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Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 10:46pm On Sep 23, 2023
correctguy101:
Ah ..

These people sef....undecided
When Muslim say that Allah is
"Al-Makir" = The Deceiver
and Allah is
"Al-Mutakabbir" = The Arrogant

What else do you expect?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 10:38pm On Sep 23, 2023
Explore2xmore:
46:10 Ask ˹them, O Prophet˺, “Consider if this ˹Quran˺ is ˹truly˺ from Allah and you deny it, and a witness from the Children of Israel attests to it and then believes, whereas you act arrogantly. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.”

46:11 The disbelievers say of the believers, Had it been ˹something˺ good, they would not have beaten us to it.Now since they reject its guidance, they will say, This is˺ an ancient fabrication.

46:12 And before this Quran the Book of Moses was revealed as a guide and mercy. And this Book is a confirmation, in the Arabic tongue, to warn those who do wrong, and as good news to those who do good.

46:13 Surely those who say, Our Lord is Allah, and then remain steadfast—there will be no fear for them, nor will they grieve

46:14 It is they who will be the residents of Paradise, staying there forever, as a reward for what they used to do.
Unfortunately,
All these is meaningless because it gives you no guarantee of paradise.

According to your religion, so your all Babies are born as Muslims before their parent mislead them away from Islam.


Sahih Muslim (6435 )
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, reported that a child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?


1. Is this hadith untrue?
2. If Muslim babies may go to hell, can you justify why you shouldn't be among the inmate of hell?

Qur'an 46:9
Say: I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner.



Mr Explore2xmore,
You are gambling with your eternity sir. Pause to think and ask questions!
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 10:26pm On Sep 23, 2023
Ibrahimlagosian:
What problem do you have with me that you feel pressurized to impose your belief on me.لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
"To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."Quran 106:6
No one is imposing anything on you.

What you are seeing here is a prompt for you to pause and ask yourself the most important questions.

Why was the Messiah sent?
Why is He still coming back again?
Why doesn't he come through normal conception process?
Why can he create a living bird?

What is so special with the Messiah?

John 14:6:
"Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me."


Is this scripture true?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 10:17pm On Sep 23, 2023
Ibrahimlagosian:
Thanks bro,i love your willingness to respond and your effort to give the appropriate answers to these non muslims trying to make path of The Truth seem crooked always.I have a good foundational knowledge on abrahamic religion comparison but i don't really think i have the effort to type my fingers sore trying to prove the Truth because,as Allah said in the Quran;Wether you try to preach guidance or not to them(disbelievers),they will not believe.So basically,i just read and ignore the message.Thumbs up for you bro.Jazakallahu Khairan.May Allah protect us from the misguidance of the misguiders and all form of disbelief.Amin
I care about you because many are sincerely mislead thinking they are following the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They wouldn't know until death when they discover that they've held a fake document all their lives.

Sahih Muslim (6436)

'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins



If a baby (according to Islam Born as a Muslim) cannot guarantee a place in Paradise of Allah, the how much more you sir (a full blown adult who has committed many sin in his life time).

This is why I invite you to the Messiah for the sake of your salvation!
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 9:29pm On Sep 23, 2023
Ibrahimlagosian:
Guy,can you do me a favour and stop qouting me?,cos you can't lead astray whom Allah guided already.Thanks
Can one lead aright the one Allah has led astray!?
No!
That is why I pray that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will set you free from your deception
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 9:27pm On Sep 23, 2023
Rev 20:15:
"And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Do not be Decieved!
Don't waste your Life!
Ask, Seek and Knock for your salvation and you will be saved

Luk 11:9-10:
"And I say to you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you. For every one that asks receives; and he that seeks finds; and to him that knocks it shall be opened."


Questions:
1. Why do you reject the Messiah's offer for your salvation?
2. Do you think it is possible for any human being to earn his salvation with good deeds?
3. You are free to ask me any Questions

From the Bottom of my Heart, I invite you to Know and Trust the Messiah for your salvation.


Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 7:14pm On Sep 23, 2023
FxMasterz:
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2;8-9

"For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men," Titus 2'11

"For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." John 1:17

"Then, if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God had raised him from the dead, you shall be saved." Romans 10:9
Thank you my brother.

Unfortunately, the humans have perfected the art of choosing a Robber over the Messiah!

Mat 27:21-22:
"The governor answered and said to them, Whether of the two will you that I release to you? They said, Barabbas. Pilate said to them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say to him, Let him be crucified."

John 3:19:
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 7:06pm On Sep 23, 2023
AntiChristian:
He doesn't enter his creation as there's nothing like unto Him.
Really!?.

So your initial response was Taqqiya?

In the context of the question can God enter His creation, you said!

AntiChristian:
There is nothing the Almighty can not do! Allah says He's able to do all things!

However, mixing in with His creation is against His majestic loftiness! God is omniscient and as such His knowledge encompasses all things. He needs not become human to do anything as regards them!
Then you said :
AntiChristian:
Yes God can do all things but He won't do many things like drinking pastor Adeboye's tea!
And then:

You turn round to say:

"He doesn't enter his creation as there's nothing like unto Him."

Knowing how you Muslims behave, you can see why it looks like I want to get a concrete answer from you.



Again :
Can the Almighty God who created everything enter into His creation?

If it is a YES, give me an example from Islam

If it is a NO! Is God not Almighty again?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 6:19pm On Sep 23, 2023
AntiChristian:
Yes God can do all things but He won't do many things like drinking pastor Adeboye's tea!
Do you have any example in the Religion of Islam where Allah is shown to enter into his Creation?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 6:05pm On Sep 23, 2023
AntiChristian:
There is nothing the Almighty can not do! Allah says He's able to do all things!

However, mixing in with His creation is against His majestic loftiness! God is omniscient and as such His knowledge encompasses all things. He needs not become human to do anything as regards them!
Are you saying emphatically that God can enter into His own creation?

I just want to be sure!

Can God enter into His own creation?
Emphatic Yes!
or
Emphatic No!
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 5:46pm On Sep 23, 2023
AntiChristian:
What do you mean by entering His creation?
Is it an impossibility that the Almighty God enter into His creation?


eg. Like we Christians see God in a human body called Jesus? (a Human being is a creation of God)
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 5:36pm On Sep 23, 2023
AntiChristian:
We don't believe in your version of Jesus who is same as the father and son despite being different in many places in the Bible!

Why not quote same John verse where Jesus said his father is greater than himself?

Why not quote where Jesus said he doesn't know the hour hence not omniscient?

Why not quote where Jesus said he can of himself do nothing which means he receives instructions from a superior God?

Why not quote where Jesus was worshipping God putting his head to the ground?

Why not quote where baby Jesus was being protected by his parents when they fled from the evil king?

Every prophet were sent to specific people, race or nation! And they were the way, the truth and life for them. Everyone gets to God and salvation through them. That's why all prophets are regarded as Muslims in Islam.

The central message is the same! Obey Allah and the messenger He sent!

Christians will be preaching to others to give their life to christ after Christ gave his life for their ransom!

Na give and take right? Lol.

Vicarious atonement i.e. the believe someone can shed blood for you is disbelief in Islam!

Everyone carries his or her own burden!

Even the Messiah can't save himself! He said by his ownself he can do nothing!

And righteousness, faith and belief is the recipe for salvation!

When Jesus replied the rich man he said obey the commandment! And lastly he emphasized followership! All those who followed Jesus during his time and died in that faith are regarded as Muslims!

Same with Moses, Solomon, David, Noah, Jonah, Joseph, Isaac, Jacob, Ishmael, Enoch, John the Baptist, Elisha, Elijah, etc.
Let me ask you just one single question to respond to you.

Can God enter His creation?
Yes or No!
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 5:33pm On Sep 23, 2023
correctguy101:
Oh...

You're comparing scriptures now?

There are too many scriptures with too many claims.

Your Holy book is not any different abeg..

What do I know about all this wahala sef?

Our resident evangelist, please don't mind me, fire down in the spirit... grin
I would love if you can give me better Qur'an verse than the one I've used that show how to enter Paradise. You know that as a Christian, I I could be biased.

Although, I my objective is that you answer my questions. I believe today's post is not discrediting Islam in any way.

Thanks
Christianity EtcJesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op):
The Cost Price for Your Salvation has been Paid in Full

One of the most profound statements made by any one on this earth is the claim
John 14:6:
"Jesus said to him, I am the way , the truth , and the life : no man comes to the Father, but by me."


Compare with
Qur'an 46:9
Say: I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner.


Note that Jesus did not say:
I know the Way!
or
I will show you the Truth!
or
I will guide you to have Life!


There exist not one single prophet of God who spoke with audacity the claim of Jesus.
Jesus said :
John 3:36:
"He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God stays on him."


John 3:16-17:
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."


What does it mean to believe in the Son?
It simply means to Trust Him (Jesus the Messiah) for your Salvation as it is impossible for anyone to earn his salvation by his deeds alone. Those who Trust Him Obey His commandments because He is their Lord.

John 3:5-6:
"Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."


Rev 20:15:
"And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Do not be Decieved!
Don't waste your Life!
Ask, Seek and Knock for your salvation and you will be saved

Luk 11:9-10:
"And I say to you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you. For every one that asks receives; and he that seeks finds; and to him that knocks it shall be opened."


Questions:
1. Why do you reject the Messiah's offer for your salvation?
2. Do you think it is possible for any human being to earn his salvation with good deeds?
3. You are free to ask me any Questions

From the Bottom of my Heart, I invite you to Know and Trust the Messiah for your salvation.


Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Christianity EtcRe: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:41pm On Sep 22, 2023
RelevantSolutio:
Hey; Read This Clearly!


There was a time in life when The early Christians were persecuting and killing scientists as they labelled them to be devilish.

You know what they called it ?


"Holy Crusade".




And This Horrific Holy Crusade happened for Over 100 Years.


Christians were killing scientists and putting them into boiling water to be boiled alive!

And You Know What ?

They were very happy about it.

They also claimed that Their Holy Crusade was All Done in The Name of Jesus Christ.




I'm surprised you don't know all of these history about Your Christianity.



However; Over The Years - These Blood Shedding Crusades have been transformed to "Open Ground Praises, Worship and Avenues For FAKE MIRACLES".




You See; The Blood Shedding Crusades of Christians Have passed because CIVILITY is improving with Christians.


It is Unfortunate that The Muslims are still passing through their own stage of Blood Shedding Crusades because Some of them are failing to accept CIVILITY.








I Hope This helps Enlighten You More About REAL LIFE HISTORY.



Welcome To The World of Religious Confusions, HATRED And INTOLERANCE of One Another.
I have responded to this post of yours, so I wouldn't duplicate my post.

However,
You sound like a person who had been defrauded by fake men of God in the name of Christ. Is this true?

Do you know the Christ Jesus on a personal level or you only know the Jesus promoted by the daddy GOs?

Why?
If you know Jesus, then you wouldn't be surprised that the Wheat and Tares must grow together.

Mat 13:30:
"Leave both to grow together until the harvest; and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, „First gather together the tares, and bind them into bundles to burn them, but gather together the wheat into my barn.”'”"


It wouldn't surprise you that not all who call Jesus Lord are His

Mat 7:21-23:
"„Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name we cast out demons, and in Your name we did many mighty works?’ „And then I will confess to them, 'I never knew you! Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity!'"


Christianity is a personal race, run yours to win the race.

2Tim 2:19:
"Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are his. And, Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity."
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by TenQ: 7:28pm On Sep 22, 2023
RelevantSolutio:
Hey; Read This Clearly!


There was a time in life when The early Christians were persecuting and killing scientists as they labelled them to be devilish.

You know what they called it ?


"Holy Crusade".




And This Horrific Holy Crusade happened for Over 100 Years.


Christians were killing scientists and putting them into boiling water to be boiled alive!

And You Know What ?

They were very happy about it.

They also claimed that Their Holy Crusade was All Done in The Name of Jesus Christ.




I'm surprised you don't know all of these history about Your Christianity.



However; Over The Years - These Blood Shedding Crusades have been transformed to "Open Ground Praises, Worship and Avenues For FAKE MIRACLES".




You See; The Blood Shedding Crusades of Christians Have passed because CIVILITY is improving with Christians.


It is Unfortunate that The Muslims are still passing through their own stage of Blood Shedding Crusades because Some of them are failing to accept CIVILITY.








I Hope This helps Enlighten You More About REAL LIFE HISTORY.



Welcome To The World of Religious Confusions, HATRED And INTOLERANCE of One Another.
"Christians" have done evil in the name of God BUT they have no justification or backing to do such. Meaning that their actions of Crusades were wrong and evil and did not represent the teachings of Christ.

Meaning that: Christians should admit their error and repent from these works of unrighteousness!


Islam on the other hand are directly Commanded.

Qur'an 2:216
"Fighting is prescribed for you and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth and ye know not."

Qur'an 2:224
"Then fight in the cause of God and know that God heareth and knoweth all things."

Qur'an 3:157-158
"And if ye are slain or die in the way of God, forgiveness and mercy from God are far better than all they could amass. And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! It is unto God that ye are brought together."

Qur'an 3:169
"Think not of those who are slain in God's way as dead. Nay, they live finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord."


The command of Jesus is clear
Mar 6:11:
"And whoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when you depart there, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Truly I say to you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."

Mat 5:39:
"But I say to you, That you resist not evil: but whoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Mat 11:29:
"Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls."


Should Muslims obey or disobey Allah and Mohammed his Apostle with respect to Jihad?

Should Christians obey or disobey Jesus the Son of God with respect to Crusades?
Christianity EtcRe: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 6:40pm On Sep 22, 2023
RelevantSolutio:
Same Hypnotism and Hypocrisy when Christians tell you to eat and drink the flesh and blood of Jesus represented by bread and wine.



Two Mentally Derailed Sets of Religious Clowns.


No wonder Nigeria is in Jeopardy.
I can see that you are ignorant of the sacrament of the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ.

Mat 26:26:
"And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body."


Read this for comprehension to know that this was not a case of cannibalism. The disciples were eating normal food.


The Muslims you defend here is shown to refer to the real Urine of their prophet.


The topic BENEFITS OF DRINKING THE URINE OF PROPHET Mohammed is found in the islamic website Posted by IslamicVirtues in Islamic Medicine

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/02/benefits-of-drinking-the-blessed-urine-of-our-holy-prophet-s/
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by TenQ: 6:31pm On Sep 22, 2023
RelevantSolutio:
I'm a Christian actually.

I Fellowship at WINNERS CHAPEL.
It means that your post was thoroughly confusing!

You said:
Islam Encompasses More People Who Are Genuine To Themselves, Because Islam doesn't Tolerate Evil Offenders.

However, Many Christians will continue With Their Evil Acts And They Stay Hypocritically About it Under The Umbrella That They Are Covered By GRACE.
Which is mostly extremely biased.
1. Muslims are more genuine to themselves!?
2. Islam does not tolerate evil doers?
3. Christians continue in their evil acts
4. Christians are hypocrites hiding under grace!

Evil is found everywhere AND the grass always look greener outside!
If you became a Muslim today, do you think you will be afraid that some Christians will decide to kill you?

If you know just a little of the true Islam, can you will realize that, Islam is a religious cult where Mohammed and Allah are synonymous (even though they reject this notion). Islam's main objective is to replace the Messiah with a Criminal like Barabas. This is the Spirit of the Antichrist.

Islam accepts everything in Christianity that has nothing to do with salvation. Everything required for salvation they reject and replace with the doctrine of Mohammed.

Check my older posts to learn more about these people you think are zealous for God.

https://www.nairaland.com/tenq


I pray for them and show them the Messiah as best as I can. Every Christian should learn about Islam so that they can effectively preach christ to them
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ:
Blue86:
Lying is allowed in their faith.
That tells us all we need to know about them.
Muslims generally have a mantra like this

"Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind "

Till the very end when they enter hell fire, this is what the prince of this world has sealed their hearts and mind to be.

We shall do our best to lead them to the Messiah!
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 4:04pm On Sep 21, 2023
Blue86:
And to say such a one is the promised Holy Spirit to teach people all things.
What is he going to teach us :his dirty lifestyle?

And if he was the Holy Spirit to teach all things, then the disciples - Apostles amd the 120 and the 500, and Agabus and Philip would have waited 300 years plus for the supposed Holy Spirit to be born to teach them all things.

And to teach what?
That drinking his pee is holy and would guarantee heaven.
To teach to suck a boys penis is good.
To teach that marrying an aged woman and a minor is cool.
He was even confused who was speaking to Him.
Unfortunately, the objective of Muslims is to tell lies upon lies to make Islam look beautiful and acceptable to people.

How can God be defended with lies?
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 11:21am On Sep 21, 2023
FxMasterz:
Lol.
He says Qur'an 4:24 is not about Temporary marriage contrary to the statements in black and white narrative from two hadiths by Muslim 1404a and Bukhari 5075
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ:
FxMasterz:
Their conscience is seared with hot iron. Their ultimate goal is to make allah and Mohammed look good. The fate of their own souls do not matter to them.
He refused to answer my questions.

He has denied his hadiths now and want to turn himself into Qur'an only Muslim!
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ:
Explore2xmore:
No temporary marriage in Islam. All you have of it is from the Jahiliyah period and maybe early Islam.
I am not very clear on reports that some people try to validate this claim and we know there are such contractual marriages in society. Do such contract societal marriage carry the name Mutah?

What break dance? I have further educated you about the non reliability of hadith even the ones with the classification of authentic or Sahih. These often rely on the chain of narration and don't bother as much with the content of the hadith.

You that asked the question in arabic should answer. I will love to show you something and probably learn from you.

It is against my belief to explain Quran based on hadith. There will be numerous hadith which are more of people's opinions on the Quran. Sahih, Hassan, Daif or Maudu are irrelevant as these are opinions and you have seen these collections having contrary hadith so tell me what then is the use?
It is impossible for you to speak the truth with respect to your religion.


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


This also found in

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

You are not a Qur'an only Muslim yet you don't explain the Qur'an with the hadith. I So, non of why reference the hadiths in the first place?

Did you see ANYTHING like Contract of Temporary Marriage in the two Sahih Hadiths?
This Mutah was Authorised By Allah and his prophet! Your prophet banned it then allowed it then banned it then allowed it And till he died, Mutah was still in practice till the second Khalif finally banned it.



All you have shown me is the unreliability of your hadiths narrated by Muslims, guess what compiled by Muslims and used by Muslims. How then can we trust anything from the mouth of Muslims.

You don't even trust yourselves to speak the truth! SMH!


FINALLY
On the title of your Original Post:

KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith -
1. This is completely untrue. Is it possible to follow a person you don't even know?
2. I did not know ANYTHING about Kab al-Ahbar till you opened this your thread
3. You could not even show that any significant number of Hadiths relative to your available hadiths are by Kab al-Ahbar
4. Kab al-Ahbar was a Jew who converted to Islam and DIED as a Muslim




Please let's call it a day!
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 9:02am On Sep 21, 2023
Explore2xmore:
I put the question back to the questuoner when he asked about مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مَهَرَ to answer describing it's relevance to the discussion.

You later striked this through without answering or saying why only saying corrected. I didn't mark what wasn't being examined and you replaced with أُجُورَهُنَّ.

Do feel free to tell or explain. Appreciate.
There are four questions I posted : are you saying that the perfect answer for a question is to ask the questioner the same questions?

My Basis
1. Question 1
The Qur'an 4:24 used the word أُجُورَهُنَّ rather than مهر.
So, I asked you the question:
What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?


2. The Qur'an 4:24 used the word مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ
So, I asked the question
What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

The other two questions are straight forward
3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu ?
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 8:22am On Sep 21, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Your reliance on hadith before reading the Quran has only made you misunderstand the Quran.

Quran 4, An-Nisaa, The women adequately talks about marriage and does not refer to Mutah.

Foremost in verse 3: And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

Then verse 4 says give women their dowries graciously. But if they willingly forego some of it, then consume it with enjoyment and pleasure.

It now follows with further guidance as to who and how you should marry.

22. Do not marry women whom your fathers married, except what is already past. That is improper, indecent, and a bad custom.

23. Forbidden for you are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship—born of wives you have gone into—but if you have not gone into them (essentially the marriage is not consumated), there is no blame on you. And the wives of your genetic sons, and marrying two sisters simultaneously. Except what is past. God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

24. And all married women, except those you rightfully possess. This is God’s decree, binding upon you. Permitted for you are those that lie outside these limits, provided you seek them in legal marriage, with gifts from your property, seeking wedlock, not prostitution. If you wish to enjoy them (important), then give them their dowry—a legal obligation. You commit no error by agreeing to any change to the dowry. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.

25. If any of you lack the means to marry free believing women, he may marry one of the believing maids under your control. God is well aware of your faith. You are from one another. Marry them with the permission of their guardians, and give them their recompense fairly—to be protected—neither committing adultery, nor taking secret lovers. When they are married, if they commit adultery, their punishment shall be half that of free women. That is for those among you who fear falling into decadence. But to practice self-restraint is better for you. God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.

26. God intends to make things clear to you, and to guide you in the ways of those before you, and to redeem you. God is Most Knowing, Most Wise.

So you see it doesn't talk of Mutah.

The Quran itself says one should not insist on believing in a ready-made proposition or accepting a popular hypothesis, without deep observation and reasoning, as this is misguiding (2:170, 5:104, 10:100-101, 31:21, 33:67, 37:69-71)

It also harshly criticizes the inertia of a vegetative existence that lacks critical thinking and cognition (7:179, 8:22, 10:100-101, 11:24)

As well as describes unquestioning minds as polluted (10:100); describing unreasoning folks as subhumans (7:179, 8:22, 25:44).

Once you can critically and sincerely study the Quran you will see that Allah never prescribed Mutah. Sadly commentators have mislead many to wrong understanding that Quran prescribes temporary marriage.

It is indisputable that temporary marriages was part of the Arabian culture in the time of ignorance and quite a number tried to find ways to hold on to their previous ways. Indeed sincerity , steadfastness and strength in faith isn't automatic. Therein is the real jihad of every believer. You should know too that Israelites married from the female captives of war and were most certain to kill their husbands and males.
Is marrying with a temporary contract not a kind of Islamic Marriage?
Is this not what is called Mutah?

If you had answered my questions, you would not be doing break-dance about the thread.


Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 7:57am On Sep 21, 2023
Blue86:
How people just love to defend a pedophile,fetish, confused, died of poison, married a way older woman, is just amazingly mouth gaping.

Blindness is real.
Don't mind them.
They would rather follow a 419 than the Messiah!
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 7:55am On Sep 21, 2023
Mallam Explore2xmore,
Why haven't you answered my questions?


Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 7:53am On Sep 21, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Wrong basis for comparison. How did Allah create animals and other living things compared to how he created man?

He is the One Who has made perfectly everything He has created: He began the creation of human beings with clay, And made his progeny from a quintessence of the nature of a fluid despised: But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit…”
Q32:7-9

All other creatures were created in a different manner and he did not breath into them to give them life.

And Allah has created from water every living creature. Some of them crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs, and some walk on four. Allah creates whatever He wills. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything.
Q24:45

The nature and position of mankind in his creation is far different from other creatures. Allah created mankind and jinn to worship him

I have not created the jinns and men but to worship Me.Q51:56

So you see however highly placed Jesus pbuh is he created neither man nor jinn.
1. There is no verse that says explicitly that Allah did not breathe into the animals as animals were collectively grouped without any specifics
2. Man is the highest of God's creation and Allah specifically said he breathe into Adam after moulding him with mud or clay.
3. Jesus did exactly what Allah did
a. He moulded with clay
b. He breathe into the clay
c. The clay came to life and animals.

Are you aware that the challenge of Allah was about something as small as a fly and not Man nor Jinn?
Quran 22:73
"O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): verily! Those on whom you call besides Allah cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatched away a thing from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought."


Are you saying Allah is wrong and you are correct on this?


1. Do you agree that Jesus is at least a co-creator with Allah?
2. Do you know any other human with this ability to create life?


probably the descendants of the bird created by Jesus is still alive right now.
LOL!


I doesn't dawn on you that Jesus did
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 6:53am On Sep 21, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Now you did not appropriately tag the hadith in your original post. And you still mistag here. Why?


Narrated Salama:
`Ali happened to stay behind the Prophet and (did not join him) during the battle of Khaibar for he was having eye trouble. Then he said, "How could I remain behind Allah's Messenger ?" So `Ali set out following the Prophet, When it was the eve of the day in the morning of which Allah helped (the Muslims) to conquer it, Allah's Messenger said, "I will give the flag (to a man), or tomorrow a man whom Allah and His Apostle love will take the flag," or said, "A man who loves Allah and His Apostle; and Allah will grant victory under his leadership." Suddenly came `Ali whom we did not expect. The people said, "This is `Ali." Allah's Messenger gave him the flag and Allah granted victory under his leadership.
Bukhari 62 Hadith 52




Narrated `Ali:
I said to Ibn `Abbas, "During the battle of Khaibar the Prophet forbade (Nikah) Al-Mut'a and the eating of donkey's meat."
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 52

Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah and Salama bin Al-Akwa`:

While we were in an army, Allah's Messenger came to us and said, "You have been allowed to do the Mut'a (marriage), so do it."
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 54

Do the immediate two hadith above this writing not contradict each other?

Then:
Salama bin Al-Akwa` said:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)'s said, "If a man and a woman agree (to marry temporarily), their marriage should last for three nights, and if they like to continue, they can do so; and if they want to separate, they can do so." I do not know whether that was only for us or for all the people in general. Abu `Abdullah (Al-Bukhari) said: `Ali made it clear that the Prophet said, "The Mut'a marriage has been cancelled (made unlawful).
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 55

Why do you insist on describing Islam with literature that obviously contradict each other.


I don't have the time to show you all the hadith that forbid this mutah you refer to but will paste a link for you to see.

https://sunnah.com/search?q=temporary+marriage

You will read hadith from Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, Abi Dawud, Bulugh etc. forbidding Mutah

Why do you now cross out the arabic words? I simply asked you to explain them and their relevance. Does the crossing mean a withdrawal of the question?
My error please for the incorrect citation on Bukhari. Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 52

Error regretted!
The correct citation is below


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


This also found in

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

My argument is not whether Mutual was cancelled or not. Of course it was cancelled BUT not by Allah in the Qur'an.

Your Claim 1:
Explore2xmore:
Confirm or deny if Sahih Bukhari 2155 says:
....Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah’s Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah’s Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable.”.....

Do you not try to place an importance on hadith when neither Allah nor Muhammad pbuh placed any importance on them?
My response,
1. The command to do Mutah was given by Allah in Quran 4:24
2. The command for Mutah was never abrogated by Allah in the Quran.
3. Mohammed later abrogated Allah's command for Mutah
4. The report of Mohammed abrogating the command of Allah on Mutah can only be found in the Hadith.

Conclusion :
Why do you hold on to Hadiths over the command of Allah in the Qur'an

2. I showed you from your hadiths that Qur'an 4:24 is about Temporary Marriage (Mutah).
a. Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
b. Sahih Muslim 1404a

3. If you doubt, I give me a single verse where Mutah was abrogated in the Qur'an.
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52 is Also repeated in Hadith by Muslim with respect to Qur'an 5:87

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”




Explore2xmore:
Can you also quote this your Bukhari hadith in full as I am finding hadith of this specification with different content?
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13
=Sahih al-Bukhari 5075




What is chastity?

Qur'an 5:87
"O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors."


The background and context for this verse
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"



Chastity is following the rules of Allah for Mutah.
The rules of Allah
Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.


According to Allah, it is a transgression and it is unlawful to RAPE or DEFRAUD an unmarried woman to have sex with her AND A married woman is lawful to Muslims only if she's a prisoner of war

These are the good things Allah has made lawful to you

What is the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر?

corrected!

Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?


2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ:
Explore2xmore:
As you insist on using hadith to derive the meaning of Quran verses can you help choose which is to be taken:
Ibn Kathir reports:
`Ali bin Abi Talhah said that Ibn `Abbas said, “This Ayah ﴿5:87﴾ was revealed about some of the Companions of the Prophet who said, `We should cut off our male organs, abandon the desires of this life and travel in the land, just as the Ruhban (monks) do.’ When the Prophet heard of this statement, he summoned them and asked them if they made this statement and they answered `Yes.’ The Prophet said:
I fast and break my fast, pray and sleep, and marry women. Whoever follows my Sunnah is of me, and whoever abandons my Sunnah is not of me. Ibn Abi Hatim also collected this Hadith. Ibn Marduwyah recorded that Al-`Awfi said that Ibn `Abbas narrated a similar Hadith. It is recorded in the Two Sahihs that `A'ishah said that some of the Companions asked the wives of the Prophet about the acts of worship that he performed in private. One of them said, "I will not eat meat,'' another said, "I will not marry women,'' while the third said, "I will not sleep on the bed.'' When the Prophet heard this statement, he said,What is the matter with some people who said such and such I fast and break the fast, sleep and wake to stand to pray, eat meat, and marry women. He who is not pleased with my Sunnah is not of me.Allah's statement and transgress not means, do not exaggerate and make it hard for yourselves by prohibiting the permissible things Do not transgress the limits by excessively indulging in the permissible matters; only use of it what satisfies your need; and do not fall into extravagance

Al- Maududi says:
This verse embodies two directives. The first is that man should not attribute to himself the authority to proclaim things either lawful or unlawful according to his own wishes. Only that which God has held to be lawful is lawful, and only that which God has declared unlawful is unlawful. If men were to declare certain things either lawful or unlawful on their own authority, they would not be following the law of God but their own laws. The second directive is that they should not adopt the course of world-renunciation and abstention from worldly pleasures as the Christian monks, Hindu mendicants, Buddhist bhikshus and illuminist mystics did. Religious-minded and virtuous people have always tended to consider their physical and carnal desires an impediment to spiritual growth. They have considered suffering, deprivation from worldly pleasures and abstention from the means of worldly sustenance to be acts of goodness and indispensable for achieving proximity to God. Even some of the Companions leaned in this direction. The Prophet (peace be on him) once came to know that some Companions had resolved that they would fast without interruption, that instead of spending the night on their beds they would remain awake praying, that they would consume neither meat nor fat, and would have no (sexual) relations with women. The Prophet (peace be on him) addressed the people on this subject and said: ‘I have not been commanded to do so. Even your own self has rights against you. So, fast on certain days and refrain from fasting on others. Stay awake praying at night and also sleep. Look at me; 1 sleep as well as stay awake (praying); sometimes I fast and sometimes I don’t. I consume meat as well as fat. Whosoever dislikes my way does not belong to me.’ He then added: ‘What has happened to people that they have prohibited for themselves women, good food, perfumes, sleep and the pleasures of the world, whereas I have not taught you to become monks and priests. In my religion there is neither abstention from women nor from meat, neither seclusion nor withdrawal.

For the purposes of self-control my religion has fasting. As for monasticism, all its benefits can be derived from jihad (struggle in the way of God). Serve God and associate none with Him. Perform Hajj and ‘Umrah, establish Prayers, dispense Zakah and observe the fasts of Ramadan. Those who were destroyed before you were destroyed because they were severe with themselves, and when they became severe with themselves God became severe with them as well.

You can see Ibn Kathir and Maududi are more encompassing in discussing this verse.

Do tell me the difference between مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر as well as it's relevance to this discussion.
Maybe you tell me which to use here


Tafsir Qur'an 4:24 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War, after ascertaining that they are not pregnant, by waiting for the lapse of one period of menstruation. (It is a decree of Allah for you) that which I have mentioned to you is unlawful in Allah's Book. (Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned) as unlawful, (so that ye seek them) marry (with your wealth) up to four wives; it is also said that this means: so that you buy with your wealth captives; and it is also said that this means: so that you should seek with your money marrying women for an agreed period of time (zawaj al-mut'ah) but the lawfulness of this practice was later abrogated, (in honest wedlock) He says: be with them as legitimate husbands, (not debauchery) not indulging in adultery without having a proper marriage. (And those of whom) after marriage (ye seek content) from whom you derive benefit, (give unto them their portions) give to them their full dowry (as a duty) as an obligation upon you from Allah to give the dowry in full. (And there is no sin for you) there is no harm for you (in what ye do by mutual agreement) in increasing or decreasing the amount of the dowry by mutual agreement (after the duty hath been done) after the first obligation to which you have aspired. (Lo! Allah is ever Knower) in relation to making lawful to you marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, (Wise) in later making this practice unlawful; it is also said that this means: Allah is ever Knower of your compulsion for marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, Wise in making such marriage unlawful.



Did you brother to read Ibn Kathir before posting it? It agrees perfectly with my position and it further explains it's abrogation. SMH


Tafsir Qur'an 4:24 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
Forbidding Women Already Married, Except for Female Slaves
Allah said, (Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.) The Ayah means, you are prohibited from marrying women who are already married, (except those whom your right hands possess) except those whom you acquire through war, for you are allowed such women after making sure they are not pregnant. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah was revealed, (Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women.'' This is the wording collected by At-Tirmidhi An-Nasa'i, Ibn Jarir and Muslim in his Sahih. Allah's statement,
(Thus has Allah ordained for you) means, this prohibition was ordained for you by Allah. Therefore, adhere to Allah's Book, do not transgress His set limits, and adhere to His legislation and decrees.
The Permission to Marry All Other Women
Allah said,
(All others are lawful) meaning, you are allowed to marry women other than the prohibited types mentioned here, as `Ata' and others have stated. Allah's statement,
(provided you seek them (with a dowry) from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication,) meaning, you are allowed to use your money to marry up to four wives and for (the purchase of) as many female slaves as you like, all through legal means,
((desiring) chastity, not fornication.) Allah's statement,

(So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due,) means, to enjoy them sexually, surrender to them their rightful dowry as compensation. In other Ayat, Allah said,
(And how could you take it (back) while you have gone in unto each other),
(And give to the women (whom you marry) their dowry with a good heart), and,
(And it is not lawful for you (men) to take back (from your wives) any of what (dowry) you gave them)

Prohibiting the Mut`ah of Marriage
Mujahid stated that,
(So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due,) was revealed about the Mut`ah marriage. A Mut`ah marriage is a marriage that ends upon a predeterminied date. In the Two Sahihs, it is recorded that the Leader of the Faithful `Ali bin Abi Talib said, "The Messenger of Allah prohibited Mut`ah marriage and eating the meat of domesticated donkeys on the day of Khaybar (battle).'' In addition, in his Sahih, Muslim recorded that Ar-Rabi` bin Sabrah bin Ma`bad Al-Juhani said that his father said that he accompanied the Messenger of Allah during the conquest of Makkah, and that the Prophet said,
(O people! I allowed you the Mut`ah marriage with women before. Now, Allah has prohibited it until the Day of Resurrection. Therefore, anyone who has any women in Mut`ah, let him let them go, and do not take anything from what you have given them.) Allah's statement,
(but if you agree mutually (to give more) after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you.) is similar to His other statement,
(And give to the women their dowry with a good heart). The meaning of these Ayat is: If you have stipulated a dowry for her, and she later forfeits it, either totally or partially, then this bears no harm on you or her in this case. Ibn Jarir said, "Al-Hadrami said that some men would designate a certain dowry, but then fall into financial difficulties. Therefore, Allah said that there is no harm on you, O people, concerning your mutual agreement after the requirement (has been determined).'' meaning, if she gives up part of the dowry, then you men are allowed to accept that. Allah's statement,
(Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.) is suitable here, after Allah mentioned these prohibitions.



How are these different from what I've been drumming into your head with Qur'an 4:24? It is also about Mutah sir.



Is TenQ now related to both of Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir?
Will you tell me that Kab al-Ahbar your Jewish scapegoat wrote these two tafsirs?


You can see Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir are more encompassing in discussing this verse.


Is it UNTRUE that Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir related Qur'an 4:24 also with Mutah?
Christianity EtcRe: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ:
Explore2xmore:
Finally he covetly admits he cannot present anaything. Maybe I will tell you some in a subsequent post.



Q4:24And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.

Point of focus italicised and emboldened.
(You seek them in marriage) and (desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse.
Of cause,!
What is chastity?

Qur'an 5:87
"O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors."


The background and context for this verse
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"



Chastity is following the rules of Allah for Mutah.
The rules of Allah
Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.


According to Allah, it is a transgression and it is unlawful to RAPE or DEFRAUD an unmarried woman to have sex with her AND A married woman is lawful to Muslims only if she's a prisoner of war

These are the good things Allah has made lawful to you

What is the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر?

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