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Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op):
AbuTwins:
Why no post verbatim what he said instead of the doctoring? You guy sabi tell lies! And you'll end up accusing us of what you are doing!



You are not my teacher and I'm not obliged to answer you, am i?




Even if i answer the argument will be continuous even with clear cut evidences!
And i no get such time to waste!

The concept of spirit is not needed to enter Jannah in Islam!
The probelem is that you rarely have answers to simple questions.
Now, in Islam
Jesus is Ruhullah AND Jibril is Ruh Al-Qudus

1. Is a spirit a created living being or an attribute of Allah?
2. Are angels spirits?
3. Tell me, which spirit is referred to in Qur'an 83:38 and how do you know?

Qur'an 78:38
On the Day when the Spirit and the angels stand in rows, they will not speak except for those to whom the Lord of Mercy gives permission, who will say only what is right.
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op):
AntiChristian:
It is not your fault!
Na the school wey you attend sha!

In literature you can use such words as "Spirit and the angels" where the former is a subset of the latter!
This is for Emphasis!

Go and read about Hendiadys!

And the verse is 78:38 not 83:38!

May the same Allah which you abuse continue to debase you!
1. Are angels spirits?
2. Tell me, which spirit is referred to in Qur'an 83:38 and how do you know?
Qur'an 78:38
On the Day when the Spirit and the angels stand in rows, they will not speak except for those to whom the Lord of Mercy gives permission, who will say only what is right.
Christianity EtcRe: Allah Says All Muslims Will Enter Hell First. See Proofs. by TenQ: 3:40pm On Jun 20, 2024
AntiChristian:
Did you even read the link i included?
I did and I even quoted part of it for you.

AntiChristian:
The self deluded human is the one trying to reinterpret our scriptures for us! The hadith is clear as well as the verse! Muslims will pass over the bridge. And the bridge is over hell.
Wrongdoers among Muslims will fall into it and will be punished for a time.
Tell me, how would the Jews and Christians be used as ransom for you Muslims?
Is this not even suspicious to you?




AntiChristian:
Non-Muslims would have been led to hell already before that!
Only Psychiatric civil engineers think like this! Bridges are set up over something!
Where did you see this?
Where is your Reference?

AntiChristian:
Where did the the verse say "Enter hell"?
That's the bridge of Siraat!
Allah will remove the wrongdoers who has some amount of faith!
Tell me where Allah mentioned the bridge of Sirat?

Allah will remove the wrongdoers who has some amount of faith from where!?
Is it not hell fire?
Foreign AffairsRe: Putin Gifts Kim Jong-un A Russian Bullet Proof Limousine "Aurus Senat" (photos) by TenQ: 7:55am On Jun 20, 2024
darediamond:
What USA have in superiority over Russia is Population not Science. Why is USA fighting RUSSIA in PROXY via NATO and now via UKRAIN if really america with her NATO NONSENSE alliance are up to the task against RUSSAI face-to-face?

I need answer to the raised question above RIGTH now....
I think it is the case of Oliver Twist

When Russia annexed Cremia in 2014, what did NATO do?

Practically nothing except for some lame economic sanctions.

Russia has now come for the whole of Ukraine and all the small neighbours of Russia are afraid (Finland and Sweden).

USA is helping Ukraine protect herself.


1. Is it right to abandon Ukraine to her fate with Russia?
2. Is it Right for Russia to invade a sovereign nation? What about dialogue?
Christianity EtcRe: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by TenQ: 7:45am On Jun 20, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
With evil things shey? James 1:13 smiley
For someone who doesn't know the difference?
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op):
Allah seals this madness of error with
Qur'an 78:38
On the Day when the Spirit and the angels stand in rows, they will not speak except for those to whom the Lord of Mercy gives permission, who will say only what is right.


It is impossible that an angel be the spirit!
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op):
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Christianity EtcRe: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by TenQ: 12:23am On Jun 20, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
This is why you guys need to study the Bible with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Are you guys Christians or Judaists?

According to Jesus Christ is God the cruel one behind evil thoughts?

Why do you people keep reading verses like:

"All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him" Matthew 11:27

Yet you don't grasp that whatever the inspired writers of the Hebrew-Aramaic Scriptures penned down is just a shadow and not the full attribute of the true God?

Well Jesus is the one and only person who knows the father in and out that's why he said the Holy Spirit will continue to reveal the things remaining that his friends need to know {John 16:12-13} according to James a spirit anointed Christians among those referring to the true God as "Abba Father" {Mark 14:36; Romans 8:15} this is what we learned:

When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, NOR DOES HE HIMSELF TRY ANYONE. James 1:13

So i ask you people again:

The idea that Abraham should kill his only son came from God or Satan? Job 1:9-11 compare to Revelations 12:10

Pray for understanding {Proverbs 2:1-5} instead of arguing blindly like Muslims who say their Allah is the same person behind GOOD and EVIL! smiley
Again:

Gen 22:1-2
1. Some time later God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” “Here I am,” he answered.
2. “Take your son,” God said, “your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. Offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.”



God does not TEMPT a person
God may TEST/TRY a person

When bible scholars don't know the difference, it is a pity

Christianity EtcRe: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by TenQ: 7:52pm On Jun 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
A diligent study and thorough meditation on what the scriptures later revealed that the idea to sacrifice Isaac wasn't from God but Satan and since Abraham passed the test Satan left him searching for someone else to accuse on the basis of faith in God!

That's why it wasn't repeated neither does it become a common practice among God's people! smiley
Gen 22:1-2
1. Some time later God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” “Here I am,” he answered.
2. “Take your son,” God said, “your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. Offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.”
Foreign AffairsRe: Putin Gifts Kim Jong-un A Russian Bullet Proof Limousine "Aurus Senat" (photos) by TenQ: 7:44pm On Jun 19, 2024
darediamond:
You think so. Is NATO about just a single country?

Before you start another low level imagination, see what Russia is RIGTH on now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRFPORplVJU?si=FhObHBFeLQXVqyJd
Sentiments aside,
if Russia is struggling with small Ukraine over almost 3 years now, do you think Russia can face USA alone?
The gap in technology is too wide.
I don't know what Russia has that USA doesn't have a superior technology.

To get things in perspective,
Ukraine doesn't have a Navy, yet they have totally annihilated Putin's Black Sea fleet.
Ukraine doesn't have a strong air force, yet they have denied Russia any form of air superiority.

Put sentiments aside, the Russian Bear is strong but it made the mistake of overrating itself.
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op):
The Jews came to ask Mohammed a simple question about the Spirit (as every prophet of old relates with God as a Spirit). If indeed Mohammed is a prophet like Moses, Isaiah or Jeremiah, he must know about the Spirit of God . Thus, they asked prophet Mohammad about a question he should know the answer as a prophet.
"What about the spirit?"

Enter the Islamic Confusion: What is a Spirit?
1. Mohammed doesn't know and Allah too seems not to know
Qur'an 17:85
They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been given but little.

The direct question of the Jews wasn't answered by Allah. Allah aka Mohammed does not know the answer to this simple question.


Ironically, Muslim scholars know the Holy Spirit: (the Question that Allah couldn't answer) he is Angel called by the name "Jibril"

This is truly an irony
Foreign AffairsRe: Putin Gifts Kim Jong-un A Russian Bullet Proof Limousine "Aurus Senat" (photos) by TenQ: 3:10pm On Jun 19, 2024
brainpulse:
Putin very good in chess and calculative game with the West. I just like his demeanor and composure, he remains always cool in the face of opposition's threats, tantrums and rantings.
No!
This is an act of desperation if you know Russia. Russia likes to be ALONE because they believe that they are Big and Strong.

Desperation is forcing them to seek alliance with China (their enemy) and remote dissidents like NK and Iran
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia, North Korea Sign Mutual Military Deal To Assist Each Other If Attacked by TenQ: 3:06pm On Jun 19, 2024
God1000:
Two old friends

The bromance and rapport between Putin and Kim is understandable, especially with the current geopolitical tension, any partnership to counter western influence is what they are after together with Xi jinping of china, according to report Russia has received more than 10,000 shipping containers the equivalent of 260,000 metric tons of munitions or munitions-related material from North Korea since September last year.


World war III will be US and NATO vs Russia, china, north Korea and Iran, the apocalypse
NATO will still win at the end even though after this US will begin to fade in power.
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 2:59pm On Jun 19, 2024
The question is still pending. I am not surprised that the adherents of the religion of lies cannot have any meaningful words to say as Allah asked them not to ask questions

Questions:
1. If Jibril is the Holy Spirit indeed, was he the one who gave life to Adam in Qur'an 32:9. Was Jibril the the thing Allah blew into Adam in Qur'an 15:29

2. What's meant by the term "spirit of Allah" and subsequently, what does it mean that Jesus is the Spirit from Allah?

3. Is the spirit of Allah an attribute of Allah? If the spirit is an attribute of Allah, how comes it is a personality like Allah?
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op):
AbuTwins:
I watched your doctored video and the original video below, even if Jesus could watch it he would have cursed you all for the deceit!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTpkV8SCQA&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nairaland.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTY0OTksMA&feature=emb_rel_end
Tell me,
Did Shabir Alli say what he said or the doctored version was that the WHOLE interview wasn't posted?

Did he say there are minor variations in the Qur'an or not (especially with the Sanaa manuscript)?


By the way, why are you dodging the questions I gave you. The Truth is never afraid of Questions you know!


Questions:
1. If Jibril is the Holy Spirit indeed, was he the one who gave life to Adam in Qur'an 32:9. Was Jibril the the thing Allah blew into Adam in Qur'an 15:29

2. What's meant by the term "spirit of Allah" and subsequently, what does it mean that Jesus is the Spirit from Allah?

3. Is the spirit of Allah an attribute of Allah? If the spirit is an attribute of Allah, how comes it is a personality like Allah?
Christianity EtcRe: Allah Says All Muslims Will Enter Hell First. See Proofs. by TenQ: 6:28am On Jun 19, 2024
honesttalk21:
You actually say


I asked you to show the exact sentence stating Muhammad pbuh is the one who placed or places a ladder and you are unable to show this Why?

Also where in the hadith you quote does he (Muhammad pbuh) burn into skeleton?
You are mixing things up.

1. Knowing what will be the fate of those in the fire what is the error in asking to be saved from the fate of falling into and being in the eternal fire?

2. Question 2 does not say all Muslims will be amongst the people of fire.

It is the height of irresponsibility to feel there's no punishment for all wrong doings. If this is the case then where is the perfect justice?

In Sahih Al-Bukhari (7439) and Muslim (183) it is narrated from Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) in a lengthy Hadith: “……Then the Sirat (bridge) will be laid across Hell.’ We said, "O Messenger of Allah! What is the Sirat?’ He said, ‘It is a slippery bridge on which there are clamps and (hooks-like) thorns which are wide at one side and narrow at the other and have bent ends.

Muslim added: Abu Sa`id (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “I heard that the Sirat is narrower than a hair and sharper than a sword.”

3. Shows how people are saved according to their deeds justly receiving the amount of retribution for wrong doing.
The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye, or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.


Keep following your fantasy that allows you go in and out of sinful immorality with the illusions that a wrongful belief about or in Jesus will save you and you will bear no repercussions.

Does your Bible tell you there are no repercussions for wrong doing?

How limited is your thinking that you feel the ladder will be material that will be burnt?

Yeshua pbuh is one of the greatest prophets of God and all Muslims believe in him but do not commit the error of equating him to the almighty God.

Did Jesus specifically say I am God?

Do you agree with 1 Corinthians 3:15? Can you explain it in detail as well as 1 Corinthians 3:13?
Quran 19:71-72 is very clear.

Why do you fool yourself with a fiction written 200 years after Mohammed about the bridge of Sirat?

You said:
The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye, or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.
1. Sirat bridge over Hell: But Quran 19:71 has not a single word about OVER
2. Verse 72 nails it for you: will the evildoers also be over the bridge of sirat?





Self deluded human beings who will take the words of their prophet over that of their supposed Allah.

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


I understand that the bridge is down and not up.

Quran 19:72 
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


Verse 71 says
1. ALL Muslims will enter Hell fire
2. It is a Fixed inescapable Decree of Allah
Verse 72 says
1. After an undetermined time, Allah will remove you Muslims and leave the bad people hobbling on their knees

Continue to cook up lies for yourself!
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 6:19am On Jun 19, 2024
FxMasterz:
We must pray for them bro. It more than then just reading. Their inner eyes must be opened.
True!

They are doing everything within their power legal and illegal to push the narrative that Islam is TRUE: unfortunately they are doing a bad job with it.

It is amazing how a religion can be based on lies upon lies, cascades of lies starting from Mohammed himself and propagated down the line. The only conclusion is that satan must be directly behind it.
Is satan not the father of lies?
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 11:31pm On Jun 18, 2024
Christianity EtcRe: Allah Says All Muslims Will Enter Hell First. See Proofs. by TenQ: 10:30pm On Jun 18, 2024
AntiChristian:
This has been debunked over ten years now!

Just one of the offshoots of Sam Shamoun's blunders about Islam.

https://www.nairaland.com/1509559/all-muslims-enter-hell

Christians love telling lies sha!
Mr AntiChristian,
Did you even read the rebuttal your referenced?

Refutation

The claimer does not understand the meaning of 19:71.

A- The words of 19:71 are as follows:

"Every single one of you must pass by it and see it; this is an irrevocable decision of your Lord."

This verse indeed confirms that all humans will pass by Hell and see it, yet we immediately note an important use of words between this verse and other verses that speak of the disbeliever's entry into Hell.

In 19:71 the Arabic word (Waredha) is used, which means (pass by and see). However, in the verses that speak about the disbelievers entry into Hell, we note the word (Dokhool) is used which means (entering), as opposed to passing by:
Mr Liar,
Would the evildoers in verse 72 also pass by hell fire?

Self deluded human beings who will take the words of their prophet over that of their supposed Allah.

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


I understand that the bridge is down and not up.

Quran 19:72 
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


Verse 71 says
1. ALL Muslims will enter Hell fire
2. It is a Fixed inescapable Decree of Allah
Verse 72 says
1. After an undetermined time, Allah will remove you Muslims and leave the bad people hobbling on their knees

Continue to cook up lies for yourself!
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 10:17pm On Jun 18, 2024
Antiislaam:
Bible says God is spirit, abeg shey allah is also spirit?
In the confusion of Muslims, they say
1. Allah is NOT a spirit (this is their biggest mistake)
2. However Allah has a spirit (who is either Jibril or his attribute)
3. Angel Jibril is Ruh Al-Qudus (the Holy Spirit) (another serious mistake)

There mixup is so great that simple questions about the SPIRIT, they are confused
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 10:13pm On Jun 18, 2024
FxMasterz:
It seems these your friends have run away.
They decided that the damage I am doing to Islam is too much thus they communicated themselves not to respond.

But at least, its either they are reading this or their consciences are pricking them.

I shall not be guilty of their blood!

Islam is so full of LIES, no wonder Allah aka Mohammed asks them not to ask questions!
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 8:04pm On Jun 18, 2024
Questions:
1. If Jibril is the Holy Spirit indeed, was he the one who gave life to Adam in Qur'an 32:9. Was Jibril the the thing Allah blew into Adam in Qur'an 15:29

2. What's meant by the term "spirit of Allah" and subsequently, what does it mean that Jesus is the Spirit from Allah?

3. Is the spirit of Allah an attribute of Allah? If the spirit is an attribute of Allah, how comes it is a personality like Allah?
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 4:21pm On Jun 18, 2024
Its of course no surprise that the Religion of lies cannot have an answer to simple questions as Allah forbids them from asking Questions that may lead them to question the personality of Allah, his Messenger and the message of deception which leads straight to hell
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Of 10 Questions Christians Won't Like To Answer - What's The Purpose Of Life? by TenQ: 4:16pm On Jun 18, 2024
RealTalkNoBull:
So this would apply to your Jesus whom you call your creator too?
No!
Christians dont have such bogus claims
The Earth is a place of SELECTION: God's purpose is achieved.
Some choose life
AND
others choose death

Which one have you chosen?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Was Sacrificed By Abraham Isaac Or Ishmael by TenQ: 11:45am On Jun 18, 2024
Princejydo:
For the Christian Isaac was sacrificed but for the Muslim Ishmael was sacrificed. Who is right
You think they will respond?

Even the Qur'an does not say the name of the boy for sacrifice is Ishmael
Christianity EtcRe: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op): 10:06am On Jun 18, 2024
What do we see in the Qur'an:
1. Rūh can take several forms as a person and thus (78:38) the Spirit can appear also appear in human form, such as in the case of the rūh that interacts with Mary (19:17).

2. The Quran even describes Jesus as rūh in one instance (4:171)

3.  Additionally, Rūh is referred to as Rūh al-Qudus (the Holy Spirit), al-Rūh al-Amin (the Trustworthy Spirit), or simply al-Rūh, and My/His (God's) Rūh.

4. The Spirit is the source of human life and the Breathe of Allah himself as stated in Qur'an 32:9

5. "My/His (God's) Spirit" in 15:29, 32:9 and 38:72 figuratively as God's power


Note:
Qur'an 15:29
When I form him perfect, and blow in him of My spirit, then you must fall down before him in prostration.”

Qur'an 32:9
Then He gave him a proportioned shape, and breathed into him of His spirit. And He granted you the (power of) hearing and the eyes and the hearts. Little you give thanks.

Qur'an 38:72
So, once I make him perfectly and breath My spirit into him, you must fall down in prostration before him.”
Christianity EtcThe Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ(op):
Islam is a compendium of contradictions and confusion. Most Muslims do not seem to be aware that their Religion is not according to either Allah or Mohammed but according to the consensus of their Scholars.

The Jews came to ask Mohammed a simple question about the Spirit (as every prophet of old relates with God as a Spirit). If indeed Mohammed is a prophet like Moses, Isaiah or Jeremiah, he must know about the Spirit of God . Thus, they asked prophet Mohammad about a question he should know the answer as a prophet.
"What about the spirit?"

Enter the Islamic Confusion: What is a Spirit?
1. Mohammed doesn't know and Allah too seems not to know
Qur'an 17:85
They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been given but little.


The direct question of the Jews wasn't answered by Allah.

2. However, Muslim scholars seem to know what the Spirit is:
They say that the spirit is an Angel called Jibril!

Except Muslims can prove that there are several kinds or types of Rūh, they have made Jibril (a creature) an attribute of Allah by which he creates life.
Muslims will claim in error that Jibril is the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately, there is not one verse of the Qur'an that states that Jibril is the Holy Spirit.
Instead, what we see is that Jibril is an Angel and thus cannot be a spirit.

Allah seals this madness of error with
Qur'an 78:38
On the Day when the Spirit and the angels stand in rows, they will not speak except for those to whom the Lord of Mercy gives permission, who will say only what is right.

Note:
The spirit is singular and if Jibril is an Angel, he CANNOT be a spirit.
Some Muslim scholars try to solve this problem by redefining the Rūh (Spirit) as Nafs (Soul) as if the words of Allah is not precise enough!

Questions:
1. If Jibril is the Holy Spirit indeed, was he the one who gave life to Adam in Qur'an 32:9. Was Jibril the the thing Allah blew into Adam in Qur'an 15:29
2. What's meant by the term "spirit of Allah" and subsequently, what does it mean that Jesus is the Spirit from Allah?
3. Is the spirit of Allah an attribute of Allah? If the spirit is an attribute of Allah, how comes it is a personality like Allah?



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Christianity EtcRe: Woman Narrates Death Experience, Says She Saw Jesus In Heaven by TenQ: 7:51pm On Jun 16, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Sigh! Heaven, Hell, and Jesus Christ have absolutely nothing to do with what the woman experienced. (Jesus Christ does not come in a package separate from that which is Heaven and Hell —the Kingdom of God.) I hope you receive clarity from this and move on!🤔
Have a nice day!
Christianity EtcRe: Woman Narrates Death Experience, Says She Saw Jesus In Heaven by TenQ: 6:29pm On Jun 16, 2024
Kobojunkie:
I see now that you just wish to argue with yourself in this too so I will leave you to it! 🤔
Here is the writeup, show me where she said that she went to heaven?

A woman whom we identified as Beverly Taylor Lowe Aradio, shared her death experience on a Facebook platform (Life After Death), and Facebook users on this platform were glad to read this intriguing story of life after death. I initially caught a glimpse of the woman’s death experience on my news feed and I thought it would be worthwhile to publish an article on the story here to boost our faith in the reality of life beyond the grave.

The woman started her narration by saying that the time came for her to be delivered of her baby and while she was put to bed, to be delivered of the baby through a natural birth seemed to be an arduous task for her body. She was then made to undergo labor.

Of course, that has never been the first time she would be delivered of a baby. She made it clear in her story that this one that seemed impossible to be delivered was her second time.

She said that in the course of her labor, she soon gave up the will to live (as they have lost her twice). She gave up the will to live as she got so worn out; she was already fed up and had no faith that she could continue in the labor anymore.

She noted that the medical personnel couldn’t do a C-section for her as a result of some complications which she could not ascertain (because she had forgotten them).

So, she told her husband that she was tired since her baby girl would not come out and in fact, was willing to go home. But her husband who did not know what his wife meant by “home” responded, urging her to have the baby and they would go home.

It was like a couple of seconds before she found herself in a tunnel. It was a very bright light. But the light did not hurt her eyes.

Describing the experience further, she said that it was like a tornado. As she walked through the horizontal tunnel, she could see her biological Dad from afar.

Furthermore, her biological dad, whom she saw far off was “like a blue hazy thing” that you would see in the movie Ghost. She corroborated that it was not psychology stuff because she had the experience some years before the movie Ghost was produced.

She said that as she tried to reach her Dad who died years back, she was prevented and blocked. How? A hand suddenly came out. How that hand looked, she can never tell but she noticed that it was very large and very strong. She, by default, knew that it was Jesus.

She said she told him that she wanted to go back to her Dad but this general-looking person affirmed “No!”, stating clearly that she had to go back because her time had not yet come and he had the assignment to give her.

The woman said that she pleaded to let her reach and remain with her Dad but he told her that he still had things for her here on earth. He then sent her back and she soon realized that she was back in her material body which was in the delivery room. That very time, all the pain and everything came back.
Just find me the word heaven or admit you are strawmanning!
Christianity EtcRe: Woman Narrates Death Experience, Says She Saw Jesus In Heaven by TenQ: 5:38pm On Jun 16, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Again, The woman either lied or her mind lied to her i.e. she hallucinated it all. No human being has ever been to Heaven let alone seen Jesus Christ in Heaven or Hell. undecided

Correctly process the implications of what is stated before responding abeg! undecided
You can't create a strawman only so that you'd be able to attack it as you wish!

Did she say she went to heaven?
Christianity EtcRe: Woman Narrates Death Experience, Says She Saw Jesus In Heaven by TenQ: 5:36pm On Jun 16, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Again, The woman either lied or her mind lied to her i.e. she hallucinated it all. No human being has ever been to Heaven let alone seen Jesus Christ in Heaven or Hell. undecided

Correctly process the implications of what is stated before responding abeg! undecided
She did not say she went to heaven!
Did you read what was written about her?

You can't create a strawman only so that you'd be able to attack it as you wish!

Did she say she went to heaven?
Christianity EtcRe: Woman Narrates Death Experience, Says She Saw Jesus In Heaven by TenQ: 4:57pm On Jun 16, 2024
Kobojunkie:
The woman either lied or her mind lied to her i.e. she hallucinated it all. No human being has ever been to Heaven let alone seen Jesus Christ in Heaven or Hell. undecided
She didn't claim that she entered heaven
She didn't claim to See Jesus

What she said was that a HAND she perceived to be that of Jesus prevented her from joining her farther because it wasn't yet her time.

I know you believe that you cease to exist when you die: but no: we don't cease to exist. We only change form into our spirit form.

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