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Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 3:19pm On Sep 15, 2023
Matrix137:
And I'm telling you that paying the bride price to the girls parents is sufficient enough than any rite or whatever. As long as there is an agreement from all the parties involved.
I agree that paying the bride price to the parent is sufficient only if that is their last marriage rite.

Why did they go to the priest when they know that they are already married?
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 3:17pm On Sep 15, 2023
lexy2014:
You are yet to answer my question.

In asking that question you say u asked, how did that lead to the following conclusions?
I have answered your question several times but you seem not to comprehend.

What did they come to do before the priest?
Was it for their wedding?

If it is wedding, I aren't they already married ?

What did they tell the priest as the purpose of their coming to him?


Does their marriage/wedding rite include church wedding?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 3:13pm On Sep 15, 2023
papagiddy:
Islam....very funny Religion...Just try listen to Chritian Prince on youtube.com...u won't believe how funny Islam is..honestly!!
Islam is not only funny, I it is a deliberate deception to replace the Messiah with Mohammed.

And this has been done through lies and deceit. They are waiting for a non existent paradise with perpetual big breasted virgins, young boys, alcohol, endless sex.. forgetting that only satan tempts people with such kind of temptations
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 3:09pm On Sep 15, 2023
MightySparrow:
Muslims are cyclic liars defending lies with lies. grin
They relish lying as long as it protects their religion and their prophet. The epidemic of lying is endemic in them.

=They will twist the Arabic
=Deny History
=Fabricate new meaning for a word of verse
=Insist that the apparent meaning is not correct but their own version.

Only God can set them free but only when they choose to want to be free
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 3:05pm On Sep 15, 2023
lexy2014:
And In asking that question, how did u come by this?
You will understand the purpose if you can only answer this question

Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 3:02pm On Sep 15, 2023
Nuheights:
As far as our culture is concerned:
Church wedding without traditional marriage is invalid.
Traditional marriage without church wedding is very valid.
God recognises all kinds of marriage rites for a wedding
1. Traditional Wedding
2. Civil or Court wedding
3. Church Wedding
4. Mosque wedding

Is there any good reason why you think an already married people should get married AGAIN?
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 2:57pm On Sep 15, 2023
lexy2014:
In asking that question, how did u come by this?
The question is how I came by it.

Is a marriage official while the last marriage rite has not been done?

It is a simple question!


modified!
Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 2:55pm On Sep 15, 2023
FxMasterz:
I expect antichristian to go and create a counter thread as he usually does. Rather than reflect on the eternal destination of his soul, he'll see it as an attack on his religion. He'll then go an create a thread full of lies to discredit the Bible or Christians. After creating the thread, his lies would be exposed, then he'll run away to create another failed thread similar to one of his failed topics.

When will these guys open their eyes to see that the Arabs have scammed their souls? Allah and Mohammed are the best of scammers.
Give him time to come from the Mosque. He would find another lame post from the fake self proclaimed ex pastor Samson Lucas Bashir to attempt deflecting the discussion.

Why is Islam so problematic. An endless cascade of lies that they can't keep up with.
LOL!
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 2:48pm On Sep 15, 2023
FxMasterz:
How can this be allegorical when fellow Muslims are drinking urine straight from a physical bowl under a physical bed of a physical Mohammed?
You know these Muslims
1. They would first deny it
2. then claim it a lie
3. then say that hadith is fabricated
4. Then say the chains of Narration is broken
5.then Enemies of Islam wrote the hadith
6. then the say, show us from the Qur'an
7. they finally say that it is allegorical
8. Just begin to repeat their stance over and over again

This is my experience with them o
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 2:43pm On Sep 15, 2023
lexy2014:
That's not what I asked you.

How did u come by this?
By asking a basic simple question :

Is a couple officially married while they haven't concluded the last marriage rite?
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 2:42pm On Sep 15, 2023
prophetfire:
Biblically, the man was right. No pastor has any business joining couple together in marriage. It's a family affair and the prerogative of the parents.
So,
when they have concluded their marriage rites, what were they doing before the priest?
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 2:40pm On Sep 15, 2023
lexy2014:
How did u come by this?
Just as yourself a basic question

Is a couple officially married while they haven't concluded the last marriage rite?
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 2:39pm On Sep 15, 2023
Matrix137:
It's not just about saying it. Can you kindly show me a bible verse validating your stance?
What is a marriage/wedding rite?

Can a person legally be said to have officially married his wife when the wedding rites are yet to be concluded?
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 2:10pm On Sep 15, 2023
Iseoluwani:
grin

Actually after the traditional/ engagement, they are married.

church is just a formality
No sir.

If traditional wedding is their last marriage rites, yes!
If the marriage rites include a church wedding, I then the church ceremony becomes the last marriage rite
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 2:08pm On Sep 15, 2023
Matrix137:
As a Christian, a bride is officially yours to wife after paying the bride price to the parents and there is an agreement with both of you and the respective families. Wedding or not isn't compulsory (traditional or White). That's the biblical instructions. Thanks


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No sir.

A marriage becomes official after the LAST marriage rite has been performed. I it is as simple as that
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 1:55pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore,
What do you say!?

Is the Urine of Mohammed the river of paradise?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 1:53pm On Sep 15, 2023
FxMasterz:
I now know the reason why Antichristian wants to die a Muslim. So that he can drink from paradise's river of Mohammed's urine while enjoying his 72 virgins. The urine would be responsible for his eternal erection.
Shame and Delusion will not let AntiChristian or Vanessa7 or LegalWolf or Lukuluku69 explain whether this is figurative, literal or allegorical.

How does this make sense to anyone?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 1:51pm On Sep 15, 2023
Benefits of Drinking the Blessed Urine of our Holy Prophet Mohammed

You got me rightly o: this is not my words, this is what Muslims teach themselves when they are in their mosques. The above is found in the islamic website Posted by IslamicVirtues in Islamic Medicine
https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/02/benefits-of-drinking-the-blessed-urine-of-our-holy-prophet-s/

BENEFITS OF DRINKING THE URINE OF PROPHET MOHAMMED
1. Guaranteed Entrance to Paradise:
Take for example the case where a companion of the Prophet drinks his blessed urine, only to discover that she has now been shielded completely from the fire of Hell!

Imam Suyyuti narrates an authentic report in his al-Khasaa’is al-Kubra, vol. 2, page 253 (published by Daar al-Kutub al-Arabiy — some other online editions have this narration in vol. 2, page 441):
And Tabarani and Bayhaqi narrated with an authentic chain of transmission from Hukaymah daughter of Umaymah from her mother (Umaymah) who said, the Prophet (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) had a wooden bowl in which He used to urinate which was placed under his bed. One night he searched for it but did not find it and asked for it saying, “Where is the bowl?” The members of the house replied “Barrah, the slave girl of Umm Salamah, drank it.” (Barrah had come with Umm Salamah from Habashah with her.)
The Prophet (S) replied, “Surely she has protected herself from the fire with a great wall!”


2. The Urine of Prophet Mohammed in Well water makes the water taste sweet and cool
Imam Abu Nu’aym narrates the practice of Anas RA, with his chain, who said: ‘The Messenger of Allah used to pray salah at his house and made it long. Once, He (Mohammed SAW) urinated in the well, which was situated inside the house. Anas said: ‘there was no well in Madinah which tasted more cool and sweet than it’. He said: ‘when the sahabah come to my house I serve them with the sweet water of that well. In the era of jahiliyyah it was known as al-Barud, ‘the cool well’’’.
http://scholarspen..ca/2005/05/prophets-urine_10.html

3. Mohammed's Urine is the water of paradise
To conclude, I’ll leave you with this statement from the scholar, mystic and exegete, Isma’eel Haqqi al-Barusi who says in His exegesis of the Qur’an titled ‘Rooh al-Bayan’: “His noble hair is from the vegetation of Paradise, his saliva is from the honey of Paradise, and His urine, as some of our wise men say, is the water of Paradise.”
http://scholarspen..ca/2005/05/prophets-urine_10.html

4. Mohammeds Urine is a cure for Stomach Pains
Imam Suyuti’s narrations
Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Abu Ya’la, Hakim, Dar Qutni, Tabarani and Abu Nu’aym from Umm Ayman May Allah be pleased with her, who said, ‘the Prophet got up one night and urinated in a bowl. During that night, I rose in the state of thirst so I drank whatever was in the bowl. In the morning I told Him what I had done to which He smiled and said, ‘surely you will never have pain in your stomach’’. Abu Ya’ala’s wordings are as follows, ‘you will never feel stomach pain as of today’.


NOTE:
Details of All these Hadiths can be found in the Islamic website: IslamiEducation
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/



Questions:
1. Since Mohammeds Urine can guarantee paradise for Muslims, where can Muslims get a few drops
2. Are you looking forward to drinking the Urine of Prophet Mohammed in Paradise?
3. Is this act of drinking Human Urine not an act of worship of Mohammed?
4. Is it true that Prophets Mohammed's urine can cure diseases?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 1:49pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Now I didn't translate. Remember my translations cannot be trusted



How can a book confirm itself?
Escapist technique!

Your Islamic scholars translation (those who translate your Qur'an)cannot be trusted.!

Answer my question :

Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 1:26pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Define what an Ayah is first?
Maybe then you will understand my question
Surah= Chapter
Ayah= verses


Yes , Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in part

Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3?
Christianity Etc › Re: Another Lie Of Islam: Mohammed Sold To Muslims As An Illiterate by TenQ(op): 1:24pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Your fear of the truth?
Does the court of law always do justice?
You have checked the meanings of كتب I know but you will not admit.
Does his asking for a pen and paper definitely mean he himself was going to write?
Didn't uneducated forefathers who knew not how to read or write ask for and purchase this for their words who were learning or could read or write?

Ogbeni your premise on this argument is wrong.
Please for the last time on this. I Your queries could be channelled as you answer the question

In the court of law, falsehood is determined through questioning

1. Does it make sense to give pen and paper to an illiterate!?
2. What would be the purpose?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 1:21pm On Sep 15, 2023
FxMasterz:
Antichristian, abeg, no hoard the urine o. Please share for all the Muslim ummah to drink. E fit cure all their diseases self. Why hoard such a good thing? If you have this urine, kindly share. Paradise would be very sweet because Mohammed's urine is the river of paradise. Hahahaha.
See As all of them are forming gentle and shy!

They are all tongue tied now. I This is what they teach themselves in in their Qur'anic schools and mosques.

Religion of Lies and Deceit!
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 1:17pm On Sep 15, 2023
Jokerman:
What tha grin
The thing shock me too o!
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:52pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
You are extremely wrong.

Amuse yourself.

https://njjewishnews.timesofisrael.com/how-a-biblical-mistranslation-led-to-anti-semitism/
Is this the answer to
Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:51pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Now I didn't translate. Remember my translations cannot be trusted



How can a book confirm itself?
I have given you the phrase to interpret. What is difficult with that?
Your Islamic translations are at best ficticious!

Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:50pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
You are unable to understand. Did Allah reveal ayahs in parts or Surahs in parts?
Can you not see reason why that is?
Yes, Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in part

Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3?
Christianity Etc › Re: Another Lie Of Islam: Mohammed Sold To Muslims As An Illiterate by TenQ(op): 12:13pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Take what is written in Arabic of www.sunah.com, does it give you what is written in English?

Does كتب also mean prescribe?

Produce more sayings of the prophet writing and not those that are conveniently close to when he passed.
In the court of law, falsehood is determined through questioning

1. Does it make sense to give pen and paper to an illiterate!?
2. What would be the purpose?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:07pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
The only person twisting here is you. Presenting part and hiding the rest. Reminiscent of some kind of people.
Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:06pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Are your faith members wrong in this translation?
They were quoting your erroneous translations! Most times, but I quote your translations except when I want to feel cus on your erroneous translation!

Why is it difficult to Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:04pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Are these part of a verse or the whole verse?







Verses of the Quran are read, understood and translated within their contexts or columns and according to the grammatical progression of their speech, and in accordance with the grammatical formation of their words.

Not your mischief intended Tafseer-e-ayaat of word to word translation.
Sorry Sir

You can see how Muslims twists the word of Allah to say what their Scholars want it to say.


Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:02pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
By your submissions the translation in this image is wrong?

When did you become an expert of Arabic and translations to other languages?
The words in the Qur'an is Very wrong. If not

Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 12:00pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Your word choice of conjecture points at a fact you terribly dislike to hear. One day either in this life or after you will know by the will of the almighty.
I pity you sir.

If you don't repent, I you will open your eyes in death realising that the Deciever has decieved you.

You will wonder why you stobornly chose Mohammed rather than the Messiah. Of course, I have tried to make you see reason: unfortunately, I the demon of Islam has imprisoned your soul.

Why did the Messiah come?
Why would you reject His message?


Unless a man is Born Again, he cannot enter Paradise!

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