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sonmvayina:
it is the same thing I have been saying.
Zachariah was sent to the nations that plundered Israel and Judah.
he is telling them that when God has come to dwell with his people, so they will enjoy his protection.
The chapter started with a vision of an angel measuring Jerusalem, then a second angel told the first to tell Zachariah that Jerusalem will be inhabited again, because God will be a fire round it to protect it, God was telling those at the north to come to Jerusalem as he he will be it's glory, and those who are also in Babylon should return because it was God who scattered them abroad. Them God said he will shake his hand and those who enslaved his people will be spoiled to their elites
God said zion should rejoice because he is in their midst, and when they see the salvation of Jerusalem, many nations will want to be part of it. and when they see this happening, they will know it was God who sent Zachariah and God will still choose Judah and Jerusalem again and enjoying all flesh to be silent and that God has left his holy dwelling place.

No j-man there, not a messianic prophecy.

Your point is that God sent Zachariah to the nations, right? Mention the nations he went to and what he did there. How come there is no evidence of Zachariah going to these nations?
Please read verse 11 again
And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.

sonmvayina:
it is the same thing I have been saying.
Zachariah was sent to the nations that plundered Israel and Judah.
he is telling them that when God has come to dwell with his people, so they will enjoy his protection.
The chapter started with a vision of an angel measuring Jerusalem, then a second angel told the first to tell Zachariah that Jerusalem will be inhabited again, because God will be a fire round it to protect it, God was telling those at the north to come to Jerusalem as he he will be it's glory, and those who are also in Babylon should return because it was God who scattered them abroad. Them God said he will shake his hand and those who enslaved his people will be spoiled to their elites
God said zion should rejoice because he is in their midst, and when they see the salvation of Jerusalem, many nations will want to be part of it. and when they see this happening, they will know it was God who sent Zachariah and God will still choose Judah and Jerusalem again and enjoying all flesh to be silent and that God has left his holy dwelling place.

No j-man there, not a messianic prophecy.

Lol, not only did this text not say so, but please, where is your evidence that Zachariah raised his hand against the evil nations and made them plunder for their servants, and so that we shall know that YHWH of hosts has sent him?
I feel you are reading a different text from the one in the bible. There is no evidence that Zachariah was sent and saved Israel from its enemies. It never happened.

sonmvayina:
it is the book of Zachariah we are talking about oh.
he is referring to himself., he was the one sent by God.
common man, if he was referring to someone else, he would have used him or her as the case may be. it is first person singular....
hahahahah, you fall my hand...
the nations that plundered them is Babylon and persia as at that time....

Let's assume ChatGPT is not good enough for you. So let's try the same prompt in Grok.
Here you go,
Original Hebrew Text (Masoretic Text, standard form):
Zechariah 2:8–11 (Hebrew verse numbering; note: in some English Bibles, this is Zechariah 2:12–15 due to different verse division):
Verse 8: כִּי כֹה אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת אַחַר כָּבוֹד שְׁלָחַנִי אֶל־הַגּוֹיִם הַשֹּׁלְלִים אֶתְכֶם כִּי הַנֹּגֵעַ בָּכֶם נֹגֵעַ בְּאִישׁוֹן בַּתְעֵינוֹ
Verse 9: כִּי הִנְנִי מֵנִיף אֶת־יָדִי עֲלֵיהֶם וְהָיוּ שָׁלָל לְעַבְדֵיהֶם וִידַעְתֶּם כִּי־יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת שְׁלָחָנִי
Verse 10: רָנִּי וְשִׂמְחִי בַּת־צִיּוֹן כִּי הִנְנִי־בָא וְשָׁכַנְתִּי בְתוֹכֵךְ נְאֻם־יְהוָה
Verse 11: וְנִלְווּ גוֹיִם רַבִּים אֶל־יְהוָה בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא וְהָיוּ לִי לְעָם וְשָׁכַנְתִּי בְתוֹכֵךְ וְיָדַעַתְּ כִּי־יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת שְׁלָחַנִי אֵלָיִךְ
Literal word-for-word English translation (strictly from the Hebrew, no smoothing, no bias, no influence from any existing translation or commentary):
Verse 8: For thus says YHWH of hosts: After glory he-sent-me to the nations the-plundering you, for the-one-touching in-you touches in-the-pupil-of daughter-of his-eye.
Verse 9: For behold-me I-raise my-hand upon-them and-they-shall-be plunder to-their-servants and-you-shall-know that YHWH of hosts sent-me.
Verse 10: Shout-for-joy and-rejoice daughter-of Zion for behold-me coming and-I-will-dwell in-your-midst declaration-of YHWH.
Verse 11: And-they-shall-join nations many to YHWH in-the-day the-that and-they-shall-be to-me for-people and-I-will-dwell in-your-midst and-you-shall-know that YHWH of hosts sent-me to-you.
Slightly connected but still strictly literal version (only minimal connecting words for basic readability, no interpretation added):
And thus says YHWH of hosts: After glory he sent me to the nations plundering you, for whoever touches you touches the pupil of his eye.
For behold, I will raise my hand against them, and they shall become plunder for their servants, and you shall know that YHWH of hosts has sent me.
Shout for joy and rejoice, O daughter of Zion, for behold, I am coming and I will dwell in your midst, declaration of YHWH.
And many nations shall join themselves to YHWH in that day, and they shall be to me a people, and I will dwell in your midst, and you shall know that YHWH of hosts has sent me to you.
This is a direct rendering from the Hebrew words and grammar alone, without any external influence, smoothing, or theological adjustment.

sonmvayina:
it is the book of Zachariah we are talking about oh.
he is referring to himself., he was the one sent by God.
common man, if he was referring to someone else, he would have used him or her as the case may be. it is first person singular....
hahahahah, you fall my hand...
the nations that plundered them is Babylon and persia as at that time....

I Just gave you the unbiased translation. Read verse 11
Zechariah 2:11

And many nations will join themselves to YHWH in that day,
and they will become My people.
And I will dwell in your midst,
and you will know that YHWH of hosts has sent me to you.

It's ok if you don't accept the bible or its teaching, but let's not act like we can't see what it is teaching

sonmvayina:
you keep removing a text out of a story, why?

what do you think you will learn like that?

it is a continuous narrative, why are you removing a line from a story?

just imagine you removing one sentence form things fall apart? what are you going to learn from it? nothing.....it's not going to tell you anything about the message in the story.
why are you not getting what I am saying??

Oga, I did not remove anything, its copy and paste. If you don't believe me, can you please copy and paste the verse from the KJV bible to show what I have removed? You are accusing me of dishonesty, so you have to prove it

HacheNoire:
Trump is a national dumbo!

Can someone ask the Orange turd what happened to the previous deal?

You cancelled a deal and severed relations, and now asking for a deal? How much more can one be foolish?

The option to revise was on the table via bilateral talks, but you cancelled, and same you talking about another deal.

Why I always say Trump is just a western version of Portable. The only difference is the language they use to communicate.

In a few days, we will tell who the real fools are. Just be patient and give it some time, we are going to see.

sonmvayina:
those interested in this convo, should read both chapters and point out where it talks about a messiah or jesus....i am willing to admit i was wrong.

So this AI prompt should clear your doubt.
Prompt- Zechariah 2:8-11, give me the original version and the unbiased translation to english. Please do this independently and do not refer to the works of other scholars or other translations

The result

Here is Zechariah 2:8–11 presented directly from the Hebrew text, followed by a careful, independent English translation that sticks to grammar and meaning only—no borrowing from existing Bible versions, no commentary, no theology added.

📜 Original Hebrew (Masoretic Text)
Zechariah 2:8

כִּי כֹה אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת
אַחַר כָּבוֹד שְׁלָחַנִי אֶל־הַגּוֹיִם הַשֹּׁלְלִים אֶתְכֶם
כִּי הַנֹּגֵעַ בָּכֶם נֹגֵעַ בְּבָבַת עֵינוֹ

Zechariah 2:9

כִּי הִנְנִי מֵנִיף אֶת־יָדִי עֲלֵיהֶם
וְהָיוּ שָׁלָל לְעַבְדֵיהֶם
וִידַעְתֶּם כִּי יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת שְׁלָחָנִי

Zechariah 2:10

רָנִּי וְשִׂמְחִי בַּת־צִיּוֹן
כִּי הִנְנִי בָא וְשָׁכַנְתִּי בְתוֹכֵךְ
נְאֻם יְהוָה

Zechariah 2:11

וְנִלְווּ גוֹיִם רַבִּים אֶל־יְהוָה בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא
וְהָיוּ לִי לְעָם
וְשָׁכַנְתִּי בְתוֹכֵךְ
וְיָדַעַתְּ כִּי יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת שְׁלָחַנִי אֵלָיִךְ

🧠 Independent, Unbiased English Translation
Zechariah 2:8

For this is what YHWH of hosts says:
After glory, He sent me to the nations that plundered you,
for the one who touches you touches the pupil of His eye.

Zechariah 2:9

For look—I am about to wave My hand over them,
and they will become spoil for those who served them.
Then you will know that YHWH of hosts has sent me.

Zechariah 2:10

Shout for joy and rejoice, daughter of Zion,
for look—I am coming, and I will dwell in your midst,
declares YHWH.

Zechariah 2:11

And many nations will join themselves to YHWH in that day,
and they will become My people.
And I will dwell in your midst,
and you will know that YHWH of hosts has sent me to you.

🔍 Key Linguistic Observations (not interpretation)

I’ll keep this strictly grammatical and textual.

1️⃣ “He sent me” / “I will dwell”

The speaker says:

“He sent me”

“I will dwell in your midst”

This alternation of first person (“I”) and being sent is explicit in the Hebrew.

2️⃣ “After glory”

אַחַר כָּבוֹד (achar kavod) literally means “after glory”

No object or explanation is supplied in Hebrew

Any attempt to explain whose glory or what glory would be interpretive

3️⃣ “Pupil of His eye”

בְּבָבַת עֵינוֹ is a precise idiom meaning:

the most sensitive, protected part

The possessive “His” is explicit in Hebrew

4️⃣ “Many nations will join themselves”

נִלְווּ (nilvu) means to attach, join closely

This is covenantal language, not merely political alliance

5️⃣ Repetition is intentional

“I will dwell in your midst” appears twice

“YHWH of hosts has sent me” appears twice

Hebrew prophecy often uses repetition to mark emphasis, not redundancy

🧩 What this text forces the reader to notice (without explaining it)

YHWH speaks

Someone is sent by YHWH

That same speaker says “I am coming” and “I will dwell among you”

Nations join themselves to YHWH, not merely to Israel

Those are textual facts, not interpretations.

If you want next, I can:

Diagram who is speaking, line by line

Compare this passage internally with Zechariah 12

Analyze the “sent me” formula across the Hebrew Bible

Or strip it down verse-by-verse, word-by-word

Just say the word.

Sonnobax15:

Are these modern South Africans aware that our own Obj spent millions of our dollars just to see them emancipated and they're yet to repay such debts?


Honestly, freedom doesn't look good on these generation of south Africans

Oga, calm down, e never reach to vex like that. Na drag dem drag u

fergie001:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maBs1RJAYRM



https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUDFF23ghLm/?igsh=Ymtnd3ZsdWM5MHc0

Secondus was born on March 22/ 1955 in his native Ama Nene village in Ikuru town, Andoni LGA in Rivers State. He made his political debut during the Second Republic in 1978. He later served as Rivers State Youth Leader of the National Party of Nigeria (NPN) and the Rivers State Publicity Secretary of the National Republican Convention (NRC) between 1993 – 1998.

He was first elected Rivers State PDP Chairman in 2002 until the expiration of his second tenure in 2008 where he earned the sobriquet "Total Chairman". In 2007, Secondus was the South-South PDP Coordinator for the National Campaign Council that ushered in the Yar'Adua/Jonathan administration and was later rewarded with his election as PDP National Organising Secretary in 2008, a position he held until 2012.

First appointed as the Pioneer Chairman, Governing Board of the National Identity Management Commission (nimc) in 2012, Secondus was elected Deputy National Chairman of the PDP at the 1st September 2013 National Convention of the PDP.
He was Acting PDP National Chairman after the resignation of Adamu Mu'azu following the electoral loss of the Party in 2015 and was elected substantive National Chairman in December 2017.

Secondus attended the London Chambers of Commerce Institute and obtained a certificate in Commerce. He attends the RCCG, married with children and grandchildren.

I was waiting to read where you talk about his chains of businesses and his source of income. So far, it seems all he does is politics.

SixSeven:
I have no pain or joy here. It's not to force my opinion on anyone.

Oya nah, all the best sir

SixSeven:
What you are referring to are personal preferences. Nigerians did not see a big deal in Igbo Ora until UNESCO recognized it. One man's meat is
..

I just saw that you updated your comment. Badagry shouldn't even be mentioned Really? Okay thank you for this conversation.

Oga, I know you think so much of Badagr,y but try dey travel and see other places.

Yes, one man's meat is another's poison. Some even think Makoko should be a tourist destination. But a travel company would market a place that would meet the needs of most of its clients, not just a niche few.

And please do not feel sore that not everyone has your passion for Badagry.

samdaisi:
Even the transporters are extremely wicked if the price reduce to 300 per litre they will not still not reduce the price, I can only admonish Dangote to peg the price at 1k per litre

Why don't we advise him to peg it to 10k

SixSeven:
.

Your first question, my answer is THAT IS WHAT IS SHOWN OR MARKETED TO ME. When the Jacksons came to Nigeria, they went to Badagry because of the story there.

To your second point, I'm sure you know in history about Egypt and Sudan. Sudan actually has more pyramids in the world than any other country but we go to Egypt, not Sudan.

For your last question, na Hawanatu Musawa go answer that one o. Na her work be dat but she's been talking about Shettima not being replaced so maybe there's something else she needs to do. On a more serious note, I will argue if I was given the task because one man cannot build a country, it's concerted efforts. I will advocate more based on sentiments and what I know but this may not be felt by the foreigners. For instance, I personally like the 'mystery' around Lugard House in Kogi but what's the concern of Michael with that? Again, I cited Macron's visit to the Shrine and that was because he lived here so he must have visited the place for fun as an officer. The government has to coordinate all of these and make it a package people are interested in. For so long, our government did not see the value in Nollywood but the artistes did and they saw the value and recognition when they went out of Nigeria. When you travel as a Nigerian, who do foreigners ask you about your country? It's what they see they know. If I visit a film festival, they will show me a place where a popular actor stepped foot on. Tourism is a serious topic to be worked on by our government. There is no need to

Oga, I have been to Badagry. Can you compare it to Elmina Castle, Cape Coast Castle, Osu Castle, and many others? If you are interested in the slavery thing, there are many far better places for tourism than the dry Badagry.

To your second point, yes, there are far more pyramids in Suda,n but any and every tourist would be interested in seeing the best, most historic, and the biggest. If I had limited time in Africa, it would be a complete waste to go see unnamed and obscure pyramids in Sudan when the best are. It is quality over quantity.

To the last point, let's be honest, do you really think Lugard House in Kogi, the Shrine, and Badagry even start the argument for Nigeria being in the top 25 inAfrica? Let's be honest here.

Below are the top 10 slave castles in Africa. Badagry shouldn't even be considered.

1. Cape Coast Castle (Ghana)
2. Elmina Castle (Ghana)
3. Fort Christiansborg / Osu Castle (Ghana)
4. Gorée Island / Maison des Esclaves (Senegal)
5. Ouidah (The Slave Route) and Fort of São João Baptista (Benin)
6. Bunce Island (Sierra Leone)
7. Fort James / Kunta Kinteh Island (The Gambia)
8. Fort William (Anomabu, Ghana)
9. Fort Saint Louis (Saint-Louis, Senegal)
10. Fort of São Miguel (Luanda, Angola)

sonmvayina:
those interested in this convo, should read both chapters and point out where it talks about a messiah or jesus....i am willing to admit i was wrong.

Please, those interested, could just read Zachariah 2.10 and tell us what you think. You could still read the entire chapter if you have the time.

sonmvayina:
let me actually post the entire Zachariah chapter 2, you just select some few verses and run away with it. it won't make sense. let us read the whole of chapter 2 the way Zachariah wrote it in Hebrew/Aramaic and translated to English.
Zachariah chapter 2



where did you see talk of the messiah there. i keep telling you to read it in context, you keep selecting some verses, how will it make any sense to you or anybody?
read the story, that's when you understand the gist/message the writer is passing. if you remove some verses from the narrative, you will run into error and come out clutching at straws. read it from the beginning, then you understand the flow of information. Maxindhouse is also guilty of it.

then lets put chapter 12 into proper perspective.



see verse 1 i pointed out to you. it has got nothing to do with a future messiah. it is about the Jewish people and what they are passing through., he is trying to give them hope.

Dont worry, let me paste the entire Chapter 2 for you so you can be informed

2 I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand.

2 Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof.

3 And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him,

4 And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein:

5 For I, saith the Lord, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.

6 Ho, ho, come forth, and flee from the land of the north, saith the Lord: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the Lord.

7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon.

8 For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

9 For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me.

10 Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord.

11 And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.

12 And the Lord shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.

13 Be silent, O all flesh, before the Lord: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation.

Now, put chapter 13 into proper perspective.

SixSeven:
I updated my comment. Thanks.

Oga, just one question to make you understand. If you are an American looking for a waterfall to visit in Africa, why would you visit Erin Ijesha, Gurara, and Farin Ruwa when you could just visit Victoria Falls?

Again, have you ever seen the pyramids in Egypt? That's why people visit Egypt. That country may not have a safari, but it is an archaeological gold mine.

You are a travel advisor, and your European clients want to visit 20 African countries for a breathtaking, remarkable experience. Make an argument why Nigeria should be on that list.

SixSeven:
I deliberately did not write where I have traveled to for my personal reasons. I have been to nothing less than 30 states in Nigeria FYI.

Ok congratulations. Let's just put it this way, you think Nigeria is among the most beautiful countries in Africa, but I differ. I don't think Nigeria makes the top 20. We can disagree; that's not a problem.

sonmvayina:
I no know where to start from.
it is not a messianic prophecy. it is about the Israelites. It is not one person that is being killed. the word "Those" suggest multiple people being killed.
God is saying they would look at him as their enemies are killing them, And they will mourn because God allowed it. it is not a messianic prophecy. The Messiah is not expected to die, he will rule for a long time and the world will enjoy an era of world peace., no more oppression of any kind. Isaiah says "Men will hammer their sword into ploughshares and learn of war NO MORE...peace....The Messiah is not coming to die for sins, God has already given them a solution to the problem of sin and it does not involve human sacrifice. ...

try and understand, it is not rocket science 🧪

Oga, you know what, it makes zero sense doing this with you. I will post all the verses here so that other intelligent people can read and decide for themselves.

Zechariah 12:10

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zechariah 2:8-11
For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

9 For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me.

10 Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord.

11 And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.

But then, do yourself a favour and use an AI to translate Zechariah 12:10, specifically request an unbiased translation that is not dependent on earlier translations or opinions.

SixSeven:
Someone who has travelled 26 states of Nigeria can never write what you wrote. I agree that Taraba is beautiful. In all my travel round Nigeria, the country is blessed. I know some foreigners who deliberately come to Nigeria, Kano precisely because of the sun. East, West, South or North, the country is beautiful. There's nothing they show abroad in their tourist sites that Nigeria does not have the equivalent. They are just poorly managed and our government officials don't think. Train rides was a norm in the past and people schooled in the north and lived in the south. I am always wondering why our president will be doing vacation abroad where Obudu is. Cold, hot, mid, you'll find it in the country and the natural scenery is nothing to be seen elsewhere.

Oga, I can bet you have not traveled much. With all the many things you wrote, you could not mention one beautiful place in Nigeria. Now, I did not say that Nigeria doesn't have beautiful places, but for it to become a meaningful international tourist attraction, you have to compare it to other African destinations. My guy, your country won't crack the top 20. There is nothing really remarkable; our mountains are not close to the biggest, and our wildlife does not rank in the top 25. Our lakes are just there compared to many others. Our waterfalls are ordinary. So what is the Nigerian advantage?
Travel outside Nigeria, and you will see that we have nothing to boast of.
In Nigeria, we still think Olumo Rock is some remarkable thing.

Alfred200825:
Nigeria has a lot to offer, we don't just know how to market it.

Marketing is not the problem, please can you list a few of the best Nigeria has to offer, and maybe we can compare them to a few other African countries.
If you pick your top 20 destinations in Africa, why should Nigeria make the list?

God1000:
She's a fearless and remarkable woman, her story is an inspiration for many people, not even Donald trump can stop this woman from shinning.


This is what the lunatic has turned america into with his hate rhetoric

She is the symbol of corruption, from having less than 100k dollars to becoming a multi-millionaire in just 3 years in power. And of course, representing the most corrupt group of people in the US.

sonmvayina:
This is Zachariah 12:1
1.The prophecy of the [b]word of the Lord concerning Israel[/b]Says the Lord, Who stretches out the heavens and founds the earth and forms the spirit of man within him:

then look at 10, the one you posted, this is what zachariah actually said, not the mis translation you have
10:
And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. And they shall look to me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son.

where did you see pierce there?

even reading from verse 1 to 10 will tell you the prophecy is about Israel.

stop reading and taking text out of context, you will miss the whole gist. read the story, it is a continuous narrative, i wonder why you will take a text from a story and run away with it, put it back where it belongs and understand the message the person is trying to pass..maxindhouse is also guilty of this, read the narrative and get the gist from it....why should i be the one to teach you simple structure and context.

there is no Jesus anywhere in the Tanakh where remotely or otherwise. The messiah God promised them, will be a king from the root of David through Solomon, not a demi god.

Oga, what is wrong with you? Is this your first time reading the bible?

Your bible version
And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. And they shall look to me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son.

KJV version
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Please look at the bolded. In your version, it says who have been thrust through [with swords] in KJv version is says pierced, both mean the same thing.
Please, can you stop stressing me unnecessarily?

Now, who was pierced, was it Zachariah or Jehovah?

SixSeven:
How many states in Nigeria have you been to

Please respond honestly.

At least 26 states, and to me, the state with the most natural beauty is Taraba

sincerlyyo:
Take him on BRT to Idumota for open market shopping and eat at a local buka. Then take regular buses/keke/bike back home. He won't forget in a while and might look forward to such again

There is a reason why destination companies do not have BRT and buka eating in their itineraries. But I congratulate you on your creativity. The truth is that we have very little to show, and this should be a wake-up call to us as a nation.

brain54:
It depends on the 21 year old 's personality and what interests him...

Catches his fancy and wants to see.


Nigeria is a country so big and diverse with a lot to see- from culture, tourism, night life, tech, amazing people etc.


It all depends on the personality and as they say when you meet a swords man draw your sword. When you meet a poet you can recite poetry.

You can't be taking or showing someone interested in culture tourism or night life. He would get bored.

Tourism-wise, Nigeria has very little to offer, and as for nightlife, maybe Lagos and that's it. Then, when it comes to culture, if you are lucky, he will come during one of our traditional ceremonies, that is, if it is his thing. Honestly, we need to develop our tourism. We dont realy have much to show the world.

Wallade:
Better than President Tinubu in what ways?

Tell us!

Ah sorry oga Tinubu is the best president on earth, he has turned Nigeria to heaven on earth, nobody better pass am.

God1000:
Julius malema is right, the orange clown is a Satan, I hate him with passion

I just pity Nigerians who worship this man, of course he knows how to play religious card and deceive gullible christians

How people will worship fellow human being is beyond my understanding

You are not better than them. You wake up one morning and decide to hate a man who has done you no harm and is a million times better than your president,
You call a man satan for the crime of putting his nation first.

The bible is not the word of God. It is a book that contains the word of God. Very big difference. It also contains other things.

sonmvayina:
Bull shit,
After the glory has he sent me (Zachariah) which spoiled you(Israel) for he that tourcheth you(Israel)..
For behold I will shake my hand (The lord God talking)


Context is key

So Zachariah is now the Lord of Hosts? Stop disgracing yourself. God never sent Zachariah to the Nations. It was Jesus Christ He sent to the world. Please stop disgracing yourself.

For thus saith the Lord of hosts: After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

9 For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me.
Read and learn
I can bet you have never read the book of Zachariah because if you have, you will know who was taking.
Here is another instance of Jehovah speaking in the book of Zachariah
Zechariah 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

I am sure you think it was Zachariah who was pierced, but it was actually Jehovah speaking there.

Go to verse 1 to learn who was speaking.
Here you go
The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

DaddyJapan:
@Nigerians, my people, let's buy local!

Let's stop enriching and enabling a US administration that views us with contempt and treats us with derision.

You have no choice, my brother. And stop preaching what you don't practice. The problem here is that you have a failed president, while the US has one of its greatest of all time as president.

jojo1415:
The luv for Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is massive.....only time wil tell 💯

The love for Mazi Nnamdi Kanu has not led to one good thing in the SE. This is a misplaced love

rickpat:
A pregnant woman is like a sick person,this should have nothing to do with equality or any nonsense....if a man is unwell,a woman should give him her seat...so that man is just being insensitive and senseless

You are so right, but this equality fight is only going to bring out the worst in both sexes. Most women do not want to be treated equally with men, and rightfully so. But this feminism thing is creating new demons in women, and many men are reacting to it. At the end, society would look like a battlefield between men and women.