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Afamed:
No be market to market economy we dey talk here. We are talking of serious business

No be 2metre square shop at Alaba we dey talk here.

No be Hero beer economy investment we dey talk here

No be next to nothing container economy we dey talk here

We are talking of $24B Dangote investment
We are talking of Eko Atlantic investment

Actually, there is much more poverty in Ogun than in Anambra so clearly, the huge IGR is not making any difference. Which is more important to you, high IGR or low poverty? Maybe you should stop over-taxing your people. You do not need a huge IGR you only need to use the little you have.

Superwave16320:
No Igbo will comment of this thread today

Awon eyan Obinomics Obipoverty

You are wrong. Having a big IGR is nothing to celebrate. The only important question is how you spend your money. Ogun has a super IGR, yet it has much more poverty than Anambra or Imo with very little IGR. The same goes for Kaduna. Clearly, your governors are over-taxing the people.

Belteshazzar1:
So na south east and south south dey feed nigeria.....
Mtcheeeeew.....

Actually, the oil-producing states feed Nigeria.

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=118765942]Something is wrong with you. Am I the one who spoke the words in the Bible? Assess or don't assess, is your business. I don't get you.



I believe that since it is known then there is no need to state it. Every verse in the bible is known so what is your point?


People prefer lies rather than Truth, therefore

People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them, but sip only little by little at a truth they find bitter. You are just describing the modern-day Nigerian Christian.

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=118764998]
And everyone has the ability to properly assess claims to draw out The Truth. So if you do not want to properly assess a claim, it is you who shall carry the consequences.
Oga we can only access your claim from the bible. You have shown that even you have no accessed your claim.


And I know that you have a different why other than the why that it these verses are very popular and everyone including you, know them. Even popular verses are quoted. There is no commandment against quoting popular verses. We were not told that we may only quote the unpopular verses.

People prefer lies rather than Truth, therefore

People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them, but sip only little by little at a truth they find bitter.
This is where we both agree. Most people love to be lied to and they are too lazy to find out the truth themselves. They are too lazy to read the bible so they just believe whatever the lying pastor says.

]The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable. You are quoting from people I don't know when you could simply quote from the bible. Oh I forgot, its wrong to quote popular verses.



You mean the mordern church goer and not "Christ like aka Christian. I mean modern churches have become Temples of lies and dishonesty. People teach their own doctrine and are afraid of the truth in the bible. These days, Christians are more content quoting from philosophers rather than quoting from the word of God.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you had a Bible then you do not read it else you would have seen that showed is the signs to look for. So all it takes is for people to use their eyes to see. And if you can not see, that is no one's concern.

Yes anyone can claim to see what doesn't exist. I noticed you are shy to quote a bible verse and we both know why.
The truth is that most people no longer read their bible that is why they can be deceived by the many false prophets out there.
As Christians, the only way we settle discuss is through the bible. For 2 days now, you have been making comment upon comment but nothing from the bible. The modern Christian clearly does not know the bible.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is like you do not have a Bible to see that God had revealed it.

Secondly it is not "any one" but a multitude have so confessed the phenomenom. Thus, you are the one who does not see or claims not to see that which is very obvious.

Actually I have a bible but you are free to quote.
Secondly, this is not the first time we are having a multitude of false prophets.

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible said if you are capable of seeing then you will see it. And it is not a Christians decided thing, it is that we have been tracking the changes such that we saw it when it began.

The point is that anyone can claim to see even what God had not revealed.
Too many fake prophets don't you think?

africandollar:
You're right, but I first saw the Nigerian roots story on Wikipedia, you know they keep editing these things...but what I read was his grandfather was a Yoruba man.

'Kylian’s father, Wilfred Mbappe, who has Cameroonian and Nigerian roots, was once a refuge, who migrated to France for greener pastures. According to reports, Wilfred in a bid to get a permanent stay got married to an Algerian-French lady Fayza, an ex-handball player.
Kylian was given a Yoruba middle name Adesanmi meaning “crown fits me” by Wilfred, who also adopted a son, Jirès Kembo Ekoko, a professional footballer of Congolese descent, but has a biological son and younger brother of Kylian named Adeyemi Mbappe, in recognition of his Nigerian roots.'

True they keep editing to give more accurate information. Maybe the old info was not verifiable.

femisplash:
It is actually true.

I got this from Wikipedia.
His father, Wilfried, is originally from Cameroon, and, as well as being Mbappé's agent, is a football coach, while his mother, Fayza Lamari, is of Algerian Kabyle origin and is a former handball player.

africandollar:
It's true...he has Yoruba heritage...check your Wiki

From Wikipedia,
His father, Wilfried, is originally from Cameroon, and, as well as being Mbappé's agent, is a football coach, while his mother, Fayza Lamari, is of Algerian Kabyle origin and is a former handball player.

femisplash:
I actually read that this Mbappe of a dude is of Yoruba stock and actually has a Yoruba name too.. His Dad is a mix of Nigerian and Cameroonian.

People write all kinds of things these days.

Chloraseptic:
Why are you saying it like white pussy is more special than other race's.

We are the ones with inferiority complex and racial tendency yet we always want to be seen as racism victims.

Must we bring up our philosophy even to a bad joke?

Chikeluba25:
Again

Anambra State Wins President's Inter-Secondary School Debate Championship.

God bless Anambra
Soludo is succeeding...

The problem with you political praise singers is that you keep confusing everything. Instead of you to praise the students, theirs school, their teachers or their parents, you decide to praise a politician who contributed very Little to this.
After politicians, political praise singers are the worst human beings

Dtruthspeaker:
It is as obvious as a girl who has lost her virginity.

My point is that some modern day Christians decided that these are the last days. As Christians we depend on revelations. We don't just decide on our own.

Nice

Dtruthspeaker:
The same way you know harmattan is coming or a football match would soon end.

Definitely not the same way. You know a football match would end because you know the duration of a match is 90 mins plus injury time.
You do not know the duration of the Earth's existence or do you?

Dtruthspeaker:
It is as obvious as a girl who has lost her virginity.

No. It's modern Christian who decided that this are the last days.
This is not the revelations of God.

Dtruthspeaker:
Correct!
Since you appreciate this, then you must appreciate that these last days are exactly like a football match. It only ends when the referee blows the end of the match but we all know that we are in the dying minutes of the game.

My point is how do you know that these are the last days?

Dtruthspeaker:
Is the end of a thing the same as last days of the thing? Is the end of a work the same as "you go soon retire?"

I am not sure I get your question but the last days mean 5hat the end is close.
The last days mean it is about to come to an end.
Example, if you say, "these are my last days in school." It means you are about to get to the end of your school.

Why do Christians love claiming that these are the last days when the Lord teaches that only our Father in Heaven knows when the end shall come.

Aemmyjah:
We were also told that the universe has a beginning. Science agrees with that
How do you dispute that claim when you were not there

I don't understand your question. The Bible also tells us there was a beginning. In fact, the first phrase in the bible is, 'In the Beginning.' Could you please make your question a bit clearer?

kerry57:
Leave it to Baba God to judge. I use my brain and the discerning of the spirit in church matters whenever I am to take a decision and leave judgement to God.

This have always been my guide since my knowledge of good and bad as a human.

It's better we talk about it and do all we can to save people from this scam. Churches have become schemes to enrich pastors while promising the congratulation of a wealth that never comes to pass.

Aemmyjah:
Personal conviction based on what?

Personal conviction does not need to even have a strong basic.
When I was younger, I was convinced that India beat Nigeria 100 -1 in a football match just because someone told me so.
For those who believe in a creator and even those who do not believe in a creator, all the needed was anyone or anything to convince them.

Aemmyjah:
Let's forget about religion, let's pretend there is no religion but use our brains and be fair

As to the origin of life, we all know that nothing can produce nothing, it is proven that life CANNOT be formed from nonlife
That logic has helped many to conclude that someone should be responsible for making all living forms, the universe with it's order and bodies and laws and regulations and mechanisms. Though no one has claimed to have seen such one on when he made all these, the evidence is so compelling that majority of people give credit to a higher power but people have different ideas and beliefs about who or what that One is

On the other hand, some believe that someone is not responsible. Some say so cos they don't believe in something they cannot see but they believe in gravity, mind, temperature, electricity, air, wind as if we can see them.
Others believe so cos they see that most books or myths as to the origin of life and the beginning of the universe is completely unscientific especially the Greek legends, Roman mythology and many others but one record stands out that they can't dispute but based on the other books, they hold onto it
Others believe so cos of the problems of life and the hypocrisy of those who claim to represent the One they say formed all life. Does that make sense to prove that one is not responsible for making life? They won't say that nobody made a knife cos someone or some people used it in stabbing others to death. If at the end of today, someone hijack a airplane and use it on suicide mission as we been hearing, will it make sense to believe that no one made that plane?
Others believe so cos there are different ideas and beliefs about the One who is responsible for life. Does that make sense? If I say, Mr A drew that painting, someone says it is Mr B, someone else says it is Mrs D, another says it is Miss Y. These are really confusing, all are not true but will you simply say that the art has no painter cos of these contrary opinions? Or because the person did not reveal himself to you.

Belief in a creator should not be stupid or gullible or cos you were taught in a religious centre. It must be out of personal conviction that you must be willing to defend
Belief in a no creator should likewise be intelligible, not cos you were taught at school or betrayed by religion. That religion is no compatible with science is actually a lie. The most renowned scientists of all times were actually religions people, some were monks and priests and they loved sciences.

Without any insults, what is your conviction that there is a Creator or that there is no Creator

See, no logic can prove their was a creator or not. It all about personal conviction and faith.
Everyone needs to find their beliefs. We can't argue the existence of a creator.

Golan007:
I said go through my posts.

If you have not read through my posts stop bothering me.

Oga that's not how it works.

omonnakoda:
Shut up
You are foolish

No, I am educated not foolish. Try some reading and your life would be a lot better.
Don't worry bro, I am going to teach you the concept of energy and gravity.
I would explain to you how much energy is required to move water 500 metres against gravity.

Golan007:
Read through my posts.

Oga I reacted to what I read. I have noticed that many of you clearly those that are a bit well off come online to condemn whenever you see animals being hunted. For many of you who are better than your neighbors, it's very easy to condemn. But for the 133 million Nigerians living in poverty, hunting is just another noble profession.

Golan007:
There's a difference when you kill to survive being killed.

No one would jail you if armed robbers came into your home and in defending yourself you killed one.

That's completely different from killing a random human being .

Come oh, are you talking about killing animals for food or killing human beings? There is nothing wrong with hunting oga. What we should do is have animal sanctuaries where these animals would be protected. Don't forget that even animals hunt each other. Hunting is just so natural.

Baroba:
The western part of Nigeria is so blessed with thick forest unlike the east. It's your heritage, preserve the animals and plants that live in it.

The other day it was a harmless civet cat, only God knows how many more were slaughtered that we hardly hear of.

Nigeria should introduce hunting seasons so animals are not killed when the are breeding.

First, solve the hunger problem. It's inhumane to tell a hungry man not to hunt. As much as I love animals, I care about humans a lot more. In Europe and America, hunting is a sport while in Africa, it is a necessity.

Pavore9:
Nigerians and bushmeat! Conservation is not in our dictionary! l give it to Kenya as you dare not try this in that Country as such animals na government pikin. Even if you see them destroying your property you still have no right to touch them, all you have to do is inform the Kenyan Wildlife Service and they come assess the damages and pay you compensation.

lt is only the Kenyan Wildlife Service that that have the right to kill such animals subject to their discretion. Kenya annually makes billions of dollars from wildlife conservation as TV stations like Discovery Channel, National Geography pay millions of dollars to shoot their wildlife documentaries here not to talk of regular tourists who fly in for safaris. l know if the maasai mara was in Nigeria the hundreds of thousand of the wild animals there would have ended up in our pots as bushmeat! When they migrate it is a beauty to behold, people fly in from all over the world to view it .One really need to experience their migration to really appreciate wildlife

Kenyans are taught from their primary school level that the wildlife is their national heritage and foreign exchange earner.

Do you really think they don't hunt in Kenya? Do you think Kenyans don't eat bush meat?

AreaFada2:
Unlike pigs that produce up to 20 piglets per litter, those beautiful antelopes rarely produce more than one or two per litter.

So they are really in serious danger of extinction. Unlike pigs/boar that eat lots of things, they are very picky herbivores and they need thick forests too.

With deforestation, the risk is compounded. Our grandkids may never see living ones if we don't stop killing them.

Chicken & catfish mass produced are becoming cheaper to buy now.

We need to preserve these animals for tourism when we run out of oil/gas.

Hunting is not the problem. All we need is to create reserves where hunting would not be allowed. Again everyone should not eat Chicken and catfish. It's crazy to dictate what another man must eat.