₦airaland Forum

VTJN:
I'm a Christian from the south south region

You need to know something about the Yorubas. They are the most liberal and accommodating tribe in Nigeria. There's nothing like Yoruba Muslim or Yoruba Christians in Yoruba land o

Go to each family in Yoruba you'd be surprised to have both religion mixed together

They may have their shortcomings no doubt but they are very tolerance and accommodating

You can't use religion to divide them sincerely

They have both religion as family members, friends, neighbours et al and they live as one

I am sure I never spoke about the Yoruba or caused disunity among them. Are you sure you are on the right thread?

elated177:
Where can one find what you said in the Scriptures?

What did I say? I have said many things, which do you mean?

Olojuobinrin:
Boasting? You can’t even stand me one on one ! I don’t boast ! Under 15? Yeah I’m actually under 10 just so you know ! Ode jatijati!

You actually think that the aim here is to stand you or to fight you. That's not what we come to do on Nairaland. You really are a child and a dull one at that.

Olojuobinrin:
Okay one thing is I don’t know how to fight and I’m not aggressive in nature ! I engage in civil conversations! But if you get on my nerves , you go collect ! You called me childish , yeah I’m childish when it comes to engaging dumb people because I have to come to their levels which is actually an insult to me but I know I have to just to teach them how to reason well ! By the way , I got the drink from the 2K abi 1K shared at the Ibadan rally and I’m hoping to get at least 3K from the Lagos rally holding on Sunday , add that to my BMC 30K monthly, better money right?
Asiwaju2023 !
He’s also going to be re-elected by the way after his first tenure of good governance which no other candidate can stand a chance !

You spent half of your text boasting. What is your main point. You talk like you are under 15

candidtalk:
Mumu. APC was effectively hijacked by Buhari and his cabal. In fact how APC went down, after Tinubu and others like Amaechi and Oshiomole etal fought for her birth and progress, is proof you are an ignoramus.

Yes Tinubu made a mistake backing Buhari to power but the greater lesson is that we are not mind readers and cannot tell what is in the thinking of any potential president.

That is why we should be searching for a leader powerful, influential and sagacious enough to help Nigeria decentralize power so that, at our regional and State level, we will all never be as impotent and powerless as Buhari and his crew made us.

The Senate let Nigeria down horribly proving that our current system is redundant and one we must get rid of.

Take power away from the centre and invest it where it can make a difference for those who want progress. That is the koko of the matter.

Forget all this religious bullcrap you are pushing that is the product of your Igbo indoctrination and brainwashing. If you are truly after progress then open your eyes and see what matters.

Decentralizing power and granting more autonomy to States and region is the only option that guarantees Nigeria's future progress and survival.

Otherwise we are inevitably heading for religious and ethnic wars as the desperation to control and commandeer central power grows if things carry on as they are.

In fact, APC and PDP primaries were about this reality of 'feudal control' for those truly knowledgeable enough to be aware of the big picture.

What we need is to empower states and region so there is no longer a feudal and murderous attraction to presidential, federal government or centrist power.

Read more and improve your intellect. Hopefully you will get the big picture someday.

You keep disgracing yourself.
If APC was hijacked as you claim, why did Tinubu support Buhari again in 2019 to the detriment of millions of Nigerians? Till today, Tinubu has only wonderful things to say about Buhari. He believes Buhari did great work so I choose to believe Tinubu's words over that of an unknown idiot on Nairaland.

Olojuobinrin:
I’m always drunk when engaging retards like you because in my clear state ! You can’t even stand me ! There’s not disrespect anywhere!! Christians will joint the rally and you can cry all you want !! Most Churches close by 12 ! The rally won’t stop by 12 !

You are too drunk to tell if I am a retard. In your clear state, what would you do? Would you fly from wherever you are to fight me? Childish.

MaxInDHouse:
Before Solomon's time God gave (only the Israelites) a law not to marry from other tribes {Deuteronomy 7:3} so it's clear that Solomon disobeyed God's law. But in the case of these your sons of God and daughters of men do you have a verse in God's word where you can point to that God has a special race before the time He began calling Himself the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob? Exodus 3:6

I'm asking this because it was after the release of Israelites from Egypt that they became His special people {Exodus 19:5} so do you have any scriptural backings for this your so called sons of God and their race so that we can be sure that they're not supposed to marry from among other tribes?

The bible made it clear. It only referred to men and to Jesus Christ as sons of God. If you are asking if God had followers before the children of Isreal, he surely did.
But let's assume he did not, It still does not make angels sons of God. Even today, God does not have any particular race as his sons. Even you can be a son of God even though you are not a Jew.

Janosky:
Oga, where did the events of Job 2:1 & Job 1:6 happen?

Let's confirm something.

The location was not wasn't stated in the bible but I believe it took place in heaven.

Olojuobinrin:
If your problem is having is with Muslims! Then go away !! You’re now deviating from the main topic which is about Yorubas being divided into Christians and Muslims , I killed you on that so you’re now moving to another maybe you can create another thread about Muslims/Muslims ticket so I can engage you there !! I’m done here by the way, some Christians worship on Saturdays !! The Adventist !!! They are also Christians!! They are not Muslims

Are you drunk? This thread or topic was never about Yorubas. It was about APC's disrespect.

OsunOriginal:
And how well does an average Igbo man honor religion and yet he heads cult groups, criminal gangs, drug cartels, IPOB, UGM, etc?

Ok I get your point, because you feel Igbos don't honor religion, you choose to act like a fool.

MaxInDHouse:
All the versions translated the verse to the best of their knowledge and NIV did the same by making it clear that the sons of God referred to in that Bible book are angels.
Do you know that the same Moses who wrote the book of Genesis wrote Job?

That aside, who are the sons of God supposed to marry @ Genesis 6:1-2 since they married the "daughters of men"?

Oh because of the "daughters of men" you got confused. I see.
In the bible, who does God call his Son? Basically, they are faithful men of God or those whom he has a convent with like the nation of Israel. So someone whom God has a convent with marries the daughter of an unbeliever that statement would be in place.

1Kings 11.1 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites:

2 Of the nations concerning which the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.

Was Solomon a son of God? Yes
Did he marry the daughters of God or the Daughters of men? You know the answer.

candidtalk:
You need to learn good things from others. That is how a man grows. I am a Christian but I recognise, from an exposed and well-travelled life, that religion should have no place in public administration and politics.

Elders are wise but they can also be set in their ways. It is left to us youths , as other youths have done worldwide, to embrace and set positive evolutionary trends that improves society.

If you had any sense you would know that the less we talk about religion ,in relation to politics, the more we can focus on capacity and ability of leaders to the glory of Nigeria.

Learn good things from APC. After 8 years you still feel you have any good to offer? I spit. If you had any sense, you would understand the importance of respecting and honoring religion

elated177:
I, Elated177, as a non-christian, believe in the Scriptures of YAHVEH Almighty, my Father in heaven, my Daddy in the Sky.

Far be it from me to advise anyone to believe my own words instead of the Word of YHVH Almighty. As his saint, servant, follower and messenger, I can only teach what his Spirits instructs me as expressly written in his Scriptures.

What about you? Should I accept that they are not the same simply because you said, even when the Scripture doesn't say so?

Let me ask you, tctrills, is it possible for me, elated177, to be a saint, a servant, a follower and a messenger of Yahushua the Messiah?

Then quote the word of God and don't be telling me what you think or feel.

Olojuobinrin:
A vice is a pastor and for the party to field a pastor as a vice should tell you that Christians are not sidelined! The wife of the Presidential candidate is a Christian and a pastor in redeemed abi RCCG no be church or dem nor dey practice Christianity ? Come to me if you have a more sensible argument because this is nothing close to it ! Have a good day !!

First 8 years you have a Muslim president and a Christian VP. Second 8 years you wand a Muslim president and Muslim VP. Stop the nonsense about a Christian VP.

Stone03:
Why are you begging them to postpone their rally to include Christians? Did they initially include you in their considerations?

I think you are mistaken. Maybe you are referring to someone else, not me. Pls check

Jnrprince1:
You are just being sentimental. Them no false anybody to start with them at the actual time after church you can join.

You don't even see how you are not making sense. You don't care if your Christian members don't start with you. Muslim party.

elated177:
They are the same.

I believe in the bible, not in your words. Just because you say they are the same does not make it so.

Olojuobinrin:
Oti ya werey oloun!! You need cane ! APC is a Muslim party but a pastor is the Current Vice President of the same country!! Mc OLUOMO planned a rally just like every other person has done for other parties and you claim that the party depends on him ?? Or you’re dumb I forgot , engaging you is going is like engaging a teenager in an adult conversation, so I think I need to stop , but once this gets to front page, the pe pop will see how pathetic you are ! Bye for now !

That you have a Christian vice is no excuse. If you win the next election, you would ensure that does not repeat again so stop the noise.

candidtalk:
Yes. I am a Christian too and not Igbo. Yet Igbos are the most intolerant and divisive Christians in Nigeria.

A disgrace to all Southern Christians because you are as bad as Northern Moslem religious extremists and Boko Haram killers.

We need more secularity, tolerance and the deliberate de-emphasising of religion at a very sensitive and divided period in our history. We all cried when barbarians stoned, killed and burn Deborah because of religious extremism.

Yet you Igbos, along with Northern extremists, can never be sensitive and responsible. You must lead the rest of us into a religious war as you led us needless into a terrible civil war.

You are clearly not a Christian if you are and if your party has Christians in their decision-making groups they would not rally at a time when most Christians are in church.

OsunOriginal:
Religious bigot on the loose. Yes, APC disrespects Christianity because all its members and governors are Muslims. This is what you're saying, dumbo.

What has politics got to do with religion? We don't muddle up religion with everything we do here. Politicians are doing their own things and religionists can also do theirs when and how they want it. Lagos is not igboland where everybody carries religion in the day and becomes a criminal kingpin in the night. The walk is from 9am to 5pm. Church service ends by 12pm maximum. Whoever wants to join can do so after church service.

If you don't know, Muslims also congregate on Sundays. It is up to anybody to choose where and when they want to go.

On the flip side, Sunday is the most appropriate day in Lagos to hold this kind of walk. Roads are generally less busy and therefore commuters wont be subjected to unnecessary hardship.

That's where you get it wrong. APC is the only party of religious bigots. You guys are so disrespectful. Do you guys have brains at all?

Janosky:
Oga,stop your folly and Mumu arguments.
Bene ha Elohim are Angels.
Malak are Angels.
They are Creatures of God.

As Christians we don't just say anything because our pastor said so, we use the bible. Bene ha Elohim are not angels, they are the sons of God. The bible called Solomon a son of God. In the Lord's prayer, we acknowledge we are his sons. You need to begin to take your bible seriously

candidtalk:
Your a throwback and a joke. Not surprised though because that is what the average IPOBian is and that is why you need your own nation so you can glorify in intolerance and discrimination along religious, caste, sectional and gender lines as Igbos do best today.

Imagine Igbo women taking Igbo society to court just so eldest female child can inherit the estate of her deceased dad. How fcking backwards are you people? Neanderthals.

You have shown that you have some education from your use of words but clearly, you have no sense if you would follow the insensitive decision of a Muslim illiterate called MC Olomo.

Olojuobinrin:
Ode ni e ! There’s nothing disrespectful or insensitive here , you’re just being repugnant with the fact that APC is going to hold rally on a Sunday !! But that doesn’t change anything, I will be at the rally too !! I’m a Christian, a celestial, we go to church by 10 or 11 sometimes and close by 2-3 !! I will be at the rally before I go to church and after church if the rally is still on , I will continue!! That’s how a patriotic person does his or her thing !! No excuse at all !! Even if it’s fixed on Friday which is actually a work day !! Guess what ? Muslims only pray for about an hour on Friday that’s how long jumat prayer lasts ! So your narrative is just dump and very unpleasant.

APC the Muslim party of Nigeria. That you guys depend on a low life like MC olomo to make such decisions shows the kind of people in your party.

Janosky:
Bene ha Elohim & Malak reference the same creatures of God.

Now you seem confused. In which verse do Bene ha Elohim and Malak reference the same creature?
Bene ha Elohim refers to son of God in Genesis 6:2,4
Malak means messenger of God. Very different.
My brother, just try and be reading your bible. This Hebrew thing is not working for you.

candidtalk:
Don't mind Igbos. They always reject good lessons from others because they are toxic by nature. I am Yoruba and Christian yet my own biological elder sister has been married to a Muslim Yoruba for over 20 years.

Two of their kids are Christian and one Moslem. The man himself is super cool and a great brother-in-law. For Igbos to learn from such progressive coexistence that betters society they will not.

Instead they prefer to spread the message of hate, intolerance, division and discrimination. Na wa for IPOBians.

Igbos are not the only Christians. Show some respect for God

olisaEze:
Is Tinubu from Lagos State? How about Aregbesola, why did he run to Lagos to become a commissioner instead of Osun?? Stop asking foolish questions.

Don't mind them

Olojuobinrin:
See you’re not making sense !! So having a rally on fridays or sundays means that the party hates one religion?? Are you saying this bs intentionally or what ? Because I don’t understand your problem here , people can decide to gather whenever they want !!! Monday or Tuesday !! Any day !! , hold on , can we also say those rallies being held during the weekdays is an indication that the parties hates those that are supposed to be at work and those civil servants are being sidelined because the rallies should have been on Saturday which is the weekend? Come on man !! I hate wasting time with your kind online pushing false narratives about we the yorubas !! After saying the yorubas hate one tribe or the other , you’re now trying to push another propaganda of yorubas being divided and the Muslims hate the Christians, lmao!! You don’t know anything!! Day go break , eye go clear soon !

If you had any sense, you would understand that it is disrespectful and insensitive to hold your rally at a time when about half of your supposed supporters would be worshiping. I understand that Mc Olomo a Muslim set the date and time. But those of you with some education should have kicked back.

candidtalk:
Clown. Religious worship should be private worship. Any Christian who cannot set that single date aside for their sense of religious obligation should proceed to church and ignore the APC rally. No walaha at all.

Note that I say this as a Yoruba Christian fed up of Igbos and their constant effort to always divide Nigeria along religious, ethnic and sectional lines.

It is too much from you people. You have already caused a devasting civil war Nigeria has not fully recovered from. You now want to cause a religious war also because of 2023 elections and the participation of your Christian messiah Obi?

No party has ever disrespected Christians like you guys. You have 7 days in a week but you pick Sunday.

Jnrprince1:
No lie how many of us still dey go church

So your point is because MC Olomo feels Christians no longer go to church, he picked Sunday for his rally. Now I see how you guys think.