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Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 9:47am On Sep 18, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Now I grow concerns about you. You post and highlight from my previous post yet you still ask? Is it that you don't understand?

Does Bukhari have Kab al Ahbar in the sanad of Hadith he collected and compiled?
Now you claim some clairvoyance to read my mind? Wrong again.

If talk is as cheap as you say are all your sayings too cheap or you exclude yourself from this?

Take some more time but not all the time and tell what impact Kab al Ahbar has on hadith and perhaps the truth you claim to uphold in hadith.
You tell me?
Kab al Ahbar fabricated hadiths!
Show us his hadiths?
Now you are asking:
Does Bukhari have Kab al Ahbar in the sanad of Hadith he collected and compiled?


It all means that your insinuations were completely baseless, I otherwise

Can you please answer these five short questions?

1. Quote me just two hadiths narrated by Kab al Ahbar in Al-Bukhari and two from Al-Muslim?

2. What is the relationship of Kab al Ahbar to prophet Muhammad that warranted him being believed by collectors like Muslim and Bukhari?

3. What are the Evidences that Kab al Ahbar died as a Jew or Christian?

4. When was Kab al Ahbar born and when did he become a Muslim?

5. There had been thousands of Arab Muslims who were companions of your prophet, who related your hadiths. Yet just one or two Jewish converts to Islam (probably during the time of Abu Bakr) infiltrated Islam and out of almost 300,000 hadiths, they composed more than 90% of fake, Daif and half truth hadiths AND the other Muslims especially people like Bukhari, Muslim etc were oblivious of him?


Please number your response for each question you are responding to!
Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 9:14am On Sep 18, 2023
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That is not how this works. You cannot have me first answer to benchmark what you may or may not know. Hadith's collected in Bukhari and Muslim are not all that are classified as Sahih or are they?

You have quoted Imam Al-Suyuti and Musnad Ahmad as proof in your posts? Are you saying these are less reliable than Buhari and Muslim you have chosen?

You make bold to say 90% of hadith are fake? You limit this claim to 300,000 hadith when Bukhari alone collected 600,000 hadith. These are not adding up? What's going on?
I can read you like a book without fail.

Talk is cheap sir!

Your insinuation was not about Al-Suyuti or Musnad Ahmad, Tabari but about hadiths in general.
Here was your post

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Kab al Ahbar is the person who had been instrumental in interpolating the greatest number of Jewish anecdotes and parables into Islam. He is said to have converted to Islam either during Abu Bakr's era or Omar's. His love of Jewish legends and interminable stories had put him in the focus of his time. In one of the hadiths, it is said: “There is no harm in transmitting hadiths from Judaic lore.” It was Abdullah bin Amr who reportedly transmitted this hadith. Tirmizi, Abu Davud and Bukhari also mentioned this hadith. As we shall be seeing presently, Abdullah b. Amr was among the novices of Kab al Ahbar. Those who fabricated this hadith prior to the other unfounded hadiths used it as a basis for their new fabrications. Kab al Ahbar was a pioneer in this. Not only did he transmit hadiths, but also gave instructions to Abu Hurayra, as we have already examined, as well as Abdullah b. Amr, Ibn Omar and Ibn Abbas. Thus he benefited from these people when spreading his interpolations.

Do inform if it is lie that Kab al Ahbar is a jew and forerunner in your lifetime habit of rejecting God.
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Did you or did you not mention Bukhari?


Please answer my questions or have a good day.



However and on a serious note since you don't want to answer my previous questions. Can you please answer these five short questions?

1. Quote me just two hadiths narrated by Kab al Ahbar in Al-Bukhari and two from Al-Muslim?

2. What is the relationship of Kab al Ahbar to prophet Muhammad that warranted him being believed by collectors like Muslim and Bukhari?

3. What are the Evidences that Kab al Ahbar died as a Jew or Christian?

4. When was Kab al Ahbar born and when did he become a Muslim?

5. There had been thousands of Arab Muslims who were companions of your prophet, who related your hadiths. Yet just one or two Jewish converts to Islam (probably during the time of Abu Bakr) infiltrated Islam and out of almost 300,000 hadiths, they composed more than 90% of fake, Daif and half truth hadiths AND the other Muslims especially people like Bukhari, Muslim etc were oblivious of him?


Please number your response for each question you are responding to!
Christianity Etc › Re: Evangelist Or Fossilise by TenQ: 8:32am On Sep 18, 2023
Btruth:
Evangelise or fossilise (1)

Mon, 18 Sep 2023

‘You shall be witnesses to Me...’ Acts 1:8

Jesus is the captain of our salvation. ‘For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.’ (Hebrews 2:10 KJV). And before He went back to heaven, He gave us the game plan: ‘You shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth’ (Acts 1:8 NKJV). And since a person’s last words are some of their most important ones, it leads us to ask this: Who was Jesus talking to? You! ‘You shall be witnesses to Me...’ (Acts 1:8 NKJV).

There are people around today who will never go to church. Their only chance of hearing the gospel is through you; through what your lips declare and your life demonstrates. What is this ‘power’ Jesus spoke of? The Greek word for ‘power’ is dynamos, from which we get the word dynamite. Dynamite is an explosive force which, when properly harnessed, can remove any obstacle that stands in the way of progress. You say, ‘I have never been to Bible college, and I don’t feel qualified to share the gospel!’ God doesn’t call the qualified; He qualifies the called by filling them with His Spirit and using them to reach a hurting world. Today you have been called to do that.
Thanks bro for a timely reminder!

Christianity in Europe is almost dead because they refused to Teach, Disciple and Evangelise!

Africa will follow suit if we do not do the needful!
Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 8:06am On Sep 18, 2023
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Oh! You know this much and are pretending?

Tell us more? Are you not going in similar fashion for those who are oblivious translating Quran out of context, mistranslating or double translating within a verse?

You say you know this much and fail to say? Is it not that you doubt what you know or still know too little? Is this all you can say in 24hrs?
You can't force me to say I know a person or persons who I've never even heard of their name. So, you can have it your way with whatever you think about me.


However and on a serious note since you don't want to answer my previous questions. Can you please answer these five short questions?

1. Quote me just two hadiths narrated by Kab al Ahbar in Al-Bukhari and two from Al-Muslim?

2. What is the relationship of Kab al Ahbar to prophet Muhammad that warranted him being believed by collectors like Muslim and Bukhari?

3. What are the Evidences that Kab al Ahbar died as a Jew or Christian?

4. When was Kab al Ahbar born and when did he become a Muslim?

5. There had been thousands of Arab Muslims who were companions of your prophet, who related your hadiths. Yet just one or two Jewish converts to Islam (probably during the time of Abu Bakr) infiltrated Islam and out of almost 300,000 hadiths, they composed more than 90% of fake, Daif and half truth hadiths AND the other Muslims especially people like Bukhari, Muslim etc were oblivious of him?


Please number your response for each question you are responding to!
Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 4:09am On Sep 18, 2023
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Why are you trying to divert?
You know the companions (may Allah be pleased with them) of Muhammad pbuh?

You know Umar r.a? You know of his trip to Jerusalem but don't know he had a companion said to have predicted his death?

This same person vigorously supported Uthman r.a.

You feign ignorance and/or pretend you cannot do research?

If you cannot do this simple task how then did you arrive at the volume of information you claim to have against Islam, Muhammad pbuh and Allah?

I am not getting distracted from the subject of the thread by your bids to divert. Let's focus please. When this is addressed we can move on to your concerns. 😐
Me!?
Divert!?
Not possible!

1. You see me as the enemy of Allah and Islam, can so I ask:

You believe in the Destiny of Allah
1. Can you explain how Allah has destined me to do what I am doing on Nairaland?
2. If I am doing the will of Allah, the how do you come to accuse me of wrong/error?


2. You in avoiding my question, what gave criteria that makes you a Muslim, so I ask:

What makes you different from satan?
He also testifies and believe that there is no god but Allah.
Satan also know that there is heaven and hell,
He believes in his prophets and what they were sent with,
Satan know the angels that are not seen by humans, and totally believe the book he sent Muhammad pbuh with as he inspired a chunk of it: called the Quran.


What makes you different from satan?


3. Your argument is so lame. There had been thousands of Arab Muslims who were companions of your prophet, I who related your hadiths. Yet just one or two Jewish converts to Islam (probably during the time of Abu Bakr) infiltrated Islam and out of almost 300,000 hadiths, they composed more than 90% of fake, Daif and half truth hadiths AND the other Muslims especially people like Bukhari, Muslim etc were oblivious of him?

He even taught Abu Hurayra and Ibn Abbas!? Are these dummies?

Please find another excuse for your failures!
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 3:54am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
They would say otherwise for you: your view isn't biblical. And they would quote the same bible to back their actions
Since you seem to know what they would say, why not just give us some firm examples of commands in the Bible or examples of practice by the Apostles or Disciples of Christ?
Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 10:15pm On Sep 17, 2023
You did not answer my question sir
You believe in the Destiny of Allah
1. Can you explain how Allah has destined me to do what I am doing on Nairaland?
2. If I am doing the will of Allah, the how do you come to accuse me of wrong/error?


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I testify and believe that there is no god but Allah.
I believe in the unseen and see some of his signs, I believe in heaven and hell, his prophets and what they were sent with, angels that are not seen, and totally believe the book he sent Muhammad pbuh with. This is the Quran.
What makes you different from satan?
He also testifies and believe that there is no god but Allah.
Satan also know that there is heaven and hell,
He believes in his prophets and what they were sent with,
Satan know the angels that are not seen by humans, and totally believe the book he sent Muhammad pbuh with as he inspired a chunk of it: called the Quran.

What makes you different from satan?
Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 9:20pm On Sep 17, 2023
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Not surprised.
Are Bukhari, Muslim, Musnad ibn Ahmad, Tabari, Jalalyn companions of Muhammad pbuh?

You often refer to their quotations and writings or you have promoted them to companions?
I know Mohammed and follow what his companions wrote reported about him.

I think this is better put.
LOL!

The Hadiths are your religious books not mine. How you came about them is not my business. Your scholars even tried to filter off the lies and we are still left with much more things you Muslims are finding difficult to trust


You believe in the Destiny of Allah
1. Can you explain how Allah has destined me to do what I am doing on Nairaland?
2. If I am doing the will of Allah, the how do you come to accuse me of wrong/error?
Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 7:51pm On Sep 17, 2023
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A little of Kab al Ahbar also known as Abū Isḥāq Kaʿb ibn Maniʿ al-Ḥimyarī is in the first post. I am surprised that with your 'vast knowledge of Islam' you don't know him.

You definitely know Abū Isḥāq Kaʿb ibn Maniʿ al-Ḥimyarī? You are able to do research aren't you? Please explore.


And with Him (are the) keys (of) the unseen, no (one) knows them except Him. And He knows what (is) in the land and the sea. And not falls any leaf but He knows it. And not a grain in the darkness[es] (of) the earth and not moist and not dry but (is) in a Record Clear.(Q6:59)

And (for) every man We have fastened to him his fate in his neck, and We will bring forth for him (on the) Day (of) the Resurrection a record which he will find wide open.(Q17:13)


Blessed be He in Whose hands is Dominion; and He over all things hath Power; He Who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed: and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving. (Q67:1-2).

He’s All-Wise, and He tests us according to our strength: “God does not burden any soul with more than it can bear: each gains whatever good it has done, and suffers its bad.” (Q2:286)

No kind of calamity occurs except by Allah’s permission. Whoever believes in Allah, He will guide his heart. Allah knows all things.” (Q64:11







You are just seeing the name Kab al Ahbar but rely on hadiths so strongly without knowing of his existence in the chain of narration?
How do you ascertain the trustworthiness of the hadiths you share?
By someone just saying so?
You said:
You definitely know Abū Isḥāq Kaʿb ibn Maniʿ al-Ḥimyarī?

But I don't.
I know Mohammed and follow what his companions wrote of him.
I don't care about anyone else except it has something to do with prophet Mohammed.

I only rely on your sources as Evidences to expose the fraud in your Islamic narratives.

About chain of narration of hadiths,
It is your problem not mine. You have a compilation of untrustworthy collections of your prophet by pious Muslims that even you Muslims find it hard to trust. I How can that be my problem?

Finally,
I asked you some basic questions

You believe in the Destiny of Allah isn't it?
1. Can you explain how Allah has destined me to do what I am doing on Nairaland?
2. If I am doing the will of Allah, the how do you come to accuse me of wrong/error?


Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith by TenQ: 6:56pm On Sep 17, 2023
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Kab al Ahbar is the person who had been instrumental in interpolating the greatest number of Jewish anecdotes and parables into Islam. He is said to have converted to Islam either during Abu Bakr's era or Omar's. His love of Jewish legends and interminable stories had put him in the focus of his time. In one of the hadiths, it is said: “There is no harm in transmitting hadiths from Judaic lore.” It was Abdullah bin Amr who reportedly transmitted this hadith. Tirmizi, Abu Davud and Bukhari also mentioned this hadith. As we shall be seeing presently, Abdullah b. Amr was among the novices of Kab al Ahbar. Those who fabricated this hadith prior to the other unfounded hadiths used it as a basis for their new fabrications. Kab al Ahbar was a pioneer in this. Not only did he transmit hadiths, but also gave instructions to Abu Hurayra, as we have already examined, as well as Abdullah b. Amr, Ibn Omar and Ibn Abbas. Thus he benefited from these people when spreading his interpolations.

Do inform if it is lie that Kab al Ahbar is a jew and forerunner in your lifetime habit of rejecting God.

Is this fulfilment of God's word in your Bible?

Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. (Deuteronomy 28:18).

You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out” (Deuteronomy 28:19).

Or is it the case of the Jews cursed because they killed Christ and asked for “His blood to be on us,” according to Matthew 27:25?




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Mallam Explore2xmore,
Who is Kab al Ahbar?

This is the first time I am hearing of his name and does he have a website that I follow as I am not understanding!


I can speak for myself bro!
Let me ask you a question.

You believe in the Destiny of Allah isn't it?
1. Can you explain how Allah has destined me to do what I am doing on Nairaland?
2. If I am doing the will of Allah, the how do you come to accuse me of wrong/error?

Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 6:48pm On Sep 17, 2023
Gagare1:
I have one of David Wood's videos about Muhammad prescribing camel using for stomach ache. I never knew he approved his own urine for healing purposes. So he was that endowed, yet was poisoned by a woman?
Why didn't he just drink his urine as a cure?

God PLEASE, help my tribesmen to see what they are into. 95% of my tribesmen are Muslims.
Mohammed is the greatest 419 in world history. He created a system of self enrichment and empowerment using religion as a tool. The only so called prophet given licence to commit sin and whose God authorised prostitution.
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 12:08pm On Sep 17, 2023
Gagare1:
What did I just read?
Muslims find it embarrassing for such to be said in public spaces unfortunately, I they cannot deny it!
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 12:06pm On Sep 17, 2023
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Did you or did you not cherry pick Bukhari 7410 on one of your crazy posts?
Who is cherry picking other than you?
Which hadith have I put up except the one wherein the hadith author refers to the invalidity of statements outside the Quran?
It's the same way, I I cannot cherry-pick on any verse of the Bible whether I like it or not. You are very free to cherry-pick on Bible verses for me, it is allowed


I can cherry-pick on any hadith or Tafsir or Qur'an sir because Islam is not my religion. You cannot cherry-pick on the Qur'an not the Hadiths nor your Tafsirs because they are your religious books.
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 11:57am On Sep 17, 2023
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Tenq and propensity to lies! Where in the Quran is the verse on your satan inspired topic?
The quran didn't teach directly about Mohammed's urine. And I did not quote any Qur'an that said anything about his urine. I teach from the Qur'an and Hadiths of Muslims on the Efficacy of the blessed Urine of the Holy prophet Muhammad.

Is Mohammed not a partner of Allah (even if you deny)? Your obedience is both to Allah and Mohammed!

Qur'an 24: 54
Say: “Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance.

Qur'an 4:13
And whoever obeys Allâh and His Messenger, Allâh shall admit him in the Gardens underneath which rivers flow.

Qur'an 33:71
And whoever obeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has won a great success.
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 9:18am On Sep 17, 2023
correctguy101:
Depends.

How would I know how it relates to doing what someone the scriptures requested you respect tells you to do? We see it as dirty and stoopid...but...

The members didn't find it despicable though, maybe sane people already left when the suggestion was brought up by their MoG.

Do you recall the case of two mothers who sat and reasoned to boil and eat their children in your scriptures? Well, I find that despicable too.
The opposite of humility is PRIDE!

The fact that some people make merchandise of the Christian faith doesn't have have to do with what the Bible teaches.

After all, I we don't stop spending money because 419 people defraud people with money.
We don't stop using knives because some people have used it in the past to commit murder.

There is no where such despicable things are taught in the Bible or any Christian tradition.

I have presented to you teachings from the Qur'an and Hadiths of Muslims on the Efficacy of the blessed Urine of the Holy prophet Muhammad
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 9:11am On Sep 17, 2023
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How does the website relate to Allah and Muhammad pbuh?

Present your reasons along what your inserted web posts says.
The question is can't argue better than Muslim scholars who align with my position.

Therefore, the link below suffices.

The Islamic website
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/


The reasons and proof they gave is okay except you want to prove them wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 9:05am On Sep 17, 2023
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Do you not quote Bukhari?
Your following question does not answer what Bukhari has compiled regarding things other than the Quran.
I asked you this question is to prevent you from later cherry-picking on what to take from Bukhari.

If you want me to trust the claim of Bukhari, I would you also trust the judgment of him?

Do you trust and believe Bukhari?
Is Bukhari now a prophet of Islam?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op):
[quote author=Explore2xmore post=125841181][/quote]I didn't abuse prophet Mohammed, and my objective was to show that Allah is an Alter Personality of Mohammed.

And there several reasons for it. Some of the characteristics of Alter personality is presented in the medical link I presented.

Mohammed seems to be able to make Allah say what he wants.



I honestly do not intend to abuse or insult Mohammed! I only stated what I believe about him
Events › Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 8:32am On Sep 17, 2023
Iseoluwani:
rule one
is it in the biblehuh

in biblical hermeneutics there is what we call rule of first mention
Is "traditional wedding" in the Bible?
Did the Bible give rules of performing traditional weddings?

Is a civil wedding unbiblical?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 8:26am On Sep 17, 2023
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Does it say this hadith is recorded in Muslim and Bukhari? It talks about the requisites of Bukhari how come it's not in Bukhari itself.

Bukhari too has quotations stating what is to be believed/followed is the Quran.

Good intentions indeed. Who encouraged them to? If these were solely good how come it's reported Muhammad pbuh rejected its collection?

Don't many people hide so much evil behind a presented good intention? What is the greek gift?
The evidence from
The Islamic website
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/

seem much stronger sir.
Read it.
it says

Incident One. The Narration of Umaymah bint Ruqayqah about Barrah the slave girl of Umm Salamah, who drank from His Urine, is authentic.

Incident Two. The Narration of Umaymah bint Ruqayqah about Barakah the slave girl of Umm Habeebah (she is other than Umm Ayman who was also known as Barakah) is also authentic.



Are they telling lies?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 8:21am On Sep 17, 2023
correctguy101:
Oh,

This daddy thought the pastor used King Nebuchadnezzar's humiliation in the bible as a base to preach humility to the eediots in his church. Hence the stoopid actions of his sheeples as they'd probably believe it's the Most High humbling them.

And how about the HighPriest Adeboye and his old mess and yaansh sweat stained chair being bowed to? After all, your scriptures admonished respect for those taking the lead among you.

And don't tell me bowing to the man or his chair is not a show of respect for in truth (not necessarily worship. Sophistry at it's best though), it really is. So all in all, the old HighPriest is justified...

Even this daddy do laff tire as I dey type, many funny things I recall that's justifiable in your scriptures. Na laziness no go gree me start to list them. But the number of different denominations using the same scriptures should tell you something ... grin

You believers will never stop to amaze me.
So teaching humility is not a virtue?

How does it relate to doing despicable things like eating raw meat or grass?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 8:20am On Sep 17, 2023
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What does Buhari say about what is not in the Quran?
Do answer this question.
Do you trust and believe Bukhari?
Is Bukhari now a prophet of Islam?
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 8:15am On Sep 17, 2023
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True to your self you now move directly into abuse.
Obviously birds of a feather flock together. Lieing TENQ associates with his type
Where did I abuse you or Mohammed? I didn't o!

Was it true that Mohammed was under the influence of satan for almost one year?

Was it true that he hears the bell ringing when receiving the Qur'an (unfortunately, I the bell is an instrument of satan)
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 8:06am On Sep 17, 2023
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Was the Quran written in Muhammad's time? It was written but not all compiled into a book and this simply is due to the resources available. It however was written on even bone parts.
Be consistent sir.

If the Qur'an was written, where was the book and why did it need collection from even the breast of men (memory).

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What is Tafsir?

Many Muslims in the early period sought to explain the Qurʾān on the basis of pure personal speculation, known as tafsīr bil-raʾy, and such interpretation, though generally disapproved, has persisted down to the present time.
Your Tafsirs are simply the commentaries to the Qur'an from your scholars.

But you also know that Muslims cannot interpret the Qur'an as they understand it. Their understanding must be in agreement with the scholars of Islam and the Sunnah!

Ibn Abbas for instance is expected to know and understand the Qur'an far better than Mohammed Deedat, Zakir Naik, Albania etc.
How can one compare the best of the modern day Muslims with Abu Hanifa, Malik, al-Shafi or Ibn Hanbal?

This is why you Muslims must take their explanation of the Qur'an.
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:57am On Sep 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
This is rich coming from a religion whose adherents drink water from washed pastors feet and effluent seeping from dirty statues
Well, that’s pastors who do despicable and horrible things in the name of God in their churches can not claim to have their backing from the Bible or even church traditions.

Unlike this sir!
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:54am On Sep 17, 2023
correctguy101:
And here we thought we've heard strange things..

Abeg make una continue una nonsense, after all some pastor made people eat raw dog meat while drinking it's blood. Some even mowed the church garden with their mouth, eating grass like cattle.

I don't blame Atheists for labelling you guys buffoons, na una dey cause am.

If I were told this monster nonsense and anyone claims it's from God, I could bash that person head in o...


Why you no drink my own piss?

Awon oniranu....
Pastors who made their members do silly despicable things cannot justify their actions from either the Bible nor any other religious Christian books.

However, this is from the religious books of Muslims
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:50am On Sep 17, 2023
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Why the emboldened?
Because it seems a good explanation for the observables based on what Muslims themselves say about their prophet
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:49am On Sep 17, 2023
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And what does Buhari have recorded regarding what us not in the Quran?

Were Hadith collected during the time of the four rightly guided Caliphs?
Are the hadiths collection of Falsehoods?

Even your Tafsirs were not compiled at the time of Mohammed.

Even the Qur'an itself was not collected at the time of Mohammed!
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:15am On Sep 17, 2023
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Again you rush to hadith. What did the Quran itself say? Did Muhammad pbuh say or is it stated in the Quran that he is Allah's alter personality or equal?

Why are you bent on creating what isn't? It seems you have nothing more rewarding to do with yourself?
Why do I go to your hadiths!?
1. The Qur'an is not complete without the hadiths and the Tafsirs and the Sunnah
2. The hadiths are your religious books: it is almost impossible for a Muslim cleric to preach without quoting an hadith.
3. The hadith gives us history and contexts of the early Companion's relationship with Mohammed.

or
How did we know anything about Waraqa, Khadijah or how Jibril came to Mohammed?
Are these in the Qur'an?


The problem is that you Muslims cherry pick on your hadiths. The ones you like is Sahih Muslim and the ones you are not comfortable with is Daif!
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 7:09am On Sep 17, 2023
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And you believe hadith that is not guaranteed or because it suits your delusion.

Does this same hadith collection not say:

...we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an. The only understanding He gives man is in His book and what is written in this paper... (Buhari 6903)

...What is people who stipulate conditions that are not in the Book of God? If he stipulates a condition that is not in the Book of God, it is invalid, even if he stipulates a hundred conditions. “God’s condition is more deserving and more reliable... (Buhari 2155)




You too should read:

https://quranandbibleblog.com/2019/06/12/hadith-database-hadith-on-the-prophets-urine/
I have read your website link. I It is saying that the hadith is weak because
The hadith wasn't recorded in either Muslim not Bukhari

The Islamic website
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/

Says quite the opposite sir.

1. Unfortunately, do you agree with All hadiths by Muslim and Bukhari?
If not, the argument of the hadith not in these books is weak!
2. Muslims with good intentions (not Jews nor Christians nor Atheists) wrote the hadith neither are they the promoters of the hadiths
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 6:59am On Sep 17, 2023
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In 4:64 you see ask Allah's forgiveness how then is it Muhammad pbuh that forgives.

Your tendency to lie even has you fabricating an imposibilty Bible 46:31 is this how Biblical verses are written?

Indeed you are a time waster!

Your literal translation in Quran 46:31 and previously Quran 9:31 is simply a case of

They (YOU) seek to deceive Allah and the believers, yet they only deceive themselves, but they fail to perceive it.
It seems Allah is the alter personality of Mohammed.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9792-dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder


Aisha even notice this such that she said :
Sahih Muslim 1464 a
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: I felt jealous of the women who offered themselves to Allah's Messenger and said: Then when Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this:" You may defer any one of them you wish, and take to yourself any you wish; and if you desire any you have set aside (no sin is chargeable to you)" (xxxiii. 51), I ('A'isha.) said: It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire.


Aisha was just saying that it seems Allah's main responsibility was to serve Mohammed.

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