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here's nemesis.

Beautiful and lethal.

MikeCZA:
Who's missile?

The Europeans now have better SRAAMs and BVRAAMs( IRIS-T and Meteor).

Obviously meteor is a beast. However, you're not getting away from the AIM-120C/D too.

MikeCZA:
With one of the not so lethal missile available on earth.

I think your missile will also find it hard getting lock on a stealth aircraft as its guidance system will get a feint signal most especially during a maneuver.

Patchesagain:
Only truly lethal when part of a system

It's called the Joint Strike Fighter for a reason

That's a raptor.

jln115:
BVR yes.....WVR BIG NOPE!!

Why no? Support your reasons .

M14A1:
Yeah
You win on Xbox no offense.

COD

jln115:
My fellow countrymen @Patches689 will disagree but personally i feel the F22 is overrated!! In fact most US weapon systems are overrated IMO!

Actually I don't know if I should say it's overrated or it's capability is overhyped but currently, no other jet can match it in combat.

The most lethal aircraft on earth for now.

iblawi:
Your maximum detection range is 120km and you believe it will detect 0.1m2 object at it maximum detection range. You are really pathetic.

He will always find a way to counter whatever you type and argue that it's right.

jln115:
Buddy the RCS of the Gripen C is 0.1m2( Ive provided sources on this forum multiple times), the EuroFighter 0.75m2 and Rafale 1m2 vs 3m2 for your Junk Fighter......Conclusion Canard>DSI

As i said before DSI does not= Magic

Bro 0.1 still being detected at 100km is shit. Bring me a source from SAAB not a forum.

What the hell? I won't take 0.1. Keep your opinion sef.. In fact the Gripen RCS is 0.00001. Bullshiit. 0.1 and still be found at 100km.

In stealth, canard is a NO No as it will compromise stealth as seen from the J20. Frontal stealth.
DSI increases stealth so enough of your canard >dsi

dsi is a function of top speed.


A combat jet inlet should provide an engine with high-quality airflow over a wide range of speeds, altitudes, and maneuvering conditions while accommodating the full range of engine airflow from idle to maximum military or afterburning power.

Jln. You can't have maneuverability, speed, stealth, etc in one aircraft and that doesn't make a plane obsolete.

F35 and f22 are good examples. DSI limits speed to mach two. There are more factors that limits an aircraft speed.

iblawi:
He finished Henry with fault claims right?

Range and RCS he claimed the gripen has is funny not to talk of gripen detecting object with RCS of 0.1m2 120km away when Britain that sold the radar to Sweden never claim such on typhoon.

CAPTOR-E is only able to detect F-35 59km away and your junk fighter will detect similar object 120km away.
http://m.koreatimes.co/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=97236

You South Africans are really funny.

0.1 being detected at 100km means Gripen RCS is higher than that.

An escort vehicle at the front of the Lexus.
You don't want to be maltreaated by those men in black.

jln115:
-You don't even know what DSI is let alone how it works, BTW what do the Gripen, Rafale, Typhoon,SU30mki and J10 have in common?.....They all have movable canards and not some magical DSI

Mr man DSI limits JF17 high speed just like the F35.

canard also increases RCS just like the J20 whose canard is being coated. Yours doesn't even have a coating so no.


DSI reduces RCS. You should learn some research, instead of depending on some forum junks.

DSI over canard.

The frontal RCS of Gripen is obviously higher than one. I heard the Gripen can be detected at >100km
You can provide a link from SAAB that claims 1.

psucc:
Those aren't NA's flag. [s]Buhari had been using strange flags in addition to Nigeria's.[/s]

Do your research well.

Nigerian Defence Forces Flag
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Nigerian_Defence_Forces_Flag.svg/2000px-Nigerian_Defence_Forces_Flag.svg.png
Commander-in-Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces Flag
https://67.media.tumblr.com/281a9fc68a1c7e0a10fff5cb5efd33f6/tumblr_mf8h62RU3x1r8h8l2o1_500.png

blueto:
If this is true, then I don't see a fascinating reason for such, the arms forces are also Nigerians so a Nigerian flag should represent all.

https://www.readingthepictures.org/files/2014/09/140910_obama_speech_gty_605-600x325.jpg
US uses her presidential seal so no big deal.

Patchesagain:
Just like you only purchased a hand full of F7s the same will apply to the J17

[s]You are a poor nation and buy cheap things[/s]

Dumb Post.

bidexiii:
Navy Conducts Longest Range AAW Intercept from USS Princeton

During the Naval Integrated Fire Control - Counter Air (NIFC-CA) test, USS Princeton (CG 59), equipped with the latest Aegis Baseline 9, successfully processed data from a remote airborne sensor to engage and destroy an over-the-horizon threat representative target using Standard Missile-6 (SM-6).

This is not the first time that SM-6 has shattered its own distance record. The missile broke the previous long-range intercept record in January of this year onboard USS John Paul Jones at Pacific Missile Range Facility, a milestone it originally set in June of 2014.

This NIFC-CA test was the tenth consecutive successful live-fire test to demonstrate an over-the- horizon, engage-on-remote capability. This particular test also successfully validated the NIFC-CA from the sea kill chain concept.

The success of this test was due to the collaborative efforts of the Navy Point Mugu Test Center, Naval Integrated Fire Control - Counter Air and Aegis Weapon System program offices and multiple industry partners.

"NIFC-CA is a game changer for the U.S. Navy that extends the engagement range we can detect, analyze and intercept targets at sea," said Rear Adm. Jon Hill, the Program Executive Office Integrated Warfare Systems (PEO IWS). "This test is a significant accomplishment, one that will shape the future of surface warfare."

NIFC-CA From The Sea is a program of record which uses four pillar programs to act as a kill chain for the surface fleet: Aegis Baseline 9.0, Cooperative Engagement Capability, E2D Hawkeye and SM-6.

"We are looking at every ship as a potential offensive weapons platform in an effort to gain and maintain sea control," said Vice Adm. Tom Rowden, commander, Naval Surface Forces.
"Neutralizing enemy cruise missiles at range, as demonstrated in this test, is one of the dramatic leaps forward the Surface Force is making to implement the concept of Distributed Lethality and extending the offensive battlespace."

SM-6 provides U.S. Navy ships with extended-range protection against fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and anti-ship cruise missiles and ballistic missiles in the terminal phase of flight. The active radar and extended range of the SM-6 allow it to track and destroy over the horizon targets which are out of sight of operators on deck.

Aegis Baseline 9 delivers a fully open architecture system on U.S. cruisers and destroyers and is the basis for current and future Aegis Integrated Air and Missile Defense. Baseline 9 is being fielded on in-service destroyers, new construction destroyers and Aegis Ashore. The Aegis Common Source Library-enabled derivatives are on Freedom-variant littoral combat ships and will be included on the upcoming frigate ship.

PEO IWS is an affiliated Program Executive Office of the Naval Sea Systems Command. IWS is responsible for spearheading surface ship and submarine combat technologies and systems, and for implementing Navy enterprise solutions across ship platforms.

During the Naval Integrated Fire Control - Counter Air (NIFC-CA) test, USS Princeton (CG 59), equipped with the latest Aegis Baseline 9, successfully processed data from a remote airborne sensor to engage and destroy an over-the-horizon threat representative target using Standard Missile-6 (SM-6).

This is not the first time that SM-6 has shattered its own distance record. The missile broke the previous long-range intercept record in January of this year onboard USS John Paul Jones at Pacific Missile Range Facility, a milestone it originally set in June of 2014.

This NIFC-CA test was the tenth consecutive successful live-fire test to demonstrate an over-the- horizon, engage-on-remote capability. This particular test also successfully validated the NIFC-CA from the sea kill chain concept.

The success of this test was due to the collaborative efforts of the Navy Point Mugu Test Center, Naval Integrated Fire Control - Counter Air and Aegis Weapon System program offices and multiple industry partners.

"NIFC-CA is a game changer for the U.S. Navy that extends the engagement range we can detect, analyze and intercept targets at sea," said Rear Adm. Jon Hill, the Program Executive Office Integrated Warfare Systems (PEO IWS). "This test is a significant accomplishment, one that will shape the future of surface warfare."

NIFC-CA From The Sea is a program of record which uses four pillar programs to act as a kill chain for the surface fleet: Aegis Baseline 9.0, Cooperative Engagement Capability, E2D Hawkeye and SM-6.

"We are looking at every ship as a potential offensive weapons platform in an effort to gain and maintain sea control," said Vice Adm. Tom Rowden, commander, Naval Surface Forces.
"Neutralizing enemy cruise missiles at range, as demonstrated in this test, is one of the dramatic leaps forward the Surface Force is making to implement the concept of Distributed Lethality and extending the offensive battlespace."

SM-6 provides U.S. Navy ships with extended-range protection against fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and anti-ship cruise missiles and ballistic missiles in the terminal phase of flight. The active radar and extended range of the SM-6 allow it to track and destroy over the horizon targets which are out of sight of operators on deck.

Aegis Baseline 9 delivers a fully open architecture system on U.S. cruisers and destroyers and is the basis for current and future Aegis Integrated Air and Missile Defense. Baseline 9 is being fielded on in-service destroyers, new construction destroyers and Aegis Ashore. The Aegis Common Source Library-enabled derivatives are on Freedom-variant littoral combat ships and will be included on the upcoming frigate ship.

PEO IWS is an affiliated Program Executive Office of the Naval Sea Systems Command. IWS is responsible for spearheading surface ship and submarine combat technologies and systems, and for implementing Navy enterprise solutions across ship platforms.

Go Aegis lol

https://i1.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150618-N-XN177-035.jpg?fit=625%2C417&ssl=1

Patchesagain:
It does make a difference because it means I am more likely to detect you first, it gives me options. It is better

We outlined the Gripens electronics they are better

Gripen has better wing loading, it is more maneuverable

Gripen has a higher g-raying (9 v

Gripen has a more powerfull engine (54kN v 50kN)

One extra hard point And the ability to carry an extra 1500kgs of weapons

Gripen is also faster (Mach 2 v Mach 1.6)

So how is a jet that is inferior in every way the same as a Gripen? How?

Jf17 has been around for 13 years, its as good as a Gripen... Yet where are the sales? SAAB has sold over 80 Gripen... Only 20 JF-17 sold. Why?

Nigeria has only purchased 3. Facts seem to allude you.

The way you argue is what makes me laugh. Wing loading, speed, engine etc. Argue with facts not numbers.

Patchesagain:
AESA upgrade is available

Yes, in combat when I light up my targetting radar and tell everyone (who does not already know) that I am there I want to hit as many targets as possible as quickly as possible

Maneuverable means you are more likely to evade legacy SAMs... But yes, the Adarter just made maneuverable obsolete

Upgrade can be done on the JF17. Changing a radar system of an aircraft is not a big deal.
klj-7 can manage up to 40 targets, monitor up to 10 of them in track-while-scan (TWS) mode and simultaneously fire on "I think" four BVR targets. I got enough target painted already so no big deal.

I found this on SAAB website.

General: Pulse Doppler, X band radar, monopulse
Sub-units: 4 Rack mounted units + antenna unit and waveguide parts
Weight: 150 kg
Antenna (ANT): 60 cm, Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) dipoles
Power Amplifier Unit (PAU). Transmitter: Travelling-Wave Tube (TWT), liquid cooled, peak power >10 kW
Transmitter AuxilliaryAuxiliary Unit (TAU)
High-FrequencyExciter Receiver Unit (EXRHFU): Narrowband and wideband receivers, digital pulse compression, state-of-the-art spectral purity and noise figures
Signal and data processorRadar Processing Unit (RPUSDP): Saab airborne Modular Avionic Computer System (MACS) computer system and parallel COTS based multiprocessor cluster, solid state discs for recording
Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF): 250 400 hours in airborne operation

No extra big deal. Just a normal radar designed to do what it needs to do and not something extra.

ADarter is obviously a good missile but you make things look like it's a miracle. Maneuverability is useless against most Missiles already so it's not a new thing.

Patchesagain:
Lol

It's better because a forum post says so?

We compared the two

Gripen is:

-faster
-more maneuverable
-carrys a bigger payload
-has more hard points
-has more powerful radar
-has more capable electronics etc etc etc

Fact is, you say Gripen is over priced. Yet people keep buying it. Thus; it is not over priced. Over 89 Gripen have been sold.

Fact is your cheap junk fighter has been flying for 13 years and they have sold only.... 20.

What is happened is that Nigeria could not afford a proper fighter, so they got a cheap Chinese copy, and even then you could only afford 3

Gripen doesn't even operate an AESA radar so how do you define powerful? Because you can launch at more tan 5 targets at a time? In a real combat situation, You wouldn't want to do that.
That's the only difference. If you were comparing to PESA or AESA, I would have agreed but not with a pulse Doppler radar.

Maneuverability: Maneuverability doesn't win a fight always.
Who wants to do a cobra maneuver in a real life combat situation? All conventional maneuvers can be performed by the JF-17 so I see no big deal with this maneuverability issue.

M14A1:
Nigeria does a better job at cloning techs more than the Chinese.

lol.

malele:
Op this shows you have never traveled outside nigeria.
if u have, you will be surprise if Nigeria airport makes it 700th airport in africa

How many airports do we have in Africa sef?

zeedof:
Hello my fellow boss in the house, can someone please tell me how much NPF Microfinance earn per month? Also are they regarded as police officer and is there any advantage aside their salary?

Some of her personnel are officers and most are not.

If you're about to join this way, you are obviously not going to be regarded as an officer.

I think we shoukd fly our flag over sambisa in a way of saying we are still in control then followed by some strike from the F-7's. We don't need them to demonstrate at ABJ today. Just some hello to Shekau should do.

nkemdi89:
Yes you can quote me, an average police feels protecting someone is all about siren, long guns and offensive driving, what about getting background information about the movement, what about advising madam on the implications of embarking on some considering the time and place, if her security isn't much why not advise her for additional manpower, some movement are better to go in discreet. In convoy driving the only vehicle that should pass your own should be an higher vip or bullion van, so what happened. Why did they leave her if there was a shooting are they not supposed to protect her? Even if they were shot, that is the job, why should they abandoned her? Are those guns not meant for her.

Actually ma'am the police does more than the daily work we see personally.

They are not combat officers and the best they was to back off. The aim is to protect the VIP she may loose her life in a fire crossfire. The military will take care of the Job, that's a high profile kidnapping and those idiots are surrounded already. The military won't storm the arena to release her due to the fear of risking her life. However, if anything happens to her they will be forced to take full force. The Nigerian navy tried that already.

Not even the US navy seals or British SBS will storm the kidnappers den without negotiation to buy time.

Youngzedd:
The kidnappers don't have common sense. There are some people you shouldn't even think of kidnapping.

Na now them go know say that our armed forces are working.

Check back in 2 weeks time, these guys will be arrested.

Exactly. They have got two options.

1) release her and face the wrath of the Nigerian military.
2)Harm her and the military descend on you.

Either which way, NASRDA is there tracking them.

Anyone guessed how the military got their location?

nkemdi89:
Why will she move with only police escorts, is she not entitled to security details? A police has little knowledge on vip protection, there is a big yardstick between escorts duty and protective duty. With the security situation of the country she deserves better protection than that. Sometimes most of these vips overlook the usefulness of security because they don't want to spend, or they perceived most of them as illiterate who can't add any inputs to their lives. One wicked thing about those kidnappers they always rape their female victims irrespective of their status or age. In as much as an insider can not be overruled in this issue it's pertinent for most vips to accept proactive intelligence and security education because no one has autonomy over knowledge, education and intelligence.

The police has little VIP knowledge? You're wrong ma'am. The post said four police officers and obviously, the kidnappers should number up to 10.

Even if they were military guys they may loose their life due to lack of situation awareness. You don't know the ambush on ground.

Only if their vehicles were armed can things work at their advantage.

Julietcutie:
na wa...our police men are just so weak ...to bad for her

Did you read? Four police men, what were you expecting? Against probably 12 well armed kidnappers.

Obviously, the kidnappers will be arrested if they harm her.