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Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 10:09pm On Oct 23, 2017
nemesis4u:
if it was upto me i would have hooked u up with a better deal with regard to FC1/JF17

FC-1 deal directly with china with ironclad provision for local MRO and lifetime support , Chinese supplied Russian engines and local involvement with Chinese aerospace for skill development leading to subsequent MLU participation for the Nigerian FC-1.

the fact that u have to get ur engines directly from Russia is a bit of handicap IMO, becz the volume of order will be small and the documentation / legalities associated will be time consuming.

one point source for all ur aircraft needs makes life very easy from operational POV. spares , weapons , consumables , engines u name it

now everything (except engines) gets routed through 3rd party who will take their share of profits

also the fact if the deal had been with the Chinese , u could have leveraged and linked the FC-1 purchase to get aboard the stealth J31 program at lower costs and with in house Nigerian involvement, which Chinese anyways intends to export. the possibilities r huge given ur negotiation skills.

in my opinion these is how i would have gone about , a deal in the present leveraged to get me a better deal in the future to take of my future requirements also. ie make my every penny count

view r my personal views and may not be correct
Nice write up. The whole deal has been messed up from the beginning
Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 9:43pm On Oct 23, 2017
Henry240:
We are not getting any JF-17s. We simply back to Square one.
How did you confirm that? Someone just told me some JF17 recently got moved into China for testing and they're not Myanmars.
Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 6:56pm On Oct 23, 2017
Nemesis4u, any news on Nigeria's JF17? Was told it's in a matured stage already.



Any pictures through your secret service job grin
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 2:21pm On Oct 22, 2017
slimthugchime:
Its a Kalashnikov that have just been upgraded..............AK's can easily be upgraded, that's why I like them shaaa
I can see a Beryl in that picture.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 2:20pm On Oct 21, 2017
May 18, 2014: The U.S. (directly) and Israel (indirectly) are using at least one electronic surveillance aircraft (an MC-12) to search for 223 female high school students kidnapped in April by Islamic terrorist group Boko Haram. The girls are believed to be held in some hilly forests in northeast Nigeria. The MC-12 may prove decisive in finding the girls. 

The MC-12 exists largely because American and Israeli armed forces have been sharing data and ideas for decades about how to create and use an aircraft like the MC-12. This led to the use of Beechcraft King Air twin engine commercial aircraft for electronic warfare and reconnaissance against irregular forces. That includes Taliban and Palestinian terrorists as well as Boko Haram and al Shabaab in Africa.

The MC-12 is a commercial Beechcraft King Air which can perform like a heavy (Predator or Reaper) UAV equipped for electronic warfare and crammed with vidcams, electronic sensors, jammers, and radios. This MC-12 aircraft was called Ceasar (Communications Electronic Attack with Surveillance And Reconnaissance) and could spend hours circling an area, keeping troops on the ground aware of enemy walkie-talkie and cell phone use, including location of these devices and translations of what is being discussed. The enemy is often vaguely aware of what the MC-12 can do but have no better way to communicate. Thus the few Ceasar equipped aircraft sent to Afghanistan have proved very useful for the American and British troops that used them.

Military use of the King Air arose in the United States (where Beechcraft is located) began in the early 1970s when the U.S. Army adopted the King Air as the RC-12 and then used it for a wide variety of intelligence missions ever since. Israel was made aware of this technology and developed its own versions (the Tzufit). But the Israelis had different needs and eventually developed a King Air equipped to deal with Palestinian terrorists who declared war on Israel in 2000. In the last decade Israel developed an intelligence collection version of the King Air that the U.S. began building in 2008 as the MC-12 Ceasar. This MC-12 versionincorporated vidcams, as well all the electronic monitoring gear.

In 2010 the U.S. Air Force sent its first MC-12 "manned UAV replacement" to Afghanistan and it proved successful. This despite the fact that it could only stay in action for seven hours (plus one to get to the target area) per sortie, which was half as long as a UAVs. But more UAV capabilities (vidcams overhead for hours at a time) were needed in Afghanistan, and it didn't matter if the pilots are in the air or on the ground.

The Americans also knew, as the Israelis had discovered, that the King Airs were faster than UAVs, enabling them to get where they were needed more quickly. More importantly the King Air carried more sensors than a UAV, which enabled it to be outfitted as a Ceasar aircraft. Moreover, having the equipment operators on board, along with a pilot and co-pilot available to just use their eyes on the target area, did make a difference over relying on operators elsewhere in Afghanistan, or somewhere else on the planet. That personal touch still makes a difference

In 2008 the first American MC-12 squadron was deployed to Iraq, where the twin engine aircraft was found to be durable and reliable and as useful as Israeli experience had already demonstrated. In its first six months those dozen aircraft flew over a thousand sorties in Iraq. That's about four sorties per week per aircraft. Most of the 43 MC-12s ordered have been sent to Afghanistan, where they have been worked hard and held up well to the heavy use. The arrival of these MC-12s was, in effect, the equivalent of increasing the Predator force by at least ten percent and adding a few more four engine electronic warfare aircraft (to eavesdrop on cell phones and walkies).

The MC-12 pilots require a nine week training course, which includes simulator time and twelve flights in the actual aircraft. This converts the pilot of another aircraft type (fighter, tanker, transport) to one who can handle the MC-12. The two equipment operators can do all their training on a simulator. The MC-12 itself is a modified version of the much older RC-12 electronic reconnaissance aircraft.  The MC-12 provides the same service as a UAV (full motion video) in addition to electronic monitoring (radio, cell phone, etc.). These were a big help because UAVs could not be manufactured fast enough to supply battlefield needs, so the manned MC-12s help fill the gap.

The King Air 350 is a 5.6 ton, twin engine aircraft. The MC-12 has advantages over UAVs. It can carry over a ton of sensors, several times what a Predator can haul. The MC-12 can fly higher (11 kilometers/35,000 feet) and is faster (over 500 kilometers an hour, versus 215 for the Predator). The MC-12s cost about $20 million each, more than twice what a Predator goes for. The MC-12's crew consists of two pilots and two equipment operators. The Tzufits have a crew of five. Some of the sensors are operated from the ground. The Tzufit's are earlier King Air models, and can't fly as high as the MC-12s. But Israel is a smaller place and the Tzufits are all the King Air that is needed. Moreover, the Tzufit crews fly along the Gaza and Leabanese border for years and have acquired a detailed knowledge of what is below. This makes their capabilities even greater than what the aircraft is capable of.

The King Air 350 (and earlier models) has long been used by the U.S. Army and Air Force as a light cargo and passenger transport (the C-12 Huron). The MC-12 in Nigeria probably came from those AFRICOM has deployed in Africa. Most are based in Djibouti where American and French forces have built a large special operations base since September 11, 2001.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 11:33am On Oct 21, 2017
patches689:
Nope, that would be the """"popular mobilization forces"""" (totally not, at all, in any way, whatsoever, Iranian regulars), Kurds and Iraqi regulars.
These guys were involved in getting back MOSUL.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:49am On Oct 21, 2017
newafricaken254:
some america are b@tch what need is their for their troops to be in Africa after loosing special ops,like African states asked them to come in Africa. if they can't handle being in Africa they should leave(like we showed them,we don't even need their IMF or world bank)they can't even deliver aircraft which are being paid for,we need to treat them like how Egyptians are doing and shop else where.they keep b@tching how their tech is top notch

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnI7ebtIBfI
Our leaders have eaten vegetables. Won ti je efor riro pelu iru.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:50am On Oct 21, 2017
patches689:
On an unrelated note?

Remember these assholes? Iraq's super operational operators who operated operationally in operational operations.

And got whooped by some illiterate ISL goon with a room temperature IQ.

Just goes to show: Gucci Kit =/= Gucci Moves
These same guys are getting back Iraq.
Science/TechnologyRe: Any Techpreneur Here? by tdayof(op): 10:04pm On Oct 20, 2017
QuietMynd:
sorry bro
You were talking about UAV in the other thread.
I want to ask if the UAV will be armed
Yes, armament will be done by specialist in the field. Weapons integration etc.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 4:48pm On Oct 20, 2017
Odunayaw:
Nigeria. Good stuff!!

watch out SatCom tDayoF is coming grin
Radio communication is just a stepping stone for Demfas Aerosystems. We have NAF requirements already and we're working on that. It's not something of a big deal tho in technology for us.


These kind of deals happen once in a while for the military. Talked with some Nigerians at AOC and they're willing to work on Electronic warfare. They have great resume and working esperince and some worked with some Indian firm.


So to be precise our current projects are:

Radio communication,
UAV
jamming systems and
Electronic warfare based projects.
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The electronic warfare, we're actually working on tracking phone calls to nothing less than 500M. This can be used to combat kidnapping. The guys have good success already covering up to 23KM and tracking a phone call exact location to 200M But result is not consistent yet.

You know detecting phones like 3310, tona si obe lol no easy due to their technology.

The guys are not being paid for the work. They're willing to work for the country.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris Throws More Light On Masturbation by tdayof(m): 10:15pm On Oct 18, 2017
adepeter2027:
God bless you too

Next person pls
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris Throws More Light On Masturbation by tdayof(m): 10:07pm On Oct 18, 2017
adepeter2027:
But God according to you people, created ever organs for Masturbation.

BTW, since it's my body, it shouldn't be a sin. Cos to me, it's not sin
Do you just stay and masturbate? No. What causes masturbation? Lust, ungodly thoughts etc.


Now, a certain sin(lust, ungodly thoughts etc) leads to masturbation. Sin is sin. . Masturbation is wrong.


God bless you.
Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 10:37am On Oct 18, 2017
nemesis4u:
things r not that rosy

5 years ago most graduates post graduates and doctorate students would end in America and Europe

due to govt apathy there was enormous brain drain , pass outs would find it difficult to get jobs in drdo etc but end up easily as lecturers , asstt professors in MIT cal tech ivy league colleges etc undecided

then there was the problem of funding and bureaucratic nepotism in educational institutes

over the years many of these problems have sorted out to a good extent , still lot needs to be done

but results r showing, brain drain has been reversed to some extent.

corporates, defence PSUs , etc have started to fund and support projects , well Rome was not built in a day

well it might surprise u few Africans r working in projects of national importance , we need to draw foreign talent more and engage them in competition with the local ones for better results

everybody has brains all u need is money , infrastructure and a vision which spans decades

higher level educational institutes at post graduate and doctoral levels takes decades to mature and produce tangible results

most of the IITS etc were established in the 60/70s

the difference between theoretical and practical knowledge is due to lack of infrastructure , if u dont have the infrastructure / equipment's to implement ur theoretical knowledge , students cant be blamed

a electronic engineer without access to a foundry is clueless in real world application

dont worry ur country and any country for the matter which is serious about education will get there

just need to pressure the politicians or kick their ass grin


ps did u come across Indian faculty in ur Chinese institute ?
In Nigeria, money isn't an issue at all. The money is readily available but then the funds will end up in a controversial issues.


I understand your point about facility. In Nigeria it's about priority. We do not considering hi-tech as a priority. We prefer opening up medical research facilities.


What people fail to understand is that a military industrial complex or technology will surely influence civil based technology. If you posses a military based communication technology, it's definitely going to be useful in civilian applications.


We keep building medical facilities therefore leaving the engineering manufacturing sector alone.


Frumentius or someone said there are more Nigerian nuclear physicist in CSIR than in the nigerian best university.


Another fact is that there are more nigerian born medical personnel in Europe than in Nigeria.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:17am On Oct 18, 2017
andrewza:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_France#/media/File%3AFrance_in_the_World_(%2BAntarctica_claims).svg





Every thing there is france
Thanks, never knew France also has some overseas territory.

However without Chad, Cameroon and others they won't be able to do much in projecting power if they have to depend on their overseas territory in Africa.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:50am On Oct 18, 2017
lionel4power:
Russia has the best armed force in Syria followed by the Iranian Army then the Syrians come third in that order.


This is wonderful...
The Russians have a good record in Syria but damn these guys aren't reacting well to US provocations therefore making them look like a barking dog.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:47am On Oct 18, 2017
andrewza:
America does not physically own terrorty in Middle East or Asia. People forget France still has part of it in Africa that are seen has France. Has in people born there are French. Not just a few bases here and there but full on populations.
Part of France in Africa still considered as France? Please where's that?
Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 9:44am On Oct 18, 2017
Nemesis4u, you have universities with intense defense reseach which are being implemented by DRDO?

I wish something like that is possible here. Private universities don't even know what they're doing. Alot of students sucks in practical, theoretical, they're the best in class. If you can't implement your theoretical knowledge into something practical then I consider it ineffective.


UGV, advanced robotics and sensor should be something universities should have intense research on.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:39am On Oct 18, 2017
andrewza:
They best equipped, trained and supported milltary in Africa with years of all most non stop combat experience fighting in Africa.
So we can say the United States has the beat military in the middle east, and one of the best in Asia?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 7:58am On Oct 17, 2017
giles14:
everyone is buying from Brazil,why den is Nigeria shopping from uncle Sam
Nigeria is paying with looted funds.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 12:49am On Oct 17, 2017
QuietMynd:
Six more statue to be commissioned.

Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 12:39am On Oct 16, 2017
lipsrsealed
nemesis4u:
trying to do a U2 maybe
They've got some funny looking aircrafts. I'll love to know how they behave aerodynamically.

Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 12:31am On Oct 16, 2017
nemesis4u:
most probably a TD

u forgot to give the description

odunayaw is waiting on his hummerfeet so dont keep him waiting grin

fuucckers here struggling with one plane and others make them for breakfast angry
Scaled composites owns the aircraft. Heard its stealthy I guess in design and probably materials.
Foreign AffairsRe: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 12:09am On Oct 16, 2017
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Foreign AffairsRe: article by tdayof(m): 10:22pm On Oct 15, 2017
MiddleDimension:
tdayof

你能叫那个中国人在这里吗?
他是尼日利亚人。 he's on NL, I'm sure he'll translate whenever he's free.
Foreign AffairsRe: article by tdayof(m): 8:28pm On Oct 15, 2017
That's some long article and the grammar ehn.

If he's free, I'm sure he can translate for you.

Cc:chukxie
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 5:56pm On Oct 15, 2017
MiddleDimension:
不在家里面好好休息

this means he is not at home, so calm down

sorry for the off topic post
Yes, that's the meaning. 你说汉语吗?

I only used the gif expression.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 12:38am On Oct 15, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
Crocodile smile II is an ongoing field training exercise in the Nigerian army 81 division area of responsibility.
Last picture. SBS?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 8:44pm On Oct 14, 2017
Odunayaw:
ewo re bayii gringrin
Straight to letmuck cantonment.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 8:30pm On Oct 14, 2017
It's okay guys.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 7:41pm On Oct 14, 2017
jln115:
Bro Henry240 claimed it can withstand 23mm round .......nowhere in the entire video did i here anybody mention 23mm or 14.5 mm
rounds(Sound quality was fcking sh1t though)........then the rest of his band wagon hopped one"but Stanag 4, but its stanag 4" not realizing it was referring to mine protection not ballistic protection.
Did you watch the video? Just like Henry said, can you tell us what sort of caliber is an AA round?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 6:45pm On Oct 14, 2017
ssaengine:
Mistake you're making is assuming everyone here is an accountant. You already admitted you don't know much about bullets/guns....so when you type "has stanag 1 level protection" you are literally just typing letters without even knowing what you're saying grin grin
I don't know much about guns or bullet doesn't mean some little things can't be realized. You know you once made mention of where you work here? It's not like you work as a technical engineer in an armoring company to know better than a manufacturer.


To be sincere, a CPL holder knows more about a 747 than Kevin McAllister.


My own take on this is that without any fact, you can't contradict a manufacturers specifications. Integrity is needed in a business , knowing how many orders are in stake.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 6:31pm On Oct 14, 2017
Henry240:
PF Proforce ARA MRAP
The pf 2 has as stanag level 1 protection. See them internet engineers up there. Proforce has been into armoring since 2008 and you think they don't know what 23mm means grin grin


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