₦airaland Forum

Zealoy:
Pls nlanders my lips is seriously getting dark n am not a smoker pls help Wat am I going to apply

You must be one of those black people with irritatingly big lips that act as umbrellas under the sun. Why wouldn't it get sun burned?

Try using a good lip balm. And don't brush your lips, feels weird. And also wear a hat. It helps.

HaneefahRN:
I find it weird too, why do they cover their hair with scarfs or handkerchief when going to church or about to pray, when they'll throw it off the next minute?

Why wear yours all day? Like you won't remove it to bath. Weird.

If I were to credit your account with 6,666,666.66 I'm sure you wouldn't turn it down. Neither would you turn down a hotel room at the Sheraton numbered 666.

Nigerians are such superstitious clowns.

kingstylo01:
I won't argue with you. if you don't believe what Christ said about St. Peter in the Bible, then who am I for you to believe?

Don't argue with me. Just accept that the Bible never named Simon Peter a Pope. That is a fallacy induced by indoctrination.

Nothing I earlier mentioned is untrue. I only regret not mentioning the true origins of the Pope, his hat and the other fallacies of Catholicism.

kingstylo01:
please let me ask you a question, what is the meaning of Pope? also, read Matthew 16, 16-19 and the Gospel of John chapter 21 verse 15 to 19....
please read and get back to me
thanks

Nobody knows the meaning of Pope. We only know what the Roman Catholics have showed us a Pope to be: a man they worship, whose dead feet they kiss, a man equated with the son of God(vicarii filli dei). He certainly wasn't a biblical fixture. He is an invention of an organization hell bent on adding and subtracting what it pleases from the Bible.

The sooner people know the Pope for who he is-he's not a spiritual descendant of Simon Peter, by the way-the easier their lives will be.

kingstylo01:
please let me ask you a question, what is the meaning of Pope? also, read Matthew 16, 16-19 and the Gospel of John chapter 21 verse 15 to 19....
please read and get back to me
thanks

Nobody knows the meaning of Pope. We only know what the Roman Catholics have showed us a Pope to be: a man they worship, whose dead feet they kiss, a man equated with the son of God(vicarii filli dei). He certainly wasn't a biblical fixture. He is an invention of an organization hell bent on adding and subtracting what it pleases from the Bible.

kingstylo01:
The Pope is not God, rather the visible head of Christ on earth, the vicar of Christ...


remember, Christ said to Simon Peter "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall never prevail against thee"


God bless the Pope!

When did Simon Peter become the Pope? He personally went about establishing the office of the Pope? Come off it!

People can turn the words of a book to their favor, and twist the few words of a verse to suit their inventions.

kingstylo01:
The Pope is not God, rather the visible head of Christ on earth, the vicar of Christ...


remember, Christ said to Simon Peter "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall never prevail against thee"


God bless the Pope!

Is Simon Peter the Pope's earliest form? Was he the Pope?

Some people can twist one book to mean so many things, one verse to create their own god.

Akshow:
jamb kweshion.

Smh.

menesheh:
How certain are you that there is, remotely a thing called god that ever said anything. There is no claim or moral obligation ever maintain by any religion that can't also be the product of human mind. Religion is world greatest illusion to ever infiltration our human society.

This is potentially a good and valid evidence testifying that religion is basically the product of our human society (man made)

I'm not interested in your atheistic discussions for now. There are opportunistic atheists too.

shine96:
How can pope be God,? you well so? Abi you drink ogogoro

You don't sound well. You sound drunk.

tonyfrenzy:
You sound absurd?
If you're not an atheist, you'll know better.
No, he's not!

You sound bizarre.

Is the Pope God?

kokoA:
****Wait for four year before you start making useless noise here. Stop comparing someone who hasn't done 1 year with someone who did 6 yrs.

But you just told us he worked so much in less than a year. Why wait for 4 years again?

Kenai:
Wah wah waaaah!

"South East lost by not supporting Buhari"

"South East put their eggs in one basket"

"South East miscalculated by not supporting Buhari"

"South East is blinded by tribalism"

"South East was politically naive and lacked sophistication for not supporting change"

"South East will be on the wrong side of history for not supporting Buhari"

"South East miscalculated seriously by not supporting Buhari"

...

Well, with the events playing out, it sure looks to me like the South-East were the WISER ones for refusing to be deceived by the FAKE change and propaganda.

When history comes to judge you and you think of the role you played in electing a 73 year-old illiterate tribal supremacist and coup-plotting ex-dictator to rule your country of over 170 million people in the 21st century, would you be proud of yourself?

From "Buhari is a reformed democrat", the new narrative being pushed by his lapdogs today is "democracy is an obstacle to the war on corruption". "Let us withdraw the constitution to help Buhari fight corruption".

Your parents queued up for long hours in 1984 for milk, rice and beans; you'd have to be a gullible dimwit to think Buhari gives a damn about you queueing up for long hours in 2016 for fuel.

A people with no knowledge of their history will never be gifted with the skills of retrospective analysis, and are bound to keep repeating their mistakes. This is exactly why it was easy to pick up an expired ethnic bigot and despotic illiterate from the dustbin of history, and dust him up into a "reformed democrat" in the eyes of the gullible, ignorant populace.

I don't think people knew the man from back then. Most people making a show of voting were teenagers and shallow adults. They never cared or didn't want to care about who the man was.

Nigerians are quick to complain about a president desiring another term, but they couldn't investigate the dark history of a man twisted by age who was coming in for his second shot at destruction. The past repeats itself again. Only force will remove this current president. The leopard can't change its spots.

Holyman3:
Nigerians 'praying' As The World Is Outraged Over 'panama Papers Leaks'


While chains of reactions are now trailing the latest revelation of fraudulent activities of some wealthy people through the Panama Papers Leaks, some Nigerians are still unperturbed about the issue that is drawing global concerns.

First casualty is the former Prime Minister of Iceland, Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson, who was disgraced out of office over the revelation that he and (or) his wife had interest in a company under scrutiny.

The leaked documents from the Mossack Fonseca law firm in Panama reveal Gunnlaugsson and his wife, Anna Sigurlaug Pálsdóttir, bought a British Virgin Islands-based offshore company, Wintris Inc, in December 2007 to invest her share of the very substantial proceeds from the sale of her father’s business, Iceland’s only Toyota importer.

Gunnlaugsson sold his 50% stake to his wife for a symbolic $1 at the end of 2009, eight months after he was elected to parliament as an MP for the centre-right Progressive party. He failed, however, to declare an interest in the company either then or when he became prime minister in 2013.

In Nigeria, Ex Governor of the oil rich Delta State, James Ibori, President of the Senate, Bukola Saraki and his predecessor, David Mark, are public officers named so far in the Panama leaks but there seem to be very little concern by Nigerians.

Dallas, USA based real estate expert, Ejike Okpa, is concerned that the revelation which is a function of deep rooted corruption in the country is not stirring enough 'anger' from the citizens.

"But Nigerians should be outraged that their money is stashed away while they are made to endure rounds of NO LIGHT, NO WATER, BAD ROADS, ARREARS OWED Civil servants, crumbling nation with no infrastructure to speak to.



"However the people are starving but smiling preferring to scream in "In Jesus Name" and "Mighty Name of Jesus", while they are fleeced by their leaders who also enjoin them to pray for them to be successful as they rob them."

Mr. Okpa who was once a Republican Dallas Mayoral Candidate, took a quick swipe at those who at all times find pleasure in giving recognitions to 'corrupt' public officers and could go to any length in defending them.

"And guess what, Nigerians pray for their leaders to keep stealing from them, often rewarding them with front row seats in church and places of worship. That is how they roll in Hail Thee Nation.

"But never mind, in the world most populous black Nation where they 'Hail Thee' but live in Raging Hell. The apologists and sympathizers will find reasons that it is nothing to worry about."

He ended his post which he shared with an online group with a seeming call to action.

"Maybe so, but Thank God for internet and willing journalists who took the risk to unearth the wicked conducts of those who ought to serve their nation.

"Now, what are you going to do it about it?"

http://www.homelandnewsng.com/other-news/3605-nigerians-praying-world-outraged-over-panama-papers-leaks

So the only money that could save Nigeria, give power and end fuel scarcity has to come from repatriated funds and investments made by thieves? What a pathetic thing to tell about.

That's the reason nobody likes the current government. So Mr Bihari had thought nothing of increasing government coffers, in fact, he campaigned to be president in order to retrieve funds that the country has been surviving without all this time, because the ONLY way the country will turn around is by recovering stolen loot? Inconceivable.

And so it becomes apparent with every new revelation that Nigeria is being led by a &%#!$!

Heineken? Was that the only bottle around when he was named? Must say, good taste, though.

paulGrundy:
Am glad you thought in that direction, but watchtower literature thinks otherwise with respect to the number of nails.



It had to be so, because if they were nailed together, the weight of the upper body would have tear through and destroyed the feet. If the feet were placed apart and nailed, it would enable him support his weight. Archeaological findings on roman crucifixtion indicates two nails pierced to the side of the feet which still contains some attachment of little pieces of bones.

I read up on that particular archaeological finding. Interesting.

But I assume there must have been a better pain inflicting way of placing the feet, and that should be crossed and just under major joints, somewhere in the metatarsals. It wouldn't matter where they were nailed if their legs were broken. Perhaps they even had a little piece of wood under their feet, which their toes would only just brush when their weight was shearing through their joints. It would be reassuring but not much help?

Though I don't understand how the weight from their hands would tear through if they were nailed the way Jehovah witnesses say they were nailed. The arm spread out deal looks more likely to have nails skittering through the hand joints. You need to explore that more. I think the hands spread out, nail in the middle of the palm method you think is right is actually wrong.

I find it interesting. From the Romans to Vlad. Torture is always torturously intriguing.

SycophanticGoat:
Buhari couldn't provide:

Fuel for the masses,
Security for those being killed by his brothers
Justice for those fighting for their rights
Power supply for the country
Forex for businesses and education
Good roads
Water supply
Sound economic team to help tackle the economic recession
Jobs for the masses
Job security for the working class
A corrupt free environment
Etc..


But yet some fools had the effrontery to post useless pictures of Buhari:

Chilling in the presidential jet
Drinking sachet Milo
Hypnotizing his cows
Sitting close to Obama
Being interviewed by a kid that knows he's nothing but a brain dead dullard
Etc,

All these, including the useless facade anti-corruption news are in a bid to take our minds off the hardship we're facing in this God forsaken country. News flash, you can't bring a positive change thru media antics but by diligent and creative work.

Hypnotizing his cows. Lol.
Sitting close to Obama. Double lol.

goodnews201668:
Is not about what he thinks, he obviously doesn't support the truth. It's about what the Bible says.

I didn't know all that stuff, until a Jehovah Witness explained it to me with his Bible. And I guess he has a point. Why not call God by his true name, Jehovah?

paulGrundy:
Look at the number of nails in each picture. Notice in the above depiction from the Watchtower publication Knowledge That Leads to Everlasting Life there is only one nail and it goes through the wrist and not the hands, due to it being a stake, not a cross. Compare this to what Thomas stated at John 20:25;

"unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe".

Jesus was crucified with two nails, one in each hand, not a single nail through the wrist. That separate nails were in each hand is made clear by the use of the word 'nails' not 'nail'. This suggests that Jesus had his arms separated on a cross, not together on a stake as represented in Watchtower publications.

Matthew 27:37 also supports the idea of a cross rather than a stake when it says;

"Above his head they had put the charge against him in writing: 'THIS IS JESUS, KING OF THE JEWS' ".
In the picture of the crucifixion the plaque is above Jesus head, whereas in the Watchtower representation it is necessarily above his hands. If Jesus were impaled on a stake it would be stated that the titilus was placed above his hands, not his head. J. H. Bernard observes that this scripture "suggests that the cross was of the shape called crux immissa, with a cross-bar for the arms, as painters have generally represented it to be" (A Critical & Exegetical Commentary on the Gospel According to St. John, 1929, Vol. 2, p. 628).

Two nails could've been used in the second pic. Nobody knows the circumstances of his being nailed. In both pics, the sign still remains above his head, whether the hands come first or not.

Enough of the exegesis. What do you think? You Paul Grundy?

In fact, I'm surprised your first pic has the feet nailed separately. That's a deviation from the normal.

paulGrundy:
Check this picture out

Aren't all their arms stretched? Even on the poles?

paulGrundy:
The Complete Jewish Bible, a translation used by many Messianics also uses the term stake in place of the more commonly translated cross. Many have said that they do not use the word “cross” because it is a pagan symbol that was brought into the early church by Constantine. The problem with this errant teaching, is that inscriptions of crosses have been found in archaeological excavations that pre-date Constantine in early Jewish Christian tombs, both on the walls, and also written on the burial ossuaries.

Although the Greek word found in some passages of the New Testament is stauros (G4716), which can mean stake, there is another word xulon (G3586) used in such passages as Acts 5:30, 10:39, 13:29, and Galatians 3:13 which quotes from Deuteronomy 21:23 (H6086) which is often translated as “tree”.

Historical reports and archaeological evidence pertaining to first century execution by the Romans does not support “stake” as a valid translation. The stauros was a vertical pole that was permanently installed at the crucifixion site, and the ones being crucified were forced to carry the cross beam up the hill to the site as a form of punishment. Once they reached the site, they were nailed to the crossbeam, and then hoisted up onto the vertical pole (stauros), where their feet were then nailed.

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The details of the Gospel accounts simply note that Simon from Cyrene carried the cross of Jesus and that an inscription was hung above the cross. Further, Jesus was nailed to the cross, indicating His hands being stretched out. Dr. William Lane Craig notes:

"The description of Jesus' carrying his cross is consistent with the Roman practice of forcing victims to carry the crossbeam of the cross to the place of crucifixion. The nailing of Jesus' hands and feet to the wooden frame is suggestive. In John 21:18-19 the kind of death Peter would suffer is prefigured with the words 'you will stretch out your hands and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish to go.' The second century pagan author Artemidorus similarly refers to criminals being 'crucified high and with hands outstretched' (Oneirocritica, I. 76. 35). The outstretched hands naturally suggest a lateral extension. Artemidorus confirms this when he later says, 'the cross is made of pieces of wood and nails like a boat, whose mast is similar to a cross' (II. 53. 3)." (from: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/was-jesus-crucified-on-a-cross)

Roman crucifixion could have been carried out in a variety of ways (T shaped, lowercase t shaped, X shaped, on a stake, or even upside down). However, in the case of Jesus, the details suggest a T shaped cross with enough room above His head to place a sign of Him as "King of the Jews" in three languages.

http://www.compellingtruth.org/cross-pole-stake.html

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Scriptural proof?



The watchtower is the rank and file who determines the policies that jehovahs witnesses abide by.

To get INRI written doesn't need a large space. We don't know the font Pilate used. We don't know how long the sign was, if it was written word under word or right across. There are coins with inscriptions that need no conversion to wheels before they can be read.

Your Craig quote sounds... People can carry logs of wood over their shoulders. This log was not so heavy that a flogged man couldn't carry it. As I stated earlier, crucifixion or death by nailing to wood need not have happened on a cross. But it's assumed it was on two beams because the Romans favored such treatments for criminals.

Proof? really? Ask any JW in the house.

Point is: he was nailed to wood. Nobody knows in which manner for crucifixion had various forms. And translations keep translating words to those who want to see them. The word remains "tree".

paulGrundy:
You are wrong, the hebrew and greek word for cross could also suggest a T shaped beam, I have a whole lot of archeological, biblical and linguistic evidence to support my claim.




I repeat, paradise was never used in conjuction with the word earth. The bone of contention is not with the scriptures, but with doctrine.




But there are many pentecostals and protestants that don't do these things, why would the watchtower still be different from all of them?

What I said is that there is no Hebrew word for "cross". All we have are translations. And more translations.

The word for it suggests it could be in the shape of a "T"? What makes you think it was a T-shaped cross? It could've been transverse. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason it could be a cross would be because that was the method of crucifixion at that time, and not because in Hebrew and Greek the word suggests a T. The gospels don't all call it a cross.

Paradise. A beautiful word that tries to describe Utopia to the religious mind. The lion and the lamb shall lie together and the other creatures of the world. That's what is said that will go on on the earth and has been going on in heaven. What's established up there will eventually come down. That's why paradise, where Jesus said the malefactor would follow him to, is the same as the kingdom that will be established for a millennium. A place of peace, etc. They are not wrong in saying that paradise will be on earth. They simply forget that heaven won't end because of the millennial reign.

There are many Pentecostals, etc. Are you calling watchtower a religious body or a religious publication?

dare2differ:
They are not arabs, they are shuwa arabs

There are lots of ugly arabs too

Just like there are a lot of ugly White people.

Everywhere has the ugly and the beautiful. Personally, I've hardly seen a good looking northerner/Arab/Hausa/Fulani. Especially the Hausa. Hakura.

Omg, paulgrundy. This is serious. No wonder you helped attack me on behalf of that guy.

I'm just observing your deep dealing with the witnesses. You actually listen to people you don't agree with? Self-inflicted torture.

paulGrundy:
1 Corinthians 1:18King James Version (KJV)

18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

John 19:17-22King James Version (KJV)

17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:

Are you sure you are reading the bible?



The word paradise is used only once in the bible, and it was used in conjuction with earth. Paradise earth is a product of watchtowers invention.

"And he went on to say: "Jesus, remember me when you get into your kingdom." And he said to him: "Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise."" Luke 23:42-43



The bolded best describes your post. By what yardstick do you measure which religion is better-off

Nowhere in all accounts of the crucifixion were crosses mentioned. At least, according to the Jehovah witness Bible. Hebrew word for it was "tree". Translations have left it at " Cross ".

Paradise is a figurative word. Going by the dictionary, that new Jerusalem will be paradise. Then again, it was Jesus who mentioned paradise as being heaven. Heaven on earth.

Yardsticks are kissing dead feet and reading stipulated prayers from prayer books and nunnery and secret societies within a supposedly transparent organization and drinking Jewish blood. In some other regards it's jihad and savagery in the modern world along with child brides. For yet some others it's worshipping things with too many hands and long earlobes.

Ah. Maybe when I'm better prepared on another of the world's falsehoods, I'll be able to face you head on. For now, you got dibs.

And you are biased!

Anabel:
I love Toke so much, from a distance I'm really feeling the outfit and all but up close, she's looking like a mannequin. But her skin looks radiant and beautiful

I read your comment and then had to rush to see your pic. You didn't disappoint.

Fr33born:
No. You lie bro.

Why did you not tell us the part where they said christ was crucified on a pole and not cross?

Why did you not tell us the part they said heaven (paradise) is on earth?

And where they said there is nothing like Trinity?

Please tell us more

Is there actually anywhere in the bible that it's stated "cross"?

Eventually paradise will be on earth. It's in that Bible of yours.

People are so biased and full of hate for what they don't understand. Admittedly, there are some tall tales here and there, but the Jehovah witnesses (don't know in which one the 's' falls) are not total write offs. They are better than Catholics.

Saylawchar:
Can you see what am saying? Calling someone an apostate when you are not supposed to judge another person. I just pity your spiritual life......

But a Christian should be honest in his dealings and tell another if he sees him going the wrong way. How he chooses to do it was not specified in the bible. Just that he should. He has.