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MaxInDHouse:
You're just eager to argue you're not composed!

I said:
"man's understanding of God's word (Bible) must be updated"

Now calm down to read the above and pay attention to the highlighted in blue!

Oga, that's not an excuse to teach a false doctrine.
Let me give you an example.
You asked me if the robber was born again. Instead of me to teach a false doctrine, I told you that I don't know.
Definitely, one day my knowledge would be updated and I would get to know but it would be wrong to give a false answer or a wrong definition. It is dishonest.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost
This is what happens when you depend on the wisdom of man to create a religion.

MaxInDHouse:
Mistakes in the understanding of God's word that's been the experience of God's people from inception or the ones only modern day worshipers of God are making?

Please come again!

Human beings make mistakes but give me just one instant where a man of God taught a false doctrine to the people of God.
There is not even one instance of this in the entire scripture

cornelboy:
He's just like them. He has nothing to say but fruitless arguements.

Actually the argument was very interesting.
I was arguing with an organization that is made of confused and inconsistent people and beliefs but honestly I enjoyed it

MaxInDHouse:
From what i have gathered so far about him he is doubting God's word but ashamed to come out openly because i have dealt with him several times showing him that only JWs have the accurate updated understanding of God's word.
Check his other threads to see how indecisive he is about God's word!

You have a religion that is inconsistent and filled with mistakes and you are here beating your chest. Continue to embarrass yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
Say that to the understanding of the Bible that's always updated due to the imperfection of God's servants.
This can never change in the teachings of God's word.

God created the earth for mankind to live forever on it {Genesis 1:26-28} it's sin that brought death to mankind {Genesis 2:17} and He is working towards bringing obedient mankind to perfection so we can continue living forever on a renovated earth as he purposed from the start! Psalms 37:9-11, 29; Proverbs 2:20-22; Isaiah 65:21-23; Matthew 5:5} and whatever our God purposed can never become impossible for him to do {Isaiah 55:10-11} that's what it means to one know our God.

As for how He's going to achieve this and when it will happen we will continue to go for updates as Jesus himself doesn't even know when it will happen! Matthew 24:36

So from your own thread it's evident that you don't know the Bible God at all as you can't even speak boldly about what he like or detest like our father Abraham did! Genesis 18:25

The bible does not update. It's a complete collection of books.
I can't remember a time when they needed to make a correction or update to any book in the bible.
Please which year was the bible last updated?

cornelboy:
Lol and you think we don't know that before?

Please when you preach to anyone, don't forget to tell the person that your message might not be true in the future.
MaxinDHouse take note too.

MaxInDHouse:
Let me remind you all that you've said on this thread:

(1) Anybody can read the Bible to know God.
(2) So no need for teachers of God's word.
(3) An armed robber can be BORN AGAIN.
(4) You don't have to belong to any group to be a worshiper of God.
(5) God's servants don't err in their understanding of God's word because holy spirit is guiding them.
(6) All worshipers of God are going to the same place. Heaven.
(7) We can't know God's thought even though we study the Bible.
(8} God doesn't have a unique organization.

All these are totally against the heritage of God's people because we totally disagree with all what you've said. Of course there is always updates on our understanding of certain things in the Bible but never will God's people agree with you that all servants of our God are going to heaven neither can we agree with you that servants of God must have perfect understanding of God's word and our God has never ever chosen a thief to be among His anointed ones because the first crime ever is STEALING!

Just wait a bit, very soon your leaders would update your teachings and the 8 points you wrote above would no longer be relevant.

According to you, your organization was teaching falsehoods about the poor in spirit.

The question you should be asking is, what other falsehoods are they presently teaching.

We would be foolish to believe that they have corrected all their falsehoods.

Remember, up until 2001 they were still teaching this particular falsehood.

In fact, one could be right to say that the JW is a false organization and honestly you don't know if your present beliefs are right or in need of updating.

I am beginning to understand why you guys depend so much on guesswork, its because you really have no true believes.

MaxInDHouse:
If you have anything to discuss with me come out straight to me because i don't even read the comments of your friend!

Oga this world is not about you. This is a forum it's not your parlour.
We are all forging ideas together. You are free to read from who you want but you should not attempt to direct the flow of my communication.
Please respect that.

MaxInDHouse:
He is relying on the deception of apostates who will never tell him anything good about JWs when he thought we are FAITHFULLY OBEDIENT to the Governing Body perhaps because we feel they're perfect or infallible i told him we already know they're capable of making mistakes instead of his friend to quote where the Governing Body said they're prone to errors he kept quiet about that watching him arguing blindly until i proved to him that th one and only servant of God that's infallible is Jesus Christ!

You are in an organization that any or all it's teaches could be wrong by tomorrow. You have an organization that could tweak and change their truth at any moment.
It seems you are one of the most dishonest organizations I have met and trust me, I have met a few hundreds of organizations.

cornelboy:
Lol and you think we don't know that before?

I am happy you know that you can never be sure if your present doctrines and beliefs are correct because you never know when they would be changed

achorladey:
Let me give you this




Versus......




tctrills what is the difference?

This is just about the same as my definition so can MaxinDHouse give us the 2023 translation?

MaxInDHouse:
Since you've agree that the understanding of God's perfect word by imperfect humans needs to be updated do you still worry over that?
Because i will not give you as you hate the truth, now you're convinced that there has never been a time imperfect God's servants got the understanding of God's word perfectly shey?

Ọmọ it's only Jesus of Nazareth who got everything perfectly and that's because he is the only begotten son from God but as for all other servants of God none ever god the understanding of God's word PERFECTLY.

Go through your Bible from Genesis to Revelations you can never see just one i will tell you where they err in their understanding because it's our heritage if anyone ever gets the understanding of God's word perfectly then such a person don't need God's Son as a counselor.

That's what it means when Jesus said:
For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that those believing him might not perish but have everything life. John3:16

So if you're arguing over imperfect humans making mistakes in their understanding of God's word then you don't know why God sent Jesus! His only begotten Son!

I am sure you would not be surprised when the JW finally update all their teachings and agree with all I say.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're going emotional!

When has it come to worship God or servants of God?

Well since you agree that the understanding of God's perfect word by imperfect needs to be UPDATED there's no need for further arguments on that. Whether God's servants gets the understanding at once or they continue updating until they get the expected result what Jesus said is:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20

Jesus knew that imperfect humans will make mistakes in their understanding of God's perfect word so he never said we should look out for their errors rather he said we should look out for the performance of those adhering to their teachings if they're from God their followers will fulfill God's purpose but if not they can never ever fulfil God's promise.

That's why i keep asking you to present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

See this man, you were the one who brought up the worship of God's servent and I only answered your questions.
Oga listen you do not update the true. Try updating the fact that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and let's see how that goes.
2. The meaning of a word or phrase never changes.
In the next 500 years, the phase, 'I want to eat,' would have the same meaning.
Lastly, please browse the word inconsistency.

bolabizzle:
Including pedophiles in your organisation?

Oga I don't think we should turn every thread into pointing out the errors of the JW.
I know they try to impose their religion into every thread but we sometimes forget the purpose of the thread in our debates with them

achorladey:
Cc: Emusan Jehovah’s witnesses are not one. Factions dey



Be our guest




One to keep in the diary . The blame is now on those saying this before now they are saying that . Just you know you just described your GODS and they have turned apostates and you their followers are apostates because your Governing Bodies will always say.....



Light getting brighter na apostasy



No wonder your brains are filled with lies and manipulations and your members are far far away from the beroeans who cared they examine everything and were ready to hold to what is fine




First, when your GODS quote publications of 1900 they are apostates

Second, when they quote those publications and add that they are updating the understanding they had previously it means the former is practically not applicable anywhere. For example according to your religious organization and GODS

1. Governmental Authorities = God = Jesus = true teachings.....Jehovah’s witnesses

2. Governmental Authorities = Political rulers = Christendom = False teachings...... Jehovah’s witnesses

Like nollywood after some years later.... number 2 became the latest and correct understanding number 1 is not applicable anywhere.



Cc: tctrills

I have asked MaxinDHouse to give me links to the updated definition of poor in spirit. He is yet to do so. Let him take his time, I guess he will have it by tomorrow

MaxInDHouse:
Have you ever believe in updates so since you said there's no updates in the understanding of God's word go and worship with perfect servants of God who doesn't err in their understanding of God's word!

I never said there is no updates in understanding the word of God, I said the truth can never be updated.
And stop worshipping servants of God, worship God in truth and spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying this from your own deceptive hearts why not quote God's word to support your arguments that God's ancient servants were perfect in their understanding of the inspired words?

Please can you do me a favor and link me to you publication with the updated definition of poor in spirit.
Please link me to the latest update.

achorladey:
See more madness and insanities peddling.......



Lies and manipulations number 1

You said earlier.....

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From the madness and insanities peddling brains comes the following.....

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What a preacher and teacher of God's words



Now you want to project your madness and insanities peddling brains on tctrills by introducing MISCONSTRUE. You have always been misconstrued all the time. . Signs of your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains



Another lie and manipulations of the scripture



Madness and insanities peddling peddler will never ask his GODS the reason they still see the truth of Christendom in their magazines when they don't trust them or call them lie lie, false Christians


Cc: Emusan

I will continue to expose him

MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying this from your own deceptive hearts why not quote God's word to support your arguments that God's ancient servants were perfect in their understanding of the inspired words?

No God's servent are not perfect but the spirit leading them was.
It's called the spirit of truth for a reason, it doesn't lie

MaxInDHouse:
What story has changed?
I keep telling you that God's people have a long heritage that you need to study before knowing our God.
From Genesis to Malachi all servants of God believe that when the Messiah comes he will start ruling over the earth and bring righteous government.
John the baptist almost doubt Jesus because what himself and all other prophets of God taught people about the Christ never happened as Jesus didn't start ruling as they thought! Matthew 11:2-3
His disciples were confused even after his resurrection because he didn't start ruling immediately as they have thought! Act 1:6-8
So it was later that the spirit of God UPDATED their understanding of God's word that they began helping others to know about the UPDATE! Act 18:24-26

God's people do not have a heritage of lies and deceit.
Yes Spirit never updated any definition

MaxInDHouse:
Lies are things that never yield positivity once the result is positive you can't find anything to say against the truth even though you which it's a lie.
So when you call something a lie then present the truth not just by words but by practical applications that everyone can see.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth as you can't present a better performing group!

Ok is that the JW 2023 definition of lies because I can bet this definition would not last the test of time

cornelboy:
So explain what paradise mean and was the thief born again?

Hope you are following the performance of your beloved brother MaxinDHouse.
He has finally confessed that your organization is not led by inspired men and there are mistakes and imperfections in your doctrine.
This is the most honest he has ever been.
We finally got him to that point.

MaxInDHouse:
Court only comes in when someone or a group is not performing well as peaceful members of the society so your illustration makes no sense!

What about when an organization is dishonest and constantly falsifying their records and changing their story.
Relax no one is taking you to court.
In the words of Christ, the the wheat and the tares grow together.
So fear not you can continue with you dishonesty, no one is taking you to court.

MaxInDHouse:
The only thing the spirit did was to lead them to the promised land everything else is immaterial if they failed to reach the promised land yet instead of 40 days it took them 40 years.
Would you have continue believing such a spirit if you're with the Israelites?

So the spirit did not lie to them or give them false definitions.
It's one thing for your glory to be delayed but it's another thing to be constantly lied to and you are still open to more lies.
Judging from your own words, your organization is nothing but one big fraud.

MaxInDHouse:
Oya take JW organization to court for stealing nah!
Stupid illustration!

Oga you are no longer enjoying your court illustration abi.
Next time learn more about the justice system before talking to educated people.

MaxInDHouse:
You're lying to your own soul.

Moses and the spirit of God led the Israelites for through the wilderness for 40 years instead of 40 days.

Would you have continue believing in such a spirit till the end of 40 years?

God has a reason for everything so if you can't present a better performing group then JWs have it!

Was the spirit constantly changing and editing it's revelations to Moses?
Was the Spirit lying to Moses and hiding the truth from him.

MaxInDHouse:
Go to any court in the world and tell them that JWs aren't performing as God's people they will ask you to present a better performing group that's practicing what Jesus taught as an organized people!

You obviously know nothing about how the law works. If are take an organization to court and accuse them of stealing, I wouldn't be told to present an organization that doesn't steal.
Please what you don't know, keep quiet.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know the meaning of INSPIRED MEN?

Well Jesus had twelve apostles only Matthew, John and Peter were inspired to pen down God's word others were working with them so they can make the best use of God's inspired word. So not all servants of God were inspired!

Don't ask me if I know the meaning of anything because your definition of inspired men would change tomorrow.
But let me ask you then what's the meaning of inspiration?

MaxInDHouse:
The spirit has led us to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as God's word promised {Isaiah 2:2-4} and we speak with one voice once we get updates on our former understanding just like people learning to speak the same language! Zephaniah 3:9

It's you who can't find any group of people to worship with yet you're still finding the truth!

Every group says great things about themselves but we both know that the spirit does not lead one to error.

MaxInDHouse:
So keep finding it while you can't achieve any single thing out of all the promises God made about His worshipers.

I will give you the evidence that only Jehovah's Witnesses are God's worshipers according to what we have achieved as promised in the Bible but you can continue finding your truth that's not working out anything! James 2:18-26

An evidence that is continually updating can't be accepted in any court. It's a false evidence

MaxInDHouse:
The spirit will teach by directing them to better understanding when they err until they get the perfect understanding that WORKS! James 2:18-26

Also, you said you are not led by inspired men so clearly the spirit has no business with your organization

MaxInDHouse:
The spirit will teach by directing them to better understanding when they err until they get the perfect understanding that WORKS! James 2:18-26

The spirit does not teach false interpretation. The spirit does not revise it's teachings.
Was your 2001 interpretation from the spirit?