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Explore2xmore:
Did Muhammad pbuh have anything between his hands?
You choose that because of you delusion to drive your lie that he could read and write?

The urine of the prophet pbuh cures no one and the saying is another fabrication of you lieing enemies of Allah, Muhammad pbuh and Islam.

But your hadith says otherwise sir!
Muslims attest to the authenticity of the hadiths from where the hadiths about the blessed urine of Mohammed is found complete with their chains of narrations

Please read:
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/

This is what your scholars teach o!

How about Mohammeds urine giving people power to escape hell fire?

FxMasterz:
You see now? Which deceiver would boldly tell you to test the spirits?

Only a 419 will give you a document he attests to be true but ask you not to verify the content nor ask questions about the document.

Such is Islam from the greatest scammer and 419 Mohammed aka Qutham!

Explore2xmore:
In 4:64 you see ask Allah's forgiveness how then is it Muhammad pbuh that forgives.

Your tendency to lie even has you fabricating an imposibilty Bible 46:31 is this how Biblical verses are written?

Indeed you are a time waster!

Your literal translation in Quran 46:31 and previously Quran 9:31 is simply a case of

They (YOU) seek to deceive Allah and the believers, yet they only deceive themselves, but they fail to perceive it.

You think being obstinate will deliver you from the woes of Islam!?

No sir.


The topic of today is about the advantages of the Holy Urine of Prophet Mohammed.

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire?
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?


Please, no more digressions!

Explore2xmore:
Bumkum! Definitely this is where you are going. Of course you do not know:

وَمَا كُنتَ تَتْلُوا۟ مِن قَبْلِهِۦ مِن كِتَـٰبٍۢ وَلَا تَخُطُّهُۥ بِيَمِينِكَ ۖ إِذًۭا لَّٱرْتَابَ ٱلْمُبْطِلُونَ
You ˹O Prophet˺ could not read any writing ˹even˺ before this ˹revelation˺, nor could you write at all. Otherwise, the people of falsehood would have been suspicious.


Does confirming what was before it of the Scripture and affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture both exist in one verse?
This is your lie!


Another lie is your attempt to equate
مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ which occurs only twice in the Quran to مُصَدِّقًۭا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ ۗ.
You are simply a lieing deceiver

Ask both Pickthall and Sahih International how they got their translation from the Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?

Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

The translation of the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in Qur'an 5:48 was fit into your translation, and that I did.
I am repeating this for the second and last time.

Sorry sir!
You lose as usual.


Now, According if you don't mind:
The topic of today is about the advantages of the Holy Urine of Prophet Mohammed.

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire?
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?


Please, let's no more digressions!

In conclusion on this as you have derailed the topic completely, I will walk you down memory lane.

1. It all started with me saying

TenQ:
Mr honesttalk21,
My arguments were simple and not disputable sir.

1. Allah is the God of the Muslims
2. Mohammed is a partner with Allah (even though Muslims dispute this)

Evidences
1. Can a person become a Muslim without swearing allegiance to BOTH Allah and Mohammed in reciting the sahada?
If Mohammed was just a messanger, why not just swear allegiance to Allah?
Is this not partnership with Allah?

2. Did Allah say in the Qur'an that Mohammed will forgive Muslims (and Jinns) their sins?
The fact that you deny this does not change the words of Allah in the Qur'an.
Is this not partnership with Allah?
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Qur'an 4:64
We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful.

3. Must a Muslim obey BOTH Allah and Mohammed? In fact, Allah says that following Mohammed is the same as following Allah.
Is this not partnership with Allah?

Qur'an 4:79-80:
We have sent you (O Mohamed) as a Messenger to mankind, and Allah’s witness suffices for this. Whoever obeys the Messenger, in fact obeys Allah, and whoever turns away from him, he (saws) will not be accountable for their deeds. Anyhow, we have not sent you (O Mohamed) to be a guardian over them.

4. With respect to forgiveness of sin,
If the black stone can forgive the sins of Muslims, how much more the greatest prophet in the universe Mohammed!
Doesn't the black stone forgive sins of Muslims?

Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said:
"O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'"

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 959
Ibn Ubaid bin Umair narrated from his father:
"Ibn Umar was clinging on the two corners (in a manner that I had not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet doing) so I said: 'O Abu Abdur-Rahman! You are clinging on the two corners in a manner that I have not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet clining.' So he said: 'I do it because I heard the Messenger of Allah saying: "Touching them atones for sins." And I heard him saying: "Whoever performs Tawaf around this House seven times and he keeps track of it, then it is as if he freed a slave." And I heard him saying: "One foot is not put down, nor another raised except that Allah removes a sin from him and records a good merit for him."

5. Can you show me evidence of any purely human prophet of Allah to which obeying them is obeying Allah or a purely human prophet to which declaration of faith include their name or a purely human prophet who forgives sin and will admit people into paradise?
Is it Moses, Zachariah, Yahaya, Yakubu etc



Finally,
You still haven't answered this question of mine

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ بَولَ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Can you please translate the above?
How is it similar or different from Qur'an 46:31?



No one is disputing the fact that in Islam, Allah forgives. What we are saying is that Mohammed is
1. A mediator in forgiveness and
2. Mohammed too forgives sin of Muslims.
3. You must obey BOTH Allah and Mohammed
4. You can't even become a Muslim without a shahada involving BOTH Mohammed and Allah

Maybe you will answer these questions of mine tomorrow.

Then, I said:

TenQ:
You will notice that it is you Muslims who have disagreements among yourself for the conjectures you have manufactured for the As-Samari. If the As-Samari was a chief of Banu Israel, you should be able to tell us his tribe.

You asked a Question:
The following instruction of Moses to the Levites that led to the killing of 3,000 israelites is indeed quite worrisome. Is that how brutal the Christian God is?
Response:
Unfortunately for you, you didn't notice that God did NOT instruct Moses to carry out the command of killing the Israelites who had gone rogue just as God didn't ask Moses to break the commandments on the stone tablets.

Now!
At least you are coming closer to the true narrative except that the Quran calls him As-Samari (the Samaritan) and not Samari .
Your English translators of the Quran recognises this as to call the As-Samari the Samaritan

Lets look at this carefully and reasonably
1. Moses wrote the Taurat and he said that Aaron was the one who made the Golden Calf for Isrealihts to worship
2. Moses the author of the Taurat said that he questioned Aaron as per why he did such evil
Exodus 32:21
21 He said to Aaron, “What did these people do to you, that you led them into such great sin?”
3. Moses the Author of the Taurat said that Aaron Admited his guilt but said to him that he was compelled by the people to make the idol
Exodus 32:22-24
22 “Do not be angry, my lord,” Aaron answered. “You know how prone these people are to evil. 23 They said to me, ‘Make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.’ 24 So I told them, ‘Whoever has any gold jewelry, take it off.’ Then they gave me the gold, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf!”
4. Moses the Author of the Taurat put the blame on Aaron for making the children of Israel run wild and out of control
Exodus 32:25
25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies.

The Bible did NOT hide the sin of anyone unlike the Quran. If God even punished Moses for his sin against Him, how much more putting in record the sin of Aaron, David, Solomon etc.

Problem of Islam:
1. Mohammed claimed to beleive in the Tortah where the account of Aaron and the golden calf was written
Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4434
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school. They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.
2. Allah agree with the scripture of the Jews and the Christians
Quran 3:3-4
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.
Quran 46:30
They said, "Our people, we have heard a Book that was sent down after Moses, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), guiding to the truth and to a straight path."
3. Since Allah did not tell you who the As-Samari is nor Muhammed, every other thing you Muslims have said in explanation of who the identity of the As-Samari is are mere worthless conjectures. Neigher Mohammed nor Allah explained the identity of your so called As-Samari
4. The term As-Samari in Arabic mean just one thing: "The Samaritan: a citizen of the city of Samaria"


Unfortunately, this is just one of the many errors of Allah in the Quran.

You jumped on the fact that I said:
Allah agree with the scripture of the Jews and the Christians
Quran 3:3-4
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.


And your response was:

Explore2xmore:
Who's translations do you use here. "That which is between his hands" is not in the Arabic.

Your claim of
"That which is between his hands" is not in the Arabic.



Is what we have been pursuing over several pages of back and forth spanning two separate Original Posts.


You should actually apologise for wasting everyone's time over nothing.





Now, According if you don't mind:
The topic of today is about the advantages of the Holy Urine of Prophet Mohammed.

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire?
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?


Please, let's no more digressions!

Explore2xmore:
Can you explain what was between his hands in this word for word translation?
Your submissions for having both confirming what eas before it and affirming what is between his hands is not accepted because you deliberately separated these by criterion over it. Does this not change the meaning of the verse translated?
Your Translation
And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
وَمُهَيْمِنًا = and dominant note مُهَيْمِنًا is dominant

وكوصي= and as a guardian
وباعتباره وليا = and as a guardian
Guardian in arabic can also be حافظ
Don’t get caught in the web of the literal word-for-word translation.
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Explore2xmore:
You are the expert of time wasting.
1. Leading the gullible into your falsehood driven exercise? Does the Quran not say:

Surely the worst of beasts in God's sight are those that are deaf and dumb and do not reason. (8:22)

Do they not then think deeply in the Quran, or are their hearts locked up (from understanding it)?(47:24)

And those who strive in Our (cause), – We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily Allah is with those who do right” [29:69]

Don't you waste time asking silly questions on what is not truth? You misinterpret Quran verses and lay claim to Hadith that Allah did not reveal or preserve nor Muhammad encourage its collection.

Your translation however it may be has just one translation of مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ and can you explain it's meaning based on what was between his hands? Do this and let this be fully resolved

1. It is at least good that you have FINALLY realized and accepted that the phrase
"Confirming that which is between his hands" exist in the Qur'an.

2. Your problem is that I shouldn't have translated it literally.

3. You want the meaning of the phrase "Confirming that which is between his hands"


Good!

The meaning of the phrase "Confirming that which is between his hands" is also conveyed in other verses of the Qur'an such as

Quran 2:41:
Literal Translation: "And believe in what I have sent down confirming that which is [already] with you, and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear [only] Me."

Quran 2:89:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers."

Quran 2:101:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah confirming that which was with them, a party of those who had been given the Scripture threw the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know [what it contained]."

Qur'an 2:91
And when it is said to them, 'Believe in what Allah has revealed,' they say, 'We believe [only] in what was revealed to us.' And they disbelieve in what came after it, while it is the truth confirming that which is with them. Say, 'Then why did you kill the prophets of Allah before, if you are [indeed] believers?'"






And thus the phrase "Confirming that which is between his hands" means

1. confirming that (the book) which is [already] with you,
or
2. confirming that (the book) which is accessible to you

or
3. confirming the currently existing scriptures


Allah is referring to the scripture of the Jews and Christians.

Mr Explore2xmore,
You are indeed wasting my time.

For the last time.


Quran 5:48:
وَأَنزَلْنَا - And We have sent down
إِلَيْكَ - to you
ٱلْكِتَٰبَ - the Book
بِٱلْحَقِّ - with truth
مُصَدِّقًا - confirming
لِّمَا - what
بَيْنَ - was between
يَدَيْهِ - his hands
مِنَ - of
ٱلْكِتَٰبِ - the Book
وَمُهَيْمِنًا - and as a guardian
عَلَيْهِ - over it
فَٱحْكُم - So judge
بَيْنَهُم - between them
بِمَآ - by what
أَنزَلَ - Allah has revealed
ٱللَّهُ - Allah
وَلَا - and do not
تَتَّبِعْ - follow
أَهْوَآءَهُمْ - their desires
عَمَّا - from what
جَآءَكَ - has come to you
مِنَ - of
ٱلْحَقِّ - the truth
لِكُلٍّ - To each
جَعَلْنَا - We have prescribed
مِنكُمْ - from you
شِرْعَةً - a law
وَمِنْهَاجًا - and a method
وَلَوْ - And if
شَآءَ - willed
ٱللَّهُ - Allah
لَجَعَلَكُمْ - would have made you
أُمَّةً - one nation
وَٰحِدَةً - single
وَلَٰكِن - but
لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ - to test you
فِى - in
مَآ - what
ءَاتَىٰكُمْ - He has given you
فَٱسْتَبِقُوا۟ - so race
ٱلْخَيْرَٰتِ - to the good
إِلَى - To
ٱللَّهِ - Allah
مَرْجِعُكُمْ - is your return
جَمِيعًا - all together
فَيُنَبِّئُكُم - and He will inform you
بِمَا - concerning what
كُنتُمْ - you were
فِيهِ - in
تَخْتَلِفُونَ - you used to differ.


Have a good night rest

Explore2xmore:
I have answered you and their translations don't duplicate a translation of مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ.

Sorry sir,
Until you explain how
Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Red in the Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?

Otherwise, answer my questions below

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, protect me how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?

Explore2xmore:
Don't play smart I say fit.

Explore2xmore:
And you are not able to discern that what is meant is to use your translation for مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in translating the verse?

Do Picktall and Sahih's translations also have a separate affirming what is between his hands in their translations?

Stop wasting my time!
Call back after you explain how Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Red in the Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?

Otherwise, answer my questions below

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, protect me how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?

FxMasterz:
I tell you bro. If you can't ask questions, you're already in bondage for sure.

A 1000% correct.

Even as Christians, Jews we must ask questions.

Mat 24:4:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you."

This we can only do when we TEST all spirits

1Jn 4:1:
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

Explore2xmore:
Kindly also highlight what you translate as
confirming what was before it

Your translation represented for you here:

Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."

The question was to insert my translation of the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in Qur'an 5:48, and that I did.


Can you please show me where Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?


Qur'an 5:48 Arabic
وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ بِٱلْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيْمِنًا عَلَيْهِ ۖ فَٱحْكُم بَيْنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَآءَهُمْ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مِنكُمْ شِرْعَةً وَمِنْهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمْ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ فِى مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمْ ۖ فَٱسْتَبِقُوا۟ ٱلْخَيْرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ
Qur'an 5:48 Pickthall
And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.

Qur'an 5:48 Sahih Intl
And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.



Can I put it to you than Muslim translations cannot be trusted?
(As you insert words Allah didn't say into the Qur'an)

FxMasterz:
Yeah, your posts are two-edged swords. The open the eyes of Muslims to their errors, and also warn people of other faiths concerning the deception of Islam.

Do you know that due to ignorance and satanic deception, most people who were never religious in their lives, on their death beds, when asked to choose between the Bible and the Quran before departing to the great beyond, most of these people, being deceived by the God of this world often choose the Quran and have an Alfa pray for them before dieing?

If they've had access to your type of expositions before reaching that stage in life, they'll certainly make better choices.

Thank God for the internet. the The deception of Islam would have been total.
Unfortunately, the as long as they learn not to ask questions, please they would remain deceived by Allah the greatest deceiver

prophetfire:
Doing what everyone else is doing na.

What is everybody doing?

Pretending that they want to be married while they are already married?

Explore2xmore:
Kindly also highlight what you translate as
confirming what was before it

Are you blind!?

You highlighted in bold the phrase I've translated for you didn't you!?

Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

Can you see why you are a time waster!?

Explore2xmore:
Synonym is one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses

Very simple by your translation:

Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."

Simply state if both phrases emboldened above are in that sentence?
Why did you place affirming what is between His hands in your translation along with confirming what was before it? Are both phrases there?
What do you intend by that? Who else has translated in such manner?

Please respond first to my three questions!

Once you can speak the truth in Translating accurately the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
You will be free!

Again, please respond to my questions before you go on further

Exceed15:
U have a point o. There's a role of parents( traditional and church in marriage proceedings. The father has given his blessings and the pastor too need to uphold the church procedure to pronounce them man and wife in the presence of the people.

Actually, if the couple see the traditional wedding as their last wedding rite, they should request for church blessing NOT another second Marriage.

It is wrong to tell a priest to join you in marriage that is worth nothing. Any priest who does a useless wedding does not know his job

FxMasterz:
Yes bro.

God has been using you to do a great job. You can never know the impact you've made until we appear before the judgement seat of Christ to receive the rewards.

Keep it up bro. The Lord would upon their eyes and set the captives free. We'll never stop praying for them.

Amen Bro!

I pray that some of them will have their eyes opened to seek to know the true Messiah and be saved.

Keep up the good work too. The Lord prosper your effort.

I am glad that apart from showing Muslims the unreliability of Islam, Allah we also expose Christians to what Islam truly is

ANTIlSLAM:
Muhammad at it again

I am so disappointed in you o!

I was expecting the Urine of Mohammed in bottles not carmel Urine or are they synonymous?

Can carmel urine also guarantee Muslims paradise?
Don't you want Muslims to go to Jan ah?

Explore2xmore:
How can we take Tenq seriously when he presented:

As a translation for:
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ


Please note he has defined an equivalent for affirming. Can he present another equivalent for confirming in the above verse?

It is a pure waste of time for me to engage a person whose level of English comprehension (most likely deliberately) does not understand that the word affirm is a synonym for the word confirm

For the tenth time I have asked you to Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ

When you refused to do so, I even translated it for you as

the same as
In English: "confirming what is between His hands"

And specifically in your question

Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

I translated the bolded to be affirming what is between His hands

1. I challenge you to prove me in error with my translation by going word for word or phrase by phrase
My translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Now Mallam English Failure (Which I know is deliberate act of yours for you can speak fairly good English)

2. Which of these two translations below is wrong
Translation of the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
a. "confirming what is between His hands"
b. affirming what is between His hands

Please argue with common sense and stop being a time waster!

3. Stop using evasive techniques and answer my Questions

1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, protect me how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire
2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache?
3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?

Mallam Ohyoudidnt
Are these false hadiths?
Is the Urine of Mohammed the river of paradise?

MightySparrow:
To me Mohammed is only a prophet of lie, sex, and greed.
All he schemes were women, materialism, control using the existing acceptable avenue of a thriving religion to achieve.

See how not even one of the has come out to say anything about this thread. If it was in the mosque now, they will all be chanting Allahhu Akbar!

Like satan, indeed Allah is the best of Deceivers!

FxMasterz:
Each piece of truth after truth would gradually dismantle the web of lies.

Amen!
The only problem is that, Muslims have been inoculated against the Truth.

The would rather defend a lie and adopt the same lie in hope of defending Mohammed

Mr Allikola,
Is this thread a fabrication against prophet Muhammad?

FxMasterz:
Hmm.

I wish you could create a thread to compare between the Christian heaven and the Muslim heaven so that readers could determine which is the real or false heaven.

That would be cool.

Unfortunately, the he who is infected with the demon of Islam would not listen. The depraved mind is looking forward to lazily having endless sex with perpetual big breasted virgins specially created for sexual duties by Allah!

MMWandali:
They were already married under native law and custom
Whatever was done by the priest is only ceremonial rite of religion and not essential for the validity of the customary marriage

Did they tell the priest that they want him to my to
join them in marriage
or
to just perform a meaningless ceremony
or
for church blessing


What was their purpose for coming to the priest?

Iseoluwani:
rule one
is it in the bible

in biblical hermeneutics there is what we call rule of first mention

Is court/civil wedding in the Bible?
Is it thus Biblically illegal?

FxMasterz:
That's it bro.

Everything revolves around Mohammed. Even paradise river is his urine.

Only satan tempts people with endless sex, Booze and women. Allah succeeded in this with Muslims.

When Muslims do their Dawa to convert Christians to Islam, can they pretend that their paradise is exactly that of the Christians. The Gullible ones will swallow the bait unknown to them, they have just exchanged their life for death and their light for darkness

seeme2:
Preists joining couples is not even biblical. The moment your spouse's parents or anybody they reckon as having authority over them gives the go ahead, omo marriage don start be that.

All of these new age rules were created by man to abrogated more power to themselves.

This authority include the priests doesn't it?

If a court clerk can join people in marriage, I how much more their pastors.

By they way,
What did they go to church to do knowing that they were already married?
I don't understand!

MMWandali:
Religiousness of the people
Mind you it's different from Godliness

I agree!
But they came to the priest for a wedding ceremony and not a blessing ceremony.

If they had told the priest that they were already married, would he have the right to pronounce them husband and wife for the second time?

Exceed15:
Left fot the father he doesn't church to validate the wedding. It is sidrens lol.. of nowadays that want d so called white wedding

So, why did the Father follow his wedded children to the church and what was supposed to be the function of the priest?

prophetfire:
Valid before the law.

The basic question is:
Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?

Exceed15:
The pastor goofed. He should avoided the mild drama.

Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?