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Expanse2020:
Mumu you where in the bible did the bible said Jesus is only unique son of God

Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of[b] Adam, which was the son of God.” [/b](Luke 3:38).
David was even a biggotten son before Jesus..,😱Jesus

Psalms 2:7 we find “I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”

What about isreal, Abraham ASLO and what about the two sons of God that came to earth to have sex actually Funimation in the bible with beautiful daughters of men ....
So Jesus was not only the begotten son and not only son of God he has plenty senior brothers self

You call Jesus son of God and Bible call him son of David in dide occasion..who they lied among you

Mark 10:47
And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!

See simple comprehension of what is plain but of course, you are dull in understanding.

Is the statement of God literal or figurative?

You will need to defend whatever position you take o!


Are you also not the son of your father and the son of Adam?
Is this a contradiction?


For Jesus is both son of God and son of man! This is why he is called son of David!
The Messiah must come through David.

[quote author=Expanse2020 post=130381510][/quote]You did not answer my Question and I have answered yours.

You determined that you have the power to decide what you think God can or cannot do. You cannot base your premise on falsehood and expect an answer based on it.

Who determined what God can or cannot do? Is it you? On what authority?

To test your sincerity, I brought you this hadith Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith quoted
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?



Did you read this in the Hadith
Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him.

Who is the one who will come to you Muslims in a different shape?


Just as your insinuation,
If Allah is God, then he should not have changed his shape!


Do you agree with is statement above?

Expanse2020:
Read the hadiths back and read my answer. It's there already


I asked you a questions you didn't answer any of it...it is only a coward will see questions and not answer it.. You have been asking questions try to answer this too if you have balls

If Jesus is a God he should have stop what happened to him on the cross said by the bible

He should have told Judas that you will betrayed me and remove him from the 12 disciples (because of the unrighteous act)

Why did Jesus didn't told people all this event I listed

If Jesus was a God he would have to people to worship him only

If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)

Why was Jesus without a human father? What was Allah trying to achieve? It's be and it's be of Allah,

tell me who is the father and Mother of Adam..were Adam (A.S) was born from a woman because all us are in the same categories as human being (PLEASE I DEMAND ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION)

You think Jesus should have stopped his crucifixion if He was God,
Do you have the power to decide what God will or will not do?
When Allah changed his shape, did he ask you for your permission?
Is it beneath Allah to change into another shape other than his real shape?

Don't change the topic.
Address these points then we can go to to wherever you want


Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith.
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?


Are any of these untrue?

Expanse2020:
Did you know that there is a lie in that verse
Because David was also called only begotten son
Also isreal are also begotten son
ASLO Abraham

Jesse is the father of David!
Terah is the Father of Abraham!
Isaac is the Father of Israel!
Israel is also a Nation!

Only Donkeys wouldn't know what a figurative expression is.

Only Jesus is both uniquely both Figuratively a Son and Literally a son.

AntiChristian:
K.

K. K. K.
Confounded as usual

Expanse2020:
Are you that daft that you cannot understand English again...
The hadiths said when Allah shows some of people what they were worship during the resurrection day, every each people will follow what they worship (Sun,Moon, Scripture of 3 in 1, water, snake,Bull) but only Muslim will remain standing, then another shape will appear and the Muslim will said we seek refuge from this creation from Allah only then Allah will appear on his own true form and said I am your lord which you used to worship...

So what confuses you about simple English..
But Jesus will denied you because you are doing another thing to what he brought during his time... He didn't clap, sing,dance, he didn't false people to paid or instruct them to pay it
He doesn't told you to worship 3in 1 rather didn't call himself a God..It's inside the both bible and Quran that he will denied you..

PLEASE ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU EARLIER

Focus on the highlights in Yellow.
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
2/4. Is Allah entering into his creation?

Expanse2020:
If Jesus is a God he should have stop what happened to him on the cross said by the bible
He should have told Judas that you will betrayed me and remove him from the 12 disciples (because of the unrighteous act)

If Jesus was a God he would have to people to worship him only
If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)
Find answers to that first

You think you have the right or power to decide what God can do or what He cannot do?

Muslims are always creating Allah according to their imagination. This is why you wouldn't recognise Allah when he came to you Muslims in another shape other than you want him to be.

Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Some people said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He said, "Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the sun when it is not hidden by clouds?" They replied, "No, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)." He said, "Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the moon when it is full and not hidden by clouds?" They replied, No, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)!" He said, "So you will see Him (your Lord) on the Day of Resurrection similarly Allah will gather all the people and say, 'Whoever used to worship anything should follow that thing. 'So, he who used to worship the sun, will follow it, and he who used to worship the moon will follow it, and he who used to worship false deities will follow them; and then only this nation (i.e., Muslims) will remain, including their hypocrites. Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, "I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) added, "I will be the first to cross it. And the invocation of the Apostles on that Day, will be 'Allahumma Sallim, Sallim (O Allah, save us, save us!),' and over that bridge there will be hooks Similar to the thorns of As Sa'dan (a thorny tree).....


1. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
2. Is Allah entering into his creation?

AntiChristian:
k.

Suddenly went dumb as the Truth that will set you free is bitter and you don't want it

AntiChristian:
Verses have contexts don't they!
What's the context?

What I can see is this
1. Allah decree that Every Muslim must enter hell fire as it is inevitable
2. Later, Allah will now remove you Muslims from the fire and leave the evil doers on their knees without redemption from the fire
3. Allah was silent on the time duration you will spend in hell fire before he removes you.


Have I said anything out of context?
If I have, let me know what I said out of context.

AntiChristian:
One verse without context!
Foolishness!

What is the context of Quran 19:71-72: except you want to manufacture a new meaning for it.

Is the words of Allah not clear again in Arabic?

Is Death annihilation in Islam?

AntiChristian:
Foolishness is quoting the Qur'an like John 3:16 without context!

Death doesn't save anyone!
After death it's the grave and judgement!
You thought you're saved!

Wait till you die!

Why don't you explain the context of
Quran 19:71-72
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمٗا مَّقۡضِيّٗا
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord .....

You can't escape going to hell fire until Allah later remove you probably after a million years.

This should scare you. Why should you first enter hell before Allah removes you?


You have not answered:
Why will God first have to temporarily put some people in hell fire with the hope of removing them later?

This is a deceit of satan.

AntiChristian:
We are trying our best to prepare for death! There's no use being afraid of what will come eventually and can even come at any time!

If one of your Gods can die others can too!
Allah is far above all such description!

So why threaten a person who is saved by God with death: isn't it a lame threat?

It is you who need to be afraid of death: do you have an assurance of salvation?


Quran 19:71
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمٗا مَّقۡضِيّٗا
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

This should scare you my friend!

Why will God first have to temporarily put some people in hell fire with the hope of removing them later?

This is a deceit of satan.

AntiChristian:
Yeah, right! They are theist too!

They are Muslims because they slam their heads on the ground towards an object. In your case, the Cube in Mecca

AntiChristian:
You won't be the one to determine that!
Many people never believed in Jesus's death and will enter paradise!

Fool yourself.
The sacrifice of Christ was for those who had long been dead before Him and those after. You can choose to stubbornly believe a lie, it's your choice: just like I am obligated to speak the truth to you (even if you will hate me for it) but Inwill not be guilty of not explaining the plan of salvation to you

John 5:43:
"I have come in the name of My Father. You do not receive Me. If another person comes in his own name, you will receive him."

Of course, Mohammed perfectly fit into this scripture.

Quran 19:71
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمٗا مَّقۡضِيّٗا
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

Only within the fire you will realize that Allah has mislead you exactly like Iblis.
Did Allah not mislead Iblis into committing sin?

finallybusy:
One man, three accounts. Guy, you need professional help or spiritual deliverance.

What you you mean by one account, three accounts?

AntiChristian:
Error 404!

This is why you will perish in your stubborn but willful ignorance!

AntiChristian:
Salvation my soak away!

A time will come when you will say like Iblis that Allah has mislead you.

The truth sets free!
What do you think happens to a person who doesn't care about having the Truth?

Such will perish in stubborn ignorance!

Expanse2020:
Starting from the forefather
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists. (imron 67)

“Indeed, We have revealed to you, as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book.” (Holy Qur’an 4:163)

“And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.” (The Holy Qur’an 6:84)

What did they called people for to WORSHIP ONLY ONE GOD to submit yourself to the almighty God.
And who are the submitters MUSLIM..
JESUS WAS NEVER A CHRISTIAN OR WORSHIP HIMSELF OR TOLD PEOPLE TO WORSHIP HIM ..
HE DIDNT SAID YOU SHOULD WORSHIPS 3 IN 1 NETCAFE ..

MAY ALMIGHTY GUIDE SO THAT YOU DONT DIE ON THAT MISLEADING PATH... IF you die on it toor.. wá gbà inside the grave

What is the name of the Religion brought by Abraham? What is your evidence?

What is the name of the Religion brought by Moses? What is your evidence?

What is the name of the Religion brought by Adam? What is your evidence?

Talk is cheap!
You can claim all you want, but it doesn't make it the truth!

You are the one who is mislead.
This is why Islam has to be propped up with cascades of lies to exist.

You claim that Allah is unlike anything in creation, yet every characteristics of Allah is not different from that of Iblis.

Ask yourself this Question:
1. Why's did Allah send Jesus to the world only to destroy the message of Christ and creating Christianity?
2. Why was Jesus without a human father? What was Allah trying to achieve?
3. Why is it that Jesus is the only human who creates life as Allah?
4. Why is it that Jesus is the only human with Allah and he is alive for more than 2000 years now?

You don't know BUT you wouldn't ask.

Expanse2020:
Your brother in South East de do d same so stop crying

In the name of who!?
Certainly not Jesus.

But your people relish killing and destroying others as a mark of obedience to both Allah and his messanger

AntiChristian:
You will soon die like Jesus!
You never reach 33!

As a Christian, I am not afraid to die. Death is home coming for me. I can only die when it is my TIME: other than this , no Allah not Muslim nor anyone have power of my life.

Too bad, it is you who is afraid to die. Quran 19:71-72 says what happens to you. You must first stay in hell fire only to discover that Allah has no power to remove you from your imprisonment!

Too bad, as Allah misled Iblis, you have also been mislead

AntiChristian:
But what we have in the picture is not how Muslims from the time of Muhammad perform Sujud!
Jesus too head-slammed for his God as we do for same God!

Then you must admit using the same criteria that the Buddhists are Muslims. They slam heads don't they?

AntiChristian:
Muslims don't have their elbows touch their knees!
And anyway you look at it na prostration!
Jesus slammed his face like us!

I have shown you your main criteria for a Muslim: head slamming before an object.
Do you slam heads? Yes!
Do you face the Kaaba and the black stone? Yes!

I get it, "Muslims don't have their elbows touch their knees", can you show with evidence that Jesus did not have His elbows touch His knees?

BTW:
Your fellow Muslim attached: Is his hands touching his knees?

MightySparrow:
Yeah, there's a little we can do about. Preaching and encouraging them.

May God give us Grace to succeed in reaching out to Muslims for their salvation!

AntiChristian:
May Allah punish you and them together!

Of course, Lives does not matter to you as a Muslim.
May Allah do what!?
I laugh at both you ,your prophet and your Allah to scorn!
You think I am alone!?
I bear the Mark of God in Christ and I am always surrounded by His Angels.

What power do you think Allah has over me?
Zero! Not in this world nor the next!

How do you expect me to be terrified of the him when he can only raise the dead by using the carcass of a Cow!

The truth is bitter!

MightySparrow:
Except for God's deliverance. Indoctrination is a terrible thing. It doesn't matter what is taken in, once it gets to the heart and germinates, to uproot is very difficult.

The funny thing about it is that anybody can be indoctrinated: literates and illiterates alike. When it comes to religious things, you are very sure of what you believe beyond reason. This is what makes Islam pathetic. Most of the scholars are illiterates. Professors of medicine, philosophy, engineering, Law etc will have to submit their learning to 'divine' revelations that are contrary to reason.

My concern with islam is the several cascades of lies and misinformation required to prop it up. Yet, even with these lies exposed, many will still hold on to whatever they can hold in the religion.

Indeed those of us who are saved by Chriost have been saved purely by Grace

AntiChristian:
Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence?



K.

Behold your brothers in Islam: the religion of peace (only when you are dead)!

Expanse2020:
You should tell us the religion the Jesus brought to earth
You should tell us the religion the Jesus did on this Earth

Come and see the Muslim faithfuls doing what they know how to do best.

And you think this is from God!?

DuaWorrior:
May Allah punish you with intense pain for one week for this blasphemy, so you will be careful what you say to Muslims.

See exactly how Islam unhindered is

sacajawea:
Why help him??
Do you know his story?
It's probably his Karma. He may be very deserving of the Suffering he is going through.
Cringey rubbish

Could it also be that the old man selflessly helped somebody in need in the past?

MightySparrow:
Jesus said it that when he came they didn't believe him but when another would come in his own name, they will believe him

It is quite unfortunate that a lot of sincere people are going to hell because of the fraud of a man whose deity impassontes the true God and he impersonates the prophet of God.
If only that these Muslims will stop for once and ask themselves some important questions: unfortunatly, the chains of their mind is too strong to allow that

MightySparrow:
You got it brother. Can you see the reason I call Islam LIELAM?

Mohammed had three daughters but cannot have a son. . Oh the ayat off thee daughters is cast by Satan.


Mohammed had his revelations from greed (Moneylam); sex (Sexlam),and political lies using divinity to control people.
That fellow is an undisputed generational crook.

The more you research into his life and lifestyle, the more you will discover he didn't have anything with the God of Israel. No single prophet from Israel is immoral as this fellow.

His greed, lust, and crave for rulership sent him to Arabs.

What amazes me is how billion of people were sold this faulty man as a replacement for the Messiah AND they swallowed the liess hook, line and sinker.

The spirit of deceit is strong indeed.

DuaWorrior:
Muhammad (SAW) wasn't a rich man. He went hungry many times.

1. It seems you do not know that 20% of the spoils of a battle is for mohammed
2. If Mohammed was not a rich man, how come he has several slaves feeding from his household?
3. Mohammed was not a rich man, tell me what he does for a living other than spoils of war?

If you need evidence, I will oblige you sir!