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Since you’ve said abiogenesis is not the truth, are you consenting that it’s a lie. This only truth and lie. There’s nothing like educated guess in reality. Something either exists or it doesn’t.

Also, the idea that aliens exists is ridiculous. It’s for children. I think those who believe it have just watched too many cartoon to think efficiently.

Lastly, I’m telling you that it’ll be impossible for humans to exists if plant had already existed. This goes beyond evolution.

Workch:
exactly, no evidence for it. Just like it's logical that aliens exist elsewhere based in probabilities but we can't still find thr evidence because are limited by technology. We are limited by many things to actually find the mechanism that abiogenesis took.
yes

we don't think abiogenesis is true. Don't get it wrong.
Abiogenesis is a hypothesis, an educated guess that is very plausible. In science, hypothesis are not taken as truth until evidence is available to test it. So abiogenesis is smart guess but it's not fact yet.
Don't misconstrue it.


nope, combination of Gases did not make humans exist, it made the first organism to exist. The constant change in this combination gave rise to other organisms that posses the features to adapt to the environment inlcuodng humans.
Do you actually understand the rudiments of evolution or do you mind if I explain it do you?
I'm asking because you are sounding so naive about how it works

You’re only imagining these things in your head. You’re only imagining that CO2 was so much in the atmosphere at one point. This imagination will hinder you from thinking straight my friend. Have you thought that perhaps, CO2 have always been the same?

Can see how you’re creating a scenario in your head and assuming that that is how life started? A tank full of CO2 as if CO2 is the only gas in existence.

Workch:
I don't see how the existence of plants and the destabilization of CO2 would mean thsy animals cannot exist.
Animals would not have existed in an atmosphere that is over-concentrated with CO2. The emergence of plants was the reason why the CO2 drop and concomitantly releasing oxygen that enabled the existence of animals.

Look at it this way: if you have a tank filled with CO2 only, if a plant capable of surviving emerges, it will start photosynthezing hence to release oxygen. The oxygen release by the plants will be what will enable the emergence of animals.
Then the animals will start production CO2 in return to make sure that the CO2 in the tank is not exhausted so the plants can also survive as well.

Thank you for taking your time to answer my question. I really appreciate it.

So your points are these:

1. Abiogenesis is logical yet there’s no evidence for it.
2. Plane came first bc the blast of chemical reaction that occurred made CO2 available.

So here are my follow up question with respect to your points.

1. Since we think abiogenesis is true even though we have no evidence to prove it, does that means abiogenesis is merely a belief we accept to be true without any reasonable evidence? Does that mean we’re employing religious system of belief to establish it?

2. Do you realise that there billion possible combinations of atmospheric gases yet the single one that can allow human to exist came to be.
—-Do you realise that if plants had already existed before animals and humans, they will destabilise the atmospheric CO2, making it impossible for humans & animals to exist. How do you think we came to exist?

Workch:
yes, abiogenesis has to be the cause of life logically, because life cannot just keep popping from another life ad-infinitum, however, we still do not understand the mechanism hence still don't have evidence for it
I don't know what this got to do with abiogenesis but Carbon dioxide (CO2) has been present in the atmosphere since the Earth condensed from a ball of hot gases following its formation from the explosion of a huge star about five billion years ago. The availability of carbondioxide is the natural selection that caused the first photosynthetic oraganims (archeans) and plants to emanate. These photosynthetic oraganims then release oxygen into the atmosphere that later caused animals to evolve.
plants came first bec2 the chemical reactions from the formation of earth and volcanic activities already made carbondioxide available for plants to thrive.

I have this question for you:

If evolution is true, you you’ll also imagine abiogenesis to be true. If that’s the case, how did plant survive millions of years without humans and animals, especially bc they need our CO2? Conversely, if you think animals came first, how did they survive also seeing the need plant Oxygen?.

Nope, it’s not. Jesus didn’t make good morning yet he prospered in all ramifications

I almost fell into the pit of thinking Paul was a false prophet. The enemy almost made me believe it but I thank God today I see it clearer.

It was never Paul but Constantine who is causing every problem in Christendom. Paul’s writing writing are true but Constantine who claimed to have an almost similar experience with Paul turned his message upside down.

The problem we have is not from Paul but from Catholicism. It’s the Catholic that have every mundane mindset that has filtered through the message. But thank God for the gift of the Holy Spirit, he is always teaching up the truth.

Still waiting a first answer to this across all platforms.

As part of my next project to release a new book later this month, I have been asking a question every day to see how broad we perceive life and the truth

Question of the day:

What does it mean when Jesus said: I beheld Satan as lightening fall from heaven - Luke 10:18

1. Satan had already fallen and Jesus experienced it before coming.

2. Jesus only saw it in a vision as something to happen soon.

Choose an answer and tell us why you think your perspective is the truth.

There’s a few things.

1. Eve didn’t make Adam eat fruits because if a man is not already desiring to do a thing, the woman would always suggest but he’ll not do that things. This is evident that even though Job’s wife earnestly besought him to curse God and his righteousness, he didn’t do it.
2. Satan’s operation is earthly and there are no evil in the heavenly realms as we believed. When God asked Satan where he’s coming from, he said earth where he was working tirelessly.
3. Adam lied when God asked him about the commandments in the beginning. He was afraid of the consequence of his action which is death, so he concealed the truth. This is why every Adamic entity fears death bc it’s an inherited behavior —Job 31:33
4. Satan is not an angel of God as popularly propelled by many bc when he sons of God gathered, Satan with his aimlessness and unruliness joined them even though he’s not one of them. This is why he was even questioned in the first place.
5. Man’s righteousness is futile unless man has come to know who God is.

recklesslove:
Bible scholars pls educate me oh.

You know you really don’t want to learn anything

HellVictorinho6:
or being unspecific like Techobeys

Why are you tagging me? I’m not here often. I have told you when you’re ready to learn biblical truth, reach out to me. Otherwise do your thing.

HellVictorinho6:
this is not specific

Whenever you’re ready sir

HellVictorinho6:
where are u taking me to?

To a place of higher understanding

HellVictorinho6:
i was invited. then became a member after baptism. i did mention to two of the church workers that my faith had experienced issues but they were like you can still find out more about our father in heaven. well, i became a member to see how the church operates. i am now wondering if they should reject me when i say i still cannot find anyone or anything divine.

Are you sure you’re not seeing or you just do not want to see? Would you like to learn? I can take you on a teaching session that will help you arrive at the destination if you’re willing.

jaephoenix:
I am open to learning if you have palpable data, not hearsays

I do have palpable data but I do not think it’s wise to give it to you. If you have something very precious, you have to make sure the person who you want to give it to will cherish it and build on it. So dear friend, pardon me if I look away from you. Do have a wonderful day. Like I said, subscribe to my channel, perhaps you get lucky and catch me teaching about it.

Watch this pls

Watch this video pls.

Watch this video pls

jaephoenix:
Can you tell us the correct story, sir

Of course I could, but I have to know if you want to learn what I know or you just want to waste my time. I really don’t have much of that, and I will really appreciate that whoever asks me to explain a particular subject is willing to do a more comprehensive study on whatever I give them. I have stopped speaking on Nairaland bc it’s more of the desire argue on here than it’s the need desire to learn.

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This exactly is the problem. The story you just recounted is not biblical. People create an unreasonable story then become perplexed bc they don’t understand it. That’s the problem. If you take time to study the Bible, it’ll be clear.

Nigerians is one of the most prayerful people on earth, yet Nigerians are very scared of village people, voodoo, witches and wizard and even the devil. Why are they scared despite all the prayers.

However, if you do this one thing, the devil will avoid you, infact, witches will be scared of you.
REVEALED! Do this and Devil will run from you. #biblestudy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwTzQNMGgs

Is the devil scared of our prayers? Would he leave us alone if we fasted? The devil tempted Jesus after he fasted and prayed for 40days. He also rose in war against Daniel after Daniel fasted and prayed for weeks.This indicates that the devil is not perturbed by our prayers. Watch this video to learn that one thing that the devil fears. Don’t forget to subscribe and share with friends and family.

REVEALED! Do this and Devil will run from you. #biblestudy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwTzQNMGgs

In this video, we are looking at the character of the devil and understanding the one thing he fears.

The devil came to tempt Jesus after he had prayed and fasted for 40days, and rose against Daniel after similar activity. It appears he’s not affected by these activities.

Watch this video to learn that one thing the devil fears. Don’t forget to subscribe and share it so that others can learn.

REVEALED! Do this and Devil will run from you. #biblestudy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwTzQNMGgs

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LandMann:
Stop being stupid. The dead are DEAD. . no memories, feelings or ability to comprehend or understand when you're dead.

Have you died before? Don’t you think it’s stupid for you to make such conclusion?

jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there are were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

Do you understand that the premise of your argument centres on the assumption that satan is not a man? And if satan is a man then your argument is as erroneous as the one you’re trying to counter.

I just needed you to put that into perspective bc just as you’re trying to claim to be right than others, certain people are looking at you like an ignorant person who says what he has not understanding of.

Overall, I do not have interest in this conversation so there’s no need to reply me pls, I just needed you to see your own bias so you may see that you’re only right in your own eyes but not right in reality. So try to be patient with others to grow to your level of understanding bc there are many who know you’re making an unlearned argument who do not also call you out for it. Let’s all grow in Christ to a place of perfect understanding.