iran projects at Israel

nateevs:
So now you are being informed. At least you won't mention to anyone again that Iran is 90% depleted.

Step into the world of understanding.

If you are truly after the facts, when you realise that the entire missile capability is underground, then you also know that without US assets on the ground doing the actual counting across 27 missile cities, in a country the size of western Europe, then the US can only guess. The guess is required for all sorts of strategic objectives and analysis, including the cost of war. Their best guess is 30% degradation.

But they don't know.

So if no one knows how long more Iran can keep this up, and the control the strait of Hormuz with an iron first, does it not make sense to call for a cease fire?

This is how people with common sense analyse things..... not all that fanfare-echo chamber-BS you are bringing my way.

So you now agree that it is at least 70% and that was using the march 26th data.

So, when the data was presented, it included the underground missile capacity.
In fact Iran has close to zero missiles above ground. They store all their missiles underground so the figures you are getting is from their underground capacity.

As of today, there is no missile storage site above ground in Iran.

Now, if you read the article it says

US is certain about having destroyed a third of Iran's missiles, say sources
Another third is believed to be damaged, destroyed or buried.
That's 67% not 30%.

The remaining 33% is what they have underground and most of their launching sites are no more so they can't even shoot rapidly even if they had more missiles.

As of the strait of Hormuz, this has only been a month plus and the US did not even attempt to take over the strait by fighting. They got Iran to agree to a ceasefire in order not to be bombed to the dark ages.

GracieX3:
Inflation rate under Obama- 1.4 to 2 %

Inflation rate under Trump- 2.4 to 3.3 %

Obama was far better than Trump when it comes to Inflation.

Wrong
Barack Obama (8-Year Average: 2009–2016)

Donald Trump (First 4-Year Average: 2017–2020)
Annual Average: 1.9%


Economic growth
Barack Obama (8-Year Average: 2009–2016)
Median Household Income Growth (Real): Average Annual Growth: 1.2%

Donald Trump (First 4-Year Average: 2017–2020)
Average Annual Growth: 1.9%

From these figures, who did better for USA.

Don't forget that Trump had the COVID challenge yet the average American worker did much better under Trump

nateevs:
Guy, I have these facts in my head. I don't go looking for 5h1t to back myself up after the fact, because I am not in an echo chamber.....I had the facts weeks ago.

So I am not showing you screenshots now that I only just found.

You are welcome to go inform yourself.

Just google Iran missile capability, read, be informed and stop embarrassing yourself on the Internet.

If you have the facts on your head then give me numbers. What percentage of Iran's missile capacity has been destroyed?
Give me numbers my guy stop giving me screenshot.

Now you say I should Google Iran's missile capacity. Let me do that so we can both learn.

Now, this is the result of my Googling.
From Reuters as far back as March 27th

Summary
US is certain about having destroyed a third of Iran's missiles, say sources
Another third is believed to be damaged, destroyed or buried
Iran is continuing attacks, may be conserving missiles

Link below for the full story
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-can-only-confirm-about-third-irans-missile-arsenal-destroyed-sources-say-2026-03-27/

You asked me to Google so I hope you are satisfied with the result.

GracieX3:
Just so you know, America joined WW2 late like cowards. You don't even know your history.

MAGA delusion.

Trump that has the highest rate of national debt. You are here promising that the USAs economy will be better as if you are in Trump's personal cabinet. DELULU!!

Yes, I know America joined the war later than the European. Europe was ground zero for the war but somehow, you expect America to join the same day. Anyway, they ended the war and the war would have been lost without them.

Now you lost the inflation debate you move to debt? Anyway, Biden took up more debt so even at that, you are still wrong.And it you remove COVID relief and the entire COVID era, you will see that Trump did not do too badly with the debt.

But I completely agree with you, the debt is Trump's worst area, he needs to do better.

nateevs:
Pele. You really want everything you have believed to be true. Sorry to burst your bubble. It just isn't true.

US Intelligence disagrees with you that Iran is 90% decimated. The IDF disagrees with you.

On top of this, US Intelligence assessed only part week that Iran is quickly repairing bunkers as soon as they are hit and restoring within a day!

MSM is not even my source of news, but even they cannot help but report the facts.

Hehehehe. Look at how you are desperately disagreeing with US Intelligence. You don't read. You just go into echo chambers and come to Nairaland.

Pele Fox News correspondent.


Iran's missile stock pile is not degraded by any means. It's production capacity also untouched FACTS!

It's air defences, t's navy, still significant. You only heard otherwise from Trump.

Oga provide your data. Let's act like literates.
So according to your US intelligence source what percentage of Iranian missile capacity has been destroyed? I am a numbers guy not an emotional person

Let's talk numbers and figure.
Again can you stop sending screenshots. I actually prefer reading the entire article. Because the headline is not always the complete story. I believe you know that.

Nateevs2:
This is not an arithmetic class.... it's war. Unless you are Israel, every other nation treats war exactly as it should be - an extention of political negotiation, not a means for annihilation.

Iran doesn't need to annihilate Israel. They have never wanted to, so there's no need to continue to fire 90 middle a days. What strategic objective does it achieve.

Iran's strategic objective was to make the cost of war so steep for the US and Israel, that everyone thinks twice before returning for a new round. The goal is not to kill civilians.

Iran exhausted Israeli and US defensive capability to a point where they chose targets in retaliation and hit.... pound for pound, without resistance.

Iran cannot push Israel to the point of existential threat... otherwise, they will provoke Israel into launching nuclear weapons. Iran know this..... so they chill on the launching of missiles.

Iran's execution of its strategic objectives does not equate 90% wiped out BS you are talking about. It's just pure nonsense.

Not even US Intelligence agrees with you..... and even then US Intelligence is still only guessing, because like I said, everything is buried underground. You don't know what you are talking about.

So sorry, I made a mistake, the 2.8% contraction of the Iranian economy is wrong.
That was the expected figure before the war.
According to the Chatham house in London, due to the war, Iran's economy will contract this year by 10% or more.

So sorry for the initial mistake.

Obrigardo:
Stop putting yourself to shame. Why don't you just take the L and move on?

If Trump couldn't get a ceasefire, you will claim he lost now he got it, you still say he lost. You people can never rest. What is wrong with you?