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budaatum:
I'd be trying to deceive you with lies if I claimed it wasn't my opinion. And I'd also be claiming I can not think for myself if it were the opinion of someone else. Therefore, your respect, though not sought, is very highly appreciated and reciprocated.

MrMxyptlk:
Truth is Christianity will always be tyrannical to me. Cause, it's not about being a good person, its the fact that, even while being good(or tryna be), you can't make the pearly gates unless you belief in a particular existence of which sadly, there's no solid proof.

Basically, christianity says, you've never hurt anyone but you dont believe Jesus is the way so you'll still suffer, but he's killed lots, sent lots to hell, put families in depressive states but he makes heaven cause he says "God, forgive me".

The concept of inherited sin(Adam's sin sucks more). Let's simplify this(Christians reading this are already saying you can't simplify the things of God, but oh well, I'll proceed eitherways). I'll use my life as an example, My mom is a teacher. When I was in grade 2, my class teacher then had a daughter who was in Grade 5. My mom was her daughter's Math teacher and she was mad at my mom cause my mom refused to alter her daughter's grades to make them much better. She, in her annoyance took it out on me and my grades. On first listen and even subsequent listen, everyone will say "Na, that was wrong". But that exactly is what God is doing to us all. I never "chose" to eat any forbidden fruit but here I am, suffering from someone else's decision to sin.

Again, Christians say their God is omniscient. "He knew us and all about us before we were formed in our mother's womb". That I'll like to expand further to say, he knew how we'll end our lives too. Then why create someone being 100% certain that he/she would end up in hell? And if he doesn't know how we'll end up, is he really Omniscient?

If my child steals a piece of meat from the pot and I decide to kill that child, y'all will definitely say "Fam, that's an overkill". But I live in sin(probably not even harming others, just ignorant about christ), then I die and burn "FOREVER". Honestly, that's unfair.

"Jacob I loved, Esau I hate"
"All are called, few are CHOSEN"
"I'll have mercy on whom I chose to have mercy on"
This is someone who loves us all equally?

DeOTR:
Bible made it clear that Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus also said that he came out from God.
It's those preaching absurdities like only one person is the Father, Son and also the Holy Spirit that are misleading unbelievers.

jaephoenix:
Ok, my elder bro.
Now here's the question sir.
The attributes of a god includes omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, omnibenevolent etc. So you pray so you'll have all these powers?

budaatum:
The difference is in the how. I may propagate a doctrine religiously, whereby I consistently and with conscientious regularity repeat it till you accept and believe it.

But since I do not want you to agree with me (see my "do not believe" above), I am not indoctrinating you into my "religion", or rather, my understanding.

The word "religion" is problematic to define, you will find.

jaephoenix:
You're just going round in circles.
Can you explain concisely what you mean by 'becoming like god' and 'becoming sons of god'?
Explain as if I'm a 6 year old

jaephoenix:
What are your full potentials

jaephoenix:
Maybe you don't understand my question, or your theist brain doesn't wanna think outside its box.
Lemme rephrase… further
WHY DO YOU NEED GOD?

budaatum:
The bold is true. A doctrine that is not religiously propagated is just a doctrine. But if I religiously (with consistent and conscientious regularity) indoctrinate with a military or any other doctrine and it becomes accepted and practised by many, a religion it becomes.

You will find that there is a general problem with defining the word religion, which is why understanding must grow.

jaephoenix:
Can you bring a knife to a gun fight? No!
This world got advanced via science. People can travel around the world in one day, what was unheard of years ago. You can see and talk to someone in the other side of the world, a feat unheard of years ago. It did not happen by religion. Not by singing hymns every Sunday. Not by having faith. Just science. And science is based on facts and logic. Not faith.
So if science is beneficial, why should I engage in religion? What are the benefits of religion as against science?

jaephoenix:
1. So are you saying Yahweh didn’t created everything in the world?
How do you mean?
2. So let me get it right. So if we become good people we'll basically defeat an omniscient and omnipresent devil? Really? How?
Yes we defeat the forces of evil whenever we choose to do good.
3. I'm talking about Adam failing the test Yahweh gave him
Failing a test is never a problem. Peter failed 3 tests yet he was chosen to lead the church. Falling and standing up again is how we learn to walk. God expects us to make mistakes.
4. Ok

jaephoenix:
Is that your answer? Such lame excuse for not having an idea

budaatum:
The "economic systems" of Communism and capitalism become religions when they are treated as doctrines and when people are indoctrinated with or into them.

Christianity is a social system. Religion is the process by which it is propagated. Even the education system in Nigeria is taught in a religious manner, which is why we believe instead of seek to understand and know.

But I would understand if you do not know what I am saying.

budaatum:
China is religionised! Their religion is Communism.

Perhaps consider that another word for religion is doctrine. And another word for religionised is (in)doctrinate, which China has very well done, with force.

America too is religionised. Theirs is Capitalism, amongst many others, being the land of the free and the brave where force is unacceptable.

Another word for it is indoctrinated

AntiChristian:
You are ignorant! If I educate you, you won't believe it so do your own research!

They are available in public space!

AntiChristian:
And most of them have been linked to the CIA or let's say USA.

Are Islamic groups behind the terrorism in China?

In Palestine?

The development of COVID-19 variants to kill more people?

AntiChristian:
What's the difference between an Islamic country and Muslim populated country?

What about Tunisia, Egypt, Senegal, UAE, Qatar, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Brunei, Kuwait, etc.

Kalatium:
Karl Marx described religion as the opium of the masses because he viewed it as a tool used by the ruling class to placate and control the working class.

He argued that religion offered false hope to the working class, distracting them from their struggles and providing them with a false sense of security.

Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors.

What do you think?

jaephoenix:
Why do you think so?

optionalY09:
In a twitter post i saw a man believed to be Yoruba lying lifeless on the floor while people believe to be from igbo origin jubilating that one Thug has been shut dead.

If that’s true that igbos have guns in Lagos and are shooting Yoruba people calling them thugs. We are interested in knowing the community that’s condoning such act of terror upon their host so that we can send security operative there to inquire from them whose authority they are operating on for them
to kill an indegene of Lagos State

Sawoolu please take note of this post because after this election. I will appreciate if you give me an independent office in Lagos as special adviser on indigene freedom and security.

A proposal has been sent already

jaephoenix:
At least you are smarter than your theist friend. You are using some part of your brain by thinking slightly outside the box, not wholly outside. But there's a warning: keep thinking outside this box long enough, and you'll end up an atheist. Don't say you weren't warned. Quietly creep inside the safety of that box of religion

AntiChristian:
K

As your speech no dey make any sense again!

AntiChristian:
Where is the fight?

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the twisted devil looking for how he can force salvation. You won't get it. You shall live in the eternal fire for you are evil just like Satan.

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the devil looking for how to save his twisted evil soul and wash his blasphemous sins. Blasphemy is unforgivable and you knew that even before you did it, which is why you shall die in your sins.

AntiChristian:
War?

Na you call am that o!
Everything in Christianity na war!
You pray! Na war!
You have enemies everywhere!

Dtruthspeaker:
Your threads call you a liar even in here, you were twisting (but this one is not as bad as all the others) and that is why I hate you for you are an evil person which is why your sins can never be wiped away for you are a devil.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ehen, you have deceived yourself so much that you want to act like you do not remember all your nonsense threads where you were twisting Truths?

Just go and die.

AntiChristian:
But i no dey battle online?
How do you battle online?