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MaxInDHouse:
RECOMMENDATION!

I am happy you can make jokes. But I believe we both agree here.

MaxInDHouse:
Yet you have not joined any of them in worship!
I have not joined you but as I said, I understand anyone jealous of these guys but you, it's a waste of jealousy


Worst behaved because we are speaking about our faith shey?
And how has that translated to NOISE?
Hope you still remember the meaning of that word sha?

You try!

You are the worst behaved because you lie and fight like highschool drama queens.

MaxInDHouse:
YES! Those making the best use of it will call it "TRUTH" while idle men who aren't achieving anything will call it "LIES" but those working towards it are living evidence that it's God's will!
Oga you are the one that exposed your organizations lies not me. You made it clear that they had a false definition of the poor in heart even up till 2001. So stop pretending like I did anything to you.
Any idiot can claim that a verse in the bible was talking about him or his organization it doesn't make it so. We deal with facts and evidence. Just because you say it does not make it so

Oh you don't know shey?
Revelations 18:4 declared SEPARATE yourselves from killers who aren't obeying the words of Christ!
Revelation 18.4 says nothing about being in government. I understand the present JW interpretation makes you feel the verse was against Christians joining government but don't worry, one day, you guys would update your interpretation and you would learn.



You're not jealous yet you can't present one group at least to counter the performance of God's people!

I am still looking for a reason to be jealous.
I can understand being Jealous of the Catholic
Or being jealous of the pentecostal
Or being jealous of the Latter day saints
Or being jealous of the salvation army
But no right thinking person can be jealous of JW.
There is no reason for that.


Pharisees called Jesus a IAR but what proved them wrong? Failure to perform better than Jesus in fulfilling God's purpose!
Jesus always proved his truthfulness using the scriptures.
Jesus never asked them to provide a better organization because he knew that was a stupid thing to do.
Rather, the taught them from their scriptures and silenced them.
He did not take part in guesswork.
That's the difference.
You style is very different from his methods.




The most quiet religion ever making noises?
Chai ọmọ cover your face in shame because honest hearted and sincere individuals will tell you that we don't disturb people with NOISE {Matthew 12:19} neither can you see us on TVs ,News papers or Radio making announcement for our religion rather we silently walk into their homes just as Christ Jesus commanded us! Matthew 10:11-13

You can't stop lying. You and your goons are some of the worst behaved people in Nairaland.
Now is it not stupidity, you are not on TV or newspaper but you are on social media and online public forums.
A bunch of confused people.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=127397222]People coming from different geographical locations to study one book while others aren't showing interest means an organization of worshipers. So if you don't understand that's your own cup of coffee!
Please read it never spoke of a book. People come from different areas to Jerusalem to learn the word of God and not to learn lies. Big difference.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses have achieved the separation from politicians and nationalists who are killing their fellow believers in other lands {Revelations 6:3-4} when they're supposed to LOVE their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27 -28} and LOVE their fellow believers just as Jesus Christ loves! John 13:34-35
No bible verse preaches the separation of politics. The problem is that you guys are yet to update your interpretation.

Your desperation to accuse this organization is enough to show how jealous you're against the oneness among God's people! John 17:22
My desire is only to point out your lies. Mention one thing the JW have that would make anyone jealous.
I don't think anyone can be jealous of lies do you?


The same thing the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis said about Jesus when they were hunting the disciples!
They said Jesus' disciples were forcing prophesies on the man they condemned as an impostor! Act 4:18; 5:28

This is no point. Just because someone points out your lies doesn't make him a Pharisee or Sadducee.


So Jesus is right because the same thing you and your cohorts are doing today yet you can't form one religion to perform better than God's organization!
If you ask any non JW to mention to top 20 performing churches, no one would mention JW.
You are the only one that thinks you are doing great.
You are just another mediocre church. Only that you make a lot of noise

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=12739665
The author said these people that come from different geographical locations will form an organization and in that organization they will concentrate on what God's word has for them then they will use it to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves,

No one spoke about forming an organization please apply your education. This is simple English.
The bible never mentioned forming of any organization in those verses. It spoke of a world order that would be ruled from Jerusalem not America.


That's an indisputable sign showing you that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is the one and only true religion having the backing of the Almighty God!

Mention one sign. Please show your sign

Of course you will throw it to the wind as you and all your friends can't present a better performing group that's doing the above.
Oga you are not among the top performing organizations by any metrics


What did the Pharisees and Sadducees said about Jesus and his disciples?
They said Jesus and his followers are liars not to be trusted and if anyone ask them about the Christ promised in the scriptures they say he's yet to come even though they acknowledge John the baptist who declared that he has come to prepare the way for the Christ they are still expecting their own Christ till today despite the fact that Jerusalem has been destroyed along with it's temple and the inhabitants scattered throughout the earth.

You don't force a prophecy and prophecies are not lies.
Your organization does not meet any of the standards in the verses you quoted.
Yes the Pharisees and Sadducees did not believe but Jesus Christ was always able to prove himself using the scriptures.
He did not need to lie, make up things or use guesswork.
He fulfilled scripture 100%. He did not need to force himself or organization into a scripture that was not about him.

Christianoir:
I’ve been writing exam since i haven’t gotten any carryover…Just had one today God cry[u] cry cry I feel disgusted and ashamed.. since I started writing exams since Monday all my grade have been A throughout
It cbt exam once you finish writing you will see your score

I wrote and score 40/100 which is F (carryover)
The course wasn’t that hard..I read it, it was time
60 questions to answer 20min too small.

I don’t know what to do….this is my first
This is my first carryover course since
It breaking me down

I don’t even have to zeal to read for next course again

How old are you?
Please stop acting like a child.
And you don't need to tell the world everything going on in your life.

MaxInDHouse:
EVIDENCE

God's word said:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Who are this organized people today?
Without them there's no evidence that the Bible as God's word is Truth! Isaiah 43:10-12

So if you don't believe in the one and only organization of imperfection humans fulfilling this prophecy today as evidence of God's active force (Holy Spirit) working in the midst of mankind.
What evidence do you have about that book in your hand?

Oga this verse has nothing to do with Jehovah witnesses.
1. It say , 'i will instruct them in the ways of the Lord' It did not say I will instruct them in the way of lies and guess

2. The verse says that He will render judgment among the nations. Clearly the day the Lord is talking about is yet to come.

You ask who are these organized people? Clearly from the verse it can't be JW.
So you see, no evidence.

3Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.
This day is yet to come. So clearly God was not talking about a church or organization but about the future state of the entire world.
When that day comes, there would be peace in the whole world. It has nothing to do with JW.
In that day people would not be deceived anymore. People would not depend on guesswork.
Groups like JW would have no purpose anymore because there wouldn't be a need to depend on guesswork and lies to interprete the word of God.
So you see, No Evidence.

LeoDeKing:
Only a fool will continue listening to the million lies per second coming out of this lying machine.

No wonder you elected rubbish 3 times in a role.
Who are the fools, the idiots that keep voting for APC and improvising Nigeria or Peter Obi?

MaxInDHouse:
You never trust living evidence so there's no need giving you evidence!

Meanwhile your friend is already saying God's word is full of LIES while you are here saying God's organization is full of LIES.


https://www.nairaland.com/7935203/did-exodus-really-happen#127383695

If both of you don't believe in living evidence because you're interested in loopholes where exactly do you think the errors is, God's word, God's organization or you guys?

Oga do you know the meaning of evidence? Please false evidence does not count as evidence.
Again, there are no loopholes in God's words.
God is not man.
Finally when you depend on guesswork, you don't call it God's words, rather you call it the words of inconsistent men.

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew 7:6

You cover one lie with another. How can just one church be rooted in so many lies.
I felt you should be brave enough to show your definition but again I am wrong, it's not the JW pattern. Honesty is just not your style.

MaxInDHouse:
So out of all the religions on planet earth the one and only organization that's fulfilling what God promised belongs to the devil. Matthew 10:24-25

How does that sound to you?

Ọmọ it's you and your unbelieving friends that are thinking God's organization is feeding themselves with lies as long as this organization is concerned they are the one and only group doing God's will.

So before speaking against them present a better performing group that's doing God's will without what you call "LIES" otherwise you're directly or indirectly fighting against the spirit of God {Act 5:39} that's working out what is impossible {Matthew 9:26} in the midst of imperfect humans! Matthew 12:31-32

Your interpretation of Matthew 10:24-25 still comes from the same people that can define the poor in spirit.
You have nothing to celebrate if you are can't honestly interprete the bible.
I can bet that in the next few years, your would give Matthew 10:24-25 a different more practical interpretation.
Same organization that can't define wrongdoers. You guys have zero credibility.

ufotty2001:
Dangote refinery is our only hope to reform our Naira.

Don't be too hopeful. A refinery is not the solution to our Naira problem. It would only be a temporary bandaid.
It takes much more than a refinery to stabilize our Naira.
Hope you know that every barrel of oil given to Dangote refinery is a barrel of oil not exported for dollars.
So yes, Dangote refinery would have an impact but not a lasting one if other measures are not put in place

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know the Bible God and Jesus? John 17:3
This is what He said about Himself:

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts.  For just as the rain and the snow pour down from heaven And do not return there until they saturate the earth, making it produce and sprout, Giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, So my word that goes out of my mouth will be. It will not return to me without results, But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight, And it will have sure success in what I send it to do" Isaiah 55:8-11
You can't find an organization of perfect humans but you're seeing an organization of imperfect humans using the words of Jesus (the Prince of Peace) to achieve what is stated above today yet you're saying the organization is based on lies OK present an organization of worshipers performing better than them you said it's not necessary.
So i ask: do you know the true God at all?

Because He said:
"your ways are not His ways neither your thoughts His thoughts, whatever He purposed He will achieve and nothing can stop His plans from being fulfilled" Isaiah 55:8-11

These are qualities of the FRUIT of His Spirit:
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL, and He adds "against any group that's working towards these qualities there is no law" Galatians 5:22-23

Sorry my friend it's not by force that we agree as long as the true God never used perfect humans to achieve His purpose in the past and never promised that His future purpose will be achieved by perfect humans what we look out for is the organization of IMPERFECT HUMANS doing His will! Matthew 7:21-23

When talking about people to do God's will God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ said:

"I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners." Matthew 9:13

It's a pity that you don't know the indepth meaning of the word SINNER it simply means IMPERFECT HUMANS so while doing God's will inquisitive observers will surely notice loopholes and errors in the way they are handling the divine assignment given to them but the fact remains that they will achieve the purpose for which God's Holy Spirit gathered them.
That's exactly why critics of God's people often complain and in most cases they do attack God's people with the feeling that there's nothing unique about them.

You can continue doing the will of your God as you know your own God we are doing the will of our God as an organized global family of peace loving worshipers. Isaiah 2:2-4

May you have PEACE!

Please can you send me the link to the updated JW definition of poor in spirit or just copy and paste from the site thanks.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know the Bible God and Jesus? John 17:3
This is what He said about Himself:

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts.  For just as the rain and the snow pour down from heaven And do not return there until they saturate the earth, making it produce and sprout, Giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, So my word that goes out of my mouth will be. It will not return to me without results, But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight, And it will have sure success in what I send it to do" Isaiah 55:8-11
You can't find an organization of perfect humans but you're seeing an organization of imperfect humans using the words of Jesus (the Prince of Peace) to achieve what is stated above today yet you're saying the organization is based on lies OK present an organization of worshipers performing better than them you said it's not necessary.
So i ask: do you know the true God at all?

Because He said:
"your ways are not His ways neither your thoughts His thoughts, whatever He purposed He will achieve and nothing can stop His plans from being fulfilled" Isaiah 55:8-11

These are qualities of the FRUIT of His Spirit:
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL, and He adds "against any group that's working towards these qualities there is no law" Galatians 5:22-23

Sorry my friend it's not by force that we agree as long as the true God never used perfect humans to achieve His purpose in the past and never promised that His future purpose will be achieved by perfect humans what we look out for is the organization of IMPERFECT HUMANS doing His will! Matthew 7:21-23

When talking about people to do God's will God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ said:

"I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners." Matthew 9:13

It's a pity that you don't know the indepth meaning of the word SINNER it simply means IMPERFECT HUMANS so while doing God's will inquisitive observers will surely notice loopholes and errors in the way they are handling the divine assignment given to them but the fact remains that they will achieve the purpose for which God's Holy Spirit gathered them.
That's exactly why critics of God's people often complain and in most cases they do attack God's people with the feeling that there's nothing unique about them.

You can continue doing the will of your God as you know your own God we are doing the will of our God as an organized global family of peace loving worshipers. Isaiah 2:2-4

May you have PEACE!

The devil is the father of lies and any church that feeds lies to it's people is of the devil.

You are right, your thoughts are not his thoughts.
His thoughts are not deceitful. He is not into lies.
So you are right, an organization that is filled with false definitions can never have his thoughts.
I am not even asking you to be a perfect human organization, but at least be an honest organization.
You also talk about imperfections or imperfect humans and you are right.
But imperfect humans admit it when they don't know. You can't blame your dishonesty on imperfections.
For example, you asked me if the robber was born again and I told you that I don't know.
I did not deceive or misdirect you.
You on the other hand, with no passage in the bible to suggest he wasn't born again was ready to confuse, deceive and even redefine just to win an argument.

MaxInDHouse:
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The GUESSWORK
The TEST of TIME
The UNCOMMON SENSE
The BLAME
The PITY
The FOOLISHNESS

Has all resulted in the fulfilment of the above scripture so stylishly insulting people for their faith doesn't mean you're wiser!

I was not insulting you but the scripture you quoted was not about a false organization. It was not about an organization based on lies and the act of lying. It's about an organization centered on the truth.
So sorry the verses have nothing to do with JW.
Again please send me the updated definition of poor in spirit

MaxInDHouse:
Lol!

You have a religion that can stand the test when measured against the bible.
You have a religion to can't stand when measured against common sense.
Your entire organization is based on irregular guesswork and is really not practical.
But then, humans fall for anything so I don't blame you.
I only feel pity for you.
You are being used and there is no reward for foolishness no matter how good your intention.

oteneaaron:
Well, they recently released some new light concerning the resurrection of people who died during the flood and during the disaster of Sodom and Gomorah.

They would continue to fool themselves

MaxInDHouse:
How can you know do you even know a single thing about God?

Your God can approve an armed robber to rule as king!

Yes God would approve repented sinners to rule in his kingdom.
Obviously your leaders would soon update you so for now I don't blame you fro not knowing

MaxInDHouse:
So you're not one of Abraham's spiritual descendants, he boldly told our God:

You have no right to punish the righteous the same way you did with evildoers! Genesis 18:25

That's what it takes to know our own God!

I honestly don't know what you are talking about here so I don't know how to reply.
Who is punishing the righteous or who has a right to punish the righteous.
Please go back to topic.
We can talk about punishing the righteous another time

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you the UNCHANGEABLE PURPOSE of God regarding mankind and our planet home because Jesus confirmed it that it's still the same! Matthew 5:5

So you can continue deceiving yourself!

Please don't forget to provide the links showing the JW updates on the Poor in spirit.
Post the link and the year the update was made.
Thanks

oteneaaron:
That is exactly how many of their flip flop doctrines were formulated.

They make unfounded assumptions using words like "perhaps", "likely", etc.

Ask thenm for evidence and they'd start mumbling.

It's funny that they have nothing to teach but are comfortable switching from one believe to the other for the sake of arguments

cornelboy:
Lol 😂😂

Now learn some wisdom, the 120 of Pentecost were never the first to be born again

Let's go through some scripture.
1 Thessalonians 4:16

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Here we learn that the followers of Christ shall rise first.
Now who were the first people to rise?
Matt 27

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
There were saints who where born again even before pentecost

cornelboy:
Lol 😂😂

You can't be projecting personal opinion or the teachings of your fellow human when discussing bible truths.
Pls how do you know that the 120 were the first born again in history?
There is no register of the names of all born again so you don't make up things.
It's ok to say 'I don't know.'
You don't need to start inventing new theories for the sake of an argument.

cornelboy:
Lol 😂😂😂
The first born agains were even the 120 on the day of Pentecost. Does that ring something to your ear?
You don't know anything I swear.

Guesswork again. The bible never said these were the first born again.
Could you quote the verse that state that the first born again we're 120 on the day of Pentecost?
Please stick to the bible and not what you think or what the leaders in your organization thaink

MaxInDHouse:
I thought you said you're a Pro in English.

So you don't know the difference between BELIEVES and UNDERSTANDING how things works out.

God's truth remains that Earth will be mankind's home forever and we will continue to enjoy peace in it! Psalms 37:9-12, 29

That's the BELIEVE of all servants of Jehovah from Abel till today but as for UPDATES on how all these things will happen stage by stage UPDATES is inevitable due to man's imperfection!

Did any of these servants of God teach falsehoods to their followers?
Only the JW do so. That's the big difference.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy answer this question!

What exactly did John the baptist teach his disciples about the Christ so that Christians had to UPDATE the understanding of Apollos one of John's disciples? Act 18:24-26

You want to start your guesswork with what John taught or what he did not teach?
Well he never taught falsehoods how about that.
Just because the JW teach falsehoods doesn't mean that John and everyone else did it.

cornelboy:
You thinking that an armed robbers could be a born again shows how very confused you're 😂😂😂
It says a lot.
Why not remove the log in your eyes first before trying to remove the speck in our eyes. Bloody confused hypocrite!

That's the problem with you, your religion is based on guesswork.
The bible did not state if the robber was born again or not and I am not JW to assume that he wasn't.

MaxInDHouse:
You love deceiving yourself just to feel OK.

A teacher of God's word who has disciples he's teaching about the Messiah that's coming after him is questioning the authenticity of the Messiah and you're saying he doesn't teach what he thought to his disciples!

Oya o what exactly did he teach his disciples about the Christ so that the Christians had to UPDATE the understanding of Apollos one of John's disciples? Act 18:24-26

Sometimes i just laugh at your pride because it really shows you're not interested in the truth!

Asking questions is not the same thing as teaching falsehoods.
Big difference
We ask questions because we don't know but you teach falsehoods because you pretend to know.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you the UNCHANGEABLE PURPOSE of God regarding mankind and our planet home because Jesus confirmed it that it's still the same! Matthew 5:5

So you can continue deceiving yourself!

God's purposes are unchangeable, his truths are unchangeable but your beliefs are changeable, inconsistent and manmade

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you times without number that as long as a doctrine is ACHIEVING WHAT GOD PURPOSED it is not false.
UPDATES doesn't mean something is false it only shows that mankind is imperfect so we can't get perfect understanding of God's word at a go.

You don't even know God's purpose because tomorrow your leaders would change the definition of God's purpose.

MaxInDHouse:
So tell me what John meant when he sent his disciples to ask Jesus:

“Are you the Coming One, or are we to expect a different one?” Matthew 11:3

All the Jews from the time of Jacob (Israel) has the same believe that the Christ will start ruling as king whenever he comes so you can't argue this it's clear to any reasonable reader you don't even need to study it because it's as simple as ABC!

Like I said, he never taught a falsehoods about Jesus.
Asking a question is different from teaching false doctrine.
You ask a question when you don't know instead of teaching the wrong things.
That's what John did and that's what the followers of Jesus Christ do.
They do not operate on guesswork or make up their own definitions.

MaxInDHouse:
John the baptist was the greatest of all ancient servants of God before Christ Jesus. Matthew 11:11-12

What he believe is that the Christ will start operating as King after his anointing just like other ancient Israelite Kings.
So when Jesus didn't do that John questioned Jesus' authenticity if the Jews should be expecting someone else! Matthew 11:2-3

That is exactly what he taught his own disciples because he can't believe one thing and teach another so when the UPDATE on that understanding came the Christians helped one of John's disciples (Apollos) with the LATEST UPDATE in the understanding of God's word! Act 18:24-26

Ask another question!

John the Baptist never taught that Christ would start operating as King. He never taught one falsehoods.
Please mention the verse where John taught the nonsense you just stated.
No true man of God goes about teaching what God has not inspired him to teach.