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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russian Protesters Demand Kremlin Elite Be Sent To Frontlines by TenQ: 7:36pm On Jun 15, 2024

Nodogragra4me:
Russia doesn't have a dependable AD system. Their most advance in service is SU 400.

Ukraine has been using ATACMS bombs from America fired from Himars to make them into iron camdemn material and they ran back to Russia and factory to get an SU 500 that had never seen battle, never been used in drills because 400 and 300 is now taken out once found by drones

Even their nuclear missile early warning radar site was attacked inside Russia with long-range drones.. No AD system stopped those drones

Take note that The ATACMS bombs been sent to Ukraine is actually the versions that the US ARMY wants off their arsenal not the recent models and it is effective against Russia AD Systems

I agree with you. This is why the Nuclear war rhetorics by Russia may be their downfall.
Yes, a nuclear war is catastrophically destructive to the nations at war BUT he who has the better air defence will be better off. The Patriot system has proven in this war to be my h better that both the SU300 and 400. Unfortunately, the SU 500 has not shown any real promise as a capable air defence system.

Moreover, because Russia has to hit several Nuclear armed NATO nations at the same time (which is not feasible) and all of them just need to concentrate on Moscow, Russia is most likely the biggest looser in a Nuclear war.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russian Protesters Demand Kremlin Elite Be Sent To Frontlines by TenQ: 6:47pm On Jun 15, 2024

Dpharisee:
Russia faces existential threat if they allow their arch enemy NATO to occupy Ukraine amd completely surround Russia with US military bases, most Russians know this and people like the late Prigozhin who led a mutiny against Russian military leaders are angry at Putin for going a bit soft on Ukraine instead of behaving like Netanyahu in Gaza by not giving a hoot about civilian casualties as long as the goal is achieved.
Putin according to western media polls is more popular than all the G7 leaders meeting in Italy

Russia has overspent their resources for this war. They had not treated Ukraine with any kids gloves but things are not working out.

Yes, they underestimated Ukraine and thought that Zelensky will flee and they will just take over the whole of Ukraine. Unfortunately, this Ukraine is different from the Ukraine of 2008

This war actually exposed Russias technological weakness. Except they go back to the drawing board, they are at best the 6th or 7th most powerful army in the world.

The only card they have left is their Nuclear arsenal: unfortunately, it's a useless card as they aren't the only ones with nuclear weapons. They can't use theirs and others will scamper off and beg for peace. There is no winner in a nuclear war. The countries with the most superior air defence may have an edge and this is certainly not Russia.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 4:04pm On Jun 15, 2024*

AntiChristian:
Show us with proofs how the context of "all of you" above refers to only Muslims as the Prophet and the Qur'an was sent to mankind (Muslims and non-muslims) and jinns.

Thank God you now acknowledge that you'd be in the fire before Allah would remove them at a later time?
And
What matters to me is that Allah says that his slaves will enter the Fire with the evildoers!

1. Why would Allah's slaves first need to enter the fire?
2. Since the time you will spend in the fire is undetermined (10 years, 10 thousand years, 10 million years etc): doesn't it concern you that the Best of the Deceivers is just tricking you into the eternal fire?
3. Finally, why do you think Allah will use Jews and Christians as a ransom for you Muslims from hell fire?

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 3:58pm On Jun 15, 2024

AntiChristian:
Show me then where Jesus said you should believe in his death to be saved?

The rich ruler asked about external life. Show us where Jesus told him to believe in his death?

The criminal crucified with Jesus never believed in his death and was saved!

Go back to my post and answer my questions!

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 1:49pm On Jun 15, 2024

Expanse2020:
What should I said to the person creating his own version of bible when bible said the likeness of God cannot be compare in this earth.... And he stated that God was on Earth . 🤣🤣🤣
who believe satan the was the king,lord and God of this earth
The Satan rules this earth and conspired with some guys to kill little of urs🤣🤣🤣🤣

You are a blatant liar as my God can be visible on earth anytime He chooses.
So that you might conclude by yourself that you are a chronic liar. I will show you from the bible that which is impossible for Allah to do.

Here is God appearing to Adam and Eve in a form suitable for him (without ceasing to be God)
Gen 3:8-10:
"And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called to Adam, and said to him, Where are you? And he said, I heard your voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

Here is God appearing to Abraham in a form suitable for him (without ceasing to be God)
Gen 18:1:
"And the LORD appeared to him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;"

Gen 26:2:
"And the LORD appeared to him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell you of:"

Here is Moses reporting of God appearing to him to the children of Israel

Exo 3:16:
"Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say to them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared to me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt:"

You should apologise for lying about the God of the Jews and Christians.

Again and back to square one: Answer my Questions:

1. Can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?
If he cannot, he isn't God ?
2. Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
3. Does Allah have the ability to enter his creation without ceasing to be God
4. I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

I expect you as usual to escape by making baseless repetitions thinking that it will free you from the consequences of the Truth!

I gave you a challenge: that you might know that YAHWEH is unlike ANYONE in the Universe
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

Even your deity Allah fails woefully here

I am waiting!

BTW: See how Jesus described Allah

John 12:31:
"Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out."

John 16:11:
"Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged."

2Cor 4:4:
"In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them."
Is Allah not the lord of this world again?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 1:29pm On Jun 15, 2024

AntiChristian:
Where is "all Muslims" written in that verse you quoted?
The statement of the Prophet explained it well. Where did you see the fire you included in the bracket if not from the Prophet's?

Christians are the best liars!

Allah says THERE IS NOT ONE OF YOU that will NOT go down into the Fire (Hell Fire): in other words, there is no EXCEPTION to this

It is ALL of you Including Mohammed (except he is not a Muslim) it is a DECREE of Allah for you!

I am sure you believe the consensus of your Scholars more than the direct DECREE of Allah

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 1:22pm On Jun 15, 2024

AntiChristian:
Jesus is the one speaking and he didn't tell anyone to believe in his death to be saved!

The crucified criminal and the rich ruler were good examples!

He did tell us that.
I gave you scriptures to explain even Islamically, but you refused so that you can peddle your lies .

Go back to the three scripture ls I gave you , read, interpret and come back..

You are on your way to hell except you received mercy from God!

Islam from beginning to the end is deception from the best of Deceivers ala satan
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Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 3:30am On Jun 15, 2024

Expanse2020:
Yahweh is one but not one
Are you kidding
Yahweh is one but also three
Can a single person can stand as a three person
Chaiiiii

Answer my Questions: can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?

If he cannot, he isn't God ?

Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
You won't answer because you know that Allah is not different from creations of God!

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 8:39pm On Jun 14, 2024

Expanse2020:
I wonder how you interpret your own bible...when bible claimed God cannot be on earth but you are hear splitting nonsense..

You have forgotten that God of Israel is one and not three
Hear O isreal our God is one
Hear O isreal my God your God is One

Am now confused how you claimed Yahweh is now three😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Listen to one of your scholars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYKi2kkGuzw?si=6ohrHYTnrwuQfRmr

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 7:53pm On Jun 14, 2024

Expanse2020:
I wonder how you interpret your own bible...when bible claimed God cannot be on earth but you are hear splitting nonsense..

You have forgotten that God of Israel is one and not three
Hear O isreal our God is one
Hear O isreal my God your God is One

Am now confused how you claimed Yahweh is now three😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

The best you can do is to manufacture strawmans and lies!

Yahweh is ONE but not like the oneness of ANYTHING in Creation!
Is it untrue that Allah is one like Iblis is also one!?

I have given you a challenge: are you afraid?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 7:50pm On Jun 14, 2024

AntiChristian:
This is false! Salvation has existed with non-Jews before Jesus came. Didn't God send Jonah to Nineveh and were they not saved when they repented?
Jesus didn't die for them to be saved! You lied that salvation came to mankind because of his death! This is a big lie! Jesus never told the rich ruler to believe in his death! Jesus didn't tell the criminal crucified with him to believe in his death to be saved! Christianity is a collation of lies heaped around theology!

(A BRIDGE) WILL BE LAID ACROSS HELL AND I (MUHAMMAD) SHALL BE THE FIRST AMONGST THE APOSTLES TO CROSS IT WITH MY FOLLOWERS Does the words in capital means they entered Hell? If you crossed a bridge over hell then you've entered hell right? Once i cross the third mainland bridge in Lagos i don enter sea! You are on something! This is whom FXmasterz is supporting!

Did Jesus go to heaven straight when he died for three days? Where did he go with Biblical verses?

Self deluded human beings who will take the words of their prophet over that of their supposed Allah.

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

I understand that the bridge is down and not up.

Quran 19:72
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."

Verse 71 says
1. ALL Muslims will enter Hell fire
2. It is a Fixed inescapable Decree of Allah
Verse 72 says
1. After an undetermined time, Allah will remove you Muslims and leave the bad people hobbling on their knees

Continue to cook up lies for yourself!

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 7:43pm On Jun 14, 2024

AntiChristian:
This is not Jesus telling anyone to believe in his death to be saved!

This is not Jesus telling anyone to believe in his death to be saved!

1. I asked you to explain the verses, you chose not to because it condemns you
2. Check again. In all the cases , Jesus was the one speaking.

But that it might be fulfilled that

John 3:19:
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

Stay in your self deception

Politics › Re: Russia Denies Coercing Nigerian Students To Fight In Ukraine by TenQ: 4:13pm On Jun 14, 2024

helinues:
The news was obvious lies.

Why are Russian citizens not complaining about loosing their loved ones in the war in Ukraine? The answer is simple, most of the Russia troops at the front of the war are mercenaries

No!
Most of them are from the villages and outskirts of Russia. Most I'm Moscow don't even know that anything is going on

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 6:27pm On Jun 13, 2024*

Expanse2020:
Guy you are dumb OOO
The bible said in this Earth there is nothing can be compare to him..and you are still adamantly that he lived in the earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣 toor you Sabi pass those KjV self

I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

Your Allah fails miserably this simple test, doesn't he? According to your prophet, Allah has to come down and leave his throne above the 7th heaven to come to the lowest heaven.

Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Of 10 Questions Christians Won't Like To Answer - What's The Purpose Of Life? by TenQ: 6:18pm On Jun 13, 2024

AntiChristian:
The numbers of the worshippers of Allah can't be measured in reality as only Allah know best those who have worshipped him.
And someone maybe a Christian in real life and die a Muslim just before death! And it could be vice versa!

Each Prophets will be followed by their followers on the resurrection day! And Allah is not judged! He is the Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)!

Allah created us to worship Him alone and He did send messengers to us!
So you are on your own!

You don't get the point.
The supposed almighty created humans to worship him BUT failed in his mission as majority of the people don't.

This is a failure sir!

AntiChristian:
Allah says what means:
And whosoever strives, he strives only for himself. Verily, Allah is free of all wants from the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns, and all that exists). Qur'an 29:6
Allah deserves to be worshipped because He is our creator and Lord!
Where does Allah seek your validation? The river that forgets its origin will get dried!

Can you open mouth and say this same nonsense as regard your own God that calls his name Jealous and himself a jealous god!
Do not worship any other god, for YHWH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14

Exodus 20:3
You shall have no other gods before Me.

Exodus 20:5
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on their children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,

Deuteronomy 4:24
For Yahweh your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

Joshua 24:19
But Joshua said to the people, "You are not able to serve Yahweh, for He is a holy God; He is a jealous God; He will not forgive your rebellion or your sins.

Yahweh does not NEED our worship to be validated. He created the universe for How own pleasure. For us as humans, the earth is a school of selection.

Why does Allah NEED to be worshipped?

In case you don't understand,
My Parent do NOT need me to greet them daily, however, it is my responsibility to greet them when I see them

AntiChristian:
Who created Jinns? Allah created them and all things! Jinns are like humans with freewill and even more powerful in accomplishing extraordinary tasks that an average human cannot accomplish easily!

So Allah will judge both Mankind and Jinn!
Whoever passes will enter Paradise and whoever fails will enter hell!

Do you know that Jesus does not entertain Demons! He casts them out Because like satan, they are UNCLEAN spirits!

But Allah seems to fratanize with them.
When we say Allah is satan, you will say we are exergirating!

No wonder, some of the 99 names of Allah is exactly that of satan!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 5:56pm On Jun 13, 2024*

AntiChristian:
Nowhere did Jesus ever preach to anyone to believe in his death to be saved!

This was invent by the creeds of Christianity!

Please explain this scripture as best as you know how

1. John 3:14-15:
"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
A. How was the serpent lifted up?
B. How was the Jesus lifted up?

2. Luke 24:44-47:
"And he said to them, These are the words which I spoke to you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said to them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
What did Jesus do with His disciples here?

3. Mat 20:28:
"Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered to, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many."

Unfortunately, a Donkey will remain a donkey even if you take it to the river for a thorough bath!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 12:43pm On Jun 13, 2024

AntiChristian:
I have given you evidence! Now you can bring your evidence to the contrary! I agree i lied! Now bring your holy spirit truth with proof make we see!

You gave no single evidence. How can you say that the evidence that the Torah and Injeel were revealed at once was the Qur'an?
Was the Qur'an written before, at the same time or after the whole bible?

AntiChristian:
Na you no get intelligence at all! I have given you the usage of Kitab! So if you no gree then bring your proof!

So far as the information can be written, transferred and stored then it is a Kitab translated as book. And that's it.

Can you show me a single Book that exists but is unpublished?
Why do you enjoy telling lies?

AntiChristian:
The Injeel, Tawrah, Zabur and others are the words of Allah.

Only the Qur'an are words of Allah!
Did Allah write Gen 1:1?

AntiChristian:
Allah spoke to Moses and wrote the Torah for him. The Injeel was never written but revealed to Jesus!

Another thoughtless lie of Muslims.
Please on what material did Allah write the Torah for Moses. On Paper, Papyrus or Animal Skin.

I am waiting!

AntiChristian:
Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Injeel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous”
[al-Maa’idah 5:46]

This is suficient evidence that the Books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are not words of Allah - Injeel!

Luke said in Luke 1:1-4 writing to a certain Theophilus:
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

The evidence has been stated before and previous scriptures didn't survive to give us clear truth on it.
Gabriel is the messenger of revelations sent to Prophets!

Allah says what means:
Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ): "Whoever is an enemy to Jibrael (Gabriel) (let him die in his fury), for indeed he has brought it (this Quran) down to your heart by Allah's Permission, confirming what came before it [i.e. the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] and guidance and glad tidings for the believers.

The Injeel Allah revealed to Jesus is not four essentially different Gospels nor letters written to different Churches by many people Jesus never met at all. They are just books some church fathers agree upon to be scriptures about 360 years after Jesus!

The burden of proof is for you to bring. You said Waraqah taught Muhammad the Bible. So show us the evidence not just hypothesis!

The miracles of Jesus in the Qur'an does not include water to wine despite wine being permitted at a earlier period of Islam! The miracles of Jesus in the Bible didn't include turning clay birds to live ones! Which Gospel has this?

Which part of your Bible was copied let us know if it is John 3:16 or others?

According to your Islamic sources, how did Mohammed know the name of the demon that visited him in the cave? Was it not Waraqa (who even though not there) said it was Gabriel? Did Mohammed know of any Gabriel before this?

You are the one making baseless claims based on your fantasy and the lies of your islamic scholars.
1. If the Injeel was given to Jesus, present one verse from the book with evidence?
2. Is Allah telling lies when he said Mohammed's name is found in the scripture in the hands of the Christians?
3. Is it another lie that Waraqa used to copy the Injeel: then you must admit that the Injeel must have hundreds of not thousands of copies. Thus, show us a page from the Injeel of Jesus
4. If indeed the Injeel is the Words of Allah, are you affirming that Allah couldn't protect his words?

To help you, Which of these is wrong
Qur'an 2:41
And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone.

Qur'an 2:89
And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers.

Qur'an 2:101
And when there cometh unto them a messenger from Allah, confirming that which they possess, a party of those who have received the Scripture fling the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they knew not,

Is they are not errors, then onus is on you to show us how the scriptures (Injeel) disappeared after the life time of Mohammed!

Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Of 10 Questions Christians Won't Like To Answer - What's The Purpose Of Life? by TenQ: 12:11pm On Jun 13, 2024

AntiChristian:
He created man and Jinn to worship Him alone!

Two problems
1. Allah failed in his mission if he created man and demons to worship him but this is not happening as from time immemorial, the number of non-worshiper of Allah far exceeds those who worship Allah.
Did Allah succeed in his mission?

2. So he needs to be worshipped to feel validated!? What kind of deity is this.
This is a sign of incompleteness: you you agree?
Why does Allah need to be worshipped?

3. Why is Allah comfortable with demons?

Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Of 10 Questions Christians Won't Like To Answer - What's The Purpose Of Life? by TenQ: 9:59am On Jun 13, 2024

AntiChristian:
Allah has a name which is Al-Ghaniy. It means Free of Want, Independent, Rich!
Allah has another name which is As-Samad. It means Self sufficient, whom all creatures need, who neither eats nor drink!

And no one is jumping into any well!
Revelation 4:11 are the words from the 24 Elders and not from God!

The question was:

So, why did Allah create the worlds if he is all sufficient in himself?

Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Of 10 Questions Christians Won't Like To Answer - What's The Purpose Of Life? by TenQ: 7:36am On Jun 13, 2024

AntiChristian:
You try o! But the context of the verse exposed you!

the twenty-four elders fall down before the One seated on the throne, and they worship Him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying: “Worthy are You, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for You created all things; by Your will they exist and came to be.” Revelations 4:10-11

Na the 24 elders dey worship the One seated on the throne and they said those words you quoted!

Where did God tell you Christians the purpose of creation!

Revelation 4:11
"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

This is the purpose of creation. every thing was created ONLY for God's pleasure.

If you don't like it, jump inside the well.

YAHWEH is not the Insecure Allah who created beings to validate his status as Allah.

God is All sufficient by Himself, thus, God's needs nothing from us to make Him complete as God .

Allah is the one who needs to be validated!

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 11:57pm On Jun 12, 2024

AntiChristian:
All your question on the Injeel is still the same!

Allah says what means: Those Messengers! We preferred some to others; to some of them Allah spoke (directly); others He raised to degrees (of honour); and to 'Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), We gave clear proofs and evidences, and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibrael (Gabriel)]. If Allah had willed, succeeding generations would not have fought against each other, after clear Verses of Allah had come to them, but they differed - some of them believed and others disbelieved. If Allah had willed, they would not have fought against one another, but Allah does what He likes. Qur'an 2:253

So Jesus was supported with Gabriel who is the messenger of scripture!

The Qur'an was revealed piecemeal for 23 years while the Injeel and Torah were revealed at once to the respective Prophets!
And those who disbelieve say: "Why is not the Quran revealed to him all at once?" Thus (it is sent down in parts), that We may strengthen your heart thereby. And We have revealed it to you gradually, in stages. (It was revealed to the Prophet SAW in 23 years.). Qur'an 25:32

Talk is cheap. I ask for evidence.
You can't peddle the same lie and call it the evidence.

How do you know that the Torah and Injeel were revealed at once?;Every evidence show the contrary! Can you explain how the history of the Jews were revealed at once?

AntiChristian:
Why was the Injeel called a Book?
In Qur'an 2:2, Allah says what means: This is the Book (the Quran), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].

But we all know Qur'an was not yet a Book as at then when that verse was revealed!

So the definition of a book is as i have defined before. It can be written or unwritten!
It can be learnt by heart and transferable!

See how you bury your intelligence just to make Allah and his messanger Mohammed look okay!

What if I told you that I have a book titled "Lies Muslims want people to believe about Islam" but I haven't written it yet. Is this not a display of gross ignorance by you.

It cannot be a book unless it is written!

AntiChristian:
So the Injeel was a revelation of what Jesus preached as in Mark 1:14
Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God,

The Gospel he preached was revealed to him as Jesus can of himself do nothing.
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. John 5:30 So he judges as he hear!

Allah never once called the Injeel the message Jesus preached. It was always a book. And isn't it silly for you to use the bible as an evidence for things neither your Prophet or Allah never once insinuated?

Is this not a fallacy: I asked for evidence and you are giving me report written almost 700 years after the event

What is your evidence that Jesus was supported with Gabriel who is the messenger of scripture?

There is no record of such in any of the previous scriptures: if you know of any, let us know.

What is your evidence that the Holy Spirit is Jibril? Every extant scripture disagree with you!

So Injeel is a Book!
A book can be unwritten before it becomes written!
I want to write a Book! The book i want to write...
I haven't written it yet i can still call it a book!

AntiChristian:
Injeel is not Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Jesus wasn't of course carrying those Gospels around to preach as they were written about 35-80 years after Jesus!

What is your evidence that Mathew, Mark, Luke and John or the New Testament is not the Injeel or is it just a baseless conjecture?

Then you will have to show us the copy of the Injeel Waraqa used to write and the Injeel with the Arab Christians at the time of Mohammed.
Why is it so easy for you to fabricate conjectures?

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 11:33pm On Jun 12, 2024

Expanse2020:
So are you telling the verse quoted from the bible was wrong.. that nobody can be compare to God in all earth🤣🤣🤣 this guy Kno bible pass those who wrote am sha

Only Donkeys will not be able to see that this scripture actually demonstrates the Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient nature of Yahweh.

Yahweh is everywhere in Space and Time , Physical and Spiritual.

Can Allah enter his creation without ceasing to be God? No!

Can Allah be in one than one location at a time? No! Just as a man cannot be in more than one location at any time.

Can Allah have a son without a girlfriend? No! Just like any earthly man cannot have a child without a woman.

Sorry: Allah is very much like dumb Creations with every limitations inherent in them.

Tell me, why did your prophet compare Allah with the Dajjal?

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 3:09pm On Jun 12, 2024

The God of Israel says that nothing is IMPOSSIBLE for Him to do. Yahweh can enter into His creation without ceasing to be God!

Expanse2020:
Exodus 9
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth
Are you saying the bible is lying or you know more than the author of bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bible said no one can be compare to God on Earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣 here you are saying God enter a creation to come to save you....bala blue, blue blah blah

There is NONE and no one like My God. Nothing in creation is like Him. No one including Allah can be compared with Yahweh!

My God can simultaneously be inside and outside His creation because He is a Trinity.

Tell me, who else can be both fully inside and fully outside his creation apart from Yahweh?
There is non

Allah CANNOT be inside and outside his creation at the same time, can he? No!

Can satan be inside and outside anything in creation at the same time? No!

You can see how Mohammed used Taoheed to clip the wings of Allah!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 1:26pm On Jun 12, 2024

AntiChristian:
Injeel was revealed to Jesus, but was it in a Book form? It is agreed upon even by Christians that Jesus did not write anything of the Gospel down! So where is the denial?

What is your evidence that a book called Injeel was revealed to Jesus?
According to Islam the Injeel is NOT a message,It is a BOOK given to Jesus

AntiChristian:
That's the usefulness of the scripture. Or did Jesus command anyone to write anything of his sayings even in your new testament?

You said:
The Injeel was meant to be taught and preached to others which Jesus did!

I said, who told you this?
Where did you get this information?

AntiChristian:
No it is not! A Book is once unwritten before being written!

Jesus didn't write any Book!
Jesus didn't directly command nor commission any of His disciples to write any book!

How then would you say the Jesus was given a Book called Injeel?

AntiChristian:
Allah is far from telling lies. We should say your brain can't comprehend Him. And it really can't. It is believed that the message Jesus preached during his ministry was the essence of the Injeel. This was passed down through oral tradition and later recorded by some of his disciples and followers. So when Allah mentions the Injeel in the Quran, it refers to the original message and teachings of Jesus that were revealed to him by Allah, even though Jesus did not personally write it down as a book.

Maybe the Arabic of Allah isn't so good that his messages are confusing.

I have asked you before, where did you get this information?
Was it from Allah or from Mohammed?

Are you denying that the Injeel is a Book?
Because, you seem to be saying that the Injeel is a message (but where did you get this information): can you give an Islamic reference?

The Qur'an attests to some Books that he gave
The Torah
The Zabur
The Injeel
The Qur'an

I don't recall any of them being a message as you seem to be insinuating!

So, my initial question still stands:
Knowing that Jesus did not write any book, So which Injeel was Allah referring to as with the Christians (between their hands)
Is Allah telling lies?

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 12:00pm On Jun 12, 2024

Expanse2020:
God didn't need to enter anybody to come to this earth to control all the universe..
You don't think for once JESUS as a God come to Earth but who controls the other billions of planets since the God his now on earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exodus 9
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth

Then why did you have eyes but do not see
Why did you have brain but not process

I didn't ask you about NEED. I asked you about ABILITY!
The God of Israel says that nothing is IMPOSSIBLE for Him to do. Yahweh can enter into His creation without ceasing to be God!

Allah is limited and thus he CANNOT enter his creation: it is impossible!

It is certain that Yahweh is not the same personality as Allah
Is the name of Allah Yahweh?
Is Allah the Father of Jesus?

Foreign Affairs › Re: Two Indians Recruited By Russia Killed In Ukraine by TenQ: 9:39am On Jun 12, 2024

TerrouMuda:
Please someone with the connection should help me.

It must be a joke!

Foreign Affairs › Re: Two Indians Recruited By Russia Killed In Ukraine by TenQ: 9:39am On Jun 12, 2024

ElSudani:
Let him.go. Ukrainian drones will solve his problems.

He desires to invest his life and future for $2000: the risk to reward ratio is insane

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Two Indians Recruited By Russia Killed In Ukraine by TenQ: 9:25am On Jun 12, 2024

TerrouMuda:
Please send me the link.

You will be trained for two weeks and sent straight to lead the regular army in a meat wave assault tp pave way for the regular Russian Army. The casualty rate amongst this group is extremely high o!

You will probably not survive the first engagement.

$2000 is not worth your life nor is it worth being maimed for life.

Please take my advice.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 8:37pm On Jun 11, 2024

SIRTee15:
TenQ longest time. I think U should have a social media platform to expose the lies of Muhammed.

Antichristian what's the oldest extant manuscript of the COMPLETE Quran u guys have.

I'm more of a private person o: although on a personal level I preach to Muslims.

He should give it's age.

The Birmingham Quran manuscript is just two pages of containing extracts from three surahs. This is why the oldest Qur'an the have is according to the recitation of one unreliable liar called Hafs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 8:31pm On Jun 11, 2024

SIRTee15:
Narrated by Aisha

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah bin Naufil bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Arabic letters. He would write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as God wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.

Bukhari 1:1:3. See also Bukhari 4:55:605; Bukhari 9:87:111; Muslim 1:301.
So tell me what gospel is he translating to Arabic with the help of Allah. Remember he's a Christian convert.

There's only one version of the old testament and that's the Tanakh- the Hebrew bible, all versions U mentioned are simply translation of the Tanakh.
Septuagint is the greek translation of the Hebrew bible, Masoretic text is the same as Tanakh- it's the authoritative Tanakh of the Jewish religion.
Codex leningradensis is the oldest extant copy of the
Masoretic text we have with us.

Dead sea scrolls is not a bible. It's ancient extant manuscripts of Jewish religious literatures and includes books in the tanakh. There are other literatures found in the dead sea scrolls that are not
related to the tanakh.
Pls do more reading b4 posting it will help with your ignorance.

Guy u mentioning extants manuscripts of the greek NT. Some of them are just a page of their book!!!!
It's like someone saying Birmingham manuscript is a copy of the Qur'an.
Read guy...read.

Did Muhammed speak to Jews in Medina?
Did he speak to Waraka who had the injeel with him
Communication with your business partner is not limited to trade, U discuss other things...don't U?

The concept is to show U the injeel and tawrat were not isolated from Muhammed.

Guy we already have the tanakh 100 yrs b4 the dead sea scrolls.
The Jews had canonised their scriptures and compiled it into one book called tanakh 150 yrs b4 dead sea scrolls were written.
Manuscripts in the dead sea scrolls are just the oldest extant manuscripts of the old testament books that we have.
Do U know what extant means? because he be like say na English dey worry U!!

Antichristian may want to explain why all these Qur'ans are different.

Hafs
Warsh
Qalun
al-Duri
al-Bazzi
Qunbul
al-Suri
Ibn `Amir
Hisham
Parts of Yemen
Ibn Dhakwan
Khallad
al-Kisa'i
al-Duri
Abu'l-Harith
Ibn Wardan
Ibn Jamaz
Ya`qub al-Hashimi
Ruways
Rawh
Khalaf al-Bazzar
Ishaq
Idris al-Haddad
Khalaf

Which one of them is exact copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 8:15pm On Jun 11, 2024

SIRTee15:
Narrated by Aisha

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah bin Naufil bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Arabic letters. He would write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as God wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.

Bukhari 1:1:3. See also Bukhari 4:55:605; Bukhari 9:87:111; Muslim 1:301.
So tell me what gospel is he translating to Arabic with the help of Allah. Remember he's a Christian convert.

There's only one version of the old testament and that's the Tanakh- the Hebrew bible, all versions U mentioned are simply translation of the Tanakh.
Septuagint is the greek translation of the Hebrew bible, Masoretic text is the same as Tanakh- it's the authoritative Tanakh of the Jewish religion.
Codex leningradensis is the oldest extant copy of the
Masoretic text we have with us.

Dead sea scrolls is not a bible. It's ancient extant manuscripts of Jewish religious literatures and includes books in the tanakh. There are other literatures found in the dead sea scrolls that are not
related to the tanakh.
Pls do more reading b4 posting it will help with your ignorance.

Guy u mentioning extants manuscripts of the greek NT. Some of them are just a page of their book!!!!
It's like someone saying Birmingham manuscript is a copy of the Qur'an.
Read guy...read.

Did Muhammed speak to Jews in Medina?
Did he speak to Waraka who had the injeel with him
Communication with your business partner is not limited to trade, U discuss other things...don't U?

The concept is to show U the injeel and tawrat were not isolated from Muhammed.

Guy we already have the tanakh 100 yrs b4 the dead sea scrolls.
The Jews had canonised their scriptures and compiled it into one book called tanakh 150 yrs b4 dead sea scrolls were written.
Manuscripts in the dead sea scrolls are just the oldest extant manuscripts of the old testament books that we have.
Do U know what extant means? because he be like say na English dey worry U!!

Ask antichristian about the whereabouts of
1. The Qur'an of Mohammed collected during his lifetime
2. The Qur'an of Abubaker (which was missing some verses)
3. The Qur'an of Uthman which was a revised edition of Abubaker's Quran.

Ask him how come the Qur'an they use now is from the RECITATION (not from the Qur'an of Mohammed or Abubakar or even Uthman) from a guy called Hafs?

Ask him why no Muslim will take the Hadith from Hafs seriously. Isn't he a hadith fabricator like his father?

And he is talking about oldest bible manuscript.

Ask him about the oldest COMPLETE Manuscript of the (not three or four pages) Qur'an. Let's hear if he would say it's the Birmingham Quran manuscript so that we can laugh

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Forget and Why Does Paul misquote Scriptures? by TenQ: 5:14pm On Jun 11, 2024

Expanse2020:
We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit”".
So did you believe in what has been reveal after Yehesua (AS) if not you are among those will need to straight his head to correct him from the lied he was fed with

If the statement below is true
We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit”".
Then, Allah was beaten by all the people you said beat my God!

If you are correct, Allah is wrong!

Sorry!

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