DeOTR: We are seriously in trouble in this country if this is the trend. People will literally be killing themselves for food if this happens to be reality, because I know 80% of the almost 500million would still believe the government should be spoon-feeding them. We are too unproductive in this country for people to be giving birth in a manner that puts rabbits to shame. If this trend is not stopped, we are going to be having serious crisis, even in the next 20 years. You think it's no longer safe to travel without being kidnapped in 2025? Wait till we have this huge unproductive population in 2100 without the commensurate revenue to take of things. The future of this country is so fade.
Oga are you talking about Nigeria or America? I am not sure you know what you are talking about. You really believe that the Nigerian government spoonfeeds her people or are you joking? This is a country where government does nothing but steal. Nigerians don't depend on government for anything not even security.
Elzazzi: A church with millions of members can grow in the understanding of God's word too
Yes no doubt that's not disputed. My point is that we don't rate men of God by the size of their church. One is not a great man of God because he has a million members.
femi4: I am not. I just told you what was in the scripture. If you see otherwise...share it
We both disagree and I have already shared it with you. You claim the verse did not indicate Peter's financial condition but then not having money was his financial condition. What else do you want to read? Do you want the scriptures to print Peter's bank balance?
femi4: I meant Jesus' body not cross Read to understand not to argue
When Scripture describes a person’s financial status, like Joseph of Arimathea being called a rich man or Cornelius being a centurion of means, we accept that because the Bible itself makes it clear ,but in Peter’s case, there is no such description.
What we do see is his own statement in Acts 3:6 - “Silver and gold have I none.”
Since the Bible does not expand further on his financial situation, the safest and most faithful approach is to leave it exactly where Scripture leaves it, without adding assumptions.
It's funny, you are arguing but you insist I should not argue anyway we have both made our points.
I don't fully agree with this guy but at least he is fair and he does his research. Please share this video with Deepsight. He has blocked me for fear of hearing the truth. Let's hope he will listen to some other person.
I have seen the video and it comes from someone in the middle, quite fair. But then let's look at other angles. The European union let in hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees. These are whites opening up their doors to Arabs. It is true that the Palestinians have only exported blood and violence to their host communities. It is also true that their Arab brothers are afraid to take them in. But that doesn't make it right. And my question is to hypocrites like Deepsight who profess undying love for the Palestinians but will support their women and children remain in a warzone in the crossfires. Also, we can now appreciate the nightmare Israel is going through in handling these people that no one wants for good reason.
femi4: The man that carried Jesus cross and cornelius were described as wealthy
The narrator clearly stated that Peter was with no money at the time he was begged for it
Nothing about his whole financial status was stated here...Never add to the scripture
How does this concern the man that carried Jesus and Cornelius? Is their money Peter's money. Peter said he doesn't have money, he did not say that he did not have money at that moment. You see you are the one adding verses that were never written. .
adeoyekay: please read between the lines and comprehend. I didn't say prostitution is a sign of faith, what am saying in essence is the approach they use to channel their prayer to God, if they believe it will really work for them
The op ask if God answer the questions of prostitute, though the bible says the prayer of the unrighteous is an abomination to God but this does not implies in all setting
If a prostitute has faith in God, she will give up her trade and stop being a prostitute. That's my point.
sketcherJ: we define a growing church by their numbers. Because realistically speaking, there is no standard way you want to know who is striving to remain on the straight and narrow way. And everything is a game of numbers. Factually speaking, the more people you have, the more the number of people that could be real believers. Why did Jesus tell his disciples to go ye into the world? To go get numbers! why do they go on missionary work? Numbers!
Ok, let's agree that a growing church is defined by number that would mean that growth is a useless metric in the kingdom of God because all God cares about is that the souls return to him. Now to your mathematics, you claim that the more the people you have, the more the number that would make heaven. Is that God's word or your opinion? You can have a million people but if none of them is faithful, none will enter. The population of the church has nothing to do with going to heaven.
femi4: His financial status wasn't stated either..stop adding to the scripture
He said he has money, that's clearly telling you his financial situation. Some one says he has no money and you say he has money, who is adding to the scriptures. Two grown men had no money to give to a beggar but somehow you want to create a new narrative after they clearly told you that they had no money.
adeoyekay: As it stands God answer prayer in line with destiny and faith. The prerequisite for answering prayer is your faith. Even if you are righteous and you didn't believe you won't receive anything that is why Jesus ask them if they believe
God is not man, He answers prayer of the sinner as well and consider them if they will repent
Everything goes on earth but in heaven only the righteous can see God
Is prostitution a sign of faith in God? If you have faith in God, you would not be selling your body from one man to the other for money. Faith in God means that you trust and rely on Him. It means to wait on the Lord for His blessings and not to sell yourself to the devil for money to buy human hair and iPhone 17
femi4: That passage didn't mean Peter was poor. At that moment, they ( Peter n John) had no money on them to give to the begger at the beautiful gate...don't get it twisted
Act 3:1
One day Peter and John were going up to the temple at the time of prayer—at three in the afternoon
Peter clearly told you that he did not have silver or gold (money) what more do you need him to tell you for you to figure out that he was not a wealthy man?
Exousiang01: They were doing business Jesus categorically said he was going about his father's business, ministry is not a Sunday Sunday thing like some ministers who you never see during the week except on Sundays, the Kingdom business is full time work except you are a lay preacher. About Jesus said what or not, Are you telling me that every thing you know in the bible was said by Jesus? Because if that be the case you know nothing in the Bible.
sketcherJ: Current realities show that this was the best decision ever for the church. What an amazing growth!
How do we define a growing church? A church with millions of members worldwide or a church that no matter the number of members, the continue to grow in their understanding of the word and a striving rlto remain on the straight and narrow way?
jesusjnr2020: There weren't private jets during that age though, however when the life and orientation of Peter is compared to those of today's church leaders, the difference is telling.
I am sure you understood the context. Peter did not get rich from preaching the gospel. Nigerian pastors need to learn.
Iwould watch the video and get back to you but I promise you that unless your video supports Deepsight's worldview, he is not ready to listen to any other view that doesn't end with genocide Israel. I am open to debating and learning from other views so thanks, I will watch the video and get back to you.
Ruke1990: The point SA constantly misses is that south Africa is 5th best governed in Africa. It won't take long before they too will start travelling to other parts of africa. Governance in Africa is taking a positive turn gradually
I am not sure if you read that African countries are declining in global ratings. Please read the entire article. Governance in Africa is taking a negative turn.
DeepSight: I will not address your question because I dont believe you are being serious.
Since you have refused to have a conscience and your actions endorse the deaths of thousands of kids and women, I have decided to help you find a conscience.
DeepSight: As you may fantasize. I am no longer interested in anything you have to say.
I would be shocked if you were. It was exciting when you were accusing others of genocide and racism but now that you have turned out to be the very evil you accused others of, you run away and hide in shame.
DeepSight: I will not address your question because I dont believe you are being serious.
It is clear that you are only comfortable with Israel bad questions. But the moment anyone shows concern for the women and children in Gaza and begs for Egypt to take them as refugees that is a no go area for you.
All through our debate, I have provided easy answers to all your questions even the most foolish concerns like your comparing the London and Dresden bombing to Gaza. I felt it was foolish of you to compare a war that killed about 8500 people a day to one that kills about 90 a day. And with advanced technology, of course we should expect bigger and better and a more robust bombing capacity. After 80 years, we should expect that nations can deliver more bombs than at Dresden. I knew your question was foolish but I answered knowing you will get more informed in the process.
DeepSight: I will not address your question because I dont believe you are being serious.
It is funny you say you wouldn't answer because you actually did at first and it gave me a pick into how your mind works. Do you remember that you told me that Stalin did the same. You claim that he forced 30 million unharmed Russians to death by preventing them from moving to safety and you claimed it was the right thing to do. So at what point did you think that I was no longer serious?
DeepSight: I will not address your question because I dont believe you are being serious.
If you had wife and kids in Gaza, would this be your response. Would you take anyone asking for your wife and kids to find refuge in Egypt as unserious?
DeepSight: Just as "Anti-Semitic" is the favourite word of some others and has lost its meaning.
Oga, you are talking to me not some others. Are you saying that because others do foolishness, you too must do the same? Let's get serious and answer the main question. Why is it a great thing that Palestinian women and children are not allowed refugee status in Egypt? Why are Syrian refugees accepted all over Europe, but we hail Egypt for closing it's borders to women and children? And yet we blame Israel for the high death toll as if it is not what we wanted and expected.
DeepSight: Julia Brewer is a known racist and I can show you evidence of it.
Also you can keep repeating your absurdity forever about me supporting the imprisonment of the Palestinians. It will never make sense even to you, so I will not descend to address it.
This is not a question of racism so don't deflect. The issues here are that people on your side can't answer when asked why the Arab world is not interested in taking in Palestinians and why you support that I noticed that you are quick to call anyone who is not on your side a racist and it is making you lose credibility. The other day, you refered to Trump supporters and Zionists as racists who want to send all blacks back to Africa. I guess you have made racist to become one of your favorite words that you throw about without meaning.
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
.
When someone that supports the imprisonment of women and children in an active war zone is accusing others of being members of the synagogue of Satan, I see a twisted soul.
Anyway, here is a short video I am sure you would enjoy.