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Holudarey01:
Fortissimo,
Depends on the sch
my friend gained admission to Minnesota @ twin cities with full funding and he didn't send bank system

trueking:
WOW this is really scary, I think you need to live a fasted life (hope you know what I mean), I am making Preparations to undergo deliverance in MFM myself.

trueking:
You know Celine Dion's songs were the ones that pained me the most, cause they seem so innocent, but I was afraid of subliminal messages so I just got rid of them. thanks.

Nicklutz:
Seems its becoming a bit active here, majority of we naija ppl are information seekers and dont like to even share the ones people even tell us, wish we could ave the mentality of the whites... well God help us.. And for the gre group request n I will add u.

MuttleyLaff:
I will repeat myself with a crucial point you seem to be overlooking where plḗthō meaning "full'' and implies "filled to one's (i.e. individual) capacity corroborates the below repeated paragraph I earlier mentioned in previous posts

Believers are on 24/7 charging, they ought to never unplug but remain connected ever charging
and receiving from the Mains, as much flowing current they are able and capable to receive.
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak
The Holy Spirit is willing, to give as much as one can handle
but it is either faith or the flesh, at times which when weak that holds one back.

Full is not constant, as you grow so does your fullness grows. This is why, one is constantly plugged in to the Mains Holy Spirit
You see, the difference between an inflating or infilling balloon and a believer, is that a ballon bursts with air once it gets pass its fullness threshold, however the infilling Holy Spirit will continue to infill into a believer to the extent the believer gives it room to fill into.

When you say recharging, it's like you saying the juice is used up so requires topping up or recharging.

I have heard and read about little faith, weak faith etcetera but nothing like that about the Holy Spirit. One either has the Holy Spirit or one doesn't have it all. Worst case scenario, one has the residual Holy Spirit after it is quenched and there isn't anymore flow of the Holy Spirit current because the plug is pulled

It is the same current flowing, there is no second current flow. I have never heard, read or being taught about second current flows into electronic or electrical components. Electric flow is electric flow, there are no distinctions, so it is with the infilling of the Holy Spirit to the apostles after Pentecost
They just made room or more space for the infilling to fill into

Do people recharge electric irons?
When current electric flows into an electric iron, is it possible to discover other iron features/functionalities not previously used?

fizzile:
Hey guys, for anyone outisde Lagos visiting the
embassy,where can the person find accomodation
close to Walter Carrigton? And what price range
please? Its urgent plz

There's one coded hotel at obalende behind one big methodist church.. Just 3k with A/C, water, 24hrs light, tho the room small sha.. And take keke from there to check point, then walk down to embassy.. Make I no lie you, That abule egba too far

Mayflowa:
You flopped all the opportunities to sell yourself. You were too lukewarm. No excitement in your answer. I am sure you barely spoke loud.

I want to stress here that VO are tired of hearing about online research for school. How many school can you truly research online? Every sch online will sell itself. Wouldn't you if you had a school. Therefore online details is a very bias means of choosing a school. You would probably be deceived and frustrated once you get to the school.

One good way to find out about the school is past experiences of students and staff of the school who are by themselves experience the school. So telling VO that a formal senior or brother of yours attended the school and told you of the numerous opportunities the school offers and saying he found employment immediately he got back to nigeria because of his acquired skill sets is a good way to impress the VO. You could say he was elevated to senior position because of his contribution to his workplace six months after returning from us.

Notice I always tie my answer to nigeria because of home ties. I cannot over emphasize the importance of that.

On why you choose the course, stop saying the curriculum or class ratio. Most school in US has same structure of curriculum. Why? They all research into best structure of curriculum and they virtually turn up with same curriculum. However, current research differs per university. So ur attraction to a named researched by prof so so will be apt for you to mention. Go further to say you are in touch with the prof. If you have a good sat or GRE score. Chip in that he was happy with your CV and GRE score.

See? You are the one leading the interview. At this stage, he would be interested in your score. VO would be impressed.

I hope I made a good point. This is a money-worth points. You got it free. So be nice to someone else.

MizyB:
thank you very Mich ma. The 'not eating food' comparison is just great Cos its similar to not praying, watching and studying the word of God which are helpful spiritual 'food'. God bless you ma

MizyB:
Mr vooks, thank you. So a believer who doesnt 'recharge' this infilling might end up quenching the spirit, right? And Could this lead to total loss of the spirit in such believer?

tearoses:
I Am sure they do
Just that they choose to give excuses and think that they are the messiah who can change a bad boy to good.

tearoses:
The average man with his head screwed on right also will love to have a happy family; beautiful wife & children & looking forward to going home each evening
I dont think that any man wants to be buying food from buka every day and with no one to care if his socks match or not

@thread I have never met anyone who found Mr right, but decided not to marry him because of her career
If anything, I see more women rushing to the alter for the wrong reasons

ngobaby23:
@ bro Charly Gi flesh and blood has not revealed this to you. I once. Made a complaint about masturbation and pornography addiction. Which opened many doors of misfortune, bad dreams etc. But I've not done it for weeks. But I still have sexual dreams and also see myself in my secondary school. Even though I pray often. I'm born again. That addiction was my stronghold. Do I need to go for deliverance about the dreams I'm having even though I've stopped masturbation. I'm serious about getting closer to God. And another thing please my mum is admitted in the hospital. She is in so much pain. pls bro Charly, sis analyze, bro oyeledef etc. Pls I need your prayers. Thanks and God bless.

analice107:
?..o

analice107:
I follow Zacharias and John Lenox too. I have many
of their MP3s.

@vooks, thanks for that Zacharias' book.

nnamdiosu:
thanks for that. I tried telling people too

Tjayjosh:
Bro, it made God seem like a cranky old grand father who does not know how to tame his tongue when pushed to the wall.

Peritus:
I'm a committed and ardent follower of this thread. Please I need your guidance @nnamdiosu, charlyG1, analice, vooks, oyelude and others.
First, I'm newly born in Christ (2 months plus) though fast growing by His grace. I know that there are a lot I need to learn, and so, I am committed to reading my Bible and asking older soldiers.
The issue is this. My dad suddenly fell ill (stroke like) and cannot walk, plus slurred speech. Later, he was diagnosed to have a growth in his cerebellum, but before the result came out I prayed against surgery and when it came out, same was recommended. So I went back to Him who holds the key to life for I know that my dad won't go under a knife for he is healed already, spiritually.
I prayed God that whenever I'm travelling to see him, I'll be travelling for Thanksgiving and not the otherwise. Yesterday, my mum called and said that he recorded "60 percent improvement" in her words. I spoke wth him, his speech was firm on phone.
My spirit has been troubling me to go down to my village and conduct a prayer. Well, I have finally decided to do so, but I have some concerns.
I have no companion, I will be going alone.
What should I expect?
Nobody, even my extended family, is currently in the village.
I have never done a thing like this before and there are past revelations of buried charms and diabolism by a dead relative (who said i was her husband's reincarnate). I've already broken every link and prayed against any sought of covenant etc.
Need I physically go down there?
I am already in transit to my state to see my parents in the city. Not that I am afraid but I need insight and guidance from my "elders".

Again, in my first week of prayer, I dreamt of when I was clearing grasses in the village and my dad was passing with a frnd. He greeted/discussed with me ( he was limping a bit).
About five days ago, I had a dream when an old woman from my mum's side took me to the back of my g'mum's house and gave me black bag filled with gifts wrapped in black nylons. I kept it in the house, someone/smth instructed me to throw it away, which I did. I woke up into another level of dream and was telling my aunt of the dream. she started scolding me that I shouldn't have collected the bag. I told her to calm her nerves until she hears what I did last, then I woke up fully.
I also dreamt yesterday of killing a centipede and saving a kid from falling off a cliff.
Can someone help me also with the interpretation of any. Thanks.

Great0:
Bro Temi, i sent you a pm

fischer77:
Good evening brethren,

I think I started the topic on speaking in tongues because I was a little curious about not falling prey to false tongues. Even though I have been giving this a thought I never prayed for the tongues. Something happened yesterday as I was praising and praying at midnight. As I was praying and quoting scriptures I felt the urge of speaking in tongues, it was building up in my mind and more like a momentum wanting to burst out, I was scared as not to start speaking false tongues but I felt the urge within me building up and I quenched it.
So please brethren I need advice.

God bless you all.

Great0:
Bro Temi, i sent you a pm

analice107:
LOL, why are you taking this so personal? It's a general discussion.
A question was asked, How do we know Genuine Tongues from gibberish? And everyone contributed, why are you holding unto what I said as if I directed what I said to you? Its well ooo

MizyB:
Now... mizyb..

Please help with the following questions

What is gibberish?
Unintelligible talking

What is speaking in tongues?
Speaking in intelligible language never learnt by the speaker.

What is praying in the spirit?
Praying =Addressing
Praying in the Spirit =Addressing the Father by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost. Giving up all what's going on in your mind and totally connecting to the Spirit of God.

How do you know it is gibberish they are speaking?
Am sorry but I have to reply with a question. If truly its unknown languages they speak, when they find out there's no interpretation why do they keep on speaking, seeing it edifies no one except themselves.

Temi4fash

analice107:
Dazzle dear. There are diverse kinds of Tongues, as evidenced in Acts of the Apostle chp 2, on the day of Pentecost. These Tongues, we saw God. Speaking to the people present, in their various languages using the voices of the Apostles. This is the sign that apostle Paul talked about, that Tongues are a sign to unbelievers not for believers. This sign is to cause them to be mazed and curious to want to know more.

1Cor.14:22. Wherefore Tongues are for a sign, not to them that belive but to them that belive not...
These Tongues, God can speak directly to me, using your mouth, but speaking my native mother tongue. Or speaking a language only one person in the congregation can recieve the interpretation. That's a special message, being passed through to me.
BUT, the gift of Tongues, every believer receives to authenticate our Brethrenwood in the Holy Ghost.
Every believer ought o speak to God directly. Paul says, when we do this, we do not speak to man but to God. And when we speak in Tongues, we could be inrervening for someone without knowing.
My dear, God can use you as a vessel to pass a message to someone who came to church for the first time. That's from God to man, eg. What happened on the day of Pentecost. Or you as a believer, speaking to God directly using the language of Angels.

Let me tell you what happened to me once.
An elderly woman walked into my house one day, and told me to stop praying loudly. That as I pray loudly people hear what I say and the wicked can counter my prayers. She said, witches are listening to what I say, so for them to be kept in the dark, I shd pray silently. I wasn't close to her, for her to have come to my house to tell me that, I decided to pray quietly. But I had a dream, and God asked me a question in that dream with regards to that. Let me not go into that here.
When we speak in Tongues, the enemy listening to counter your prayers is at a lose. He dons't understand what you are saying, he is not privy to that.

GoodMuyis:
As a baby in the experience, i will like to support the answer. my praying in Tongue start manifesting on Jan 28, this year, for just few second less than 2min, reason being that am burden by my prayer point an wanted God to hear my English *smile*.

The second time was Feb 8, that was after my prayer, just doing thanks giving, suddenly the tongue changes, i continued for less than 5 min and i deliberately cut out. since then notting happen again.

Because what Analice107 shared on one of my thread, I beg the Holy Spirit to take control and not to let me go until he is done with me [ I know say Him no go kill me na], but nothing happen since then.

But t yesterday during a 6am morning prayer with a brother, almost at the end of the prayer, what I,ve been expecting came, i continue for less than 4 min, and stop so as not to distract our prayer session.

After the Sunday Worship service, while everyone is gone, i stayed back in church to see what my master is going to do, it was so wonder, for the 1 hour plus i used in prayer, the utterance was just coming till i stop praying, even though, in few moment i feel to express myself in English, the utterance prevail, after few English word

Later in our evening program, its was not difficult for me to prayer in the tongue, the utterance just come automatically as long as i wanted pray in tongue.

This evening, "Heveanly father, i thank you " was the only English word i started by prayer with, the rest The spirit took control, i cant say how long i pray sha - Glory to God my father.

It so sweet, the utterance sounded like a very innocent child's tone

analice107:
Brother, you didn't get my point. As for the brother or sister I painted receiving the Holy Ghost Baptism when he or she believes, is sure. But the picture I painted is before repentance not after. When a child is born he/she learns everything. You don't learn Tongues. You don't practise Tongues. If you do, then you are not baptized in the Holy Ghost. because if you are, it comes instantaneously. You don't start by saying tatayayayaya Manama Kalakaua. You just flow.
If a believer is baptized by in the Holy Ghost, and his Tongues are tatayayayaya a, mamamamamakakakaka. Then that's his Tongues. My Tongues are not your Tongues.
When I speak in Tongues, I sound like I speak Arabic. I don't like Arabic language because it sounds confrontational and forceful to me. But that's how I sound. I have tried changing it, I can't.
I have a Catholic upbringing, I didn't realise how much that affected my total release to the Holy Spirit. When I eventually did, it was on Sunday evening around 10pm. I had desired it for long, but I thought I was suppose to feel a sensation like a electric current going through me. But that night, more than ever before, I wanted to be one with God. I only heard a voice I my spirit saying, you are ready? and I said audibly, Yes. And the voice said,start talking. I just obeyed and wanted to pray my normal prayers, but I was hearing my voice, as though someone else was using my voice to speak a strange language. That was it. No practise, nothing. For two hours, I couldn't stop. I kept trying to say Amen with my normal words, it was amen I was saying, but I to Tongues. My spirit had to ask God to help me stop, before I could stop.

What am I trying to say is. Am not referring to the state of a believer but a state of an unbeliever still under the influence of the Adamic nature, who bables words. Those are not Tongues, but gibrish. An unbeliever can't be baptised in the Holy Ghost nah.

Great0:
i love that comment that it depend on the spiritual growth of some, they charge the atmosphere while other join as atmosphere is charged.
Can you speak more on it my dear....

analice107:
How many of us know that Satanists have their tongues? And it sounds just like "Christianese" which is a gift or baptism by the Holy Spirit?
I believe before any Satanist speak in their tongues there must be a "rite of passage" before that level is opened to him/her. (seeing as Satan copies everything God does).
The rite of passage for Christians is Repentance, Santification, justification, I want to say the Baptism by water baptism by and in the Holy Spirit is Glorification. because it's puts you in a place where you can communicate to God with His own language. Apostle Paul called it the "Language of Angels" 1Cor 13:1.
I don't believe everybody in church can speak it. Why? I mentioned, repentance, sanctification, justification and then glorification.(my thought though). If I were a church goer who is in church because I was born into church, without any personal encounter with Christ. I live my life just like everyday person. I smoke, drinks anyhow, club, quarrel and fight if need be. Very unforgiving and malicious in nature. Speak against pastors, criticise church doctrines, doubt testimonies, call fellow believers names. I don't see anything wrong in keeping numerous relationships. I brazenly lie, A. A. M. O.F., I operate fully under the Adamic nature. But I run my mouth when asked to speak in tongues in church, I don't think that what am speaking will be termed as Tongues. I think it will be Gabrish. because, without being Baptised in the Holy Ghost, the evidence which is Speaking in Tongues won't be made manifest. And the character I painted above, won't be born again, and won't, the Holy Spirit, I don't believe can inhabit a vessel that dirty.

You hear something like this, mamamamakishaptototorotot, kakakabububu turonumukukikikittatatammaamamamama. When you hear Holy Ghost induced Tongues, they should sound like the speaker is speaking a foreign language. Not a repetition of consonant/vowel sounds. That will be gibrish. That won't be speaking to God, that will be exercising the vocal cords.
Just like, you can't speak the satanic language without going through their rite of passage, so also you can't speak to God without receiving the Baptism in the Holy holy ghost. Thats our rite of passage.

TheFakeMuyis:
We May disagree but Holy Ghost Baptism is not Salvation or Sanctification experience, that only requires us to received by faith and we believing that yes am save, am sanctified by His grace and we keep growing. Holy Ghost Baptism come with power and we cannot hide it [ask Peter or Stephen if am lying ], remember i stated in my earlier post: ...the fruit of the spirit were the true nature of Christ recreated in the life of a Spirit filled Christian. and the Holy Ghost Himself is 3rd Personality in the Godhead, so if you have Him [The Holy GHost] you have Jesus in you as well He is the one that will recreate himself in us. Remember Father, Son, HolySpirit are one, wherever you find one of them all are present, and we cant be carrying God in us and yet we are lacking the nature [of Christ] he desired.

I also believed that we dont develop these fruit one after the other, they come at once with the Holy Ghost Baptism, prior to that our life is already prepared for Him, that is the nature of sin as less to zero influence on us (so we wont be messing around like samson )

At time a once Baptised Christian may have lost it, thats why there fruit will be missing in their live. In my own case [not very far] I soon as I confirm and believed to have received the experience I started praying for fullness of the fruit of the spirit, speaking in tongue was not my top priority, there are better Koinoinia

The only answer i can give to your Question is : The person MUST have it, i cant doudt that, Holy Ghost Baptism is not just for speaking Tongue alone but for us fulfil God's purpose for our life

Luke4v18-19: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to 1)preach the gospel to the poor; 2)he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, 3)to preach deliverance to the captives, 4)and recovering of sight to the blind, 5)to set at liberty them that are bruised, 7)To preach the acceptable year of the Lord

But if thats is not the case the person need to pray for the fruit of the spirit, God want us to be fruitful, physically n Spiritually

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The real goodmuyis

TheFakeMuyis:
https://www.nairaland.com/2927623/speaking-praying-tongues-please-share
Read if you have the time

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Receiving Holy Ghost Baptism is by prayer either personally or by laying of hands. There are many time one as to wait Patiently for it, while praying and believing. Speaking/Praying in tongue is the evidence of Holy Ghost baptism, but it is also accompany with wisdom and knowledge so as to have understanding of the scriptures and many other things. personally I cant tell how people get the gift of Tongue, but I tell when someone is faking tongue.

Speaking/praying in tongue is not to be learn or taught the The Teacher/Master Holy Spirit will gift you your own tongue. I discover mine in prayer and the language is so different from many Tongue that I have being hearing, I wish to know which language is that [b]

Now to know if a Tongue is genuine: someone who claim to be Baptised in Holy Ghost must have ALL the fruit of the Spirit as stated in Gal 5v22-24.[/b]
Because the fruit of the spirit were the true nature of Christ recreated in the life of a Spirit filled Christian.

If you have the gift of Tongue from the Holy Ghost, dont doubt, else it will stop, take it by faith in and Jude1v20



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The real goodmuyis