Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:09pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
ojeysky: Still available for sale Boss Una no dey sell fully coupled 150AH or 230AH LFP for single 12 volt? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 8:22pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Valto: u should take it easy with the rep. they work according to instructions given to them. btw, because of present realities(inflation, foreign exchange e.t.c)prices of goods can change within few hrs, talkless of 2days. Okay boss |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 5:18pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
herrlekan: I don't know the model number but I believe if they have more than one inverter of the same specifications, I would have been give at least two prices.
You can call Michael, his number is in the screenshot. You see, it's 123k I was also told, but the female rep now telling me 125k this evening. Sometimes the fear of women is the beginning of wisdom. Even though 2k different is not much, but it says a lot about top brand. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 5:07pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Juror: That's odd, I got the 132k quote this morning also from them or isn't it the FL-IVPS1512 , 12V 1.5kVA? I didn't ask for series. I only asked "how much is the current price for 1.5Kva inverter"? And was told 125,000. If they are telling prospective clients various prices for same item, then what Oga Valto said /guess about they lithium/Lifepo4 battery might be correct! |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 4:54pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Juror: Are you sure it's 123k or rather 132k ? Please confirm. My brother 100% sure bro. That's the price I was told. But today around few minutes to 4pm, another of they sales rep chatted me and when I enquired again about the price, she said 125k, but I told her that's not the price I was told, that I was told 123k. Then she requested I send her the number, behold when I check the number she used in calling me I found out the same number called me two days ago but I didn't save it as there are hundreds of calls after then. She said that's an old price that her boss gave me wholesale price. But am surprised why her boss will not know the current price. But she pleaded we continue the conversation tomorrow as she has closed because it's now pass 4pm. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:45pm On Sep 14, 2022 |
coldcandy: Pls drop Felicity contact. I need their lifepo4 battery Felicity Solar Nig Ltd -> +234 812 103 2394 |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:39pm On Sep 14, 2022 |
gadgetplanetng: You can get this info from the person you called? gadgetplanetng: You can get this info from the person you called? I chatted them on WhatsApp and they called with different number which I forgot to save. Maybe I will chat them again, but since Oga Niyi has first hand experience, I believe some information are better gotten from experts/experience user rather than sales person. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:28pm On Sep 14, 2022 |
dollarnaira: It has tey o  July 9, 2021 Bought from a user who upgraded. Oh I see, the price go don skyrocket by now. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:43pm On Sep 14, 2022 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: You contacted the official Nigeria representative for price and you are still looking for a credible source?
The 300% surge rating is a common claim made by inverters of that form factor so nothing unique to Felicity or TBB.
Measuring idle/no load draw is a bit of a misnomer since no one just keeps the inverter on with zero loads - the charger can be set to run while the unit is off if your plan is to use it for charging batteries and not run loads off it. Boss just asking, you know this thing better. Felicity specifically stated that it surge is 200%. I believe you have first hand experience on the Felicity, can you please tell if the 1.5kva shows battery percentage and hour/time of usage left? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:38pm On Sep 14, 2022 |
dollarnaira: Small 105A Okay boss, can you please tell how much you purchase it and from which source? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:14am On Sep 14, 2022 |
dollarnaira: Lol
Fear of LifePO4 is aggressively overhyped. U dont v a bms for detecting d fuel gauge of generators, cars, etc use coner eye check and it ends there. My opinion o. My LifePO4 hardly do 12.9v sef. Boss what is the capacity in AH? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:10am On Sep 14, 2022 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: The Felicity 1.5Kva 12v sells for less than 125K from credible sources boss - this is a smart inverter with fully flexible voltage and LVD settings in the box.
It may be deliberate unfairness to compare 'company price' of one item with 'JUMIA price' of the other especially also comparing 1.2Kva TBB with 1.5Kva Felicity.
Anyways, whoever has need can pickup the inverters they find fits their needs best. Boss you are very correct, I contacted them yesterday and was told it sells for 123k and warranty is 1 year. Do you have idea if credible sources price are lesser? Why is Jumia seller placing 170k on something of 123k. Naija which way! |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:07am On Sep 14, 2022 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: I have been following this TBB matter with some interest.
I do not know what special benefits the TBB has but Felicity sell fully user programmable units all the way from 1.5Kva to 10kva. Below 5kva there are 12v and 24v models. The ability to program your inverter to your taste comes fully available out of the box.
Apart from very good after sales service, you can set flexible charge voltages (absorb and float) and even flexible LVD on these Felicity units making them suitable for lead acid and Lithium.
The above should satisfy entry level needs robustly I do not know if there is any extra advantage to these dumber seeming TBBs? Could it be price perhaps? Perhaps it's the 300% Surge, Zero load power of 10W & 2 years warranty. Boss do you know the idle consumption of Felicity 1.5kva? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 3:29am On Sep 13, 2022 |
Valto: sorry,12v 230ah is not available.i cant sell 4pcs
your tbb inverter can be set at thier office to charge at specific voltage. Noted bro, thanks. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 3:20am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Valto: Assembled with high quality brand new EVE 230ah lifepo4 cells, DALY Bluetooth bms and thick metal box. Oga Valto how much will fully assembled 12.8v 230ah LFP cost?
Also, is "lifepo4 lithium battery fast charger" required when tbb 1.2kva inverter with 40a will be used? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:05am On Sep 09, 2022 |
netotse: Sey you have deleted that post where you shaded us sha?  Boss I no understand this grammar oh, abeg break am down. BTW wetin the post contain? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 10:59pm On Sep 07, 2022 |
IRAPADA: I bought for 40k on jumia,it 30a mppt Thank God for google search strings that led me to this thread, The knowledge gained here and reading from other Google related reference site is sufficient to make right decision. That Solar Talker pwm tagged Mppt was my preferred charge controller months ago until u found this thread. I appreciate all who have helped so far knowledge wise, may God reward you all. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:27pm On Sep 07, 2022 |
Juror: Yes you can specify battery type and some other parameters directly on the inverter using the dip switch combinations but this doesn't still give you the flexibility of setting the voltages.
No VCC doesn't take care of that. Temperature affects the battery charging process, the TBB inverter comes with a temperature sensor which would be attached to the battery and enables the inverter to adjust the charging voltage based on the battery temperature. That's what that part you share is referring to. It's noted bro |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 3:26pm On Sep 06, 2022 |
Juror: Equalization isn't for all batteries, just for flooded batteries and the batteries used in that installation wasn't flooded. Specifying the battery type and [b]setting the required voltage[/b]s had to be done at the point of purchase and that's the major disadvantage of the tbb inverter, except you decide to buy the display. Thanks, but you can actually specify the battery type (this will adjust the charging capacity by 15% of total battery capacity selected), set low voltage disconnect and perform equalization all from the Central Panel (i.e. the inverter itself without display monitor) when you remove the screws. Voltage compensated charging (VCC): Through separately installed VS (battery voltage sensor), Energier pro Inverter Charger Combination could automatically adjust its output compensating the voltage drop on the cable assuring the full charging through delivering the right voltage to battery. This VCC should take care of the bolded right?
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Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:44am On Sep 05, 2022 |
Juror: For the load on inverter, You may need external peripherals for that. For example, add a wattmeter or limiter that gives details of output voltage and current. That's what I did for an installation with TBB inverter.
And you may be asking for too much when asking for how long the battery would take to charge full or how long it'll last. Most inverters don't provide this information too, you may be able to estimate it based on other devices & plugins (Charge controller that logs, BMS that communicates, in-line amp meters etc etc )or history.
Possibly your next question would be to ask for Charge controllers that logs etc? lol
While not intending to ruin your parade, I hope you don't end up in a questioning loop/abyss. You need to take a decision based on the myriads of information provided to you(for some weeks now) while taking into consideration your constraints (budget, load, environment). Okay thanks. But how were you able to perform equalization and specify the battery type (e.g. flooded or SMF) to be used with this inverter? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 4:32pm On Sep 03, 2022 |
odimbannamdi: It mustn't be stated. You should be able to set it manually by yourself.
The Pow Mr CC, for instance, has profiles for different battery types. Within each battery profile, you can also set the floating and absorption voltages. You can choose as high 16.0v as floating voltage and 17.0v as absorption voltage. But i honestly don't know which of the stated profiles should suit tubular batteries. I am guessing Sealed thiugh. Hopefully, veterans will clarify. Understand nwanne nwoke, gracias! |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 4:31pm On Sep 03, 2022 |
Penuelseun: No, I didn't get those devices, I went directly to their office, told them what I wanted and they programed the inverter appropriately After they programed it, how do you manage to know (how long the battery will last you, how long it will take to charge full and the percentage of load the inverter has carried)? Sorry for these questions oh, but I just need clarity based on the fact that you have first hand experience on the tbb. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:40am On Sep 03, 2022*. Modified: 7:46pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: So without meaning to rain on your parade, it is entirely possible to get confused in a multitude of counsel - you have received info from so many contributors here that I fear you may make a suboptimal decision when/if all that sound advise freely given is not interpreted in the right context.
Please may I suggest you retable your needs simply as below;
My load is averagely """"300 """"""watts (consisting of a, b, c appliances). I am looking for a system that will give me ?X hours of backup with the primary battery recharge source being PHCN or Gen or Solar ??. I already decided to use 12v flooded batteries so I just need help choosing a matching inverter/ solar charge controller and other accessories. I have no plans of upgrading the system in the next X ? months/years
This should help you much better to get all your support in one place and in a format you can safely use. DIY is sweet but there is a framework required as a base to do it properly. My Load: 1. LG 32” LED Full HD TV 32LP500BPTA - this will be on for (6 - 8hrs on weekdays), & (8 - 12hrs on weekends) 2. HP 620 Laptop - this will be used Max 4hrs per day at 2hrs each usage then unplug when full to use laptop battery for 3hrs before charging again for another 2hrs if I still want to use it. 3. AKT 20 Watts Energy Bulb (4 Pieces) - only two will be on at a time. Note: If 20W is too much I can discard them to purchase lower watts that will also give maximum brightness. 4. LG 7kg Washing Machine (200W to Max 360W) - this will be used Max 2 hours per day twice a week. Note: When it's been use other appliances can go off. 5. Hisense Top Mount Defrost 204L Refrigerator DRB-205 (0.9A & 220v - 240v) - this will be powered for 3 - 4hrs only if there's no light for 48hrs straight. Note: Other appliances can go off when using this. (Optional Load) 6. 60" ORL Ceiling Fan - I can ignore this as there's Qasa 18" fan with 20W panel to take care of this and it last days on a single charge, as a matter of fact it has never run down anyday. 7. LG Xboom CJ44 Audio Deck - I do not intend to power this with the inverter as when the volume is increased I know it will certainly drain the battery faster cause it's so loud. (NOT NEEDED) Electric Hot stove double plate - this is same as the image posted by ojeysky some previous pages. Binatone Cool Guard reads that this is 1000W+ for the small plate but I DO NOT INTEND TO POWER THIS WITH INVERTER. General Note: My focus is on 1 - 5, but if calculations can also be done to include 5&6 it will be appreciated. PHCN Power Supply (2am - 5am) & (8am - 11am). Primary battery recharge source could be PHCN & Gen or PHCN & Solar. I have no plan upgrading in the next 3yrs. I do not wish to install myself (but I want to buy everything and call an installer to install them. But I should know what he's doing at each stage. I wish to use 12v 220ah Luminous Tubular battery, but a better Lead Acid battery can be recommended. I need help choosing a matching inverter (possibly the one that can display load percentage & battery backup/charge time and if possible also have editable charge voltage/current), solar charge controller and other accessories (including cable size, DC fuse/Breakers, battery rack if relevant e.t.c) Also recommend the generator size that can charge the battery via inverter on raining days and in the absence of PHCN. If the amount of everything including installation can be stated it would be appreciated. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:10am On Sep 03, 2022 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: If you have an inverter that can put out 40a per 12v 220Ah battery then certainly you do not need an extra standalone charger.
Your inverter at 40a can already refill your single 220Ah battery within 4 to 8 hours which is fast enough. The math here is not linear as there is how deep the battery was discharged as well as the physics of absorb and float charge stages to consider.
You should never run the battery empty neither should you charge it too fast - about 30a is the max that should go into a single flooded 12v 220Ah battery so you are in a good place with your inverter alone. Thanks boss 30a Max is noted. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 6:23am On Sep 02, 2022 |
Penuelseun: I think it will be better if you send them a mail I chatted them on WhatsApp but they said "Cyber System Monitor" has some of the features I mentioned, while "Vison Lite Monitor System" can be used to program params. So I deduced, perhaps it's both device that can give the needed features. I asked myself if I must get those display meters/monitors to get what I want. But on afterthought, I remembered (Luminous Optimus 1100VA 12V) can equally give the first, second, third features listed at a lesser price if you combined the price of tbb + display meter/monitors. Then I was asking myself if tbb route is worth it just for the sake of the fridge. I read some reviews online where user complained that "Luminous Optimus 1100VA 12V" is a bit noisy during usage, coupled with the fact that it's rated 924W so still don't know if it would carry the fridge posted earlier as that's the only appliance that I am considering. Although "Elepaq Sv2200 1.2kva" could not carry the fridge but I know elepac overrate they Gen capacity reasons best known to them. Please when you were using the tbb 1.2kv, did you get those device(s) alongside? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 3:18am On Sep 02, 2022 |
Penuelseun: You can trigger equalization voltage yourself by raising the battery voltage to between 15.5v and 16v for about 3hrs maybe monthly depending on usage. It is not a must for it to be stated there Oh I see, thanks bro for the enlightenment |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:46am On Sep 02, 2022 |
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Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:45am On Sep 02, 2022 |
Penuelseun: It is stated there clearly na, that the voltage can be adjusted from 12v to 17v I asked because it was not clearly stated that it does equalization. |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 9:01pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: At 40a per 12v 220Ah battery you should have more than enough especially if your primary charge source will be solar.
The next thing to make sure of is that your inverter and solar charger have editable charge voltage settings or at worst a charge profile selection that is suitable for your flooded batteries - on average flooded batteries need 14.6v or more per 12v and most basic inverters are incapable of getting to that voltage level. Bro abeg help me look if this Output specification -> "Vented/ Sealed / Gel / NiCd / Lithium battery(defined voltage for other battery by user)" means editable charge voltage settings Does this mean MakeSkyBlue can not work for flooded/tubular? -> Suitable for battery types of sealed lead acid, vented Gel, and Lithium battery Attached images are the description from https://makeskyblue.com/collections/solar-controller/products/60a-mppt-solar-charge-controller
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Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:31pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
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Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:24pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: At 40a per 12v 220Ah battery you should have more than enough especially if your primary charge source will be solar.
The next thing to make sure of is that your inverter and solar charger have editable charge voltage settings or at worst a charge profile selection that is suitable for your flooded batteries - on average flooded batteries need 14.6v or more per 12v and most basic inverters are incapable of getting to that voltage level. Boss my primary charge for now could be Grid/Gen, do I still need standalone charger? Do you have idea if PowMr 60A MPPT or MakeSkyBlue 60A MPPT have editable charge voltage settings? |
Satellite TV Technology › Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 4:36pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
samir101ng: Apologies but Epever doesn't seem to have an official store on AliExpress. However, you can check out the Powmr Official Store i posted and amongst the products on sale in that store you will see Epever charge controllers from the same vendor. If your interested in Fangpusun Charge Controllers, Inverters kindly check out their official store also:
1. Wenzhou Xihe Electric Co., Ltd. (Fangpusun)
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/535617?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.41d87223hKBIUT
Fangpusun products are chinese clones of reputable brands like Victron, Studer & Outback but they give decent performance for the price range more than some unnamed chinese brands. Their firmware maybe out of date compared to the original which affects performance. Noted bro thanks. |