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madridguy:
Atleast still in Iran unlike Satanyahu who is always hiding in Greece.

Iran and Hama's really need you. You are always able to tell Netanyahu's position with great accuracy. Are you sure you are not an agent?

madridguy:
He will get another home later. The most important thing is that he is alive to witness the downfall of the aggressors.

Long life Ali Khamenei.

Make we dey look. I would love to remind you.

seunmsg:
Nigeria should be very worried. This is no longer looking good. Over 20million barrels of crude oil passes through that strait daily. Oil prices have soared in response. If this continues, crude oil will go out of reach and global economy will collapse. The price of PMS will go over N1000 very soon in Nigeria.

Not likely, petroleum prices will go up which should be good news for Nigeria but we know that Nigeria is not a normal country so let's not count on that
The west might be forced to remove embargo on Russian oil. Other countries like Canada and Venezuela would have to increase production.
This should be the biggest oil windfall for Nigeria in recent history. Let's hope we don't waste it.

WriterrNg:

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As long as you don't come here screaming #PrayforIsrael.

I am happy you feel very confident about this.
I would love to check on you in a weeks time after the death of your supreme leader is confirmed.

WriterrNg:

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Wetin stop you from joining US forces and deploying to Iran?

They don't need the Extra hand but Iran needs all the help it can get.

sonmvayina:
The stories are all allegories not actual history. We are meant to read it and learn the message they contain or teach.

That's your opinion. I can't argue with your opinion.
So according to you, Abraham never existed, Moses, Isaiah, Jesus Christ, Peter and Paul are not actual historic figures. I can't argue with an opinion.

Do you also think Alexander the great is not an actual person?

MT:
I will like to know why you agree that military conflict is the best approach. And I will like to understand your justification for a sovereign country to change regime in another sovereign country

Do you know the first thing the Iranian supreme leader did when he came to power? He kidnapped the entire members of the US embassy for over 400 days. That alone is an act of war.
In US war with Iraq, his government sponsored many groups that killed US soldiers. Then he continues to fund terror.
Let's not talk about the enrichment or uranium.
If you are the president of US, you will have to be foolish to allow this man continue to exist.
His time on earth has expired.

madridguy:
He will get another home later. The most important thing is that he is alive to witness the downfall of the aggressors.

Long life Ali Khamenei.

But he is dead nah

MT:
You should ask yourself why Iran supports Hezbollah, Hamas and Yemenis,

Somebody's hero is another person's villain

It is a form of leverage to see allies fighting alongside them when fight comes, just like the US and israel leverage on nuclear weapons.

Do you see anything bad in Israel possessing nuclear weapon? Be fair in your judgement instead of supporting the destruction of another country. Iran can't be destroyed, the govt can be changed but the same fate that bedevils Iraq and Libya will be their portion - hotbed of terrorism

Do not just accept the narratives of the westerners. Have you asked yourself why the UK distance themselves from this military adventurism.

It is not fair and just.

After all you have written, your point is that Israel and the US should not wage war on Iran bah?
I disagree with the West many things, for example, gay marriage but when it comes to fighting Iran, I completely agree with the US and Israel

Gerhards:
He’s trying to be half baked smart by using Taqqiya on you

I tell you

Iran only funds and supports terrorists that oppose Israel, eg Hezbollah and Hamas.

That's enough reason to destroy them. They are being attacked for supporting Hezbollah and Hamas.

MT:
Because majority of Nigerians who are supporting this military adventures by the US and Israel feel they are supporting Israel as a Christian nation

No, Israelis are not largely Christians, and they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. They only believe in the God of Isaac, Abraham and Moses as stated in the Torah.

I support Israel but I know Israel is not a Christian nation. I don't know where you are getting your stats about majority of Nigerians who are supporting this military adventures.

MT:
No one should make this about Islam and Christianity.

This is a violation of international treaty

I am a Christian but another government aiming to change the government in another sovereign nation is a no no.

I guess people always forget that Christians are the minority in Israel. There are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians.

Like I said, US government supported this Iranian government to take over power from the Shah government. Things turned sour between them and the US suddenly hates them.

I hate the Iranian govt with passion but US has a knack for attacking nations not doing their biddings.

You wrote
"I guess people always forget that Christians are the minority in Israel. There are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians."
Why do you feel this has anything to do with what is going on? Why did you feel it is important to tell us this?

FreeStuffsNG:
Just like the last war, Iran is not the aggressor.

Various international flights suspended, airspaces closed

Wizz Air suspends all flights to and from Israel, the UAE’s Dubai as well as Abu Dhabi and Jordan’s Amman with immediate effect until March 7

Lufthansa suspends Saturday and Sunday flights to and from Dubai, Tel Aviv, Lebanon’s Beirut and Oman’s Muscat

KLM cancels flights from Amsterdam to Tel Aviv
Oman Air suspends all flights to Iraq’s capital Baghdad

Russia suspends all flights to Iran and Israel
Kuwait suspends all flights to Iran until further notice

Iraq cancels all inbound and outbound flights, closing its airspace

Israel cancels all civilian flights, closing its airspace...

Tel Aviv residents report of GPS services malfunctioning following Israel-U.S. strikes in Iran.

Videos show smoke rising near US Navy facility in Bahrain: Videos geolocated by CNN show smoke rising from the direction of a US Navy base in Bahrain. The base was targeted by an Iranian missile attack a US official told CNN.

Iran confirms targeted sites in Gulf region
According to the Fars news agency, Iran has targeted:
Al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar
Al-Salem Air Base in Kuwait
Al-Dhafra Air Base in the UAE
The fifth US base in Bahrain

Loud explosion heard in Tehran.

At least one person killed in Abu Dhabi after UAE intercepts several Iranian missiles: Report
At least one person has been killed in Abu Dhabi, the United Arab Emirates, after several missiles launched from Iran were intercepted, according to the country’s state news agency.
UAE says “this attack is a flagrant violation of national sovereignty and international law”. It says “it reserves its full right to respond to this escalation”.

You dey fund terrorists still dey claim not the aggression.

Greenodds:
Nonsense both the US and Iran presidents are evil people ruining the lives of millions of good people.

And you think you are among the good people right?

madridguy:
Trump is just a stand up comedian

Iranian media publishes:

"In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful."

"Permission is given to those who are being fought because they have been wronged, and indeed Allah is Powerful to give them victory."

Trump Vs your Allah, my money is on Trump.
Are you willing to bet?

zinaunreal:
Useless old man. All this is just to cause a distraction from your evil in the Epstien files but this will be the most regrettable move you will ever make

Down to America
Down to isreal
Worshippers of Baal

I feel your pain.
The more the Epstein files are released, the more innocent it makes Trump.
But you are right, I am already distracted from the Epstein files

madridguy:
Trump is just a stand up comedian

Iranian media publishes:

"In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful."

"Permission is given to those who are being fought because they have been wronged, and indeed Allah is Powerful to give them victory."

I hope this continues to remain stand-up comedy to you. A week or two from today, I would love to know if you still find Trump funny

sonmvayina:
the author of the book of genesis just wove a story around a known fact.
we were told a thousand of those while growing up,
i was told why the tortoise shell is rough, i know if that story was in the bible too, you would believe it as fact...

So your argument is that every story you were told growing up is false? Anyway, that's not even the topic here.

Lojical1:
A this argument just to force a conclusion that the story of biblical curse on eve is true.

That would be a foolish argument to make with you.
I believe when you created this post, you were open to questions and discussion. Please don't be so defensive.

I only want to know how you came about your conclusions. Just present your timeline.

The argument that the first woman was not cursed, is your opinion and belief or is it rooted in science? That's what I am digging at.

I have no problem if it is just your opinion.

Lojical1:
And you expect me to take you serious. You just finished saying that i didn’t give any link yet you went ahead to do same thing you complain. The worst is that you now gave me a copy and paste work from an AI chat bot.

No problem, I will give you links so calm down.
Here are some peer reviewed papers

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35608876/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8835069/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Now it's up to you

Point is, painless labour is a thing even though the percentage is very small.

The human head is big no doubt but painless labour is a possibility. The question remain, when did labour pains begin? Was it before or after the curse.

Your argument is that it began before the curse and I am hoping that you can prove it showing timelines.

Your topics states
Childbirth Pain: Nature, Not A Curse
What if it is both?
How do I mean?
If there is a God, then He is the God or the creator of nature.

I just want you to show how you came to know that the first woman was not cursed to have pains at childbirth.

Lojical1:
Yes.
Childbirth pain is explained by two main factors:

1. Humans walk upright, which narrows the pelvis.
2. Humans have large brains, which means large baby heads.
This 2 combination makes birth mechanically difficult.

Key research:
¶ Rosenberg and Trevathan, “The Evolution of Human Birth,” Scientific American, 2002.

¶Dunsworth et al., Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 2012.

Fossils show early human already had pelvic structures consistent with difficult labor aeons ago, that predates the Genesis story by a very long time. So pain in childbirth is anatomical, not moral

Sir you realize that you did not provide links to the resources you mentioned.
Again do these resources show or state the date God cursed the woman. with the pain of labour? How did the above researchers figure out the day God cursed.
If you are saying that labour pain predates Moses receiving the revelation in Genesis, that's one thing but it seems you are saying something else.
Please the papers you mentioned, do they indicate the timeline of the curse so we can compare with the science of labour pains.

Also, I did some research and I would love you to explain these.

In a survey from France in 2021, about 25 % of women reported feeling no pain at the moment the baby’s head emerged, even without pain medication. This is a specific phase of labour, not the whole process.

In broader statistics (e.g., Australia 2020 data), about 20.5 % of women did not use any pain relief during labour — but not using pain relief doesn’t mean they felt no pain. Many still experienced pain, just without analgesia

Most studies on childbirth pain show that the overwhelming majority of women do feel significant pain at some point during labour unless effective pain relief (like epidural anesthesia) is used. One medical overview suggests that in places like France, about 98 % of women report moderate to severe pain during delivery.

What this means

Truly painless labour without any medical anesthesia is relatively uncommon.

Estimates of women who feel no pain at all at any point during childbirth (without analgesia) are likely well below 25 % and often much lower when considering the entire labor process, not just one moment.

Some women may experience reduced pain or very manageable sensations due to rapid labor, high pain tolerance, or physiological differences, but these cases are not the norm.

SpencerForbes:
I don't quite understand the outrage here. Is it now a crime for a man to seek verification? I thought DNA testing was supposed to be a standard procedure for peace of mind, so why the heavy backlash? If there's nothing to hide, the 'mob' shouldn't be this triggered by a simple request for accountability.

You may not know the back story here. A lot must have transpired before this. Maybe the man accused his wife of being unfaithful.

fineboynl:
hiv is lab creation to control countries especially Africans. The people living with the sickness are few. But the stats is over bloated. Those aid money are fir corrupt politicians

Please, when you say controversial stuff like this, learn to provide evidence. Verifiable evidence. I can, for example, claim that HIV came from the moon

fineboynl:
would the US give out their data to another country?

That's national risk. The Zim has already pulled out. China is not using esim technology because they are not the ones that developed it. Until they develop their own esim technology.

Any country using esim is using us tech.

No, the US will never do that because you can't pay them enough, but for a poor African country, treating HIV may be far more important than maintaining privacy. Health could easily be a bigger national risk than privacy, and if they can't afford health, trading their privacy for it may be a difficult but wise choice.

fineboynl:
Umm. Why the us need the datas of people living in Zimbabwe? What is about zims that they want to spy on?

It is simple, you either choose privacy or financial aid. You can't have both. Zimbabwe chose privacy. I have no problem with them or the US. Also, remember, each time you choose to use Facebook, X, Instagram, or TikTok, you are trading privacy for entertainment, communication, or business. So these decisions are not only made on a national level, but we also make them on individual levels.

FortCavazosKnox:
America is like the devil, gives with one hand and takes with two

And Zimbabwe is like a holy angel, right? Every country is after its own interest, and that is how it should be.

God1000:
Kudos to Zimbabwe

Africa doesn't need aid. We need equal partnership and alliances that are mutually beneficial.

It is too early to start praising Zimbabwe. Let us watch and see. I only hope that in years to come, we will not start blaming the US for a health crisis in Zimbabwe. Let us remember that it was their choice. And I agree with you, Africa doesn't need aid, but let's be honest, we can't demand equal partnership if we are not equal. In what world is a 30 trillion economy equal to a 52.3 billion economy? Again, I agree with you, there has to be mutually benefit and if the leaders of zimbabwe did not see any benefit in taking hundreds of millions from the US, they are free to reject it.

Lojical1:
For thousands of years, people have told women: “Childbirth is painful because of Eve’s sin.” The Bible says it. The story of Eden says it. But here’s the truth: it’s a myth. A story meant to explain something humans didn’t understand.

Pain in childbirth isn’t punishment. It’s biology.

Humans have big brains. Our babies’ heads are huge compared to our pelvis. Our pelvis is narrow to help us walk upright. The result? Labor is physically tough. Pain is inevitable. Every contraction, every strain, every scream., that is your body navigating a tight passage.

Animals feel pain during birth too. Cows, horses, lions, primates, they all experience it. If we say it is because of the curse on eve, does it mean that the animals also ate the forbidden fruit?

Pain is universal, not selective. It’s not about sin. It’s about survival. Pain triggers the body to release hormones, coordinate contractions, bond with the baby, and alert others for help. Pain saves lives.

The Eden story says women were cursed after eating a fruit. But research shows that painful labor existed long before any story of Eve. Upright posture, large heads, small birth canals, these are facts, not fables. There’s no “pre-Eden painless childbirth.” There’s only biology.

Understanding this changes everything: pain is natural. It’s functional. And we no longer have to attach guilt or moral judgment to it. Modern medicine exists not to “erase sin,” but to make birth safer and less excruciating.

Childbirth pain isn’t a curse. It’s the cost of being human. The Eden story is a myth. The truth? Biology made you strong, not guilty.

I love your write-up but I would love you to throw more light on something you wrote.
These were your words.
But research shows that painful labor existed long before any story of Eve.
Please, can you provide links to the research papers?
Thanks

The point is that Jews are safe in Arab land and any Arab Jew that return there have nothing to fear. The idea that they have anything to fear is unfounded. The reality that Arab Jews prefer Israel is also understandable.
This is a point blank like and I have asked you to provide evidence which you can't.
You said your evidence is that a few Jews still live in Arab land, then I reminded you that 50x more Arabs live in Israel so that evidence is meaningless.
You are saying that if I chase you from your community at gun point, you would have nothing to fear coming back? And your fears would be waved away as unfounded? That's very wicked.
I personally wouldn't trust or want to live amongst people who threw me out and took all I have unless I have very strong assurances that they have changed.

Palestinians say they want their land back while extremist Jews are trying to drive them off the remaining land they are still occupying. Why leave the Jews and blame only the Palestinians when everybody is just trying to get more?
The Jews position is not extreme, in fact, it is very rational.
Let me explain it.
1. The Arabs had a chance to have half of the land, the wanted the whole and went to war, they lost.
Still, they had Gaza and the West Bank, again in 1963, they went to war and lost. War have consequences. You don't go to war to claim land, loss the war and expect not to loss some of your land.
2. 800k to 900k Jews were kick out from Arab land and about 700k Arabs were kicked out of Israel. This alone settles everything. The Jews took in their refugees and gave them a better life, let the Arabs do the same. Remember, Arab land is almost 100x bigger than Israel so there is more than enough space.


Gaza is not an immigrant worker destination country that people do anything to enter. Countries that are far better off are not even that. Gaza before the destruction was only struggling
If you claim that Gaza before October 7th was struggling I wouldn't fault you. But relative to Nigeria, it was heaven.
In fact, let me give you another stat.
Before October 7th, less Palestinians died from the Israel/ Palestine conflict (1948-2023) than the number of Nigerians killed in the islamic conflicts since 2007.
So if they are struggling, what would you say about Nigeria?