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Warmaterial:
try get a passport as I advised earlier then make a move to purge yourself of ignorant...

Even if we opened your head and forced in knowledge it will not enter. You don't need a passport, you only need google but I guess data is too expensive for you.

DeepSight:
If you say that the USA which has armed and funded Israel throughout this and remains the only stumbling block to the UN declaring a State of Palestine is not their enemy then what's the point discussing anything with you. No point because you are obviously kidding.

Your message to Palestine would be, do not take the deal. Trump is your enemy. It's okay if your women and children keep dying, we would blame Israel.
How are you different from Hamas?

DeepSight:
Of course one can seek to positively influence but the way you put it when you say "power" over others carries a distinct connotation.

If you have influence you have power. I did not express it in any contrary way. And having power is not an immoral thing. We literally vote people into power.

LordReed:
Well, you make it too easy.

I never planned to make your life hard so have your fun

DeepSight:
Power over others should not necessarily be a thing of value for a principled person.

That's funny and untrue. It should always be valued especially for a principled person. When you value the power you have over others, you will mindful of it and not abuse it.
You claimed to be writing a book about Sudan. What is your purpose? Is it not to influence opinions on the subject?
Only a callous human will not respect and value his influence over others and will think it is nothing.
Someone was shaping the thoughts and opinions of a generation but you wave that off as nothing

LordReed:
Nah, look in the mirror to see the one making a fool of themselves.

Ok, you have had your fun.

LordReed:
LMAO! Go and educate yourself on the issues and stop spewing ignorant bellyaching that has no substance.

You know you are making a fool of yourself right? Just stop

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahaha! By the great beard of Orion, you don't even know who a trans or gay person is!!

No wonder, we are arguing with people who cannot even educate themselves on the basics of the issues they cry so strenuously about.

This one is confused. I have given you an opportunity to explain yourself but you keep getting worse. Please get help. Bye

Commentor:
No difference between Charlie Kirk and Hitler.

No difference between Obama and Hitler. Anyone can claim any nonsense doesn't make it true.

LordReed:
LoLz. You should have just said you got triggered by the usual outrage peddlers and have no first hand knowledge of any kids shows with gay or trans content. You are the one bellyaching over it so you should be the one googling the names since you don't know them. Get off your indolent behind and support your own argument, no one will do your work for you.

What's your point. First you claimed there were no LGBTQ shows now you are claiming that I don't know the shows. What is your point please. Let's first know where you stand. If you are saying that there are no such shows than we can know where to help you.

DeepSight:
I am not interested in being anything in such a regard and please and please and please, merely being famous or influencing people is not a thing of value in itself. If so, many useless characters qualify, including all sorts of drug addicts, porn stars, gangsters, gangster rappers and generally amoral persons.

There is nothing greater than influencing people. That's how the world is shaped. Yes the world can be influenced for good or for bad but it's the greatest power one can have over others

DeepSight:
No I don't think it's okay I am just explaining what I think is their reason.

As I said, we have clarity but not agreement

DeepSight:
If that is not the central theme of the show then it's not an LGBTQ show, it just happens to show an aspect of real life the same way all art imitates life. Part of the intention is to get children to understand that such people exist in the world.

Not that I would like my children necessarily consuming such.



No you are confusing being trans with being bi-sexual.



I would not.

Well I don't think there is much to argue here we both come from different believe systems. To me, it is wrong to talk about sexuality is kids shows to you, it is ok. Wr have clarity but not agreement.

DeepSight:
Beyond the initial thing that propelled him to fame - publicly rejecting gender pronouns - he is literally nothing.
Indeed I will go so far as to call him a fraud. A cry baby fraud.

Sorry to say, compared to you, you are the nothing. His ideas have helped shape society and help win an election. Hundreds of thousands of kids listen to him for direction and hope. It's ok not to like someone but to disregard your enemy is is sign of lack of wisdom

Commentor:
Hitler has more followers now than when he lived.

You've made no sense.

Yes we are talking about when he died not when he lived. Just because you have an uneventful existence doesn't warrant you call successful people Hitler.

DeepSight:
Are there really LGBTQ shows per se or simply some shows that show such persons and such relationships in a "normalized" light?

So if in a kids show, a child is openly coming out as trans, what would you call such a show.
Hope you know, a trans is one that engages in sex with both sexes.
Or in a show, a child is telling you that he is gay meaning he is sexually attracted to men why would you want your kid to consume such nonsense.

DeepSight:
Why should Trump and Blair govern Gaza?

What does "security perimeter" mean?

Why was there no Palestinian involvement in drafting this?

Because they are the peace brockers. Hope you understand that Hamas can no longer govern Gaza. And the PO is not capable. The only way to peace is to put Gaza under the care of a strong power that would stop the radicalization and make them a responsible people. South Africa can't do this neither can Iran so why are you complaining.

LordReed:
If I ask you to name 5 kids shows on Netflix with trans or gay content now you go begin stammer.

I don't watch gay shows. But if your point is that there are no LGBTQ kids shows on Netflix then you are ignorant. I have seen them but I don't watch, recommend or learn their names.
All it takes you is to Google. Stop being lazy. Google is your friend.

Commentor:
I'm not gay.

If I was, I would have been proud of it.

Name one gay person that has ever approached you or you even know personally?

Why are you offended by them?

I'm not wishing death on anyone.

For Charlie Kirk, I wish him what he wished others.

Very simple.

Why are you gay.
Some one is here talking about programs that corrupt kids and sexualize them but you are here talking about Charlie Kirk.
Charlie is dead but he will never be forgotten. His impact will forever be remembered. At his death, his Instagram followers more than doubled. Prove that great men really never die.
You are alive but no impact no one cares. You have so much to learn from Charlie. He was one of the greatest advocates for life.

faxana:
This is not about gay or trans whatever. This is about power.

Oga you guys should stop teaching kids to be gay. We already have enough LGBTQ. Stop corrupting kids with evil tv shows. And don't distract us from the topic. We are talking about saving the kids not power.

Commentor:
Musk wants you to focus on Twitter X.

Musk has a Trans child.

During Charlie Kirk's memorial service, the gay App, Grindr collapsed.

Grindr was able to show that the epicentre was the event itself.

Charlie Kirk was a racist POS.

He also thought it was prudent for such to happen.

He got what he prayed for.

LGBTQ spotted. You guys always wishing death on others.

DeepSight:
Many people have pointed out as I pointed out - who negotiated for Palestine in this so called deal? No one. So it is not a deal. It is an ultimatum.

And whether you like it for not, Trump remains the alter-ego of Israel in this matter and it remains nonsensical to have him as governor of Gaza, especially as they will be demilitarized. It will be a wholesale capitulation to Israel and a wholesale loss of their fight and rights. It will be enslavement and the truth is if you were on their side you would never accept it.

Aside from this, you have remained silent on Blair.

Only people like you who want kids to keep dying so you can blame Israel will find fault in this.
Again painting Trump bad is just you poor excuse to reject peace.
Why isn't South Africa or Iran presenting there own plan? It is the same Trump you love to hate that is in the middle of the peace deal.
You are right in one thing though, it is not yet a deal until Hamas accepts it.

DeepSight:
Agreed, past US Presidents have always tried to broker peace and in most of those efforts some of which were at Camp David, you would see both parties there with the US President (Arafat/ Israel). Please tell me who negotiated on behalf of Palestine this time.

Secondly Trump in particular cannot be considered neutral the way past US Presidents even tried to be. His talk of "Trump Gaza/ Rivieria of the Middle East" speaks enough and this is aside from the role the US has played in this matter since October 7 2023. Furthermore the inclusion of Blair is a slap on the face of everyone given his antecedents in the middle east.

No rational person can deny that making Trump and Blair the governors of Gaza is antithetical to peace and only represents a further layer of colonization. It is also a huge insult.

No rational person can deny that it represents a surrender.

Furthermore, you didnt mention the fact that the so called deal still leaves in place an "Israeil security perimeter" which is simply an euphemism for a continued blockade.

Yet further it makes no mention of Palestinian Statehood which is central to the issues.

Look, no matter how you twist it, everyone knows that Trump is best buddies with Satanyahu and is entirely on Israel's side, so making him the governor of Gaza will never fly, period.

So you know that the US have tried to make peace so why call the US an enemy. It's a very strong word and it's a lie.
Now to Trump, even in his first term, he proposed a peace plan and a 2 state solution.
Check out the link below.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Trump_Israel%E2%80%93Palestine_plan[/url]

The Palestinians rejected a 2 state solution under Trump but to liars he is an enemy
And even if a peace deal is coming from my enemy, I will take it and save the kids.
We both know that south Africa and Iran are not in position to organize peace so why not take the peace deal from the US.
If all the people that you call the enemy, stop negotiating peace and allow Israel to end the war, will that make your day?

DeepSight:
If you say that the USA which has armed and funded Israel throughout this and remains the only stumbling block to the UN declaring a State of Palestine is not their enemy then what's the point discussing anything with you. No point because you are obviously kidding.

What are you saying? The US has been by miles the biggest source of funds for the Palestinians so yes, they have funded both groups. The US has also been the biggest peace makers in the region. Every US president since 74 have tried to make peace. Every cease fire and successful peace deal in the region is the work of the US. From the Accords under Clinton to the Abraham deals under Trump. Please learn your history.
Lastly, if the people of Gaza and the Palestinian organization have not declared the US their enemy, why should anyone take you serious. Let us wait until the PO says that the US is their enemy. It should not be coming from someone like you who pretends to want peace.

DeepSight:
I dont think you have studied the 20 points carefully otherwise you will not say that the only thing Israel gains is the return of hostages. Secondly Satanyahu has said in Hebrew when he returned that they will never leave Gaza so who is fooling who. THIRDLY, you cannot ignore the point about the enemies of Palestine being appointed the government. That is absurd. That alone kills the deal.

I don't care what Natanyahu says in Hebrew or what Hamas says in Arabic. I care about the deal that both parties would be signing. Oga which of the 20 points in the deal is your problem because you are yet to mention which.
Lastly, it is evil to claim that the enemies of Palestinians is being appointed as government. Who are you to declare who's Palestine's enemies are.
You call the same nations that have fed, sustained and protected the Palestinians for years their enemies?
Thanks to the west, both Gaza and the West Bank had much better Human development index than most of Africa.
The Palestinian organization, the Arabs and the people of Gaza have not called these people their enemies but you and Hamas are busy declaring people trying to save Palestinians your enemies. Make this make sense.

DeepSight:
How come you ignore the factor of who will rule? Is it not Trump?

This is the first deal that Israel, Europe, the Arab world and the US are agreeing to this century but Hamas and it's Nigerian brethren beg to differ.
Now, do you even understand that wars have consequences?
Hamas has basically lost this war. Israel currently rules over more than 70% of Gaza. Hamas only bargaining chip is 48 hostages most already dead.
So it is not like Hamas currently rules over the land.
This deal is much better than what we have at present and it is simply taking away Gaza from Israel who currently have it and giving it temporarily to a body that has been agreed upon by the Arab world and Israel, given over thousands of Palestinian prisoners and the only thing Israel is getting in this deal is 48 hostages most already dead.
How is this not a great deal for the people living in Gaza?
Do you want peace or all along have you just been about condemning Israel.
Because as long as the war continues, you will have plenty to condemn but the day it ends, your work is done.
Oga choose peace. There is no gain in condemning Israel for no reason. I am not even sure you are paid for this job.

DeepSight:
It is nonsensical to say you are ready to make a deal when what you propose puts you in charge as the new government of Gaza. That is not a deal that is surrender.



Watch this space carefully because even right at the reading of the proposals, Netanyahu was already contradicting Trump. Arab leaders have said details have to be studied.



Its not just that they are friends. They are the enemy - the direct enemy and it is proposed in that deal to make Trump the Governor of Gaza. Come now, not even you can be so unreasonable as to fail to see the problem with that.



When are they going to conduct a referendum in Gaza to find out?

PS: Unfortunately you are a white supremacist otherwise this would have, for you, been reminiscent of how Europe divided Africa without consulting Africa or how the European powers made decisions for Czechkoslavakia in its absence, ceding it to Hitler.

You have always cared more about the comfort and wellbeing of Hamas than the choices, wellbeing, and will of the people of Gaza. Is this better for Gaza than endless war? Well we both know you don't care. You love the land but don't care about the people unless they are Hamas.

DeepSight:
It is nonsensical to say you are ready to make a deal when what you propose puts you in charge as the new government of Gaza. That is not a deal that is surrender.



Watch this space carefully because even right at the reading of the proposals, Netanyahu was already contradicting Trump. Arab leaders have said details have to be studied.
You seem to care more about the well-being of Hamas than the wills, lives and choices of the people in Gaza.




Its not just that they are friends. They are the enemy - the direct enemy and it is proposed in that deal to make Trump the Governor of Gaza. Come now, not even you can be so unreasonable as to fail to see the problem with that.



When are they going to conduct a referendum in Gaza to find out?

PS: Unfortunately you are a white supremacist otherwise this would have, for you, been reminiscent of how Europe divided Africa without consulting Africa or how the European powers made decisions for Czechkoslavakia in its absence, ceding it to Hitler.

The deal is simple, A peaceful surrender of Hamas and peace for the people of Gaza. All Arab countries agree to it, only Nigerian extremist and Hamas are making trouble.

DeepSight:
This is not rocket science. Netanyahu and Trump are allies. The USA and Israel have been on one side together, standing even against the wishes of the rest of the world. The USA vetoing everything at the UN to back Israel up. How reasonable is it to come with a supposed peace deal that offers to make Trump the Governor of Gaza, and Tony Blair of the non-existent weapons of mass destruction fame his deputy governor. How extreme do you have to be to fail to see why the other side will reject such a "deal?" It is nothing but "Trump Gaza" in disguise and it is totally absurd to expect one side to accept a peace in which the other side officially becomes its government. That is full colonization, and its odd that you people are here saying Hamas is standing in the way. There is no side in history that would accept such a deal unless it was totally defeated and had zero choice.

Yes Netanyahu and Trump are great allies but making peace means making a deal with your enemies which both Netenyahu and Trump have shown that they are ready to make.
Again all the Arab nations agree with the peace deal so clearly it is a good deal.
The idea that you wouldn't take a peace deal because Trump and Natanyahu are friends is absurd.
My question is, what do the people in Gaza want? Not just what Hamas wants.

DeepSight:
Don't be absurd, it was always going to be rejected. What kind of peace plan appoints your enemies as your rulers? Trump and of all people, Tony Blair (with his Iraq history) as the governors of Gaza is a joke taken too far.

This boy. Here you are. So you never wanted peace but pretended you cared.
The question is, do the people of Gaza want peace? Do they support Hamas' opposition to peace, or is this just Hamas wanting the war to continue?

Warmaterial:
Cote D'Ivoire is not in Nigeria level again in times of development, security and HDI.

Oga use Google. Google is your friend. Your poor parents paid school fees for a reason

Now learn
HDI for Nigeria - 0.560
HDI for Ivory Coast - 0.582
You are welcome

Pierocash:
most of you always say Nigerians are running to this and that country so that makes the country better. That is a shallow thinking. Nigeria is very competitive, to survive you need to be hundred percent up the game because the Nigeria environment doesn't tolerate mediocrity. People run to places where the competition is less There are a lot of Chinese people in Nigeria and various African countries. Are those countries including Nigeria better than China. I don't need to keep educating you guys on this topic because you already have a poisoned mind about your country. Only few countries in Africa are better than Nigeria, you can keep been bittered about your Country nobody cares. The proof of a good country is in how many billionaires , and millionaires they have. Nigeria has one of the highest number of billionaires and millionaires in africa

Oga, forget shallow thinking. You are the shallow one here counting millionaires when you are the Capital of poverty. The proof of a good country is security, good roads, low poverty, high life expectancy, and most of these countries beat Nigeria flat.
The prove of a good country is not millionaires or billionaires.
How old are you sef?
So let me teach you, we measure nations by what is called Human development index. HDI. Not Millionaires.
Please compare Ivory coast HDI to that of Nigeria.
When the said go to school, some of you said no.