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freshboi88:
No, I don't...just as u don't have any verse to prove ur immersion standard

freshboi88:
If the doesn't dipping in the Holy Spirit. Then we can agree that the new testament usage of the word does not always mean dipping.

freshboi88:
So if u agree that the word Baptism does not mean dipping in the case of the Holy Ghost.

So why should u apply it to mean immersion in the case of water....??

Freshboi87:
Yes! I do

Scripture uses the word in other instances that doesnt infer dipping like:

Baptism of the Holy Spirit

And pls dnt tell me its spiritual
If you believe Christ meant another thing I would be happy to know. Because all my life I had taken his baptism to imply the very meaning in the language of the scripture..Greek


because if you say so, then you have to explain the spiritual dipping excersice

Freshboi87:
So Baptism of the Holy Spirit means to Immerse in the Holy Spirit!!!!...Abi

Freshboi87:
On what authority are you basing how baptism should be performed?.......Yours or Scriptural.

Just show me one scripture on which u based ur standard on how baptism should be done and this discussion us over. And pls dnt tell me dipping.

Cos in the case of the Holy Spirit, Baptizo is used and it doesnt imply dipping of any kind, shape or form

Tcwork:
Is it not English they used in writing the scripture. You believe the scripture has another meaning for the word?

freshboi88:
Are u now a dictionary follower.

Our standard is the scripture by brother. Scripturally man

freshboi88:
I am asking u to prove that immersion was the method used in th baptism of Jesus. Simple

freshboi88:
It will also be false to state that he was immersed

Freshboi87:
First thing first, i used river to refer to a body of water. I have not been to cornelius house before but i know there would be no body of water in his house.

On the case of him having a pool, that is assumption. But one thing is clear:

1. Baptism doesn't have to be in a body of water. It can take place anywhere.

U keep asking to provide a verse that points out what mode was used in Cornelius home. Like i said the bible is silent on that. Same with every other instance of water baptism in the bible.

If u have a verse that point out immersion as the mode of baptism that was done. Please point it out. Because u r d one who said immersion is the scriptural standard. Provide proof!!

Freshboi87:
Is this scriptural?

So can u show me scripturally where Cornelius was baptized in a pool?

We are talking scripture not sentiment

madegreatbygrace:
Lol..... You’re one hell of a funny man. Jesus never said a man must be born of “water” before being administered into His kingdom. For your information, I already did a post on the verse above which you misapplied. I explained everything there. Just go through my profile and search it out. I hope it blesses you.

Freshboi87:
you earlier said baptism must be done where there is a body of water. You said that was the new testament standard.

I showed you that you are wrong by showing you the baptism of cornelius and his household which was not done in any body of water but in his house.

I am not the one who claims one method is a standard and all others are wrong scripturally. So I do not have anything to prove.

However, if I wanted to assume like u. I would say the Baptism of cornelius was certainly not done by immersion because Cornelius house was certainly not built on top on a river. But i know that if i do that, i am inferring. because the bible doesnt say how it was done.

Just the same way the bible is silent on what mode was used for those done in a body of water.

If you have a verse where the bible is specific on what mode was used please quote it here
Have you been to cornelus house? You keep saying thing's without prove.
Who says immersion can only be doNE in a river.
Trying to argue this way is so unfair. Can you tell if Cornelius had a pool in his home. You said you don't like sentiment's but your argument here isn't based on scripture but 100% sentiments

Freshboi87:
MATTHEW 28:18-20 (KJV and NRSV) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.

Stop saying what you don't know sir. Read Jesus's command.

madegreatbygrace:
You must know the difference between water baptism and being baptized in the name of the Lord.

“Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

One of the several meanings of baptism is to be immersed into something, which is not always water.

When a man hears the gospel and believes, he’s instantly baptized(immersed) into the body of Christ . This has nothing to do with water.

In the foregoing, and many other instances in the book of Acts, Paul heard the gospel and believed and was baptized (NOT With water) into the body. This is when he was officially welcome into the body of Christ. You can’t become a member unless you’re immersed into the body of members.

Here are other instances:

“Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:41‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The instances above are not water baptism but baptism into the body, which is the same as baptism into the name of the Lord.

When it came to water baptism, water was mentioned and it was clear, precise and unequivocal. There are only two instances:

“Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:36‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


““Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have? ””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:47‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

madegreatbygrace:
You must know the difference between water baptism and being baptized in the name of the Lord.

“Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

One of the several meanings of baptism is to be immersed into something, which is not always water.

When a man hears the gospel and believes, he’s instantly baptized(immersed) into the body of Christ . This has nothing to do with water.

In the foregoing, and many other instances in the book of Acts, Paul heard the gospel and believed and was baptized (NOT With water) into the body. This is when he was officially welcome into the body of Christ. You can’t become a member unless you’re immersed into the body of members.

Here are other instances:

“Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:41‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The instances above are not water baptism but baptism into the body, which is the same as baptism into the name of the Lord.

When it came to water baptism, water was mentioned and it was clear, precise and unequivocal. There are only two instances:

“Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from

I would leave you with the words of Jesus in
John3.5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
It is either you are right or Jesus Christ is right. Who do we believe?
You are claiming that there is another type of baptism. None of those verses you quoted even slightly suggest such.
You just decided on your own that these verses must be talking of another type of baptism.
No single verse in the bible talks ofor 2 different kinds of baptisms.
The book of Ephesians talks about one baptism.
Any man nothe born of water and the spirit cannot enter the kingdom of God