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[quote author=OkCornel post=118355344]Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God and not the Heavenly Father?

That’s the critical issue here.



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You did not answer my question but I would answer yours. He is definitely the Son of God. Our Heavenly Father is the father of our spirits.
But it's so clear to see that Jesus Christ is the creator.

Janosky:
Hebrews 1:2 God Created the universe THROUGH His Son.
Greek lexicon dia antou=THROUGH,(by means of) him.

Shalom.

Your Greek lexicon does not work here unless you are saying the world was created of him and that would mean something very different.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ bears some titles of God his Father.
Not every title.
This title at Deuteronomy 10:17 the God (ho Theos) of gods. It's exclusive to his Father ALONE.

We are not taking of titles. When the bible says the world was created by him, that is no title. When the bible calls him the beginning and the end, it's not a title. He is actually the beginning and the end.

Ken4Christ:
The church is not responsible for the security challenges but we have a role to play in the place of prayers and praises which we are taking lightly.

I don't think churches take prayers lightly. I don't know any church that goes without praying.

MrPresident1:
You are devious iti. dog

this boy you are rude oh but I would keep telling you the truth. You are a fake. You continue to add you false teachings to the word of God. You are a deceiver just like the devil your father.

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Coming from someone that can't speak a word of Hausa and has never left Osun state in his life.

MrPresident1:
Devious Iti, you are mad.

Fornication will ruin the temple of the body. One can get STI like HIV or Gono or clamydia or Staff

Adultery will drain you of your life force and then kill you

When iti and his masters are cleared away, there will be no more anything like adultery or fornication

Now you are writing your own fake scripture.
Adultery and fornication would do the same to you. They both give you sickness and kill you spiritualy. Stop being a fake

MrPresident1:
Beware of iti, itiboribo willbtake you to hell

Sleep with a married woman and lose all your life force. Lose all the glory and greatness and aisiki

Sleeping with a married woman is so deadly King Solomon, wiseset man ever liveth, dedicated three solid chapters in proverbs to warn you against it

Proverbs 6:32 KJV
But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

You are not very wise. All sins would take you to hell. All sins would destroy your soul. If you like, continue sleeping with single women and thinking it's ok.
The way you boys of today justify some sins and promote one sin over the other is just shocking.

cutecommend:
A Pastor said a guy slept with a married woman and lost his job the next day.

If you sleep with a married woman will it bring a curse? Let me tell you one thing. Curses are sometimes like seeds that grow into a tree. Do you know if you sleep with a married woman today, you may not feel anything or consequence until maybe 10 years later.

Sleeping with married women is dangerous. You may escape it, but your children may begin to experience some negative stuff.

If you have slept with a married woman, please stop it and repent.

All sins bring curse. Sleeping with a single woman is as sinful as sleeping with a married woman. The wages of sin is death.

OkCornel:
Another verse which is often interpreted out of context is John 10 v 30-33 where Jesus said “I and my Father are one”

Jesus was referring to Unity with the Father, not that he claimed to be the father.

For example in John 17 v 21-22, Jesus prayed for the unity of believers, that they may BE ONE just as he and the Father are one;

John 17 v 21-22
21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one

That doesn’t mean Paul is the same person as Peter just because Jesus prayed for the believers to be one.

Furthermore, another example is… when a man and his wife are “one flesh”, it doesn’t mean the husband is the same person as the wife.

This thing is basic understanding o. Don’t create unscriptural confusion out of your ignorance and label it a mystery.

Do you agree that the world was made by him?
Do you agree that he is the beginning and the end?

MrPresident1:
Isaiah 4:1
And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

This verse has been taken out of context because people did not realise that this verse is not talking about end times, it is talking about the aftermath of the return of Jesus, when Israel is redeemed, after the Day of Judgment. The key to this is in verse 4

Isaiah 4:4
When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Isaiah 1:27
Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

As you can see, when we relate Isaiah 4:4 with Isaiah 1:27 we can get an understanding of Isaiah 4:1. We can successfully locate the context of Isaiah 4:1 not as an end time verse but a post judgment, post rapture, post coming of Jesus verse.

The redemption of zion will be in judgment

The Lord earned against people like you who would add to the word of God. There in nothing like rapture Christianity. Stop introducing pagan worship into Christianity.

Janosky:
All of them just dey type GIBBERISH & quote scriptures taken out of context.
Trinity issa man made scam.

He did not take the scriptures out of context.
The bible clearly stated that the world was made by Jesus Christ. What other context do you want.
Question for you, who is the beginning and the end?

Janosky:
Your own Bible says NO !
Have you studied 1 Corinthians 8:6, God our Father created all things.
Hebrews 1:2 God created the Universe THROUGH His Son.
Matthew 11:25, Jesus Christ confirmed that his Father is the Creator.

Matthew 19:4-6, did Jesus Christ make them male and female and joined them in matrimony?


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The world was created by Jesus Christ. The bible clearly calls Jesus Christ God.

Ken4Christ:
I want to use this medium to stir up our hearts to intense prayers like never before. I have been having series of revelations on the doom that is targeted on Christians. It seems most Christians are taking it for granted that nothing of this nature will happen. If you have been monitoring the trends of events in the past few years, you will agree with me that Christians are not safe in this nation.

Our forest have been occupied by terrorists. They are kidnapping for ransom to get money to buy more arms which they will use to attack Christian communities all over Nigeria in unison.

The American government has raised an alarm but the power that be have swept such an alarm under the carpet.

Our church fathers and GOs of big ministries in Nigeria are sleeping also.

Don't get me wrong. I do know that prayers are been made by different groups for this country. But it is not enough.

Big ministries like RCCG, Winners Chapel, Deeper Life etc should be organizing all night prayer and praise services for Nigeria every week. They can draw out a schedule and put different chapters or parishes on duty for different weeks.

If possible, draw out a schedule for daily all night.

Every believer should begin to ask for mercy and God's intervention to avert this coming carefully planned genocide.

Please, don't take this warning for granted.

Arise and stand in gap for Nigeria every day. Pray like it depends on your prayer alone.

This is not the time to talk about denomination one belong to.

May God save us from these wicked and unreasonable people in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen

You say the church is sleeping. Is the church responsible for security. Vote wisely and save the nation.

Niklaus398:
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on Earth, visible and invisible, weather thrones or dominions or rulers or authority- all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things and in him all things hold together. Colossians 1:15-17.


Happy Sunday Guys, please I'll like to understand this verse.
Is this verse saying Jesus is the creator or what?


Muslims can contribute too.

It is clearly stated that he is the creator. It said all things were created by him.

Almost everyone on team BAT said they are voting because he is Yoruba.
It is so clear that Peter Obi would get more than 25% of the Yoruba votes.
He is the choice of the non tribalist Yorubas.

Aemmyjah:
Do you listen to news at all?
Especially UN reports and the COP27 summit on global climate change
Shame
When you were younger, tell me what you knew about terrorism. I never heard of book haram but now they are menacing and I do hear of iswap. Is the world getting better in how they deal with terrorism or worse?
Can you compare food prices now to that of 50 or hundred years ago? Then it was unpredictable that it would skyrocket like this
The floods, earthquakes and the rest we see worldwide are being described as unprecedented in history but thanks to technological advancement, they are easily detected but not PREVENTED
Tell me just one wonderful solution that has been coming from global climate change. The warning was first given around the 80s during the prevalence of tobacco but industrial pollutants, bush burning and fossil fuel has made it worse
What are nuclear weapons for? Decorations?

In my last post, I addressed the issues you raise and I linked you to the source of my data.
Please do good to read.
Now this is a little bonus for you.
If I remember correctly, you said in one if your posts that animals are going extinct.
Well that is not a new thing. Remember, we used to have Dinosaurs but they are no more.
In fasts some scientist believe that the number of lost species out number the current species.
In fast this is only the second time in human history that we are making any effort to save Earth's species.
The first time was with Noah and his ark.
The world keeps getting better. In the past no one cared about these animals but today biologist are doing everything to keep them alive.

Aemmyjah:
Do you listen to news at all?
Especially UN reports and the COP27 summit on global climate change
Shame
When you were younger, tell me what you knew about terrorism. I never heard of book haram but now they are menacing and I do hear of iswap. Is the world getting better in how they deal with terrorism or worse?
Can you compare food prices now to that of 50 or hundred years ago? Then it was unpredictable that it would skyrocket like this
The floods, earthquakes and the rest we see worldwide are being described as unprecedented in history but thanks to technological advancement, they are easily detected but not PREVENTED
Tell me just one wonderful solution that has been coming from global climate change. The warning was first given around the 80s during the prevalence of tobacco but industrial pollutants, bush burning and fossil fuel has made it worse
What are nuclear weapons for? Decorations?

I would not be talking out of my head but for every point I make, I would link you to sites for you personal research.

In summary,
1 There are wars and terrorism today but less deaths from war and terrorism than in the past. [url]https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace#:~:text=The%20absolute%20number%20of%20war,to%20be%20less%20than%20100%2C000[/url].
2. Food is costlier today but more people can afford good food that at anytime in the past. When was the last time you heard of hunger killing millions?
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/10/05/global-progress-in-reducing-extreme-poverty-grinds-to-a-halt
3. There is climate change and natural disasters but we are better able to cope than at any other time. Much less deaths from natural disasters than at any other time.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/23150467/natural-disaster-climate-change-early-warning-hurricane-wildfire
4. We have nuclear weapons but Nuclear weapons have brought many advantages to the world. They have actually made the world more peaceful.
Today nuclear powers are afraid to go to war against each other because they know it would not end well for any side.
If not for nuclear weapons, the cold war would have been the 3rd world war.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_peace#:~:text=Nuclear%20weapons%20may%20also%20lessen,causes%20of%20World%20War%20I[/url].

MaxInDHouse:
You lack wisdom {Hosea 4:6} but then you're also arrogant that's why i don't care what you think before giving you hot hot like àkàrà.

Have you heard of modern day slavery?

Well you will work and work and work but the benefits you won't enjoy. For your information that's why you're always arguing here and there on the politics section.

Ọmọ accept Christ as King and hope in God's Kingdom {Matthew 6:10} as long as man rules it's from slavery to slavery. Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

You are confused. We don't use the jw dictionary. We use the English dictionary and the bible so sorry the jw angle does not work here

MaxInDHouse:
"Hitler's slave" you say instead of talking about what is happening in your own generation and in your country are you not a slave in Nigeria now?

Ọmọ you'll always be a slave in the hands of politicians whether Hitler or Mussolini in any place as long as politics continue till God's Kingdom comes!

Again you want a new definition to slavery. I am not a slave. Ask the Jews in the concentration camps and you would appreciate your freedom.

MaxInDHouse:
So i can kill my neighbour for my neighbour shey?

That's what the allied forces did to bring peace to the world and to make sure we are not Hitler's slaves. You and all jw are enjoying that freedom today.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm a Christian and as in a student of the most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} if the words of my King "Christ" is not sufficient for you then there's no need for further arguments!

My Master, Lord and King said:

LOVE neighbours as myself! Mark 12:31
LOVE enemies! Matthew 5:43-48
LOVE fellow believers! John 13:34-35

He even thought me the best form of defence when he told his disciples that anytime soldiers invade their land they should look for means of escape {Luke 21:20-24} and as for picking up weapons in support of wars he reproved one of our brothers! Matthew 26:52

So if all these doesn't count to you then i can't help your ministry Sir!

If you love your neighbors then you should be prepared to fight to defend your neighbor

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the word "DEFENCE" but if you feel loosing all what you have including your life and the lives of your family is defence to you then i wish you luck!

You don't understand the word defense. Could you please quote the source of your definition or should we just take your lying word for it?

MaxInDHouse:
He is a JW and i don't think anything good can come from you who can't see reasons in PRACTICAL SENSE!

You guy is too backward. Unless he is ready to put in the work he would never grow

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Funmi Davies need you for stand up Nigeria comedy show!

Ok.

MaxInDHouse:
Analogy makes you the funniest commentator.

God is a man of war so you must go to war even when it's against your fellow believers!

God never to us the people to war against and those not to war against that is your addition to the world of God. If God is the Man of war, he can't be against war.

MaxInDHouse:
Why not settle the disparities between you and your fellow believers that's leading you into wars against them?

As Jehovah's Witnesses we don't need anything from killers who can't use their brains to settle issues apart from killing their neighbours!

The boy is just another educated guy who refuses to learn. All he needs is a little research but he is too lazy. Boys like that never grow.

MaxInDHouse:
We don't use dictionaries during battles what we use is our brains and it's to preserve, safeguard, protect lives not to destroy it due to stupidity!

You have never fought a battle how would you know? Even in battle, the meaning of defense does not change.

Aemmyjah:
You're quoting what you should applied on yourself... Even a blind dog will not say the world is getting better. The people trusted in improving human affairs which are the politicians, scientists and religious leaders are predicting and declaring a global catastrophe and you mention the world is getting better. We now have nuclear weapon, there is climate change and millions of animals are quickly getting into extinction, what about deforestation and desertification, droughts, terrorism, cybercrime and unemployment, inflation and disasters, food prices and shortages, expensive healthcare, etc.

Sorry, what global catastrophe was declared? Stop spreading fake news.
Since the invention of nuclear weapons, Fewer people have died from war.
Yes there is climate change and wonderful solutions are coming up every day. Just so you know, fewer people are dying from climate catastrophe than at any other time in history.
As for deforestation and desertification, droughts, terrorism, unemployment, inflation and disasters, food prices and shortages, these have always been around. There is less food shortage than at any other time on earth. Fewer people die from hunger than just 30 years ago.
As for health care, more people can afford proper health care than in time past which is why humans live longer than at any time in recorded history.
Oga it's clear you went to school, and you write very well but you are too lazy to make a little research that would better your life.
what kind of man are you?
If you have any article to show that things are worse than before, lets have it. But if you don't, we cant depend on your grandma's tales