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jumper524:
Nnamdi kanu called Nigeria and Nigerians zoo and monkeys, yet obi calls for his release

Peter obi calls for the release of a man who said no igbo Christian should attend yoruba church.
http://www.lailasblog.com/2017/06/igbo-person-attends-church-pastored-yoruba-man-slowpoke-nnamdi-kanu.html
Obi was very much aware of his wrong doings, he never cautioned him or said anything against him then but the same obi is calling for the release of a man who called us Nigerians monkeys.
Today obi is all over the west visiting every yoruba church and telling the church to take back its country. From who exactly? Tinubu wife who's a Yoruba pastor or from yoruba pastors and hand over to igbo pastors.

Nigerians use your head, I hate playing religious card but who would you rather believe if religious domination is your fear. A Muslim man who married a Christian woman, had zero issues with her religion, didn't impose his religion on his son or a Christian man who thinks catholics are the only true Christians and handed over schools built by other churches to catholic churches in anambra, a man who priotized catholics members ahead of other church members in employement heirachy?
My brother think again. Who is truly using you.

https://247ureports.com/2013/06/religious-tension-in-anambra-as-gov-obi-is-accused-of-handing-over-schools-built-by-other-faiths-and-communities-to-catholic/

Are you a child? Do you know that calling Nigeria a zoo is not an offence in our constitution?
What happened to good old freedom of speech.
Even your courts have asked that he be released.

Ttalk:
You should have asked instead if Oritshajafor is a Yoruba man.

I think individual should be allowed to declare his or her identity rather than chosen one for them.

We you call Dele Momodu a Yoruba person?

I know you really don't know that there is no tribe called Delta. The word Delta is actually English.
Delta state was named after the Niger delta.
It consists of various tribes.
Hope this helps you.

Ttalk:
You should have asked instead if Oritshajafor is a Yoruba man.

I think individual should be allowed to declare his or her identity rather than chosen one for them.

We you call Dele Momodu a Yoruba person?

I asked about Awolowo, is he a Yoruba man? Is Buhari a Fulani man?
Your point makes no sense. You are saying that we should wait for someone to tell his tribe first.
Is Davido a Yoruba man? I never heard him say he was Yoruba. The Alafin of Oyo is he Yoruba? Do you have any records of him claiming Yoruba?

Ttalk:
Let Iweala claim Igbo and not you assigning tribe to innocent woman, that's the greatest insult to a fellow human

What tribe did she tell you she was from? So if your parents are Yoruba, do I need you to come out and make a speech telling the whole world you are Yoruba?
You guys always say absurd things.
So let me ask you, is Obafemi Awolowo a Yoruba man? Do you have a record of him claiming to be Yoruba?

Ttalk:
But Igbo tradition doesn't recognise women gender, or has the practise changed?

What do you mean by that? You guys just type without asking questions. Do you think that it is men that give birth to babies in Igbo land? Or have you read it on any history book that Igbo's don't recognize women?
Study before saying the things you say.

Ttalk:
Deltan

Oga there are many tribes in Delta and Igbo is one of the 3 biggest.

edoairways:
There are deeper revelations and mysteries that you and others don't know. I was once like you unlike Jesus Christ delivered me

You are the typical Nairaland Christian. It's like all of you are in the same Whatsapp group. The moment someone disagrees with you guys, you begin to pull us unnecessary superiority stunts. If everyone starts the "I was once like you" stupidity, we would never have meaningful conversations

MrHighSea:
It should be used when semi-literates are in the building.

Don't blame me for your deficiency.

English na borrowed language abeg.

Clearly you are the only semi-literate here

Ken4Christ:
You are very correct. He got all prophecies right but the timing was wrong for the two I pointed out because of the church age.

It's just the way Daniel saw the 70 weeks of end time events. Daniel also didn't see the church age.

The prophecies up to the 69th week has been fulfilled. But the last week is interrupted because of the church age.

What do you mean?

MrHighSea:
Smarty reading without comprehension, already ranting. Go study Figure of Speech and pay close attention to Irony.

You clearly don't understand how and when to use an irony.

edoairways:
The word of God that you select to suit you? Smh

You can select the word of the Lord to suit you.
As long as Jesus Christ does not lie or bear false witness and everything he did was given to him by the Father.
Clearly, you are wrong.
And it's ok to be wrong, no one is perfect.

Superwave16320:
He is is not a small pikin but a foolish soul that wish is foolishness n Igbo bigotry becomes reality.

Congratulations oga. You are the first to bring up tribalism in this thread.
You guys never rest.
No matter the topic, you must bring up your tribal insults. Keep it up.

Ken4Christ:
I understand the angle you are coming from. But you also know false prophets by their fruits. And Jesus doesn't fit into that category.

In addition, false Prophet lie deliberately and usually get the source of their power from strange gods. Our Lord Jesus also doesn't fit into that category.

It's like you don't understand prophecy.
Prophecy is not about saying anything that comes to your mind. It is about saying what has been revealed to you.
Prophecy is not guess work. It is more accurate than mathematics.
Jesus Christ will not reveal something that was not given him by the Father.
All of Jesus Christ prophecies are 100% accurate.
Jesus Christ said, I came not to do my will but the will of the Father. Do you really think he would give prophecies independent of the Father's will?

MrHighSea:
Even America is owing.

Debt is not bad as it was used to lift Nigerians out of poverty, procure weapons to subdue insurgents and improve agro production.

One day, China will zip-line into Asovilla in ninja style and arrest whoever is the president, compel us to speak mandarin and pay huge tax in yuan.

It might be what we need to vote without tribe, religion and party.

You are not very smart and I would tell you why.
You claim the debts pull Nigeria from poverty but in reality, we have become the poverty capital of the world.
Then you talk about procuring weapons. Before the debt, we had security problems mainly in the NE but after buying the weapons we now have security issues in the NW, NE, and SE.
Finally on Agriculture, food is getting many times more expensive.
We just wasted billions and now we can't pay back.

edoairways:
Sidon dey deceive yourself. Experience is a great lesson, no need to argue with you

So your so called experience supercedes the word of God?
If your experience is counter to the scripture then be sure that it is false.
You guys really need to give up these false African beliefs.

Ken4Christ:
God forbid me to call Jesus a liar. He never lied. Those two prophecies failed because of the present church age which was a mystery at that time.

Every false prophet is a lier. And there are no excuses for a false prophet.
Jesus prophecies never fail. If Jesus Christ never said something he wasn't sure of.

Oloki:
Human inhumanity to his fellow man. We keep shouting, it is the government, but an average Nigeria is a fraudster, ready to ripe off his fellow man

You just wrote nonsense.

yinkbell:
I know the angle you are talking from sir.
If anyone is in Christ, all that belongs to Christ also belongs to him. Christ is our head and we are members of His BODY

His blood is potent to deal with all sins and curses but how does his blood cleanses us from all sins? It is through faith by prayers.

Let me give you an analogy here;
If a man fall sick (terminal illness) before he believes in Christ, after receiving Christ, he may still not be healed except First Peter 2: 24 is revealed to him, he can only appropriate this blessings through prayers. (James 5: 14-15).
Book of James chapter 5: 14-15 is talking about believer in Christ who fell sick; possibly, this may come as a result of sins or negligence to the law of health.

There are some things that rub on us before we are in Christ and also after we have received Christ. All these can be annulled through prayers and word of God.
When you are born again, it is your spirit man that is recreated, it doesn't affect your soul or your physical body.
That's why Bible says we must always renew our minds with the word of God.

A guy just sited an example of a man whose family members never reached the age of forty years. The moment the man gave his life to Christ, the curse does not break automatically, he did something about it. He held on to Galatians 3:13 and enforce his victory in Christ through prayers.

Everything Christ did for us are not authomatic, we are to enforce it through faith in prayers and word of God.

There are always objective truth and subjective truth to the finished work of Christ.

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Your analogy does not work here and I will tell you why.
Sickness is not the same as having a spiritual curse. Drugs can fix a sickness if it is not a spiritual. But no spiritual curse can dwell in anyone that has the spirit of God.
And if the sickness is spiritual, as soon as you become born again, it is over.
Do you remember the man Jesus Christ heal simply by saying "your sins are forgiven"?
Once the Savoir forgives, all curses are done with.

edoairways:
Ignorance is a disease . Satan dwell on your ignorance to deceive you

I knew you would finally go this way. Oga read your scripture. Stop being proud.

When you are born again, you are washed by the blood of Christ. It washes away all your curses.

danowena:
i was discussing with a friend recently how many people don't know the difference between work and grace. The concept of grace is so simple that it confuses even the "very serious born-agains". They want to work and mix it with "a little grace" (in their mind) then call it Grace. Romans 11:6.
Grace means receiving an unearned gift. It is always given and never paid for. The idea that a person's work—such as keeping the law—could in some way contribute to receiving God's grace is a self-contradicting idea. If that were possible, grace would not be grace.
Many don't grasp that the blood of Jesus that makes you born-again is all encompassing at it breaks all chains of darkness whether curses (generational or self, repercussions for sins, etc). It cleanses completely and not partially. It is sad that some big time churches especially the deliverance ministries seems to preach that the blood of Jesus is not enough.

God bless you.

MikeofAfrica:
My brother, you are still a kid on Spiritual issues.

Do you think that the hurricanes that has been causing havoc in the United States and her neighbouring nations are ordinary. Do you know the Spiritual steps the United States has taken against the hurricane without getting much results?

Is it not the same Alantic Ocean that surrounds Africa that is located in the America. Why is the Ocean so calm in Africa but violent in North America.

Is that not a consequence of anceatral curse against the nations in North America? Note that the Pacific Ocean also surround America but has not cause any havoc because this curse was as a result of an abomination carried out in the Atlantic ocean.

You need to seek spiritual knowledge because the world is very deep.

If you want to have a discussion we would talk but if you are the type that come online to belittle those that disagree with you then have a nice day.

Cloud007:
being Born again is accepting Jesus as Lord and personal Savior. That acceptance is a process. It's not by mouth. The declaration is the first step and work in progress began. It is now left for you to remain at the declaration state or you further the process by allowing the Holy Spirit takes over to de-escalate all what is not of God.

Even natural birth takes 9 month.... The Holy Spirit takes over and nurture what is inside you for the appointed time for pangs and travail. The Kingdom of God suffer violence and the violence takes it by force. Then birth happens. Entering thereafter into the kingdom of God is another topic entirely.

This generation believes when they declear..then they are fine. Reason most people will not make heaven cos they are like seed that fell on the rock. Reason why Jesus didn't know a lot of people that profess themselves to be christians. Lukewarm seeds! They fornicates, lies, kill, backbite,slander and still lift filthy hands in a dead church or assembly to Satan thinking it's Jesus. Jesus will spit you out.

The God that I serve is a God of process and legal ground. Ask Adam why it was easy for him to rebel. He never went through the process.

Their is a lot to talk about but definitely not here.

Peace.

We all know that being born again takes some time but the point remains that once you become born again, you can't be talking about ancestral curses. It's that simple.
Please read you bible and repent from your false traditions.

Cloud007:
Funny.... When do know the Blood of the sprinkling actually works for you until you ask. When do you know if God has actually forgives and judgment has been passed in your favor. Is it not when demonic curses and patterns stops?

This generation believes repenting and being Born Again is instant. Its a process that and reversal of curses, convenant are part of the process.

When the blood of Jesus is known as the most valuable currency for exchange in the spirit realm. What are you exchange for? Is like you are thinking when you are born again...you can't be attacked.

Grow out of been a baby christian if you are and understand the workings spiritual realm.

Your accuser accuse you day and night. Don't seat down assuming you don't have work to do.

Peace

Oga when last did you read your bible?

When you are born again you are automatically washed by the blood. You don't need to ask for it again. It comes with the package.

Please read.
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

When you become born again, the blood of Christ would automatically wash you clean.
If one claims to be born again but has not been washed by the blood, the person is joking.
Stop mixing your fetish beliefs with Christianity.

TenQ:
Just quote me properly, we'll both see the context!

Don't take it personal. Your malaria example was not good enough.

CSTRR:
Sorry, being born again is not the end all.

It is the start of your deliverance.

I asked you a question with biblical references.

Will being born again prevent you from getting very angry.?

If you are a very violent person, and you get born again right now.
Will that anger suddenly disappear immediately?

What are you saying? You mean some one who has been washed by the blood of Christ has not been delivered enough. Are you saying that his blood is not sufficient? Are you a Christian or what?

Cloud007:
Funny.... When do know the Blood of the sprinkling actually works for you until you ask. When do you know if God has actually forgives and judgment has been passed in your favor. Is it not when demonic curses and patterns stops?

This generation believes repenting and being Born Again is instant. Its a process that and reversal of curses, convenant are part of the process.

When the blood of Jesus is known as the most valuable currency for exchange in the spirit realm. What are you exchange for? Is like you are thinking when you are born again...you can't be attacked.

Grow out of been a baby christian if you are and understand the workings spiritual realm.

Your accuser accuse you day and night. Don't seat down assuming you don't have work to do.

Peace

Oga what does it mean to be a born again? Can you be a born again if you have not been washed in his blood? You can't be a born again and retain any curse.

MyAmericandream:
Blood of Christ ke? Don’t even go there do you know what the blood of Christ has done for me and is still doing ? My prayer is incomplete without the blood of Jesus. Please, don’t misquote me ntori Olorun.

As a good Christian you must know how to pray and fast. Is not all about quoting Bible (though it is one of the ingredients for spiritual warfare). And stop looking for shortcut to break free. I don try am before e no work until I incorporated F&P.

Me and God they yarn like pal steadily on a daily basis because how I devoted my time in p&f. That’s why I’m telling you the fastest way to break free from curses is by intense prayer. You think say to be Christian na Moimoi. It’s only a lazy Christian that depends on Bible quotes to survive.

We’re from Africa, Oga use your brain.

You are mixing the pagan beliefs of your father's with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

MyAmericandream:
I would have love to buttress further on this subject.
But I just realize you lack spiritual intelligence…
FYI , I’m a practicing CHRISTIAN. I don’t have to go church every Sunday or attend bible study or how to quote the Bible from genesis to revelation to prove myself.

Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not. Jeremiah 33

By the time God open your reveal things about you. You go shock!

Lol,
Once you guys get caught in your lies you begin to claim a fake spiritual superiority.
You claim I am spiritualy unintelligent yet you are the one who believes that the blood of Christ is not strong enough to wash away curses.
Funny.

Chi133:
Forget that,let me tell you,I know of a family made of bishops, none of the male child has given birth. I have seen different cases.

First being a bishop doesn't mean you are born again.
Also your story does not have to be an ancestral curse. It could be medical. Please believe in Christ and stop believing the false traditions of your father's.
Do you believe that the bishops in your story have received Christ, they have been washed in his blood yet his blood can't wash away their ancestral curses? Funny.

Eriokanmi:
You know what? Let's not argue any further. Do me a favour please. Call your pastor or meet with him anytime you have the time. Ask him...in spite of being born again, can one still be haunted by generational curses? Happy Sunday

Oga that's the problem. Many of you listen to pastors rather than the word of God.
You realize that there are many fake pastors right?
Any pastor that teaches you that the blood of Christ cannot wash away ancestral curses is of the devil.

Aemmyjah:
Do you listen to news at all?
Especially UN reports and the COP27 summit on global climate change
Shame
When you were younger, tell me what you knew about terrorism. I never heard of book haram but now they are menacing and I do hear of iswap. Is the world getting better in how they deal with terrorism or worse?
Can you compare food prices now to that of 50 or hundred years ago? Then it was unpredictable that it would skyrocket like this
The floods, earthquakes and the rest we see worldwide are being described as unprecedented in history but thanks to technological advancement, they are easily detected but not PREVENTED
Tell me just one wonderful solution that has been coming from global climate change. The warning was first given around the 80s during the prevalence of tobacco but industrial pollutants, bush burning and fossil fuel has made it worse
What are nuclear weapons for? Decorations?

Bro I remember you from time to time. So I am again sending you a short video to help you learn. The world is getting much better than in the past.
https://youtu.be/hxlunzojPcs
Happy viewing.

MyAmericandream:
I’m talking from my own personal experience. It was prayer that set me free coupled with the passages you listed above… Family curses no dey hear all these. Do you want us to switch to spiritual warfare?

Oga if you believe that ancestral curses can withstand the blood of Christ then I need to ask if you are truly a Christian.