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Gulak said, “Governor Amaechi did not consult the President before inviting APC leaders to Rivers State and giving them tumultuous welcome.  So, he does not need to consult the President before joining APC because he knows that the President will not allow any PDP member to go to the APC.

True words. He did not consult before inviting opposition, he should not consult before joining them.

APC is looking for people to outsource to as usual. They are never capable.

My real interest is to see what APC will do if Amaechi eventually remains in PDP.
Will they still call him a progressive?

ngozievergreen: Bicourtney is fraud.
Stella's transformation agenda was going to affect Bicourtney badly but the Yoruba fraudster and owners started sponsoring SR to rub.bish stella.
Now, how many yorubas have spoken against Bicourtney?
.
Nonsense.

Hello, I'm not so conversant with the Bicourtney issue (specifically, how it relates to Oduah's transformation in the sector), please post some link so I can educate myself. I may be wrong but I think Oduah's policies are impacting negatively on a APC financier, off-course, I may be wrong but it's politics and its not impossible.

Thanks in advance.

teeo: What is the point Alleged corruption should be overlooked abi

I'm not saying so my brother. I'm saying it should not be selective.
If we must probe corruption we must do it to all corrupt officials including Tinubu.
More so, we must do it with the same vigour!

teeo: oya since February and the car would now protect her in August Abi

That's not the point. Was there a vow to fight her to standstill at all?
Also, was the car bought in August?
Mind you, I do not think the price for purchase was right.

I'm thinking APC's Nairaland and other fora propaganda machinery has been contracted to Sahara Reporters
See usernames and id's flying here and there.
They open a thread, before you have 10 comments, it hits front page.

Whereas many other important threads are all over the forum unknown.

teeo: At least Dora wasn't attacked by Yoruba's it was her own kinsmen who attempted to assassinate her. Dora got thousands of threats but until an actual one was carried out she didn't get the "sophisticated" auto. I hope you know you can't compare the alleged threats Stella claim to be receiving to that of Dora

Did you get the part where he mentioned Sobowale's threat since February?
I bet you, if Dora was perceived as a threat to SW interest, the same or even worse would have happened.

Why am I feeling these Yorobah boys that were sacked for incompetence put some holes in the roof as instructed by their Sahara Reporters propaganda machinery?

When FFK was there, was there roof at all?

I laugh when I see these Yorobah boys campaigning and defending Ngige and APC on the pages of Nairaland.
I thought they have been calling the SE gully ravaged village and they have asked Igbos to return to their village.

Yorobah folks should ensure they cast their votes for Ngige oh. You can cast your vote in Nairaland, the only problem is that it will not count in Anambra state.

NO LONG TIN: LWKMD

Are you aware PDP has party guidelines? If they could disobey it, why do you think they wouldn't disobey that of APC's

Or are you under the impression they would become saint because they moved to APC?

I'm not for or against the governors, i just want you to understand that APC isn't the alternative we want, they are just another political party like PDP that are only after their interest and not Nigerians'.


If APC could recruit supposed corrupt/inept leaders just to win an election, imagine what they would do on election day (bribery, rigging, killing etc)

Thank you for your unbiased approach to analyzing the politics of APC.
I sound like GEJ supporter a lot of times because of my disdain for APC hypocrisy.
I truly desire a vibrant opposition and APC I thought during the last election would be one. Nay, they have become just another PDP.

How can a so called disciplined Buhari team up with Tinubu in the first place. To worsen the situation, he is wooing supposedly corrupt PDP governors to join him. It's amazing what they sell to their gullible supporters!

NO LONG TIN: This is funny! It's like APC feels that Nigerians are dumb.


How can APC after claiming and shouting to the world that their governors are doing better than others, infact in some instances they claim PDP Governors are not doing anything other than stealing money, yet they go around begging for these same people to join them. All of a sudden the PDP Governors are performing!!!


If GEJ or OBJ says he wants to join them (APC), Akande and Co would claim he is the best president and all sorts

That's why I keep saying PDP and APC are birds of the same feathers in different nest, they are after their own pockets and not nigerians'.





A progressive party would want to disassociate themselves from the supposed bad/corrupt leaders they claim killed our nation, No matter what they stand to gain from them

Recruiting 'bad or corrupt' leaders because you want to win an election says a lot about you as a person/party.

For now, I support GEJ and Fashola, any other person is a 'politician' - only after their selfish gain.



I have an interesting question for Buhari, Tinubu and Co, if the G7 governors decide against joining them, will they still be term 'performing governors' or will they term corrupt?

Your guess is as good as mine. They become corrupt again.
In fact any decampee from APC automatically seizes to be "progressive". They suddenly become corrupt.

emiye: The situation is not analogous to voting criminals

Lobbying 7 state governors to join their fold is in the best interest of the party, the new entrants will be guided by the parties guidelines.

The stiffer the opposition, the more likely the incumbent will be on his/her toes to perform.

We will gradually get to the era where the electorates will be sophisticated to identify change and vote for it.

Simply preaching change and throwing very fresh faces will hardly fly with the core nigerian electorates, it is an idealistic stand.

So what happens when APC get into power? Will they fight corruption?
If they will, what will happen to the G7 governors some of whom are confirmed corrupt bunches?

Please bro, stop this twisted defense, I'm smarter than that.
Your defense only strengthens my perception of APC and their supporters as hypocrites.

Rhino.5dm:
So, national conference will now stop us from observing our norms and traditions? Just get the hell out to your village, where nobody can stop your from roaming about nakked.

You my friend is a child. Grow up.

Your tradition, and mine too, should not supersede the National Constitution that has given a Nigerian freedom of movement and religion.

If a man can tell every body to sit inside and you can shout "go back to your village" like a child, we need a constitution of the people if we must leave together.

bakynes: FYI the Yorubas were the one that first clamoured for a National conference after the June 12 Election was annulled.

What then happened to Tinubu and the APC 40 thieves?

emiye: it goes beyond the simplistic perspective you want to take.

Have you seen a politician while campaigning for a seat saying something like 'if you are a criminal or a thief or scammer do not vote for me'.

A politician needs the support and vote of all (criminals inclusive), it is how he manages the criminal /thief/scammer when he finally gets to the seat.

There's a difference in asking criminals to vote for you and voting for criminals!

Sincerely, I do not believe in APC but if they can get into power, we should be expecting them to probe and prosecute all corrupt current and former politicians. (APC, PDP or any other party).
But if you say they are corrupt and that we should vote for change, how can you then use the same corrupt people to form your core?
And then hand over your state structure to them.

I cannot be deceived!

emiye: Politics is a game of numbers. If Deserted PDP members are suspected to have throngs of supporters, such members are tactically embraced, how the APC will manage such new entrants is the true test.

There is also the psychological blow from APC to the decampees former party, (PDP), when it "snatches" such members.

This is why Nigeria will hardly change.

You cannot claim someone is a thief and then ask him to join you in delivering justice.

moodswing: The Yoruba's own a greater percentage of Nigeria's print media. Peddling lies and propaganda is definitely secured.

The APC governors are monumental failures, but who would write about it?, the APC anti GEJ press?.

Only a liberated minds are competent enough to identify facts and hold a valid opinion.

Y'all gullible people are either ignorant or posses senseless thinking as a rault of contaminated media content you digest from every malicious source.

My friend, they can only lie to people who are not on ground in the SW.

We have a long way.

The only good I'll take from this if it's true is that, it's making whoever is in office sit up.

Chillisauce: Keep recycling.

PDP governors moving to APC.

Nigeria! When is the change coming. All I see is same old people with thirst for power. Which way for the common man.

Sad thing is that the same APC people who in one side of their mouth would insult PDP and all their members will sing praise through the other side when they join forces with them.

darlingbobo: Hahahahaha. Bros or sis, I dey laugh you. The days of politics of sentiments are over. Ask yourself if Nigeria has made any significant progress in all ramifications for the past 14yrs that PDP has been in government. Is as if you don't really understand the what is happening in Nigeria. Do you really know why we are back and going round for the past 14yrs? If we really mean well for our dear country Nigeria, then we all should not continue to support a failed party. Whether GEJ is a christian or from south south like me and you, the truth is that, GEJ is a member of PDP and they have failed us. So they must go in 2015. He is a good man in the mist of bad and failed party. We all have to pay a price for our country to move forward.

Maybe you just returned from the moon.

By the way, it is the North and SW leaders like Buhari and Tinubu that have always played politics of sentiment and they will always be.

rozayx5: as long as APC is made up of former PDP members i just see them as old wine in new skin, still no hope in the horizon

Did you just realize this?

Party has never been the problem. Amaechi was a performing PDP governor, Akpabio is, Duke was and many others.

The real problem is US, Nigerians!
We are yet to be a Nation!
I don't know how best to put it.

TribalEAST: its not the people that matters but a new policy which APC is ready to give.

You have lied to yourself for so long that you have now believed the lie.

Show me development in Nasarawa state. That has being CPC and now APC state.

I live in Lagos so I cannot be fooled. There is massive fraud and white elephant projects. One man building an empire for himself and cronies.

seunfly: Pdp people are infected with pdp failure syndrome, so i'm not gonna welcome them into APC. May be Apc can just use them to spread their tentacles and drop them afterward otherwise, uuummmh!!!

Stop dreaming and hoping it's not true.
I have always clamored for an opposition as Nigerian's will be better for it.

APC is not that opposition. They are simply trying to be the new PDP.
If you think Buhari and Tinubu cares about you, you are on a long thing!

Kamanda: You 40 Laptop guys are cheating Reno Omockery O. With all the money you guys earn you come online with lame one liners.Only Sincere9gerian deh try write well well.
Abeg wake up O.I hate cheating.

You my friend who will celebrate when a "corrupt" bunch who didn't have their way in their party cross carpet to your party, is the laptop bunch.

payless: I'm in!

Team APC!

Let's overwhelm the killer party and run it out of town.

You see how hypocritical and fraudulent APC and their lapdogs are.

The killer party?? And you are celebrating their members moving to your party?

Nyako is one of the most corrupt human being on planet earth and you will celebrate him?

I bet you, if Ibori starts sponsoring APC, I bet he will be a saint!

When we say we need National Conference, some folks will attack us.

How can a people tell everyone to sit at home whether or not you believe in their religion? Total disregard for the constitution!

shymexx: And where did I cite Alaska? If you don't know Xmas is a stay-at-home day in the UK - that's your prerogative.

As for Alaska - I've never been there and I don't ever want to go there. So whatever they do over there is non of my business.

If you go out on X-mas day in UK, will you be attacked by the locals?
Please don't use such comparison, its ridiculous.

When I say Lagos is an urban village many argued and attacked me. Where I live, when its time for their festival, curfew is between 11pm and 5am.
When I first came to Lagos, I didn't know about it. When it was time for the festival, I was both shocked andf angry.

In this same Lagos where they claim they are civilised? The same Lagos that you can spend 5 hours on the road and you can't predict traffic?

All these jobless people will tell you to run inside and lock your doors after selling you a property for premium price?

They shouldn't use gen and shut windows and doors and Lagos can be very hot?

Anyway, it's just a matter of time.

Demdem:

Did u even understand the post u qouted at all?
So until I tackle each of those craps, u won't be satisfied or what? Even that one I made reference to is right on point and it rubbished ur post in totality.
Again I state, SR isn't partial in his reportage. Just this week, they reported the case of Tinubus daughter iyaloja story and it was obvious that the Tinubus were condemned by the tone of the report. U obviously don't know what u are talking about.
Go into the site and check their archives. No
one is here to spoonfeed u. Stop being lazy and put ur brain to work.

There is difference between reporting and character assisination.

Definition of Character Assassination:

Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation.

Reporting a wrong doing by Tinubu and persistent attempts to destroy the credibility and reputation of Oduah are 2 different things.

The fact that headlines upon headlines rolling out daily just to nail Oduah is totally beyond bad journalism.

You may not really be as intelligent as you think you are.
Like I listed. If you can't show me where SR did to Tinubu, exactly what they are doing to Oduah, when in fact Tinubu's corruption makes Oduah a kindergarten, then you should save your message for the uninformed.

Demdem: [s][/s]

Ignoramus. where were u when Saharareporters wrote about the alleged billions spent on Tinubu's birthday?
Go to past news reports of SR which can easily be gotten and u will see that no one is immune from their reportage.

Only one at of the many listed?

And why was Tinubu's personality not assassinated and asked to back down as a "progressive"?

Lastly, try and be courteous for once. If you can't be, please don't quote me again because I won't border to reply.
If your reason is my use of "your bull-crap", I was referring to the information you gave and not your person.

Deyo2013: ........Don't worry about that, he will be re-branded when he arrived.

APC for life!

lol.

Yeah sure, like Tinubu is a rebranded thief!
Like Dino Malaye, FKK and the rest?
Sure thing.

funnyx: Shut up your dirty mouth you dirty goat, who is wicked between me and you? Is it you that have sold your conscience and the future of your generation for a bowl of porridge and bootylicking just to get your daily bread or me that have no allegiance to any politician?
You're talking about objectivity when your antecedent shows you're irredeemably bias. To you anyone that has a contrary view to yours is APC and bias while fellow members and supporters of your killer party are objective, objectivity my foot. Better work hard because it usually doesn't end well for psychophants and AGIP like you.

You have added stupidity to your wickedness. Read your post again, you will see how stupid you are.

I am neither campaigning for GEJ nor PDP but for National Conference!

If it was called by Tinubu who I consider corrupt, I would also support him.

You are the biased person.
The person you attacked was neither for PDP, GEJ nor Oduah.
Read his post again and learn so you can stop being an ethnic bigot.

The summary of its all is, Nigerians are not a people and will only prosper if the interest of every region is considered and adjustments are made to accommodate everyone in the interest of justice, equality, merit and the rule of law.

FreeGlobe: ^
you did not include the 600 million naira Prado SUVs for Fashola and Tinubu

My bad, it was oversight. Forgive me.

favoured-seed:
Nyako is commiting "political Suicide" watch n see. Pple are tired of his govt. I am sure dis is a very good news to Adamawa PDP cos he has been a minus for PDP over there. He is d top most under performer, notin happening in d state, notin to commission, just a govt for his friends n family to chop dats all. SMH

You couldn't have said it better. I was in the state for some time and had friends working in government house.

Nyako was running a government for his family.

No contract is awarded without his daughters signature.
His nephew who is physically challenged run contracts for the sate like he was an expatriate but he had probably OND or less.
To get a contract, you had to come from his LG and be a close relative.
He paid almajiris monthly salary from 10,000 to probably above 100,000 monthly for doing nothing. They were used as thugs during election.
The list is endless. Most development you see in the state was done by Bony Haruna.
He would have lost last election as both Christians and Muslims alike vowed to vote him out and vote ACN or CPC.
He won because of PDP's structure, money and probably rigging apparatus.

I left before the last election so I don't know if things have changed much.


And that's the kind of person APC want to run their party structure.