₦airaland Forum

Jovi10:
You keep going back and forth. You can rest now , I don't have the time to go back and forth with you. I've aired my views , you can agree or disagree tho it won't change the fact I posted earlier.Have a nice day

It's not about going back and forth. You aired your view and now we question your view to see how sound it is. Anyone can say anything but can you defend your opinion? We should learn to study and listen to all sides before forming opinions. You obviously failed to do that here.

Jovi10:
You can go to my Twitter page to verify. I'm always vocal against any atrocities committed in Nigeria to any tribe. I'm not your regular Nigerian who is sentimental or tribal.

Well on Nairaland, you clearly are not neutral and again, I ask you, mention some wars that had no civilian casualties?

Jovi10:
You can check my handle on Twitter. Nairaland is not the only social media platform...

You can check out my handle on Twitter @futurepresidentofnigeria I'm more vocal than you yourself.

Oh so on Nairaland you accuse the Jews and on Twitter you talk about other genocides. Hmm, I see.

Jovi10:
I'm not trying to change it, I'm only calling out people who claim to be Christian and are happy with what Israel is doing in Gaza. You can't be a true Christian and support such. It's that simple.

Our christian brother, how come you are not commenting on the Ethnic cleansing going on in Okuama community in Delta state?
This is happening right now in your country by your army but no comments from people like you or your evil president.
What gives you the right to address or accuse Israel of genocide without for once addressing the genocide taking place in your country?
In the last one year, over 8000 Christians have been killed and many christian communities burnt to the ground especially in the north.
When are you going to post about it on Nairaland?

AnyanwuSilas:
You said I'm insulting you because I said you don't understand international politics. You aren't getting the reality. Though, there are many reality on ground.

Oga when someone doesn't agree with you., Just state your point instead of trying to prove superiority and throwing shades. It's that simple.

Jovi10:
It is not blackmail. It is the fact. You can't be a follower of Jesus and support what Israel is doing in Gaza it's that simple.



As for the biafran war, yes it was genocide as well. True the way biafrans wanted democracy was not good but the Nigerian government should know better. Killing your own people when theres always diplomacy and one side coming to a compromise. To what end?

You see your hypocrisy?
Since you joined Nairaland, how many posts have you made against all the other genocides taking place across the world?
Secondly, do you even know of other ongoing cases of genocide?
Thirdly, since you say the Biafran war was genocide, how many times have you used your platform on Nairaland to seek justice for the victims and their families?
You are comfortable fighting a war that you know nothing about when millions of your own citizens are victims and children of genocide and until today, you said nothing about it.
So when you come out claiming christian, we only see a hypocrite that knows very little.

Jovi10:
Believe what you like. I attend The Apostolic Faith church.

I don't care the church you attend. My problem here is that you are trying to use your religion as a blackmail chip for other christians who don't share your opinion and you are coming from a position of ignorance. That makes you very dangerous.

I asked you to list the wars that had no civilian casualties but then you can't answer.

Next question.
Was the Biafran war genocide?

Jovi10:
As Christians our duty is to say the truth always. What is happening in Gaza now it's genocide being committed by Israel and supported by the USA.

As Christians we are not Jews , yeah we know it was written in the Bible that Israel should destroy this people and all that but this is not our concern as Christians.

We are not called Christians because of the Jews, we are called Christians because we are followers of Jesus .
As Christians everything you do, should portray that Jesus like characteristics.

Ask yourself your question, if Jesus where in Israel right now, will he join the Israelites by picking up The gun and killing Palestinians both Hamas and the innocent babies, women and men and children being killed? Or will be collect the guns from Israeli soldiers and call fit peace?

I leave you to your conscience. What would Jesus do?
Are you truly a follower of Jesus? Christianity is not a religion, it is a way of life, who's life? The perfect life of Jesus who says " pray for your enemies and those who persecute you"

If you claim to be a Christian and you support the genocide going on in Israel, then you're not a Christian because you're not Christ like.

When someone begins a post by calling on his Christianity, I already know it's another hypocrite.
Please define genocide?
Second question, give up the list of wars that had no civilian casualties?
If you are a true Christian, you should study as Apostle Paul said before speaking.

Jivak:
Aljazeera now rooting for Trump ?

You guys think it should always be able Trump. Can't a news company present the news as it is regardless of whom the support?
Well I shouldn't blame you, Aljazeera has lost its reputation.

kunle4toyeyaho:
the same SW that was won by Tinubu with 55% while your Peter won your zone with about 95%, I ask who then is tribalistic? Thank God, your candidate was beaten silly to a distant third by Tinubu

Peter Obi is a good man. Voting him in has nothing to do with tribalism but voting in known failures 3 times in a role that is the problem. That's what we are all suffering today.
The first time they voted Buhari a know failure things got worse, then the same idiots voted him in a second time.
Then to crown it up, they voted for his biggest sponsor and supporter.
And somehow, they expect things to work.

toluleke:
The floating will stabilise a lot of thing only if we begin to produce and export. Those who their currency dominate us will prefer to buy from us because it is cheaper

Oya na how do we begin to produce and export. Only last year, over 700 of our industries folded up

AnyanwuSilas:
If you know how big is Ukraine, how close to Russia and how related to Russia then you will know why the West wants Ukraine. Ukraine will be very powerful in future if they win and will be & used against Russia. You're not getting this because you have not been following geopolitics at least for more than a decade, it's so complex. If Russia is Surrounded through Ukraine then it'll become weak(poor) and China will be easily defeated. China and Russia are stronger together, if one is defeated then the other falls, Western world will rule the next world(age) unchallenged. But if Russia and China stand strong then the US will seize to be world leader and becomes a regional power. The global South will be freed, especially Africa. The world becomes multipolar as world powers become regional powers(regionalism). There will still be battle in Africa especially Nigeria because the Islamic world are trying to take Nigeria(future giant) and Allie with China and Russia. The West will then kick against that for there own good. All these fight you're seeing will be brought and settled in Africa because Africa is the future of the world, these struggle for hegemony will lead to the freedom of Africans. This will take long, the world is in mess. Like I said, it's complex.

You begin by insulting me as most people on Nairaland do but no problem. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I just started following geopolitics.
Again, you seem to be creating theories that don't exist. First, no matter how the Russian/Chinese relationship is, the US economy is still bigger that the two added together. Even if you throw in the entire Africa, the US still has a bigger economy.
Secondly, the US allies comprises of the richest countries in the world.
Now the idea that Ukraine, the poorest country in Europe is the ultimate key to destroying Russia is false and unproven.
Here are some of your falsehoods
You claim that if Russia is surrounded through Ukraine they become weak and fall. Hope you know that you can't surround Russia through Ukraine. Ukraine is only one of the countries at Russias border. They share a much bigger border with Finland a NATO county.
Then the idea that if Russia collapse, China will also fall is false.
Russia represents a very small portion of Chinese trade. China does more business with the US than Russia. They don't need Russia to remain a force to reckon with.
Where did you dig these theories from?

God1000:
I support the oppressed people of Palestine

Again I think you are nothing but a hypocrite. I have never since you post about the genocide happening in Sudan. This is not a pretended genocide but a real one happening to black Africans like you.
You fake humanity when in reality you don't give a damn. You are just another Israel hater.

BOSSkesh:
Death to Zionist nazi
Death to Israel
Death to Netanyahu

If you mean what you are saying, you should join Hamas in the trenches of Gaza. Coward

God1000:
I support the oppressed people of Palestine

Do you support Israel's war against Hamas? And you claim you are not a terrorist apologist?
Oga get serious

God1000:
Wow, something that never happened

I'm not surprised at all


May God forgive you people for supporting this carnage

May you also be forgiven for supporting terrorism

God1000:
How can you ignore decades of systematic abuse, occupation of Palestinian lands and oppression by the Israelis and only be focused on the October 7th incident.

We are all humans guy

There has been zero systemic abuse as you claim and the Palestinians have no claim to land .
You are only being a hypocrite here. Why are you not asking the entire Arab world to return lands, businesses, and money that they stole from Jews in the 40s and 50s? Know your history and know peace.

God1000:
I can't believe some south Africans are even fighting with Israelis in Gaza, they must be white southis

Yes because the black southis are busy killing their fellow blacks in South Africa

[quote author=Emu4life post=128921215]You believe peoples Religion/feelings and things they hold dear to their hearts should be insulted. Lol.
I am a Christian, but if you tell me that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God, I believe you should have the freedom to say so.
You believe in Freedom of Speech but you obviously don't believe in Freedom of Religion.
I believe that you should have the freedom to practice your religion but others should have the freedom to criticize your religion if they choose.
I have met people who believe that Jesus Christ did not exist and that Paul in the bible was a fraud. I did not attack any of them. I discussed with them without shedding blood. I knew that I was entitled to my freedom of worship just as they are entitled to their freedom of speech.

[quote author=Emu4life post=128918514]Let me address your points one at a time. I will bolden each of your points before addressing them.

You agree with me that Freedom is not Absolute and that's the most important part.
That was never the argument.

In the West where they hypocritically Champion "Human Rights ", couples who practice polygamy are arrested for breaking 'the Law'. I mean, why should the government care so long as none of us (the couples) are complaining? Is that your definition of FREEDOM?
I believe people should be free to marry as many people as they want so long as no one is being forced. But then again, I find it funny that you will accuse the West of hypocrisy when you are doing the very same thing. Or should we also criminalize smoking, lying, gossiping, quarreling etc

In Europe last 2 years, during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, football players who publicly supported Ukraine were praised as Heroes.
Conversely, last year, footballers who stood by Palestine and voiced de-escalation were either suspended, fined or threatened by these so called "Human Right" Champions.
Football clubs are private businesses. People have the freedom to run their businesses the way they want. I will not ban anyone for supporting Palestine from my club but I belive club owners should decide how their businesses are run. That is true freedom. Also note that Youssef Atal publicly called for a “black day for the Jews. So its not like he was completely innocent. A call to violence is not protected speech.
France (the so called Country of Freedom) recently banned Women from completely covering thier bodies in a Law that was apparently targeted at Muslims.
Now, where's the Freedom for the Women who are only comfortable covering thier whole bodies??
I never said that the French are the perfect example of freedom.


In France today, it's okay to insult Islam, that's Human Right. But when Muslims react, it is terrorism.
One should be free to insult any religion. I don't support such behavior but we should be free to criticize religion. And if you react violently when your religion is criticized, you then become a terrorist
Should we also talk about Black Africans being used as target practice by the "Human Rights Champions " in the West??
I can go on and on and it will be like I want to publish a book.
Please explain what you mean here. Blacks being used as target practice? What does that even mean? Please explain so I can respond to this

This is one of the reasons people no longer take the term 'Freedom' seriously because hypocrites only use it when it suit them?

Many people take freedom very seriously. There is even a freedom index to measure how free a country is
Anyone who is not comfortable with the Laws of particular Land should not bother visiting or emigrate. No need making noise.
I agree with this but I don't see its place in our present discussion.

RevenuesBoost:
Once you hear people say, "his wife is controlling him" just know that the family is living in peace.


While we were relocating from our previous house to the current one, the assistant to the pickup guy cornered my husband to tell him, "Don't allow your wife to be controlling you'.
From his looks, you could tell that he is 18yrs or lesser.

My husband told me this. I laughed hard. I was like, people will not learn to mind their business. Shey he would have said it in my presence let me knock that his head😂

Allowing your wife to disrespect you for the sake of a peaceful home is not worth it. I had a neighbor whose wife was like that. The man was dying inside. He later acquired a drinking problem.

Xenry:
Nice guys always finish last.

If this story is true, then you are the only person to blame here, not her. The girl never respected you and as a man, you did not care. Once you lose the respect of your woman, you have nothing.

You refused to demand respect so she knew she could treat you anyhow. I see a version of Will Smith in you but hopefully, you have learned your lessons.

I hope that you recover from the hurt and find a woman who will love and respect you.

Emu4life:
There's no absolute Freedom anywhere.

That alone nullifies every point you are trying to make.
Banks shouldn't have dress codes.
As a Medical Doctor or Scientist I should wear my Native Cloth since that's what I'm comfortable in.
Bestiality should be allowed since people have right to do whatever they want.
Rules are what makes institutions. If ain't comfortable with an institution, you stay away from it. If you ain't comfortable with a Society's laid down rules, you emigrate.
It is very simple.

You are right, there isn't absolute freedom even in Israel. If you steal, you will be arrested but you have the freedom to live your life as you choose as long as you don't infringe on other's freedoms.
Would you be ok if the gov told you what food you should eat chose the clothes you wear and told you how many times you should sleep with your wife?
Again, I see the hypocrisy in criminalizing Homosexuality and refusing to criminalize adultery and fornication. Can you defend that?
To me, freedom is very simple to understand.
Why don't we criminalize gossiping, smoking, and lying since you choose to be the moral police?

mikeapollo:
Don't mind the lazy-thinking hypocrites.

Very lazy people.

It's important to know how the world at large thinks about Tinubu. Here is a glimpse of the world's view of the man. What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BCdnsQvwso

Emu4life:
Rules and Regulations is what make institutions. It's what differentiate Humans from animals.
This is wokism and not Freedom.
People definitely have rights to choose religion but they have no right to spread Moral bankruptcy on the Society. Never!!

Freedom should be at the bedrock of all rules. The world should not be forced to live by your or my moral codes. Every human should decide if he would be woke or unwoke. You and I should just learn to mind our business.

Emu4life:
It's not Freedom. It's Satanism

People should be free to choose Satan or Christ or Mohamed. We shouldn't force everyone to be born again or to be Muslims.

DomPerignon:
Hamas is not in Rafah

They are holed up in northern and central Gaza

Rafah was were the IDF instructed Palestinian refugees numbering over a million to be evacuated to and are now pressuring Egypt to open their borders to see to it that these same refugees are expelled from their land.

What of what is going on in the West Bank with IDF and Israeli militias killing Palestinians and evacuating them from their homes ?

In East Jerusalem in particular, all Arabs have been expelled.

By finish the job, Satanyahu means the total expelling of Palestinians from the entire Gaza strip and west Bank.

It's seems you have good intelligence on Hamas. From you village you seem to know the exact position of Hamas. And somebody will say witchcraft doesn't exist.

adebowales:
More than 4 months, israel yet to free its hostages is a shame to them. May god bless the freedom fighter (hamas)

They have negotiated the freedom of half of the hostages in just 4 months. They are actually doing fine

Emu4life:
Israel that is the Headquarters of Homosexuality and Alcoholism is the Christian God's Home. No wonder the Pope also approved Gayism and Lesbianism in Church.
It is Finished.

Oga, it's called freedom. Israel does not kill homosexuals like their Arab brothers because the believe that everyone has a right to sexual preference.

Watianoengineer:
Bastard man killing innocent Muslims. I pray almighty Allah vindicate Palestine and give them strength to conquer Isreal. Isreal must be conquered for peace to return to the middle east

You guys are so shallow. No one cares about the innocent Muslims being killed in Sudan, Yemen, Syria or any other part of the world. But ones Israel is in the picture, everyone becomes a human rights advocate.

CandidAdmin:
No be US dey supply Israel with weapons?

Even that six-day war, Egypt and co would have finished the job if not for US intervention.

You should educate yourself. The US only started supplying Israel arms in the 70s. The 6 days war was fought in the 60s.
Quiz for you. What percentage of Israel's military budget is funded by the US?