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Maynmann:
What verse was that.

Check out these verses also. 1Peter 3. 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Maynmann:
What verse was that.

Luke 24. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Maynmann:
Calm down that was not me.

I was just trying to make the discussion more explicit and factual.

sorry, I thought it was you. By your definition, when Jesus told his followers to touch him because he was not a spirit, He was telling them that he was not breathe?

Maynmann:
Before you argue meaning of spirit.
First know the origin of the word.
No one is arguing.
Spirit means Emi in Yoruba.
The origin of the word means breathe
In “Hebrew” the language Old Testament was written spirit is breath.
Anything that’s alive has spirit, yeah that ant too.

You first said only humans have spirits. Obviously, animals also have breath so you are conflicting. even plants have breath. Hope you know that plants breathe? By your definition, when Jesus told his followers to touch him because he was not a spirit, He was telling them that he was not breathe?

Channah1:
The rain has kept me indoors since morning, not letting me know what to do with my life. So I slept only to wake up and realize I've not eaten.

I strolled to a nearby eatery and this was what I got for 1700. E no even "ok me".

Its better to cook your own meals o.. I can't wait for this regime to be over.

Semo 300
Soup 1 portion 400
Goat meat. That small thing 1k.

They tricked me into buying that soup because what I saw on the menu list was ognono 200 only to finish eating and the lady now told me it's 400. I checked again and saw that the menu list has torn. That was why the price of the ognono now tilted down and pointed to the wrong price ( 200).

Why would they even sell soup separately? Is that not wrong?

The food doesn't even look good. Most street foods in Lagos are much better. Learn this lesson, never go to expensive eateries for food you can get on the street. Hope you would learn.

Maynmann:
Spirit means breathe.

. Today, I would not argue the meaning of spirit. But whatever it means to you, both man and animal have spirits. Let that be the lesson for today. Next time, we can discuss what a spirit is.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, bad thinking!

How does "robots be able to do in 100yrs" connect with the fact that they do not have spirit?

Same for animal spirit!

And you should try to be more familiar with your bible, animals have spirits. Ecclesiastes 3:21

IyaTola:
I don't get your argument

You don't have to get everyone's argument. Not everyone on nairaland is out to make sense

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not ask "spiritual implication"?

Bros anytime someone says spiritual implications, do you see spirits. So if I ask, what is the spiritual implication of drinking, does it mean that beer has a spirit?

Dtruthspeaker:
You imply it.

If not, you would know it is no different from my neighbours Tesla.

Tesla how?

Dtruthspeaker:
They built a robot having human likeness,THEY DID NOT BUILD A SPIRIT!

Get that clear.

No one said robot shave spirit what point are you trying to convey?

Dtruthspeaker:
See, bad thinking!

How does "robots be able to do in 100yrs" connect with the fact that they do not have spirit?

Same for animal spirit!

You are the one complicating thing, I never said they have spirit, what point are you making?

BigBashiru:
And the evil Christian monster allows one race to be in controll for 2600 years?? Listen to urself!

What are you saying? You are not making any sense. Do you know how old the world is? Does the even of 2600 years wipe away thousands of years of history? Again what does this have to do with your so-called evil Christians?

HellVictorinho4:
You said I should not call it nonsense!


Even if I see it as nonsense!


That requires pretending like I don't feel like calling it nonsense!


You also called it an opinion

Therefore, if I call you tctrills, it's also an opinion.

I said you feel it is nonsense does not make it nonsense. Your opinion is not fact. There is a big difference between facts and opinions and I don't think I should be teaching you the difference.

sonmvayina:
The worshipers of Serapis where called Christians..

We all have our beliefs. Its nice knowing yours

HellVictorinho4:
Atheists can be more dangerously stupid than theists but I still don't think being a theist makes more sense at least in the head!


You might choose not to express your accidental atheism since you're under pressure but that's not because you have an option.....as you're under pressure.

I am not getting you at all

HellVictorinho4:
In other words, I should pretend.





Well,even what you state as your name is your opinion,then.

I don't understand what you are trying to say

HellVictorinho4:
I have the answer... the answer is no!



No universe

No multiverse

No alternate reality

Just one reality in infinite forms!


So you might call it a personal opinion but that's also your personal opinion!

That's the point, we both have personal opinions so I rather respect others. I would not call opinions that I don't understand senseless.

sonmvayina:
The worshipers of Serapis where called Christians..

Your opinion sir

Maynmann:
And?

So you can quote from somewhere that the roman catholic created the worship of Christ but there are many places I can quote to show that Christ created his church and the belief in Christ is older than the Roman Catholic church. We need to be careful when we claim to have facts. Because what you call facts is basically another writer's opinion.

Nerogaming01:
Lol no. I wasn't claiming to be intelligent LITERALLY.

'I'm too intelligent for that shit' is a slang from. GtA San Andreas

Oh I get you. Nothing do you

Maynmann:
Facts don’t lie

Yes facts don't lie but who is to tell who's facts are correct?
You quote from writers with your point of view and I quote from writers on my side. Who has the facts.


Jesus[e] (c. 4 BC – AD 30 or 33), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth or Jesus Christ,[f] was a first-century Jewish preacher and religious leader.[11] He is the central figure of Christianity, the world's largest religion. Most Christians believe he is the incarnation of God the Son and the awaited messiah (the Christ), prophesied in the Hebrew Bible.

This is also from Wikipedia

Nerogaming01:
The only person who is intelligent than me is me. Don't compare me to scientists when I'm not one.

Tell me your field and I would show you religious people who are more intelligent than you.
My point is that simply because you don't believe does not make you intelligent.
I don't doubt, you might be a genius but intelligence has nothing to do with religious beliefs

Maynmann:
CATHOLIC IS DIFFERENT FROM CATHOLIC CHURCH.
That’s like basic if you have read church history.

We are reading different histories. But it's ok. In your history books, the Roman Catholic invented Christianity but in my history books Christ introduced his church.
I guess we are allowed to believe in the books we read.

ExAngel007:
https://thenationonlineng.net/kelly-hansome-my-problem-began-after-timaya-introduced-me-to-my-baby-mama/

Keep blaming others for your problems

Maynmann:
ROMAN CATHOLIC CREATED CHRISTIANITY.
ROMAN CATHOLIC CREATED THE BIBLE
ROMAN CATHOLIC CREATED THE TRINITY.

ROMAN CATHOLIC IS DIFFERENT FROM “ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH”

There was nothing like “Christianity” before ROMAN CATHOLIC.
We had sects,ROMAN EMPIRE CREATED ROMAN CATHOLIC to unite the different sects and maintain a single doctrine.
After creating there Christianity they killed other sects that didn’t agree to theirs thanks to CRUSADERS.

ROMAN CATHOLIC had church fathers that created everything in Christianity now.

First understand that CATHOLIC IS DIFFERENT FROM “CATHOLIC CHURCH”

Well, I can't change your opinion. It's nice to know that we all have different opinions.

Nerogaming01:
I never chop this morning brother. I go re-read this explanation again later in the evening kind sir.

All in all, I'm not a spiritual person. Hence, I don't believe in the existence of 'spirits'.

I'm too intelligent for that shit.

(But sha, Jesus, your English BIG o.

So.. intelligent people full Nairaland like this)

I know many people more intelligent than you who believe in spirits. Your problem isn't intelligence, it's baseless pride,
Are you more intelligent then Michael Faraday, or Newton, or even Ben Carson?

Maynmann:
The fact is that “Chrestianity” was coined by Roman Catholic before it was change in the vaticanus to “Christianity”

Did the Roman Catholic Church influence Christianity? Yes.
But the Roman empire basically murdered early Christians. If they could, they would have stopped the spread of the religion.
So you would have been right to say that the church grew despite the empire and not the other way around.
We can discuss the influence of the empire on the church, we can discuss the influence of the Catholic church on the bible but saying that the empire created the church would be clearly false.
And I think you should do some research about the Greek Catholic church. To this they, they still claim to be the oldest church and the rightful descendants of apostolic authority

Maynmann:
I’m talking about CATHOLIC not CATHOLIC CHURCH.

The point remains that the Christianity suffered persecution before becoming mainstream. It's a historic fact.
So you would be wrong to state that the religion was the invention of the empire.
The empire hated the religion and did everything to stop it but failed.

BigBashiru:
Victory was given by God to the western europeans - they killed and erased native americans - and took over their land, performed genocide in Australia and took over their land, performed genocide against the new zealand and canada natives and took over their land. Performed genocide against south africans and successfully took over their land. performed genocide against zimbabwe and took over their land. murdered 10 million congolese, 80,000 in Namibia etc etc.

Today, at least 20 countries in africa are controlled monetarily by france which has resulted in their currency CFA lacking value - hence africans instead of migrating within africa are once again forced to migrate to europe and to countries God allowed them to colonize.

does God hate everyone else in the world except western europeans

Western Europeans only became the dominant power less than 2600 years ago.
Egypt, Babylon, India, China have at one time or the other been the strongest nations.
Even the Muslim world dominated the Christian west for hundreds of years

AfroAgroPower:
"As a Man Thinketh, so He is..."

Ecclesiastes 10 : 10

If na by thinking, every man for don hammar

Maynmann:
If you have read about the history of Christianity and you’ll know.
Catholic Church and Protestant church began after the great schism.

You are wrong. The schism began even before the protestant church.
Remember the slipt between the Roman church and the Greek church is a much older affair. Unfortunately much of the Greek Church was wiped out with the fall of the Byzantine Empire