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Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 11:34pm On Oct 05, 2023
ItsReal:
The live stream is on....


https://www.youtube.com/live/IxX8Jf6WRNU?si=_lhwPB_cfn7LN5vA
I just showed that Mohammed Ali is a Liar!

Can Muslim babies go to hell?
Yes or No!?
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 11:32pm On Oct 05, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
1. My argument is that cousins can be of different tribes. Isn't this obvious in the analogy of Ghanian and Nigerian cousins or Nigerian and other foreign country cousins?


2. I didn't categorically say Mary was Levi or Judah but pointed at their common ancestry.

Numerous search results. Will share these later please
Their common ancestry is Israel or Jacob. From Jacob they split into twelve tribes.

You have just agreed now that Mary and Elizabeth as cousins could come from different tribes. Is this true?

Elizabeth is from the Tribe of Levi!

Again :
Can I know your source of History showing that Mary is from the Tribe of Levi?
I am particularly interested in its age.


Mary can only be a distant relation of Aaron if she's from the Tribe of Levi.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ(op):
But why don't you answer my questions?

Unanswered Basic Questions to The Muslims :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?
5. Is the Muslim prayers valid without the Tashahhud?
6. When you say the Tashahhud, is it directed at Men or directed at God?


ItsReal:
Hello , you remember the live stream of the muslim chanmel i talked about in the past.

It holds today, tonight by 10:25pm

https://youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern?si=JBWPA1KGhTq-tkQC

Be there, looking forward to seeing you.

No copy with senseless copy and paste o , make them no disgrace you
Why don't you ask Mohammed Ali that he should debate either Sam Shamoun or Christian Prince
I'll be waiting to see the match.

Your champion is Intelligent and articulate and his strength is SPEAKING just like Sam Shamoun and Christian Prince.

The Canadian man asked a good question :

Allah destined and created some people for hell fire: Why?

First lie from Mohammed Ali: Allah's Destiny does not affect our freewill therefore, it's all a test. And in a test, some people will pass and others fail!

On this lie: all Mohammed Ali's argument was based.

In Islam, will babies go to hell?

Is the hadith below true or false?

Sahih Muslim 2662 c
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.


Can you see the lies on which Mohammed Ali based his whole explanation!?

Who do you Believe in your prophet Muhammad or Mohammed Ali?


cc:
Ohyoudidnt
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 10:08pm On Oct 05, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Is it impossible to come from different tribes? Say for instance you have a brother that marries a Ghanian woman by their rules the offspring is of Ghanian tribe isn't it?

Your own child is of your own tribe which I believe is one of those in Nigeria. Does the cousin of the Ghanian tribe loose the cousin relation?



Or in simpler terms your sister marries a foreigner and her children though mixed race are of a foreign tribe. Does this remove the cousin relations between your children and hers?
This is why answering these questions would have helped you clarify the issue at hand.

If Mary and Elizabeth are cousins, I does it mean they are fro. I the same tribe?

Again :
Luke traces the genealogy of Jesus through Mary to Judah sir.

1. Is your argument that cousins must have the same tribe?

2. What is the source of your history of Mary coming from the Tribe of Levi?
The date of your source would sure be a big help and clarification!
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Explained At Last... by TenQ: 8:58pm On Oct 05, 2023
SIRTee15:
I will report u to TenQ.
TenQ, Ohyoudidnt has refused to answer my question
He's just doing whataboutism up and down.

It's a simple question, yet a born Muslim refused to answer. Something a Muslim convert answered easily.

My question remain the same?

If the kabba suddenly appears in Lagos. Will Muslims continue to circumambulate in Mecca on an empty space or they will start doing their annual ritual in Lagos.

This is my question and he's telling me about Abraham establishing kabba. What's my business with that story.

He has refused to allow me expose the theology heresy in Islam.

Ohyoudidnt if u don't know the answer, ask your scholars.
Muslims are possessed by the same spirit: they rarely answer direct questions.

Even when they attempt to answer a question, what it is either a diversion from the subject, a lie manufactured to protect Allah and his prophet Muhammad or they would manufacture their own question and answer it.

It's not surprising o!
That is why I always post my evidence to them upfront for just like demons, during deliverance you can't trust their utterances!

Do you want them to implicate Allah and his Messenger Mohammed!?
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 8:47pm On Oct 05, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Your answer doesn't remove a common ancestry of Judah and Levi from whom Mary comes or does it?

Do you aim to destroy ancestral links to Abraham or Adam?

Even with the eventual prohibitions do you say the israelite tribes didn't have intermarriages.

Zakari was of which tribe? Elizabeth his wife was of which tribe? Your Bible is not explicit about how Elizabeth and Mary are related or is it? Perharps if you can trace their relations it will be clearer to you.
Is your argument that Mary is both from the Tribe of Levi and Judah?

Zachariah was of the Tribe of Levi,
Elizabeth was Zachariah's wife and Elizabeth was a cousin of Mary. (Lk1:36)
Elizabeth was of the Tribe of Levi (Lk 1:5)

1. Luke traces the genealogy of Jesus through Mary to Judah sir.

2. Is your argument that cousins must have the same tribe?

3. What is the source of your history of Mary coming from the Tribe of Levi?
The date of your source would sure be a big help and clarification!
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 8:28pm On Oct 05, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Allah is above the heavens and the worlds. It is not exactly correct stating Allah is in heaven though there is the closest heaven to him.
Islam speaks of seven heavens with Allah being above the heavens. I speak not of Islam but Christian and Jewish Theology!
Ohyoudidnt:
The verses you have stated are not explicit or sufficiently detailed however, these accounts do not mention them ascending to Sheol.

In Hebrew, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent to sheol is hades, which is also a general reference to “the place of the dead.

The story in Luke 16:19-31 may be futuristic or analogy saying earthly wealth is not useful in the hereafter.

Thank you for your explanation.
Sheol is divided into two compartments. The first part is where is called Abraham's bosom and the other part is hades or hell (not the lake of fire) or outer darkness!

You are welcome!
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 8:04pm On Oct 05, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
The tribes of Judah and Levi are closely related in biblical history, both sharing a common ancestry in the twelve sons of Jacob. Judah, the fourth son of Jacob and Leah, became the prominent tribe in the southern kingdom of Judah, while Levi, the third son of Jacob and Leah, was chosen by God to serve as priests and caretakers of the tabernacle. Their relationship is based on their shared bloodline and their significant roles in the spiritual and social life of ancient Israel.

Do you state that Levi and Judah are not siblings Sir?
How can the Tribe of Levi and Judah be related as a justification of swapping the Tribe that Mary belong to?

Isreal had 12 Tribes two out of them is Judah (the Tribe of David and Solomon) and Levi (the Tribes of the priests of Israel)

Where did you get your information : every isrealite can belong only to one tribe.

What if I told you that Mohammed is not from Quaresh Tribe BUT from Banu Aws and Banu Khazraj !
My explanation is that:
Quraysh and Banu Aws/Khazraj share a common ancestry in the twelve sons of Ishmael!


Can you see how wonderful my explanation is!?


Is it possible that Mary is from both the Tribe of Levi and the Tribe of Judah?
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 7:03pm On Oct 05, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Mary, the mother of Jesus pbot ancestry can be traced back through Joachim and Anne, leading all the way to Aaron, a prominent figure in biblical history. This lineage not only establishes Mary's legitimacy and connection to the ancient Jewish heritage but also emphasizes the divine plan at work in her life.
No sir!
Mary is from the Tribe of Judah
Aaron, Moses and Miriam are from the Tribe of Levi
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 6:59pm On Oct 05, 2023
motayoayinde:
ALLAH IS OMNIPOTENT HE NEVER MAKES MISTAKES.

THE MISTAKE IS IN YOUR ISLAMOPHOBIC EYES, NO ONE EVER SAID MARYAM WAS MIRIAM IN THE QURAN.

GO GET BUSY WITH THE THOUSANDS OF ERRORS IN YOUR "BIBLES" FIRST
The error is this:
Allah says Mary the Mother of Jesus is the sister of Aaron. This is false sir!

It seems you don't know that Mary and Mariam means exactly the same thing?
How can Mary the mother of Jesus be the sister of Aaron?

No wonder Allah says the sun sets in the murky waters: this not an error! ?

No wonder Allah puts Jewish Children's Bedtime Stories as part of the Qur'an by saying Solomon died and for almost one year no one know until his staff was eaten by insects: this not an error! ?

Women having reproductive fluids come from between her rib and back bone: this not an error! ?

If Allah can make errors modern humans would not make, can he be God?
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 1:40pm On Oct 05, 2023
motayoayinde:
STOP CLOGGING THIS PLACE WITH TRASH.
ISLAM HAS BEEN THE FASTEST SPREADING RELIGION FOR DECADES NOW!!!
Does this make Islam correct?

If Allah can make such errors, thenhe cannot be God!

Can you explain how Mary the Mother of Jesus is the same as Miriam the sister of Aaron?
Christianity EtcRe: Quran Error - Muhamad Declared Mary Mother Of Jesus Was Daughter Of Imran by TenQ: 1:38pm On Oct 05, 2023
basilico:
Miriam sister of Aaron lived 1500 years before Virgin Mary was born.Her father was Imran.
Virgin Mary's father was called Joachim.Not Imran by all means.t
Moses and Aaron had a sister called Miriam (Mary). Allah got it wrong as usual.
Muslim apologists say its metaphorical to say Mary was the daughter of Aaron. Why not Muhammad say Mary was the daughter of King David or Solomon or Jeremiah who never had daughters called Miriam or Mary eg. Or even Prophet Adam , Lot,Abraham. Jonah ( the whale episode).
Prophet plagiarized biblical texts and Allah gets it wrong.As usual.
Quran 66:12.
They are daily manufacturing lies to protect Allah and his favourite messanger Mohammed from this embarrassing text of the Qur'an.

Without lies, Islam cannot Islam will crumble.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by TenQ(op): 9:50pm On Oct 04, 2023
Short Answer,
There is no contradiction!


Ohyoudidnt:
Could you explain and clarify that there is no contradiction?
John 3:13 reads No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

Yet Hebrews 11:5 reads By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God. and 2 Kings 2:11 And as they still went on and talked, behold, chariots of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
Long Answer!


1. The word "Heaven" have different meaning depending on the context in the Bible . It can mean the sky (Mat 14:19), firmament, Sheol (the place of the dead souls Job 21:13), Abraham's bosom (the place where Abraham or the Righteous are kept awaiting resurrection Lk 16:22) or the Abode of God (God's throne) Mat 5:34 .

2. Enoch was not (disappeared) because God took him (away from the earth).
Where did God take him to?
Was it Sheol?
The scripture was not explicit.

Gen 5:24:
"And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him."
Heb 11:5:
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God."


3. Elijah went up with the whirlwind. The whirlwind of course would extend to the sky (until he was seen no more)
God took him (away from the earth).
Where did God take him to?
Was it Sheol?
The scripture was not explicit.

2Kin 2:11:
"And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."


4. Ascention of Christ.
John 3:12-13:
"If I have told you earthly things, and you believe not, how shall you believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

So, I leave you to judge (in context) : which heaven is Jesus speaking about here?

John 14:2-3:
"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you to myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

John 14:27-28:
"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you: not as the world gives, give I to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. You have heard how I said to you, I go away, and come again to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice, because I said, I go to the Father : for my Father is greater than I."

John 16:16:
"A little while, and you shall not see me: and again, a little while, and you shall see me, because I go to the Father."


In context, the heaven Jesus refer to is the Abode of God (God's throne) .
Christianity EtcRe: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:46pm On Oct 04, 2023
youngdroly:
All this rubbish you copied from wikipedia confusing yourself trying to prove a point will only get you confused not a true Muslim. Hit me up on WhatsApp if you want to know the truth 0. 8 0 6 4 5 1 6 4 9 2
Hello my brother,
Nothing here is from Wikipedia.
What you are seeing is enlightenment through the multiplying of accessibility to information which used to be hidden behind the Arabic language.

In those days, but for me to read any hadith, I have to get to the library but not now, thank God for the internet. We have access to the Qur'an both in Arabic and English, the Tafsirs, the Hadiths and other Islamic religious books.

We now see all the things hidden from ordinary Muslims. We come across lies spoken to protect both Mohammed and Allah. To learn Islam, just read a few of my posts, I then come back to tell me it isn't true
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 9:55pm On Oct 03, 2023
elated177:
TenQ, do you agree his Name is important?
God's name is super important and unique!
However, I also have a relationship with Him that I just call Him Daddy or my Father in Heaven or Lord God Almighty. He knows that I refer to Him as his name is not a Talisman that open the door for just anyone!
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 12:04pm On Oct 02, 2023
elated177:
TenQ, here it is.
In the context of Ambassador and Authority. This was why I neither mentioned the name Jesus nor Yahweh!

TenQ:
It simply means "by the Authority of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit"!

It means you are like an Ambassador working in the Name of God in His full Nature and Office.

If a Minister or an Ambassador says anything outside the Nation, I it is assumed that he speaks in the Name of the President of Nigeria (the specific name is not important)
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 9:24am On Oct 02, 2023
elated177:
TenQ, didn't you say that the Name wasn't important?

You tell me, did the Israelites use the name of YHVH Almighty when Yahushua the Messiah was on earth?
Can you please quote me properly where I said that?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 2:17pm On Oct 01, 2023
Qasim6:
Why are you making a fool of yourself?

We all know your religion paulinity is built on lies and that forgery of a book you call scripture. Don't assume we are like that.

We are clear of rubbish and nonsense.

Why did you not translate this part "Peace be upon us, and upon the righteous servants of Allah." as Muslims are praying to themselves?
Sorry for getting under your skin with my post.

I would like to ask to a basic question :
1. Is the Tashahhud said as part of prayers or not?

Thank you sir
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 6:31am On Oct 01, 2023
AntiChristian:
He corrected you! He is superior to you holy spirit wise!

Mr Hashi(e)m! The letter "I" and "e" are separated by four letters. How come you mistook them if not ignorance and arrogance!

Bible copyists made mistakes, hence they got no holy spirit!
I am human therefore No problem!


Doesn't it worry you that Allah and his prophet make silly human-like errors in the Quran?

It it not true shows that Allah cannot be God if he can make such silly mistakes in I will his own books?

They are even worse than mistakes: they are errors, goofs and display of ignorance.


Why not check by asking Questions before you get to the day of judgment and you discover how you have been Deceived by the Believing Arrogant Deciever himself

It's for the sake of your eternity.
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 9:16pm On Sep 30, 2023
AntiChristian:
Bible get copyists errorrrrrrrr oo!
Na your brother talk am above!
Why not ask him?

Why not respond to the claim that:
From your Islamic literatures I show you that Allah is not supposed to be making silly human-like errors like you and me.

But if Allah and his Apostle doesn't know the difference between Jewish Children Bedtime stories and reality like Solomon who died for almost a year and no one found out and Solomon's magic ring!

When Allah the Creator forgot that he did not put the sun inside any murky waters.

When even you Muslims pray daily to Mohammed as partner with Allah to which you refuse to respond after my last question cornered you.
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 8:35pm On Sep 30, 2023
elated177:
TenQ, I suppose you have understood the premise of this thread.

So, why did you say that the Name wasn't important?

Of course, the Name of the One and only True God, YHVH Almighty, must be revered and deserves all the reverence and respect. However, I don't think that the Israelites of old stopped using his Name because of their reverence for him. Do a little research. Didn't you see Jeremiah 23:27 that I quoted above?

TenQ, where is YAHVEH in the name "Jesus"?
1. I have not discussed the name YHWH throughout my conversation with you.
2. Did Jews at the time of Jesus utter the name YHWH?
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 6:43pm On Sep 30, 2023
elated177:
TenQ, where did I say that Yahushua the Messiah was asking his disciples about the name "Yahweh"?

Did not the disciples of Yahushua the Messiah use his name?

Have you found out or asked yourself why the Israelites of old refused to utter the name of the Father in heaven?

You have been corrected already, it is HaShem and not Hashim.
I didn't say that you said anything about the name Yahweh!

I didn't say the disciples of Jesus never used His name.

The name of Yahweh is so revered that they wouldn't even risk miscalling the name or calling the name in vain . Thus they say Hashem!

All human beings are subject to error and only a fool despise correction!
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 2:02pm On Sep 30, 2023
AntiChristian:
That's one of the lies you believed in Islam and you projected to Christianity!

Mr Hashe(i]m!

And what about the copyists error you've been running away from?
My spelling error and I admit it.

Unlike you Muslims that don't own up to grand errors by both Allah and his Apostle Mohammed.

From your Islamic literatures I show you that Allah is not supposed to be making silly human-like errors like you and me.

But if Allah and his Apostle doesn't know the difference between Jewish Children Bedtime stories and reality like Solomon who died for almost a year and no one found out and Solomon's magic ring!

When Allah the Creator forgot that he did not put the sun inside any murky waters.

When even you Muslims pray daily to Mohammed as partner with Allah to which you refuse to respond after my last question cornered you.

We showed you that Allah says you are all going to hell but you wouldn't listen. Indeed, I your deception can only be helped when you become slightly more sincere to ask questions
TravelRe: Two LAUTECH Students, Driver Burnt To Death In Road Crash by TenQ: 11:07am On Sep 30, 2023
preekahantas:
Another one?
Male drivers are the worst on the road!
And you dad is male!?
Okay!
He doesn't drive!
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 10:16am On Sep 30, 2023
AntiChristian:
lipsrsealed

Hashim is the tribe of Muhammad's great grand father, his name being Hashim Ibn Abd Manaf!

cool

Too much Islamic material! grin
Too much error!
Unnecessary debate with yourself!

Someone mentioned copyists error in your Bible you no fight am now o!



How you take know say na copyists error?
Okay sir!

I thought you were feigning deaf and dumb with respect to my questions on you praying to Mohammed!?
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 7:30am On Sep 30, 2023
NNTR:
Hey-ho. Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind. You'll learn, as you get older, that rules are made to be broken

No one is debating anything with you, other than pointing out to you, your gaffe, where you mistook Hashim for Hashem aka HaShem

The other aspect is that, its an inescapable fact and truth, that '... in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit' is a later addition inserted by scripture copyist(s)

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Thanks for the correction!

Hashem aka HaShem it is!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 6:55am On Sep 30, 2023
They prefer to have Mohammed as the assistant Allah than answering questions for the benefit of their souls.

Unanswered Basic Questions to The Muslims :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?
5. Is the Muslim prayers valid without the Tashahhud?
6. When you say the Tashahhud, is it directed at Men or directed at God?
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 6:10am On Sep 30, 2023
NNTR:
Acts 8:12,16
12But when they believed Philip as he preached the gospel of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ,
they were baptized, both men and women.
16For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them;
they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.


Acts 19:4-5
4Paul explained:
“John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance.
He told the people to believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
5On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.


The original text, never said anything about baptising in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit

From above few examples, the disciples baptised, in the name of Jesus. They did not, baptise, in a phantom, the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy/Set-apart Spirit, simply because '... in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit' is a later addition

Only God knows, what is His Name and/or what 'The Name' is. (i.e. Revelation 19:12)

Genesis 10:1
These are the records of the generations (descendants) of Shem, Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah;
and the sons born to them after the flood:


Genesis 11:4
They said,
“Come, let us build a city for ourselves, and a tower whose top will reach into the heavens,
and let us make a [famous] name (i.e. Shem) for ourselves,
so that we will not be scattered [into separate groups]
and be dispersed over the surface of the entire earth [as the LORD instructed].”


Hashem, aka HaShem, actually means 'The Name', Hashim, on the other hand, has nothing to do with Hebrew or Aramaic, being that its an Arabic word. Even Hashim does not mean The Blessed One

Hashem, is related to another word Shem, which means 'name' 'renown' or 'fame'.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
As a rule, I don't debate issues relating to the technicalities of water baptism for a number of reasons.

1. We are baptised with a greater baptism than water baptism. Anyone who is not baptised with this baptism is not of Christ through
John 1:33:
"And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said to me, On whom you shall see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizes with the Holy Ghost."

Acts 11:16:
"Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but you shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost."

1Cor 12:13:
"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

Eph 4:5:
"One Lord, one faith, one baptism,"

2. The arguments on the technicalities water baptism is mundane
Heb 6:1-3:
"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on to perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit."

3. It is true the Disciples baptised in the Name (Authority) of Jesus Christ AND there were examples where Baptism was done without emphasis on the Name
Acts 16:15:
"And when she was baptized, and her household, she sought us, saying, If you have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us."

Acts 16:33:
"And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway."

Acts 18:8:
"And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized."

Rom 6:3:
"Know you not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?"

4. The fact that the reference to Baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit occurs just once does not make it untrue EXCEPT you are willing to concede that any verse which appear just once is UNTRUE. I stand by every verse of the scripture with no exception.

Is this verse an Interpolation as it occurred just once throughout the Bible.
Mar 16:16:
"He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned."

The "good" thief on the cross was saved: was he baptised!



5. In whose name did John the Baptist Baptise people? (If the actual name is the important factor).
Mat 3:16:
"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, see, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting on him:"

Then, how do you think the disciples baptise people before the death of Christ.

John 4:1-2:
"When therefore the LORD knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples, )"

6. On Technicalities, do you follow this scripture exactly? Does the baptised call on the name of Jesus?

Acts 22:16:
"And now why tarry you? arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord."

It's just a question o!



Finally,
On the issue of Baptism:
Baptism is an INDUCTION : the question is there are different kinds of baptism (induction). Don't lose sight of the significance!
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ: 8:51pm On Sep 29, 2023
elated177:
Exodus 3:13 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”

TenQ, it is almost like you want to close this thread before it has even progressed?
In context, I don't think Jesus was asking His disciples about the "Name" Yahweh which of course not a single Jew would utter with their mouth. They would rather refer to God as Hashim (The Blessed One)
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Put Most People In Poor Homes And Some In Rich Homes? by TenQ: 5:27pm On Sep 29, 2023
Hidewell:
Your valid points are welcome.
God did not put anyone anywhere. The system of this world did!

You are a product of your parents and their environment. This is your reality exam within which ALL your Trials, Temptations, Events and Your Choices are determined.

You live with your lot. Whatever you have in this your environment is the grace alloted to you as a human being.
Christianity EtcRe: In The Name Of The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit: What Is The Name? by TenQ:
elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Proverbs 30: 4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Whose hands have gathered up the wind?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his NAME, and what is the NAME of his son?
Surely you know!


2 Chronicles 7: 14 if my people, who are called by my NAME, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
16 I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my NAME may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there.


1 Kings 9: 3 YHVH said to him:
“I have heard the prayer and plea you have made before me; I have consecrated this temple, which you have built, by putting my NAME there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there.[b]

[b] John 5: 43 I have come in my Father’s NAME, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.


John 17: 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your NAME, the NAME you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that NAME you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

More to come.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!
It simply means "by the Authority of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit"!

It means you are like an Ambassador working in the Name of God in His full Nature and Office.

If a Minister or an Ambassador says anything outside the Nation, I it is assumed that he speaks in the Name of the President of Nigeria (the specific name is not important)
Christianity EtcRe: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 2:17pm On Sep 29, 2023
MightySparrow:
A whole lot by Satan!


How would Allah ask to take his son's wife? How would Allah ask him to rewrite the story of Israelites dutifully documented mix them with Arabian nights storys. How could Allah asked him to say that the father of Virgin Mary was Imran?
The story of sucking of breast by adults and the rest.
So many ugly things that their sheikh's are ashamed of saying publicly.

I think the Quran was produced by Satan, Mohammed and a Jew or somebody who knew the Jewish scriptures.
Meaning that we have a Trinity of Allah, the Satan and Mohammed switching roles at will to mislead dumbbut stubborn and simple hearted Arabs.

There are too many things that are off. Christian Prince is of the opinion that the earlier parts of the Qur'an was written by Waraqa himself and that Mohammed was his illegitimate son. I can't confirm this but it looks plausible!

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