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anitazion:
Christians should be more focused on Christ than on worldly affairs

Christians should be very involved in the politics.

Proverbs 29:2
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: But when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

Britishpea:
Isn’t it even funny people think buying votes by Tinubu to win an election makes him a bad candidate? All candidates will buy votes according to their pockets. Buying vote or not buying doesn’t make a candidate a good one at governance.

Buhari had no money to buy votes and was all about integrity but what’s the result today?

Tinubu, at large had exhumed his dexterities on so many occasions in all things he laid his hands on and succeeded. It takes a man with Midas touch to turn sham to glam. He stands tall. If people are angry that he’s wealthy. Maybe those people should try poverty. He wasn’t the only governor that led a state in 1999 till date. What’s stopping others to be wealthy as he is.

This means he is an intelligent man who knows how to turn situations to blessings.
For us that knew Lagos before Tinubu became a governor we can’t be brainwashed on what he did to place Lagos on the pedestal of success today.

Robert greenfield would say that “foresight is what a leader needs to work and he lacks it, he’s only walking” Tinubu is a man of foresight. He stands tall.

He’s a quintessential leader. A man with wisdom to reposition Nigeria.

Nigeria needs him right now. I have no doubt that he will win and he will perform the Excellently well.

You not Tinubu are the very problem of Nigeria

[quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=120707799][/quote]Why can't you just say " I am sorry I lied," and then move on? No body is going to beat you. In fact you would be respected for it.

jesusjnr2020:
The devil is a liar!

John 8:44 (KJV)

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Loooool if you like, write in red or green. You are only a hustler and a liar. Stop fooling people with cheap lies. When I see boys like you who just come here to lie, I wonder what you gain from your foolish dishonesty. At least, if you want to lie, tell a lie that can't easily be pointed out

jesusjnr2020:
Should A Christian Also Read The "Sixth And Seven Books Of Moses"?

I recently saw a thread where someone offered the sixth and seventh books of Moses for sale in this section, and something that happened to my friend after he was given the seventh book of Moses immediately came to mind.

At the time I had been hearing of the seventh books of Moses, and obviously what really aroused my curiosity or attracted my attention to the book was that it was named after "Moses" in the Bible, so being a Christian, who very knew about the biblical Moses and the books he wrote in the Bible, that gave me the impression that it was possibly related to him, and probably a continuation of his books in the Bible.

Hence the curiosity to find out what it was really about, as i didn't know what to make of it yet. But that was not until something serious happened to my friend after he received the book from his friend in school.

He was a friend of mine during the days I was still a sinner. We weren't that close though, but I can remember once arranging a Christmas party together with him a long time ago, as was the custom during those days.

He was a student of a university situated somewhere in the east, and obviously he was a cultist, so one day while yet on campus, one of his cultist' friends had given him the "seventh books of Moses". Although he didn't open it yet to read it but just dropped it on his table at his room at school, and traveled back to his family home in Port Harcourt.

But on getting to his room where he lived in Port Harcourt, after opening the door, he saw the same "seventh book of Moses", which he left at school, on the table in his room in Port Harcourt.

He almost ran mad, that's if he didn't really do so for a while, as he was behaving strangely afterwards on the streets, culminating in him foolishly confronting the police which eventually landed him in a police cell.

After I heard he had been released from detention and was back at home, I immediately went to see him to confirm this, also at the time I had just repented, so I felt being there could be of benefit to him.

When I got to his house, I saw him sat on one of the seats of the dinning table of his house, so I sat down next to him, and from close range, I could see that he has been seriously beaten, as his eyes was bloodied and his tooth was broken. I felt really sorry for him.

As a result, i felt compelled to tell him to repent, to save himself from such a situation. I think I also prayed with him before I left.

Hence, after what happened to my friend after he was given the "seventh books of Moses" by his fellow cultist' friend on campus, even though i had just repented and started my walk with God at the time, i didn't need anyone else to tell me that it was not of God, but of the devil and a diabolic book which had absolutely nothing to do with God, despite it being called by the name of Moses in the Bible.

The name Moses obviously was used as a ploy by the devil to also lure many, especially Christians to the book, as was typical of him, so that when they are drawn to it as a result, before they knew what was happening, they would already be trapped in his demonic web.

This is not hear-say but a true story about what happened to my own friend after he was given the book by his cultist' friend, so it's not a book I'd advise any Christian to read or have anything to do with.

It's satanic!

God bless.

You boys just tell stupid and cheap lies. If everyone that reads the book goes mad, the book would have ran out of publication.

Eviana:
A-men and absolutely. Prayer is the lifeline to the Lord.

Hi, I am not a member of your church. I have visited 2 or 3 times and heard extensive discussions with friends who go to your church.
Thanks for your intelligent and well written thread.
But a few things here, I think you are putting too much into the bag.
You make it hard for the ordinary person to appreciate and follow.
I believe if you post constantly, discussing one point or topic at a time in different threads, you would better pass the message. This method of pumping out so much doctrine in just one thread would not serve the majority of people.
Note, this is just my opinion, I might be wrong.

marlow1962:
Na God you go ask that one

See how you are making a fool of yourself. Don't you realize when someone is making you look stupid?

Why didnt Joseph, in a similar situation didnt lose restraint. Hmm? Joseph did not open himself to temptation, he fled from it. Unlike you, Joseph would not have engaged in porn claim he has self restrain.

The common denominator in both is nudity.
Not all males are moved by nudity, hence cant or wouldnt necessarily develop into a handicap
Nudity isn't the denominator. Doctors and nurses are exposed to nudity everyday. It you keep reading about sex and watch blue flim you are polluting your soul. On the other hand, a doctor is not polluting his soul when he treats a naked patient. That is why we are comfortable to take off our cloths before a doctor or s nurse.


I see a person being intimidated by easy, simple and harmless questions I see a young porn fan who is confused and is asking irrelevant questions that only waste time.

Can you say that you honestly and honourably created the thread please point out the dishonesty in my actions because I can say I was 100 percent transparent with you.



Clearly, there is a time and place for porn oga better flee from porn and save your sinking soul

NNTR:
You know you'll expose yourself to hits, if you so much dare answer those questions

The fear of those questions, causes you hide

Its is because you havent the concept of what, ordinarily, means

You're more a fool, refraining from talking about what point did king David committed a sin, or running from saying what negative lust means

Classic example of self restraint, is, give a cat, a bowl of milk to guard for one hour, and come back to see the bowl of milk intact, meaning untouched and without so much of a lick of it by the cat.

Its only a learner and a small minded bigot, who would furtively go open up a thread, to try distort an issue and blow it out of proportion

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Now it's clear you honestly don't understand. I feel you are not trying to be mischievous but you just don't understand.
Why are your questions our of place?
Our discussion is about engaging in pornographic literature and materials.
David did not engage in such. He saw a naked woman and lost restrain.
Bumping into a woman taking her bath is not the same as engaging in pornographic literature.
Now if mistakenly you bumping into porn, self restrain means that you immediately take of your eyes. Only a fool would continue to engage in porn in the name of self restrain.
Do you now see why your question was not fit for our discussion?

You are right when you say
"Its only a learner and a small minded bigot, who would furtively go open up a thread, to try distort an issue and blow it out of proportion"
That was why I took premission and I quoted you word for word. I see that you are getting uncomfortable. Clearly you are the only Christian that sees virtue in porn

NNTR:
You're just like the serpent. Sneaky and sly
Latching on words, twisting them out of shape and distorting them.
Three easy, direct, simple and harmless questions, you are afraid to answer.
Hiding from answering the three question and he wants to have a discussion. Pfft.
You arent having a discussion, you are schemer feeding your fixed agenda.

Weak minded males, wouldnt know what self restraint is. Talkless how to practice self restraint

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Oga your questions have nothing to do with the topic. Ask relevant questions and you would get my reply.

You can't be bringing up distractions and expect me to follow in that direction. I would be a fool to start talking about David and lust when that has nothing to do with our discussion.
Self restrain means staying away from sexual material. You can't be a porn watcher are claim that you have self restrain. It does not work that way.

NNTR:
Simply and kindly, without going on a tangent, just answer the three numbered questions, put to you please. Thank you.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

But the questions have nothing to do with the discussion sir.
Someone who practice self restrain would not engage in reading or watching pornography materials

NNTR:
2 Samuel 11:2
2One evening David got up from his couch
and was walking on the roof of the king’s palace,
and from there he saw a woman bathing;
and she was very beautiful in appearance.
3David sent word and inquired about the woman.
Someone said, “Is this not Bathsheba,
the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?”
4David sent messengers and took her. When she came to him, he lay with her.
And when she was purified from her uncleanness, she returned to her house.
5The woman conceived; and she sent word and told David,
“I am pregnant.”

Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that whoever looks at a woman and cherishes lustful thoughts
has already in his heart become guilty with regard to her.

1. Can a man (e.g. king David) admire a beautiful woman without sexually fantasizing about her or without lusting after her?
2. At what point(s) in 2 Samuel 11:2 above, did king David commit a sin?
3. What does lust mean?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Looool. You mean you watch porn just to admire beautiful women without sexually fantasizing about them?
From the example you gave, it's clear that you don't understand what porn or explicit content is. Writing about sex in itself is not necessarily classified as sexual literature. It is the discriptive nature of sexual acts or sexual emotions that we are talking about here.
So bumping into a naked woman is not porn. When David saw a naked woman, that was not pornography by any account. Sexually explicit content is not the same thing as mistakenly seeing a woman's body.
When you intentionally read literature or watch content filled with sexual material then you somehow convince yourself that you do it just to admire beautiful women, oga you just dey play.

MrPresident1:
itibolibo, once in a blue moon you do have moments of extreme perspicacity! There is no single lie in what you have said. I do accept that I am mediocre, living a mediocre life, and of no influence whatsoever. But this is actually for the present time.

I am tired of my mediocre existence, this is why I want Christ to come and the kingdom of God established right here on earth. This is the promise of God to me, that I will reign with Christ.

When Christ who is my life appears, I shall throw away the yoke of a mediocre existence. I will appear with Christ in glooorrrry

Colossians 3:4 KJV
When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

So, iti, since you have no troubles, no tribulations, which means you are part of the people presently enjoying this upside down world, then you surely are among the first that shall become last . People like you who have no troubles at the present, who are in the front, will go to the back, you will become last when Christ is revealed

Matthew 19:30 KJV
[30] But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.

This is too long for me to read

pocohantas:
The need to announce it and have people beg them and try to convince them to marry comes from a place of low self esteem. No one would even notice except his family and neighbours. 200m people in Nigeria would move on.

Lol

Frist I must say, this is not my opinion.
I was having discussion with one of the big names on Nairaland Religion and he came up with this new idea that porn isn't a sin.
As Christians do you think it is sinful to indulge in porn?
Below are his very words,
Now, fyi porn isnt necessarily a sin. Porn becomes a sin, when it causes one to indiscriminately lust after flesh, with an indiscriminate lust of the eyes."
What do you think?

KlausMichaelson:
I am having second thought on that. But with the way things are going, I may end up not marrying.
Being a very sensitive person,I rather live with Peace than with someone who will give me recurring headaches every day and night for the rest of my life.

You wouldn't be the only one not to marry so no problem. It's selfish to marry when you know it would not go well at last.

NNTR:
You are unable to grasp that, its only you trying in ignorance here, hence why you are still battling arguing with yourself

False equivalence

The bible aside from Song of Solomon has its fair share of what you call porn.

Now, fyi porn isnt necessarily a sin. Porn becomes a sin, when it causes one to indiscriminately lust after flesh, with an indiscriminate lust of the eyes

Song of Solomon, comes in handy after or when already drawn to Christ

Song of Solomon teaches, a godly man how to relate to, perceive or know his missus. In away, it’s kind of a manual, the Bible’s guide to love making in a marriage.

Song of Solomon, among other things, teaches how to match or surpass the tender love Jesus Christ has for His bride pka church

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

We should open a thread and quote your words
"Now, fyi porn isnt necessarily a sin. Porn becomes a sin, when it causes one to indiscriminately lust after flesh, with an indiscriminate lust of the eyes."
Let's do this to see what others think about porn and your strange new doctrine of porn.

The bible aside from Song of Solomon has its fair share of what you call porn.

We, fyi porn isnt necessarily a sin. Porn becomes a sin, when it causes one to indiscriminately lust after flesh, with an indiscriminate lust of the eyes

Mr pron defender, you clearly don't understand what porn is. There is nothing like Good porn or Holy porn.


Song of Solomon teaches, a godly man how to relate to, perceive or know his missus. In away, it’s kind of a manual, the Bible’s guide to love making in a marriage.
No, Solomon does not teach that. And you don't need Solomon to activate your sexuality towards your wife. No verse in the entire book is reliant in restoring peace to homes or marriages

Song of Solomon, among other things, teaches how to match or surpass the tender love Jesus Christ has for His bride pka church
Equating God's love to your sexual desire is base, stupid and irresponsible.

MrPresident1:
iti, now you know the whôre that is charge of all our troubles.

Lol unlike you, I have no troubles. The thing is this, you are trying too hard to make yourself important but you are mediocre. You have no influence. And it's both sad and funny watching you try. You can never make it

NNTR:
The one and only person, doing arguments, plainly is no other person, than in-denial 'humble' yourself.

If that be the case, then shut the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo up or put up with it

Clearly you have no idea what theological metaphor or allegory is

Its only a dumbo, who wouldnt know that Song of Solomon is for adult consumption. It legimately and rightfully deserves its place in the Ketuvim. Duh

I guess its too much a challenge for you, to go, compare Song 3:1-5 with John 20:1-17 to marvel at the similarity in the experiences outlined, in the two chronologically distanced scriptures

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Your argument again makes little sense. There are many verses in the Quran that are similar to the bible, does it make the Quran of God?
Yes the Song of Solomon is for adults, porn is also for adults so again your point is empty.
Now let's go practical. Show me how the verses below draw you to Christ:

The song of songs, which is Solomon's.

2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.

3 Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.

4 Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

7 Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?

8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents.

9 I have compared thee, O my love, to a company of horses in Pharaoh's chariots.

10 Thy cheeks are comely with rows of jewels, thy neck with chains of gold.

11 We will make thee borders of gold with studs of silver.

12 While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof.

13 A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.

14 My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire in the vineyards of Engedi.

15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.

17 The beams of our house are cedar, and our rafters of fir.

IyaTola:
if you don't have anything, you should not have made any comment. Kindly leave the thread.

He is right, you are the expert, do your thing.

[quote author=wwwihy post=120645774]Like Kate Henshaw, Obidients don't understand simple English Language[/quote]We have an election coming up that would shape our future but you kids get excited by distraction.

NwekeUG:
Mum Had 2 Kids Before Marrying My Dad, Then Married Another Man With Her 7 Kids - Toyin Lawani Slams Critic

Celebrity fashion designer, Toyin Lawani has slammed a man for saying that 95% of men will never marry a woman who has a child, IGBERETV reports.

Toyin said that many single mothers have men begging to marry them and adopt their kids.

To prove her point, She added that her mother already had two kids before her father married her. Her parents proceeded to have 5 kids together in addition to the 2 her mother came into the marriage with. After her parents' relationship ended, she said her mother still found a man who married her with all 7 of her kids.

She added that a man who loves you genuinely will never think about your baggage. She said the man who made the statement is a "hungry lazy crocodile."

Her Instagram post read;



https://www.instagram.com/p/CoNCoP0s0aS/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

I think it's cultural. Some cultures enjoy women who have gone through multiply men others don't. I don't know which is the best anyway.

FreddieGray:
My guy...I feel you... omo!! They can drive you crazy(talking from experience).
It's easier for a woman to get into my head and make me very uncomfortable.

Looool. Once I see the F sign by there name, it's say gobe for me.

NNTR:
If you are not pleased with the Song of Solomon being in the canon, then rip out the pages from your bible copy then.

This is something, that Jewish tradition takes as a theological metaphor or allegory of the relationship between God and Israel, and the same entire Song of Solomon in its original Hebrew, is read in synagogues during the intermediate days of Passover

Compare Song 3:1-5 with John 20:1-17 to marvel at the similarity in the experiences outlined, in the two chronologically distanced scriptures

2 Timothy 3:16-17
16All Scripture is God-breathed [given by divine inspiration]
and is profitable for instruction, for conviction [of sin],
for correction [of error and restoration to obedience],
for training in righteousness [learning to live in conformity to God’s will,
both publicly and privately--behaving honorably with personal integrity and moral courage];
17so that the [a]man of God may be complete and proficient, outfitted
and thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Letting you, know, how naive it is for anyone, to type that the Song of Solomon is an uninspired work of God

1 Kings 4:29-33
29And God gave Solomon wisdom, exceedingly deep insight,
and understanding beyond measure, like the sand on the seashore.
30Solomon’s wisdom was greater than that of all the men of the East,
greater than all the wisdom of Egypt.
31He was wiser than all men—wiser than Ethan the Ezrahite,
and wiser than Heman, Calcol, and Darda, the sons of Mahol.
And his fame spread throughout the surrounding nations.
32Solomon composed three thousand proverbs,
and his songs numbered a thousand and five.
33He spoke of trees, from the cedar in Lebanon to the hyssop growing in the wall,
and he taught about animals, birds, reptiles, and fish.

Only a pervert or dumb-ass would teach kids, the gospel of Jesus Christ using sexually explicit adult content, which obviously is tantamount to subjecting them to child abuse

Yes, the bible can be a lethal weapon, and as a gun, when handed to children, you either put the gun safety latch on, to prevent the hammer contacting the cartridge primer or firing pin when at rest and make sure its not Song of Solomon bullets that are loaded on the gun you've given the children to 'play with' or learn shooting practices with

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

All you arguments are out of place. I have no problem with romantic poetry so it remains in my Bible. Solomon wrote inspired proverbs but clearly, unless we want to fool ourselves, we don't worship God with erotic poetry.
I thought we had already settled this. You agree to teach your children erotic content while I protect my kids from porn.

advocatejare:
Thank you. He thinks that he’s smart, there are many of them sending me dm just because they want to track me down.

Donkmore and his likes, all the evil you plot shall fall back on you if you don’t desist!

Oga please be careful with these guys, they are very deadly.

MrPresident1:
iti, you're not adding any intellectual value to the thread. But bantering with you enables the tread to remain in the FP of religion section, and increases exposure and readership, so you're useful in that sense

Lool I know you are enjoying exposure that you could not get without me. You are welcome.

FreddieGray:
If I talk now, dem go call me misogynist.
But I've seen some very bright and intelligent women and I've learnt from them.

Me too. I never said women are not bright and intelligent. It's just that insults from women are twice as painful so I do everything to prevent their insults and I find it hard to insult a woman. If it were my fellow man, we go join curse ourselves.

FreddieGray:
Sarcasm is the least of it's (sic) problem.
It has very little knowledge of geography

I just discovered it's a female. I have learnt from sad experience not to debate a female online.

1stGenAmerican:
But if Togo can defeat the US in 30 minutes, why publicly beg the US? Does Togo and China provide hundreds of million dollars in foreign aid to Nigeria like the US does?

Madam if you don't understand sarcasm I can't help you.

1stGenAmerican:
Oh? Why wasn’t Buhari begging in front of the whole world Togo and China for help fighting against banditry and Boko Haram like he was begging the US?

You did not read where he went to togo to beg for help?