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REDshouse:
And Obi will return fuel price back to 87Naira per litre... you all joking ...

Even before we discuss a replacement for APC, let's first agree as a people that APC has failed us and let us together agree never to return to our vomit. After that, we would now discuss Obi and if he is the man for the job.

normaljenny:
Na this kind post Dey bring wahala sha. Abeg bro delete this post.

Oga this is educative and he is only using his freedom of expression. But then if these a lies, it's wrong to post such.

God1000:
This joke is bad and unforgivable, it is character assassination

As you cant forgive go and arrest him.

Addme:
This was your question below



Can you tell us when that rally was held?

Oga Gboko rally was yesterday. Please go and confirm.

MaxInDHouse:
It's not only the sex organs that makes gender difference but attributes, when God said "let US make MAN in our own image" {Genesis 1:26} Please tell me what else if not sex organs, I am listening. Your bible said In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
So clearly when God said let us make man, he was referring to male and Female. Let me explain it to you with Lion. The name Lion represents the Creature both male and female but it also represents specifically the male.
it's obvious that all those in the spirit realms have the masculine attributes otherwise the consistency won't be there and have you noticed that throughout the creation period only males were recorded except when females do anything noteworthy? The sex of spirit is never indicated in your bible. What do you mean by only males where recorded during the creation period.
Jacob had 12 sons if not what happened to Dinah you won't believe Jacob had daughters. What does this have to do with male spirits was Jacob also a spirit.
So humble yourself and learn all the angels with the Almighty God have masculine attributes that's why women were created as a compliment for man because he is flesh not a spirit! Genesis 2:19 I would not learn from someone who assumes. Let's agree that women were created in complement to men, how does that push your male spirit theory? Your arguments of Jacob and women being a complement to men do not make angels masculine.

Just the same way Satan possesed the serpent and demons possessed people they can also form and possess bodies through the dust of the earth before the destruction of Noah's generation! Satan coming in form of a serpent is well recorded in the bible, please tell me where the angel possession is recorded.

I know you're empty only arguing blindly but i will tell you:

It's to wash away the type of dust God used to create fleshy bodies for both humans and animals so that those fallen angels won't have such opportunities again after the deluge, that why we have desserts today in many places those are the place where the type of dust God used to form bodies for flesh creatures were gotten. So after the global deluge both the garden of Eden and the dust were washed away.

Go and teach your church members, it's the wisdom you can't get elsewhere!

I don't care what you think as long as it's not in God's revealed word. Again, if God's wanted to wash out dust, there would have been no need to kill off all humans and animals. Also, the special dust was not washed off the face of the earth. After the water receded, the dust would remain on the earth. But let's not distract ourselves with this new topic.

Addme:
Hope you saw this on the front page...

https://www.nairaland.com/7374599/residents-gboko-benue-state-holds#117420501

So what do you have to say?

You are showing me an Obi rally, are you now an Obi supporter? I guess this wasn't what you intended sending?

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=117418148]Those angels were present when God created Adam in [b]THEIR likeness {Genesis 1:26} [/b] You assume it was angels the bible never said so
and according to the Bible Eve was created later {Genesis 2:21-22} so the angels who love to enjoy sex that they never experienced since they're all the same gender (males) You claim angels are spirits, not men. Do you even understand the meaning of gender? without physical reproductive parts, you can't say the angels had any gender. So basically, you are saying that angels are not spirits, they have sex organs and they have sex.
decided to mold fine bodies for themselves from the dust of the earth just as God did with Adam but since they don't possess the power to make it live they possessed the bodies themselves and became handsome young and vibrant men highly intelligent that all the ladies back then can't resist! Genesis 6:2 The bible never wrote any of these why assume? When did the bible say that angels decided to mold bodies? When did the bible teach that angels possessed bodies? Your religion is a religion of assumptions. This is not Christianity.


[b]But to prove that you don't understand God's word please can you tell this forum why God decided to wipe out the earth back then yet evil has continued till today? [/b]This is a distraction and should be a different topic. If you want to discuss the flood create a different thread.

ElSudani:
Don't mind these folks. Obi cannot win against Oluomo in Lagos not to mention Tinubu.

You really think Lagos is controlled by touts.
On just one day, 4 different rallies for Obi in Lagos. Each with a bigger crowd that the Tinubu rally.

MaxInDHouse:
Because there's nothing wrong in men marrying women so the sons of God mentioned @ Genesis 6:1-5 can't be humans since it's God's will that men and women should get married and multiply! Genesis 1:28

So those sons of God aren't humans!

First, in Genesis 6, the bible never indicated that marriage was a sin.
Secondly, I gave you an example of Solomon a son of God; God was not pleased with his marrying unbelievers.
Thirdly, You say angels are spirits, You can't touch a spirit. Spirits don't have sex. Cant, you see how wrong you are?
Fourthly, you continue to assume and not depend on the revealed word
Fifth, Jesus is the son of God, is he also an Angel? If he is a son of God and not an Angel, then Your claim then there could be other sons of God who are not angels. so the idea that if God was not referring to man, he must be referring to angels is incorrect.
So you are wrong, the statement could have been 100% about man

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=117415551]All humans are sons and daughters of God because we were created in His image, Agreed we are his Sons and daughters so you shouldn't have an issue with the sons of God part.
But then, we also have John1.12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Hence in a very different sense, believers are sons of God.
the only difference here is adoption: God adopted some imperfect humans due to the goals they set for themselves.
So there's no daughter born to spirits all the women on this planet are daughters of men! I don't understand your statement. If all women on this planet are daughters of men then why do you have a problem believing that the sons of God (Men) slept with the daughter of Men?

MaxInDHouse:
Just as God called Adam His Son {Luke 3:38} and Adam married to Eve with whom they had children both males and females {Genesis 5:4-5} so where did God say there are daughters who aren't born to men {Genesis 6:1} whom the sons of God later married?

Sir I am not getting your question. I never said there are daughters born to spirit. Please make your question clear.
Do you agree with the bible that Solomon is the son of God?

MaxInDHouse:
There has never been any sons of God after Adam's disobedience who shouldn't have sex with female humans, your interpretation of Solomon marrying pagan females as daughters of men is a confirmed assumption because God never referred to any female as daughters of God so where is it written in the scriptures that there are some females who are daughters of God not to be married by sons of men or vice versa?

Do you have any scripture that says there has never been any son of God after Adam or are you assuming again.
In Solomon's case I did not assume. God himself called him his son or do you want me to show you the verse?

Nairaland Yorubas are different form twitter Yorubas..

anonymous1759:
Better leader indeed . I’ve lived in Anambra and Lagos I can spot the difference.
I’m 100% sure if another parameter is used to judge both governments that favors BAT or FASH over Obi you’ll discredit it . Let election come and go so everyone will rest . BAT and FASH are not in the same class as Obi In terms of Governance. Was Obi among the 5 best governors during is Tenure ? I doubt that .

what parameters would us prefer? No one doubts that Lagos is more the developed than Anambra. The question is, in what state did Tinubu meet Lagos and where did he take it and how did Obi meet Anambra and where did he take it to?

anonymous1759:
Exactly o Anambrians that voted for Obi are living in affluence with their kids that’s why they troop in to Lagos to make a living .

U have the data

BluntTheApostle:
Being dubious is not academic at all. Sharing a clickable link will take us straight to the academic paper, which is what every sensible OP does. It is not the responsibility of the reader to start sifting through hundreds of posts. You didn't even include a specific title.

If you want to promote Obi, you have to do so with confidence, not playing dirty with data.

No be only una sabi play dirty politics.

While I continue to tell you that Nairaland is not an academic institute. You are only being lazy. You know the source of the data. It beholds you to do your due diligence.

MaxInDHouse:
At least He was talking to someone or some people and since Jesus referred to Him as a (one) spirit then He must have children and they're the children shouting in applause back then when He created the earth! Job 38:7

You keep talking about assumptions yet you've made lots and lots of assumptions here!

You lie. I have never in my discussion with you since the first day we ever argued made a single assumption about the revealed word.
Please prove me wrong.
Christianity is based on revealed truth. When we choose to replace the revealed word with our human assumptions, we fall into apostasy.
When God has not revealed on a particular matter, as his children, we wait on the Lord. We do not make up stories of angles having sex with women. These your stories make Christianity a joke and they only create more unanswered questions.

MaxInDHouse:
And He could have been talking to many other spirit beings as well!

As I said, your entire believe system is based on assuming and not the revealed word. Has God revealed who he was speaking to?

BluntTheApostle:
Share a link.

Tonyebacanista made a post of how badly Anambra fared in providing viable business environment under Peter Obi, and he posted a link where we were able to read at least the abstract of the study to see all the aspects that were considered in the study, and methods used to arrive at that conclusion.

Let us see your own link.

The source of the article was posted. Oga do your due diligence

MaxInDHouse:
Well God was talking to some people or someone @ Genesis 1:26 and no human has been created by then so He must be talking to His PRIMARY CHILDREN before creating humans (SECONDARY CHILDREN) in their image!

Stop assuming. He could have been talking to Jesus Christ. Your religion is based on assumptions. You assume he was talking to primary children. You assume angels means sons of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Well God was talking to some people or someone @ Genesis 1:26 and no human has been created by then so He must be talking to His PRIMARY CHILDREN before creating humans (SECONDARY CHILDREN) in their image!

Stop assuming. He could have been talking to Jesus Christ

MaxInDHouse:
Well God was talking to some people or someone @ Genesis 1:26 and no human has been created by then so He must be talking to His PRIMARY CHILDREN before creating humans (SECONDARY CHILDREN) in their image!

Like I said you are assuming. He could have been talking to Jesus Christ.

BluntTheApostle:
Then, why did you bring an incomplete data here for us to debate.

That is being clever by half.

How did the researcher get such data as health index and income index? How many workers were sampled, and in what regions?

I brought in a super complete data. You are allowed to counter the data. You are very educated, you know how to get info. Would you want to mail the researchers and ask for their methods?

BluntTheApostle:
Or, so without a reason why the data is needed, you can just include it in your work.

How great!!!

I am not asking him to put a reference list, but to include the tools used, and the conclusions made.

Researchers are always advised to include these things in their papers so as not to create misunderstandings.

There was a research which showed that women are more happy in marriages than men.

But not to create a misunderstanding, the researcher added a disclaimer that they didn't consider state of mind of participants before administrating questionnaires. It could be that those that answered no were presently not happy. It doesn't mean they are always unhappy.

If I used this result in my research without the disclaimer, I will be doing an injustice to my readers.

Oga do you realize that this is Nairaland and not an academic journal?
You are free to add more light to the topic but you seem to be saying that you want me to do the research for you and that is laziness.

MaxInDHouse:
Then God said: “Let us make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness" Genesis 1:26

If God said this to someone then it means He has PRIMARY children and Adam happens to be a SECONDARY Son of God! Luke 3:38

It does not mean he has primary children. It could mean a thousand different things. Stop assuming.
Luke 3.38 did not call Adam a secondary son of God.

Olojuobinrin:
I don’t disagree with you on that , all of us can’t vote for the same candidate or party, just the same way the igbos or the Hausa will not vote just one candidate, we all have a choice, but my point is , Yoruba is not divided into Muslims and Christians, there’s nothing like that in Yorubaland , religions doesn’t divide us ! We’re one Yoruba and we speak in one accord .

I agree with all you said except the last statement. The Yorubas are I are very intelligent, they have different political views.
I have met those who support a Yoruba nation. I have met Tinubu supporters. I have met Peter Obi supporters all among Yorubas.
Yorubas are not robots. They do not share the same political opinion.

BluntTheApostle:
You don't cite data in isolation.

If you are citing something, you have to ensure that the major information you are trying to pass across are captured. That is why we have paraphrasing.

You can't lift an image from somewhere, read your own meaning into it, and then expect your readers to go and find the significance by themselves.

Citations are for two major reasons:

1. Let the reader know that the idea is from somewhere else.

2. Then in the reference list, to provide the reader with further reading.

Actually, you can site a data in isolation. It's up to a reader to discover other sources to create a balanced opinion.
It's now over 24 hrs, I believe by now you must have come up with counter data to show Tinubu was the better governor. Pls give me your info because I am ready to change my mind.
And do you really expect a reference list on a Nairaland post? Bros Nairaland is not an academic journal or a university project.

Olojuobinrin:
Listen everyone has a choice to support whoever they want , but stop saying Yoruba Christians or Yoruba Muslims it doesn’t exist in our land , most people don’t even know the religion of their present governors in Yorubaland, we don’t care about your religion, we just vote who can do the job. We’re not divided because of religion so stop trying to come up With that narrative, it doesn’t exist in our land !! That’s all in trying to tell you.

You are not answering my question. No one is attempting to divide the Yoruba nation. We are only telling you that all Yorubas do not and should not vote the same way. All Yorubas do not support the same party.

Olojuobinrin:
There’s nothing like Yoruba Muslims or Yoruba Christians, Muric doesn’t speak for us in Yorubaland!! We didn’t choose Akintola as our spokesperson! Muric is an organization registered by a human right activist, he doesn’t represent the yorubas !!! We don’t give a shit about him or whatever he says , he doesn’t speak for us ! Yoruba is not divided and religion is not going to cause division between us , it has never been so and will never be ! You’re the people causing an imaginary division online because you don’t know anything about us , you all shout about Yoruba Muslims and Yoruba Christians, but failed to forget there are Muslims in Igbo land too yet we never categorize you as Igbo Muslims or Christians!

I have met a good number of Yoruba Christians who are against a Muslim/Muslim ticket. What do you say to such people.

MaxInDHouse:
To you it is conflicting but to us both mean exactly the same thing:
"Powerful and highly intelligent spirit beings" and since God is also a spirit as in the most intelligent and Almighty {John 4:24} surely they are His (PRIMARY) children.
So you are the one getting things wrong here!

Yea, you can say bread and house mean the same. It's your opinion. You have not shown any bible verse that equates angels to the sons of God. You have only shown 2 different translations telling a different story.
Then again the bible never said God has primary children or secondary kids. Do you even believe in the bible?

Jesusloveyou:
the data show how your children will die of hunger because Obidient will save money that suppose to be use for development.
Is US not the most indebted country and the same time, the most developed country

If you u really think debt is the source of US development then you are a fool.
Again you got it twisted. If you don't save for the future you are killing the children.
You don't even need to go to the US to find out how debt can destroy a nation.
Buhari has taken up more debt than any leader in the history of Nigeria, how has that played out?

M4A1carbine:
Osibanjo was insulted and harassed by his fellow Yoruba Muslim brothers.

MURIC Stated that they will not support a Yoruba candidate.

Yoruba Muslims have constantly ..PUT their religious beliefs above their tribe.

So why denying what is obvious...even to you??

Stop hallucinating ....the only thing unifying Yorubaland , is your hate for others!!

Please teach them