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Xxxxtentacion2:
If Iran decides to use Nukes it suicide for them because Israel will survive and retaliate with their own nukes. They will be no actually winner but both parties will lose cities and suffer.. but in a nutshell I think it's suicide for Iran to use Nukes.

I am perfectly in agreement with you except if their super-weapon is the anti-satellite missiles with which they can destroy at least 70-80% of all Israeli satellites.

D1official:
If such transactions had happened,the US and Israel would have known.

I think Iranians miscalculated their move.

I agree that they probably allowed their emotions to take the best of them
OR
They have a secret weapon no one knows



Even if they have nuclear bombs, they cannot have as much as Israel

Whobedatte:
But they still need to test their nuclear weapons .it's one thing to have, another is to test.
From which warplanes will Iran deliver its nuclear weapons or which submarine ?
However , I still believe Isreal s retaliation will be more devastating as they have the best airforce in the middle east and can strike with heavy bunker busters to neutralize any underground.
Moreover , Isreal has built underground bunkers for each place in their country and also have a better air defense mechanism.
So Iran will lose more casualties as Isreal is just 10 million people with Iran 70 million .
I stand to be corrected though but we all have seen Iran strike Isreal twice using hypersonic missiles.
Let's wait for Isreals response to see who really has more devastating punch .

The position of Iran is at best irrational because they do not have any good Air defence system (mainly S-300 and a few S-400) which is inadequate by the time you look at lifts performance in Ukraine.

Israel had been dreaming of an opportunity to hit all the nuclear facilities of Iran for decades now and Iran just gave them such a reason. This will take Iran back at least 10 years to get back to where they are.

Israel is far superior to Iran with respect to their Air force and Air armaments. The distance between the the counties is not practical for conventional land warfare.

Except
1. Iran has a secret weapon no one knows about or
2. They intend to shoot down all Israeli satellites all at once.

Otherwise, I think it was a stupid move by Iran.


On the nuclear weapons:
They don't need to test one. It's either
1. Russia has given them a few or
2. Russia has given them both the plan and human resources to help them build their own nukes

NSNO:
I don't think Iran has nukes yet. Nuclear weapons serve as a deterrent to other nations so there is no need to have one and not announce it to the world that you have one.

Personally I don't have a lot of faith in Iran's capabilities because it is very hard to develop world class weapons in isolation and Iran has pretty much been isolated for the past 50 years.

I agree with you for nations who are rational and willing fight wars only if it is of a defensive cause.

How about a nation like Iran who are fighting Israel based on Ideology and Religion?

How can Iran be appeaced?

On what basis will you convince Iran to allow Israel to exist when their religion already says that Israel must be exterminated?

This is the issue at stake sir

ivolt:
The irrationality is a myth spread by war-weary western thinktanks and opinion leaders.
As far as I know, even historically, no country leaders unanimously commits suicide based on
sheer ideology. Leaders, even religious ones are the most pragmatic people in the society.
The first question they usually ask is how can I survive this event, then followed by how can my
country/supporters survive this.

Forget about sending foot soldiers and proxy militants to die as "martyrs".
Political leaders across the world tend not to attract mass-suicide events to themselves.
They only talk and act tough when they are not the one to die.


There is no protocol but simple cause and effect.
Generally, the west will have no say.
Currently, only one western country has the clout to even make such demand, that is the US.
And to do that, it will have to offer Israel impossible deals that it cannot deliver.
If you think otherwise, tell what can be promised to Israel that will make it back off for revenge and miss a one in a century chance?


A lot of countries have capabilities to produce nuke but they don't.
It is not about the technology, it is the advantage it offers.
As I said, Iran can make nukes quickly if it wants(it already has the technical know how to do it) but for political reasons still dragging its feet.



In the April attack, ballistic, cruise and drones were used. Only the ballistic missiles got through.
It makes all sense to attack with ballistic missiles this time. Iran is simply sending a message
that it can cause severe destruction. What would be a mistake is doing nothing.

Iran is like North Korea in geo politics, it needs to loudly announce its capabilities as deterrent to its enemies.
The day Iran has nukes, it will make a very loud announcement.
But as I said, such nukes only confer an advantage that no country will invade Iran and non-nuclear state will be fearful of going against it but the nukes cannot be used against another nuclear armed state.
Should that happen, all bets are off.

I get your point, however, from the Islam that I know, their rationality cannot be depended upon.

Why should a man tie explosives to himself so that he can blow himself up with others? Does it make sense?

Why would Boko-Haram insist that Education is bad yet they don't equally feel that used of products of technology like their AK-47, IEDs and weapons of war is haram for them?

Why do Muslims experience a rage when it comes to Israel? It is an ideology that has been ingrained for them.

Qur'an 1:1-7 is the Al-Fathia and a prayer which Muslims must pray five times a day.
Verse 6 & 7 says
Guide us to the straight path –
The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.

If you check their Tafsirs on this verse.
The Jews are the cursed one: the one Allah has invoked his curse while
The Christians are the ones who have been led astray

This is the beginning of the root of the Ideology of hate.

One of their Hadiths says
Boko-Haram.

Sahih Muslim 2922
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.



This is the root of the hate.

Secondly, paradise and a minimum of 72 virgins is guaranteed for those who die in the cause of Jihad. This guarantee is not available to any other Muslim apart from those who die in the cause of Jihad.


This is why rationality may not work for Iran. War of Ideology doesn't have any solution except a complete extermination of the religion of peace that is responsible for such.

https://www.youtube.com/live/nTyUygV7HrU?si=nGz03tvn0j8wLTXA

https://youtube.com/live/nTyUygV7HrU?si=kkD9nZ_1XbvFHvFv

This is Live from Ayatollah Ali Kahmeni explaining that what they did to Israel was just a warning shot

misreal:
Wow..
Very nice input.

It seems Israel wants to first achieve their objectives in Lebanon before facing Iran.

I think it would be a daily run for at least one week before they stop. Israel will stop only when Iran stop retaliating

Obrigardo:
It's hard to say now because the traitor trump stop NECA, I thinks that's their name, the UN Nuclear watchdog over Iran, under the guise that the US Government is paying Iran in return for not to build nuclear weapons.
So no oversight, and we don't have full info about their nuclear capabilities, tha ks to the rapist.

This is part of the big problem!
As of 6 years ago, Iran had already gone above the recommended concentration of Uranium 235, only God knows how much they have in storage now.
Apart from that, the desperation of Russia is a big factor. It is possible that they have given Iran a blue print and even sent them a few specialists in other than they can build their own bombs.

In other words, Iran may not need to test their bomb to know if it will work or not. Otherwise, I still don't understand what Iran is banking on for attacking Israel.

Obrigardo:
All thanks but no thanks to the obese slurring rapist and traitor trump who stopped the watchdogs over Iran. Iran was free to build atomic weapons without no oversight, rapist trump caused that.

I discover that whenever the big nations like USA, China or Russia intervene in the national affairs of other countries, they cause a bigger long-term problem in the future. If USA has not tried to make the Sha of Iran a puppet, the Ayatollahs would not have taken over.
A major question is, where is Iran sourcing it's Uranium? How much quantity it Iran procuring per year? How much quantity do they need for what they claim?

misreal:
What if Israel just decides to shoot 200 ballistic missiles into Tehran as a response,do you think Iran can stop them?

I think that Israel will want to do far much more than that. Ballistic missiles from Israel might destroy a lot of surface targets BUT the aim of Israel would be to destroy the several UNDERGROUND nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran. This would require that they send in some F-35 with bunker burster bombs. Because of the large distance, Israel would need to support up to 20-30 F-35s with refuelling tanker planes.

Except Israel have ballistic missiles that can carry some heavy duty bunker burster bombs.

Whatever Israel decides to do, it's no easy feat as the target is the underground nuclear facilities. I will not be surprised if Israel make it a one week daily affair.of relentless bombing.

sailor2011:
Regardless of what happens , the believe that Is real will go down is erroneous. That will never happen ....there is a superior higher power that will ensure that is real prevail...it is what it is..

I agree with you.

The worst that can happen is that half of Israel is exterminated. Then we know that whoever negotiate the peace thereafter may be the Antichrist

misreal:
This is why I have been quiet for sometime.
I also think Iran has made a very stupid mistake if they have no hidden weapon.
But then,with the way Israel has infiltrated Iran,there is a possibility that the mossad should have information about every weapon the ayatollah regime has.

I agree to a very large extent. The irrationality of the action of Iran seems to align with what Ayatollah Khomeini said:

Iran will gladly sacrifice herself to ensure that Israel exist no more.

Let's cross our fingers and see what Iran will do after Israel levels most of their nuclear enrichment facilities and storages.

The worrisome thing is that Iran does not have any serious Advance missile defense capability. The best they have is a few S300 from Russia (who themselves don't have enough for themselves now)

ivolt:
Your last statement if followed will be a suicide move.
There is a reason why no nuclear armed state has nuked another nuclear armed state till date.
It is because the reaction cannot be predicted.
What if a country attacks with 2 nukes and the other respond with 20 thus effectively destroying
a second chance at retaliation?

Iran's case is more precarious because even if it nukes all of Israel,
it will face utter destruction at the hands of the US.
So, there is no way it comes out on top.
If it nukes only a part of Israel, then it risks Israel nuking all its major
and strategic cities.
Essentially suicide move either way.

I don't believe Iran has nukes, because it can't keep secrets due to espionage and
strong divisions within the country.
It is not about how fast it can acquire nuke but the usefulness of such acquisitions.
Some reports says, Iran can develop nukes if it wants within a few weeks.

As for Russia support, Russia will not join Iran in a war that may involve direct
conflict with the west or Israel because it also has a lot to lose.

A nuke for Iran will enable it to avoid being invaded, but it won't help it go on offensive
against another nuclear armed state.

Your analysis is very much on point.

However, there is still this factor of irrationality especially from Iran as they see the extermination of Israel as their religious duty to do.

Secondly, I am not sure there is a standard protocol on ground for a nation choosing to use the nukes on another. What I am sure about is that if Iran uses the nukes, the West would prevail on Israel NOT retaliate with nukes.

Thirdly, I think that Iran is technologically developed to build their own nukes if they have a prototype with which to copy. With the new friendship of Iran and Russia, this can be done under the radar of foreign intelligence.


Finally, it certainly doesn't make sense for Iran to attack Israel with ballistic missiles like they recently did. Thus I wonder if Iran has "something else " we don't know about!
Otherwise, I seems it's a stupid mistake!

Kh36:
And you think if they do Israel and USA will not be aware? Iran no get anything.

It is certain that Iran will use the Nuke on Israel if they have one because they are blinded by rage against Israel.

USA was saying last week that Iran is just weeks away from the bomb.

No one knows for sure how the world will react to a nation like Iran using the nukes. What I am sure about is that the world will try to prevail against Israel not to retaliate with her own nukes.

Many people find it strange that Iran had been at proxy war with Israel through Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria etc even though the distance between Iran and Israel is approximately 1600km. The problem between them is historic in nature and it cannot be separated from Religion.

Even though Iran is at loggerhead with their predominantly Sunni neighbours championed by Saudi Arabia, they see themselves as the leader of the Islamic world who would usher in the coming of the 12 imam and the end of the world.

This end of the world would be characterised with the ultimate destruction of Israel with victory already guaranteed by Allah as even nature will assist in the extermination of the Jews . This is the same goal shared with ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban and even Boko-Haram.

Sahih Muslim 2922
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.


Why did I make the conclusion that Iran probably already has the Nuke?
1. The large distance between Iran and Israel will prevent a war by land. Thus, the superiority of Israeli army in terms of armaments will not be of much advantage
2. Iran has over the years developed their long range capabilities in terms of Drones, Cruise Missiles, Ballistic missiles and hypersonic missiles (In November 2022, Iran announced the successful development of a hypersonic missile)
3. Iran had been developing their nuclear capabilities by enriching Uranium to fission grade. Allah they need now is a prototype of a working Atomic bomb for them to build their own bomb
4. The trouble of Russia with the war in Ukraine had made Russia heavily dependent on Iran for military hardwares.
Iran must have negotiated a deal with Putin either
a. To acquire a few Nukes from Russia or
b. To acquire the Technology and technical expertise to fast-track a local production.


Conclusion:
Israel is definitely stronger than Iran in the Air, thus, Iran knowing that Israel would retaliate by first leveling their Uranium enrichment plant and other military infrastructure , it makes no sense for them to launch several ballistic missiles at Israel EXCEPT
Iran already has the Atomic Bomb and Israel is the opportunity to use it.


Here was the statement of Iranian leadership from 2005

President Ahmedinejad: "The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumor. Even if one cell of them is left in one inch of (Palestinian) land, in the future this story (of Israel's existence) will repeat. The nations of the region will soon finish off the usurper Zionists in the Palestinian land.... A new Middle East will definitely be formed. With the grace of God and help of the nations, in the new Middle East there will be no trace of the Americans and Zionists".

A previous remark made by Ahmedinejad: "Israel must be wiped off the map of the world, and god willing (…) we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionists."

What do you think would be the reaction of the World if Iran nukes Israel?

Confirmedzombie:
The downfall and destruction of Israel is near.

Our most High Prophet Muhammad (SAW) have sanctioned the destruction of Israel.

The Arab world will level Israel to dust. Islam is a peaceful religion but when provoked, you will weep and sorrow.

The best Israel can do now is to surrender, appologize, pay for all damages for peace to reign

It's now everyone is knowing that Allah and Mohammed told the biggest lie that
Qur'an 29:46
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

Of course, the God of Abraham cannot thus be Allah!

Mohammed is pseudo-Allah aka satan!

Think about this

Empiree:
sometimes I wonder if you live on this planet at all?. You act like you are not well informed. You are quick to benne BH is Muslim but it takes painstaking efforts for you to believe Christian agenda?. Ogbeni, go to RCCG's Library. If that's too difficult for you, are you a Yoruba speaking person?. If you are, go to YouTube or Facebook and search "former pastor Matthew oyewole" and listen to him. Even if you don't speak Yorùbá you will understand what he's saying in the comments section.

Your former Pastor is at it again o!

Check what he is doing now: what should we believe?

https://www.youtube.com/live/6oTiQDp6t9o?si=lCcYpqSv2urmzG9p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTiQDp6t9o


Cc: Antichristian

Creamcrest:
Some of you isreal ass lickers should not see this as a sign of weakness of the great Islamic republic of iran.

Pezeshkian is just a moderate who believes in diplomacy to resolve issues.

Iran will defeat isreal on a one on one confrontation without the help of allies.

The nation of iran has grown stronger despite several years of continuous sanctions by the entire Europe.

I doff my hat for this great nation of iran.

It's just Taqqiya in play bro!

AntiChristian:
Who authorised you to invade their privacy in the first place? You may be a cultist/robber/kidnapper looking out for your prey?

They suppose throw more than stone!

Na so una dey do inside bus, at the junction, almost everywhere with noise!

They supposed knack you 2 by 2 for neck!

I think I will one day ask the Twitter oga olopa about what can be done to such nuisance!

Can we record a video of the preacher and report to the police?

It's not surprising that this is Coming from one possessed with the spirit of hate!

Marc3500:
there are still movies u didn't mention

The list was not meant to be exhaustive but to show the relative timeline of Movies in Nigeria up till when Nollywood came on board in Nigeria.

ibechris:
Without much ado.
Nollywood is dominated by igbos...take this or leave it.
The first Nollywood film started in I958 by By Achebe u can research on this.

Let us give credit to whom it's due and leave sentiments out of this.

The father of Theatre art in Nigeria is Herbert Ogunde.

List of First Thirteen Movies Produced in or by Nigerians:
1. "Palaver" (1926) – Though directed by Geoffrey Barkas, this British production featured local Nigerian actors, marking one of the earliest films shot in Nigeria.

2. "Fincho" (1957) – Directed by Sam Zebba, this is considered one of the earliest Nigerian feature films. Although not entirely Nigerian-produced, it laid groundwork for future filmmakers.

3. "Ajani Ogun" (1976) – Directed by Adeyemi Afolayan (Ade Love), this Yoruba-language film was significant in early Nigerian filmmaking and is considered one of the first indigenously produced Nigerian films.

4. "Aiye" (1979) – Directed by Hubert Ogunde, one of the pioneers of Nigerian theater and film. This movie, a Yoruba-language film with elements of mysticism and traditional beliefs, was one of the first fully Nigerian productions.

5. "Jaiyesimi" (1980) – Another film by Hubert Ogunde, this Yoruba-language film continued his exploration of Nigerian culture and spirituality through cinema.

6. "Orun Mooru" (1982) – Directed by Moses Olaiya (Baba Sala), this comedy film marked a key moment in Nigerian filmmaking and is considered one of the first Nigerian films to achieve commercial success.

7. "Mosebolatan" (1985) – Another comedy classic by Moses Olaiya, this movie solidified Baba Sala's place as a pioneer of Nigerian comedy in film.

8. "Things Fall Apart" (1987) – Based on Chinua Achebe’s novel, this TV adaptation (also known as "Nna Anyi" was highly influential in the development of Nigerian storytelling on screen.

9. "Living in Bondage" (1992) – Directed by Chris Obi Rapu and produced by Kenneth Nnebue, this Igbo-language film is considered the birth of Nollywood and the first major Nigerian home video success.

10. "Glamour Girls" (1994) – Directed by Chika Onukwufor, this popular film continued the rise of Nollywood, focusing on urban Nigerian life and glamour.

11. "Violated" (1995) – Directed by Amaka Igwe, this film continued the home video trend and established Nollywood as a force in African cinema.

12. "Rattlesnake" (1995) – Directed by Amaka Igwe, this film was another popular Nollywood hit, contributing to the establishment of the home video market in Nigeria.

13. "Owo Blow" (1996) – Directed by Tade Ogidan, this was another early Nollywood film that achieved both local and international recognition.



Nollywood started in 1992 with the release of the film "Living in Bondage".

Cheers!

CoronaVirusPro:
Those deceiving Zelensky can never make heaven

Continuing a war you can NEVER win.

Europe still fails to realize they are pawns in the hands of the US.

Is this All because "the Comedian" refused to surrender to allow himself to be conquered as a slave to Putin's ego!?

Were are all the super-hyper-unknown weapons of mass destruction of Putin. Aren't they working again?

When is it a crime not to surrender to a bully?

ccollins:
u made the worst decision. A life without Jesus is a waste of time. U leaving your Christian faith is a straight path to hell. Repent of this wickedness

Don't waste your time on him. Can anyone who truly know Jesus turn back against Him?

It is impossible to deny the one who knows for sure that he was saved from damnation to hellfire.

SenecaTheYonger:
The price is high because the first batch of crude oil Dangote imported was from America and he used dollars to source it. The refined product is what we’re getting now and he’s trying to make his profit back.

The second batch of crude oil was from Nigeria which he paid naira for. That batch of refined product is going to be cheaper cause it was sourced locally.

And you believe this!?
SMH!

Kingsempires:
am not against you ooo what I meant is that you and this Muslims were doesn't have the same though or thick because All the explanation you are giving them they are still disagreeing which you what explanation can you give them again at the One understand that's why I said you go explain tire Shea is left from them

It's normal of them bro!
They don't want to listen nor comprehend but they want to criticise and crucify like blood thirsty leaches

Kingsempires:
you still dey here you go explain tire .

It's you who cannot explain a thing

Is Allah Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient?

The shocking answer is NO because the Taoheed of Allah is exactly like the Taoheed of Iblis!

Auki:
I will tell you a secret:

Trinity is a Pagan idea inserted into the bible. Your God is One absolute being with no son, nothing like Him or comparable to Him.

Like the Sheep of Animal farm who talk without sense.

Is Allah Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient?
The shocking answer is NO because the Taoheed of Allah is exactly like the Taoheed of Iblis!

Qasim6:
So why are you throwing around YHWH as if you know the correct vowels and the pronunciation, even the Jews don't know the correct pronunciation again.

And how do you know the meaning if you don't know the correct pronunciation?

Because the meaning of YHWH is written down in the Torah for those who can read

Qasim6:
The meaning of Allah is "The God" Al-ilah. because the Arabic word for deity is ilah and Al is a definite article

So, Allah means the God !?
Meaning that it isn't a Name but a Title such as the-chairman, the-president, the-chief or the-pilot!


Is the name of your Father "Daddy"?
Is the name of your Head of State as a Nigerian"President!"?

Such is the ignorance of Islam.


Back to the issue at stake:

Can you show that Allah is Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent using the implications of the Taoheed?

Explore2xmore:
Thank you for confirming the folly where direct or analoguos definition fail to explain trinity.
Where did you guys get it from?
How did it become a fundamental tenet of Christianity?

See you braying like a donkey again.
Stupidity is adopting a God who is neither Omnipotent nor Omniscient nor Omnipresent and insisting that such is the creator.

You cannot even explain that Taoheed without embarrassing yourself as there is nothing different between the Taoheed of Allah and the Taoheed of Iblis!

No difference!

grandstar:
The prolonged war is doing severe damage to Israel and the Israeli economy.

Israel international image is being discredited each passing day. Companies are closing down, and 100s of thousands of it's citizens are fleeing overseas. There's a serious labor shortage in the country now.

The economy is suspected to have a growth rate of -15%. Though a lot, a massive rebound always occurs after a war as economic activity restarts.

Netanyahu's long flippant tolerance and disregard of the Palestinians is now brazenly obvious.

Worse, permits has been given for more illegal settlements to be built in the West Bank at such a crucial crossroad in the nation history. This is just insane. He is given the international community the muddle finger.

How is this your business Mr Wailing Wailer?
The one who strikes a Bee hive should not complain of being stung!

Good riddance!

Why don't you just tell Hamas to Release the Israeli Hostages and there could be peace but no. How can you put murdering of hostages and peace in the same pot?

Again: good riddance!

MadPolitician:
All these might ultimately convince iran to get a nuclear weapon. And that will utterly change power dynamics in the whole region

As if Iran is not currently developing nuclear weapons as we speak!

Explore2xmore:
Sadly you don't even comprehend who questions you.

But since you make the mistake in your statement do satisfactorily explain the Trinity with and without analogy that cannot be faulted?

1. Are You are surprised that it is impossible to find a perfect analogy between the Trinity of YHWH and ANYTHING in creation!?
This is because there is NOTHING in creation that is like YHWH!
Do you know Anyone or Anything in the Universe that is Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent at the same time?

This is exactly why I call you dumb mules and donkeys who behaves at sub-intelligent levels.


2. So that you see how illogical your supposed question is, Taoheed of Allah is so simple to comprehend
Can you find any ANALOGY of Taoheed that cannot be faulted using your dumb criteria!?

It is called an analogy for this purpose: it is a description of a correspondence or partial similarity between a concept and something else!

3. An analogy is an AID to comprehending a complex concepts with relatable illustrations and justice has been done on it.

The Superiority of Trinity has been established over that of Taoheed that you by now should know that Allah cannot be God. Otherwise,

I asked you some simple basic questions:
Can you show that Allah is Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent using the implications of the Taoheed?

I am still waiting for you: talk is cheap?

Ojuntana:
Exactly
Allah is generic but the Muslims have abrogated it for themselves

It's like an adult who insists that the name of his father is daddy and the name of his mother is Mummy!

Ask them if the name Allah have any meaning: they don't know. Allah predates Islam and is equivalent to Eloah/Elohim of the Hebrew meaning Deity or god/God!