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RoyalDiadems:
I love the land question you used to counter the Muslim.

Muslims don't only believe the lies. They're enslaved by it.

They are trying every lie within the book to say that I mistranslated

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Mohammed forgives sin making him a partner with Allah!

joewychampion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvpX8T8CIbY
What is the Origin of Church weddings? what are the reasons behind church weddings? what Bible passage supports church weddings? does church weddings guarantee a successful and happy marriage?

Every kind of wedding is biblical except it is a joke wedding.

A Christian can choose to get married
1. In the Church
2. In the Registry
3. Traditionally
As long as it is not in the name of any idol and is their chosen Final wedding rite.

Even though no Christian will marry under the God of Islam (Allah), God recognises marriages done by Muslims in their mosques


God respect every marrige ordinance of Man.


Fornication is when people who have not concluded the Final Wedding Rites begin to have sex with each other.

RoyalDiadems:
Where are these ignorant and pompous Islamists?

When are you going to answer these questions? Is it only the sword that you can use to defend your god?

I spoke to a Muslim yesterday: he said that "Muslims don't ask questions about the Quran so that they would not fall into shirk!"

I said to him:
What if you want to purchase a land and the condition by the seller is that you don't ask questions about it, would you still purchase the land or assume it is fraudulent?

Islam is programmed to defend itself and Mohammed with lies unfortunately, these lies are believed by Muslims.
They get angry when you prove that their preferred narrative is based on fraud!

Raheeqilmaktoom:
No one who knows a thing about Islam will honor the guy with response.

I engaged him once, he ran away and locked down the thread. I doubt if the guy looks at the crap he copies and paste with 2 eyes.

Just engage him away from the topic and he will vanish.

I challenge you to your face you shameless liar
1. Show me the link of the thread where you engaged me AND I ran away!
2. Show me the link of the thread where I locked down my thread (because of you)
3. Show me the website or places where you think I do copy-paste my threads on Nairaland..


You are a Shameless liar if you can't prove your claims above!



Now, I ask you too
1. Look at the verse below and tell me that my translation was wrong

Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

2. If you think my translation is wrong, please translate the Arabic sentence below as correctly as you can

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَا، أَجِيبُوا بُولَ وَءَامِنُوا بِهِۦ ۖ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"

Let's see who will run away!

Cc: gaskiyamagana

The Questions are not yet answered o!

Questions:
1. If Mohammed can forgive sins of both Man and Jinn, is he not a partner with Allah?

2. If Mohammed can choose who to admit or not admit in paradise, is he not a partner with Allah?

3. Is it possible to recite the Shahada without associating Allah with Mohammed?







1. Mohammed Forgives the Sins of Muslims


When you ask Muslims the question :
Who has the power to forgive sin, they would say "it's only Allah!".

But today, I will show you that
It is either that
1. Mohammed is the same as Allah
2. Mohammed is a partner with Allah
3. Mohammed has the power of Allah to forgive sin

Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Let me walk us through this verse
1. Who is speaking?
Answer: Allah!
2. Who is the Subject?
Answer: Mohammed!
3. What were Allah's instructions?
Answer: Muslims should respond to Mohammed, Allah's Messenger
4. Why should Mohammed be obeyed According the Allah?
Answer :
a. Mohammed will forgive Muslims (and Jinn) of their sins
b. Mohammed will guard Muslims from a painful doom (probably hell fire or Allah's judgment)


2. Mohammed is one who admits Muslims into paradise
One would think that it is Allah that should admit people into paradise but no, it is Mohammed.

Sahih al-Bukhari 7410
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will gather the believers on the Day of Resurrection in the same way (as they are gathered in this life), and they will say, 'Let us ask someone to intercede for us with our Lord that He may relieve us from this place of ours.
........
Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit whom I will admit into Paradise. I will come back again, and when I see my Lord (again), I will fall down in prostration before Him, and He will leave me (in prostration) as long as He wishes, and then He will say, 'O Muhammad! Raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request);
.......
Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit to whom I will admit into Paradise. I will come back and say, 'O my Lord! None remains in Hell (Fire) but those whom Qur'an has imprisoned therein and for whom eternity in Hell (Fire) has become inevitable.' " The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "There will come out of Hell (Fire) everyone who says: 'La ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart good equal to the weight of a barley grain. Then there will come out of Hell (Fire) everyone who says: ' La ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart good equal to the weight of a wheat grain. Then there will come out of Hell (Fire) everyone who says: 'La ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart good equal to the weight of an atom (or a smallest ant).


This is repeated in the following hadiths
1. Sahih al-Bukhari 4476
2. Hadith 36, 40 Hadith Qudsi


3. A person must associate specifically Muhammad with Allah in order to become a Muslim by reciting the Shahada
The statement of the Shahada:
"There is no god but Allah AND Muhammad is his prophet".

No one can become a Muslim without Recitation of this shahada with allegiance to Mohammed.


Questions:
1. If Mohammed can forgive sins of both Man and Jinn, is he not a partner with Allah?
2. If Mohammed can choose who to admit or not admit in paradise, is he not a partner with Allah?
3. Is it possible to recite the Shahada without associating Allah with Mohammed?




Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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onumadu:
Pastor your answer is SUPERB!
Thanks!

Your answer is LOADED, and I will have to go step by step with it.

The single most important point for victims of these things to take from your answer above is THE POWER OF THE WORD OF GOD.

I'm not a young Christian, but I missed the centrality of this truth in my own search for answers to this problem.

Funnily enough, I apply this principle (using the word in warfare), but don't think much of it.

I never knew that the word is enough on its own, to defeat the powers of the enemy.

Whenever I find myself in the thick of battle, I unleash Isaiah 49:24-26

What I love most about that quote is that it addresses freeing the "lawful captive".

From your comment, and that of TenQ earlier, these things enter people's lives through one form of agreement or another: i.e lawful captivity.
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It goes like this:
Isaiah 49:24-26

24 "Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered?

25 But thus saith the Lord, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.

26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob."
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This your new information here will help A LOT of people battling this (and other similar) issue.
Thanks!

I will share my own experience next ...

Excellent.

Note:
Matthew 18:18
As a child of God, WHATEVER you say is CREATED in the heavens by FAITH!
"Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. "


The SECRET of deliverance is this:
When the Unclean Spirit has ENOUGH of PAIN and DISCOMFORT from you, they pack their things and look for somewhere else

onumadu:
Thanks for a LOADED comment.
This your comment is like an encyclopedia of its own. It contains A LOT of information.

My take away from it is your proposed METHODS OF DELIVERANCE.

I do only spiritual sanitation and self deliverance. As a matter of fact I do BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY.

I've made a comment here in Nairaland in another post about how to live a life of dominion (I can't remember the name of the thread now).

My strategy is simple: I use POWERFUL CHRISTIAN MUSICS.

From my understanding of the composition of the human body, it is mostly made of water, and water crystal can be changed using music.

So, I change my body's vibration by playing powerful Christian musics whenever I'm idle (like driving or before I fall asleep).

The result is that at all times, your body, soul and spirit is aligned with God.

Such a state makes life extremely uncomfortable for these beings, and they simply "gap" you.

I mean, which demons wants to keep hearing the word of the God every minute in music? lol
It drives them nuts, and they distance from you.

Anyway that's my own strategy.

Thanks for sharing this powerful information.

The name of the Lord Jesus is a strong tower : when the righteous hide in it, they are saved.

FxMasterz:
Lol.

They won't do the interpretation as it exposes their hypocrisy and lies!

Till another time then

honesttalk21:
I bet this is exactly how verses and phrases were/are whimsically put into the Christian scripture.

Inorder to avoid the sin of committing deliberate blasphemy the what if hypothesis is not applicable to religion

If you accuse me of mistranslating or misrepresenting the Qur'an, I give you an ordinary sentence to translate for me.

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ بَولَ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Can you please translate the above?
How is it similar or different from Qur'an 46:31?


Why is it that you are scared of translating the Arabic?

onumadu:
Someone who really knows this topic on a deeper level should please teach it here.
Should they be ignored?

My main question is this: How many spirit husbands can a woman have, and how many spirit wives can a man have?


@Mods, If this makes front page, it would help a lot.
Thanks!

1. What is called spiritual wives, spiritual husbands or spiritual spouses are just simply demons.
2. There are different kinds of demons categorised according to their specific functions, their power, how deep seated they are lodged in their host and their stubbornness.
3. The General function of every demon irrespective of their class and power is to steal, kill and destroy their hosts.
4. People do not generally get possessed by demons except when the demons are being evicted, when the demons are in full operation in the life of the person and using his full faculties. The other category is when a person deliberately in cooperation work with these demons.
5. Generally, demons prefer to be hidden. They prefer not to show that they exist so that it would never cross your mind to seek freedom from them
6. All demons are possessive and treat their hosts as their house and their mission for destruction.
7. A person who is infected with demons is said to be demonised!
8. Demons can infect a person at these four levels
a. The person's environment (recurrent problems with people, work, relationships etc)
b. The person's body (physical sickness)
c. The person's soul (character, mental and emotional sickness)
d. The person's spirit (usually as a Co-worker in evil doing)
9. Mode of infection with demons
a. Inheritance from ancestry
b. Persistent sin (Drunkeness, Masturbation, Fornication, acts leading to Addictions)
c. Deliberate or Non-deliberate invitation (drugs, occult, invitation, divination)
d. Serious sin of abomination (murder, rape, incest, crossing the line)
e. Trauma (Horror, Accident, etc)
10. Demons are spiritual equivalents of Bacteria, Virus, Fungus and disease causing microbes.
11. Demons that visit their hosts usually for sex or visit as spouses are the one's known as spiritual Husbands, spiritual wives, Incubus and Sucubus.
12. As said before all demons are possessive in nature. Even though they don't own their host but they assume ownership and territory of their host.
13. How to counter the effects of demons in a person's life?
a. Appeasement
b. Replacement
c. Eviction (Deliverance)
14. Christians only do Eviction (Deliverance) while other faiths use Appeasement or Replacement.
15. Methods of Deliverance

As a Christian :
There are three methods I know and they work best if used together
a. Spiritual Sanitation:
Some spirits leave just by you doing a thorough clean up and maintaining it consistently
b. Self Deliverance
Where you fight your own battles against her using your authority in Christ (if you are born again). You can inflict great pains on her until she breaks...of course she will try to make deals with you.
c. See a gifted Deliverance Minister (not necessarily a pastor)
The success of this depends on if you are worthy to be free or not. Let me explain:
You go to a hospital to treat dysentery while still living in filth (the dysentery can never go, you may find a little relief while you are at the hospital but a soon as you get to your natural habitat, your infection resumes)
It is not a short cut to deliverance.

Wish you the very best.

[quote author=Explore2xmore post=125646440][/quote]Why are you misrepresenting Samir as As-Samari ?

These are two completely different things!

Explore2xmore:
I don't recall any of those sentences stating that.

Your view is noted.

Can you help me translate this

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَا، أَجِيبُوا بُولَ وَءَامِنُوا بِهِۦ ۖ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"


Please do so as close to the meaning as possible

FxMasterz:
I'm waiting too.

This is epic.

Alfaa gaskiyamagana has become Taqqiyamagana and he doesn't want to answer the question as it will betray his Dishonesty of accusement .

He should show me how I have misinterpretated and misrepresented the words of Allah by just interpreting truthfully the Arabic sentence below.

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَا، أَجِيبُوا بُولَ وَءَامِنُوا بِهِۦ ۖ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"


I guess I'll have to wait till the Dajjal appear in Mecca or Medina!

Lukuluku69 and AntiChristian have run away in shame.

gaskiyamagana:
Was Allah wrong in Q3:7 about your misinterpretation and misrepresentation of His Words and Teaching for the muslims and mankind?

I am sure that you first prove that I have misinterpretated and misrepresented the words of Allah isn't it?

Translate to English :

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَا، أَجِيبُوا بُولَ وَءَامِنُوا بِهِۦ ۖ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"


Too simple isn't it?

gaskiyamagana:
" ...... those whose in their heart ( thinking and reasoning) is deviation (disease of faith) follow ( misinterpretate ) that which is not entirely clear thereof (to them) seeking (trial of confusion to confuse others) .....Q3:7.
No amount of argument, confusion and misinterpretation of any lslamic issue you pursuee, that the Q3:7 has no predicted.

One of the reasons why questions are asked in the court of law is to determine who speak truth from those manufacturing conjectures.

I asked a simple Question:

If you think I have misinterpretated the Qur'an 46:31?

Why don't you help translate this truthfully into English

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَا، أَجِيبُوا بُولَ وَءَامِنُوا بِهِۦ ۖ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"

Is this a difficult task or answering the question betrays falsehood perpetuation?

FxMasterz:
I see.

If they can't accept for Paul to forgive their sins as the verse says, why should they think the verse isn't saying the same thing about Mohammed when the name of Mohammed is again replaced with Paul's?

The verse is embarrassing to Muslims. In their translations, some of them insert

Allah will forgive you of your sins
instead of
He (Mohammed) will forgive you of your sins.

The Islamic translators who are a little truthful will translate as
He (Mohammed) will forgive you some of your sins.

There take is that only Allah can forgive every sin but Mohammed can forgive some.


I am waiting for how they will translate the verse of Bible 46:31

FxMasterz:
This is the translation I got:

"O our people, respond to the caller and believe in him; He will forgive for you your sins and protect you from a painful punishment."

This is Qur'an 46:31

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ بَولَ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ


The interpretation is
Bible 46:31
"O our people, respond to Paul and believe in him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom."

It just simply means that Paul will forgive the sins of (his people) just as Mohammed will forgive the sins of Muslims in Qur'an 46:31

Explore2xmore:
All these your sentences are in reference to human beings not Allah so it wouldn't take. When you use this name for all other than Allah it is negative.

This mean that your translation is WRONG!

You can't change the meaning of a sentence just because it refers to God.

Sentence:
God killed the babies!
mean exactly that
You don't say the killed here mean saved because it refers to God.


Al-Mutakabbir mean The Arrogant irrespective of whom it applies to!

FxMasterz:
I think legalwolf is currently busy. He comes and goes offline like that. He's fine, I believe. It is well with him.

So, there's a Quran book called 'Bible'?

I'll be looking forward to their translations. Let me first go and ask Google.

Don't minf me please.
They hate anything Paul, therefore, I replaced Allah's messanger with Paul so that they can translate to English.


Muslims and lies is 5&6!

ANTIlSLAM:
inconsequential, off point as usual

They said that I mistranslated
Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.


You should think that the normal process would be to walk me through showing where I made the blunder.


I am still waiting for them!

Explore2xmore:
As-Samiri also known as the entertainer, holds a significant place in the history of Middle Eastern entertainment. This ancient form of storytelling and performance art has been cherished for centuries. The role of ٱلسَّامِرِيُّ is to captivate audiences with his artistry, bringing joy and laughter to both young and old. Through his vivid storytelling, music, and dance, the Samiri takes audiences on an immersive cultural journey.

Unfortunately for you, even translators of your Qur'an called the As-Samari as the Samaritan!

Can you find a single English translator or your Tafsir that agree with you that the As-Samari mean Entertainer?


Allah or Mohammed made a great error sir. It is the responsibility of Muslims to cover up the errors with lies!


By the way:
Is Samir the same as As-Samari

correctguy101:
Oh ..

Sorry, I've never read any Tafsirs. Apart from the ones you just posted...

Wetin I lost to go dey find for Quran. Even Bible sef, we read like we read normal novel...

Now you think I'm Muslim, my ignorance on Islam should be glaring enough na...

But never forget. Many died a painful violent death for not believing the words of the prophet. And I just got to know (from you certainly, as I never cared to know) that the prophet too died a painful violent death, the irony of it all....

Sorry, I mistakened you for a Muslim. You know that they are of varying depth of knowledge. Whatever level they are, it is my duty to show them the way while showing them errors in their Islam.

Of course, majority of Muslims Don't even have the Qur'an in any language they can understand except Arabic.

gaskiyamagana:
As usual, as not unexpected of a person with upside-down thinking , reasoning in the interpretation of everything about Allah, Islam, Muhammad (saw), Al-Qur'an and the Muslims.
As l had said, once again, this and others of your mispresentation and misinterpretation of 'the 5' has been taken care of by ALLAH ; before maturity of semen and egg of your CARRIERS into this world , in QUR'AN 3 : 7.

If you think I have misinterpretated the Qur'an 46:31?

Why don't you help translate this truthfully into English

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَا، أَجِيبُوا بُولَ وَءَامِنُوا بِهِۦ ۖ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"

Is your translation different from my translation

Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

FxMasterz:
They twist their words aiming to help them correct their errors in hope that the hearer or reader would be dumb enough to accept their own updated version of the narrative. SMH. That's how legalwolf fought tooth and nail to find a Samaritan in the wilderness with Moses to no avail. He could nor answer simple questions but knows how to hurl the most vile insults on the persons telling him the truth.

I hope LegalWolf is okay.
It's a long time I've seen him online on Nairaland.

Muslims will tell every lie in other to correct Allah, Mohammed and Islam.


I just gave them a verse similar to Qur'an 46:31 to translate. Let's see how they would interpret it.

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ بَولَ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ


It is easy to catch liars: just give them questions with respect to their conjectures!
LOL!!

honesttalk21:
Do you now resort to force upon muslims the excesses of Christians or is it Christianity in excessive veneration of Jesus pbuh to equating him to God?

This is definitely one reason Muhammad pbuh disliked and commanded that nothing should be written about him. We have severally had discussions where it has been emphasized the challenges in translation of languages into English particularly the Sementic languages.

It is more likely a waste of my time as
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

إِنَّكَ لَا تَهۡدِي مَنۡ أَحۡبَبۡتَ وَلَٰكِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَهۡدِي مَن يَشَآءُ ۚ وَهُوَ أَعۡلَمُ بِٱلۡمُهۡتَدِينَ
"Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided."

You forget that almost two thirds of the Bible is in Hebrew (a semitic language just like Arabic) and we are able to translate without much issues from Hebrew to any other language.

Let's say this verse was found in the Arabic Bible and it reads.

Bible 46:31
"يَا قَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ بَولَ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ"وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Can you please translate the above?
How is it similar or different from Qur'an 46:31?

honesttalk21:
Do you know what a Jussive verb is? Have you considered it's use in and translations from Hebrew language?

Quran 46:31 uses the jussive verb يغفر (yaghfir) to convey a powerful message from Allah. It encourages believers to respond to the Messenger of Allah and believe in him, as Allah will forgive their sins and protect them from punishment. This verse emphasizes the importance of faith and forgiveness, highlighting the gravity of sin and the consequences it can have. It calls for believers to seek forgiveness, embrace the teachings of the Prophet, and strive for righteousness to attain divine mercy and protection from painful consequences.


Translation of the meaning of this verse and not the misleading translation of the verse is ,
"O our people, respond to the Messenger of Allah and believe in him; Allah will forgive for you your sins and protect you from a painful punishment."

The jussive form of the verb يغفر (yaghfir) indicates a command or a plea to seek forgiveness and mercy from Allah. This verse emphasizes the importance of believing in the Messenger of Allah and following his teachings, as it promises the believers that Allah will forgive their sins and shield them from punishment.

The command to respond and believe in the Messenger of Allah establishes the relationship between faith and forgiveness. Believing in the message and following the teachings of the Prophet is the path to attain Allah's forgiveness and mercy.


Allah says
Announce, (O Muhammad) to My slaves that verily I am the Forgiving, the Merciful. Q15: 49

I am Forgiving to those who repent and believe and do good, and afterward follow right guidance. Q20: 82

Moses pbuh prayed: You are our Protector: so forgive us and give us Your mercy; for you are the best of those who forgive. (7: 155)

And as you are want to get carried away remember Allah gives mankind this attribute to forgive and encourages the act.

And hasten towards forgiveness from your Lord and a Paradise as vast as the heavens and the earth, prepared for those mindful ˹of Allah˺.
˹They are˺ those who donate in prosperity and adversity, control their anger, and pardon others. And Allah loves the good-doers.
Q3:133-134

"O you who have believed, indeed, among your wives and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
(Q64:14)

"Allah witnesses that there is no deity except Him, and [so do] the angels and those of knowledge - [that He is] maintaining [creation] in justice. There is no deity except Him, the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
(Q3:18)

I certainly know what a Jussive verb is
A jussive verb is a grammatical term used to describe a verb form that expresses a command, request, suggestion, or desire . It is often used to convey the idea of urging someone to do something or giving an order.

In Qur'an 46:31, Allah is the one commanding you Muslims to obey the prophet Mohammed and Mohammed will forgive you of your sins.

Here below, you find another partnership of Mohammed with Allah. Obeying Mohammed is obeying Allah isn't it?

Qur'an 4:79-80:
We have sent you (O Mohamed) as a Messenger to mankind, and Allah’s witness suffices for this. Whoever obeys the Messenger, in fact obeys Allah, and whoever turns away from him, he (saws) will not be accountable for their deeds. Anyhow, we have not sent you (O Mohamed) to be a guardian over them.

Here you see that People were to come to Mohammed while seeking forgiveness from Allah
Qur'an 4:64
We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful.


This is clearly in the Quran in 4:64 where the Prophet Muhammad is the mediator for God's acceptance of atonement offerings and his acceptance of people's repentance.


Qur'an 7:199
Keep to forgiveness (O Muhammad), and enjoin kindness, and turn away from the ignorant.



There are clear verses where the Quran tells Muhammad to "forgive them" hold fast to forgiveness" (7:199) where the word 'afwa is used. So this means that the Prophet himself used to forgive his followers for any transgressions or sins or broken promises that they committed towards him.

No one is disputing the fact that in Islam, Allah forgives. What we are saying is that Mohammed is
1. A mediator in forgiveness and
2. Mohammed too forgives sin of Muslims.


Finally,
If the black stone can forgive the sins of Muslims, how much more the greatest prophet in the universe Mohammed!

FxMasterz:
I see.

Meaning antichristian, legalwolf, drlateef, Lukuluku69, truthday and their co-slaves know the personalities that make up the Trinity more than Allah does. Hehehe. God, Jesus and Mary? Funny!

Modern Muslims truly know more than both Mohammed and Allah.
This is why, to win an argument, they don't mind twisting both Allah's words and Mohammed's words.

correctguy101:
Kill the Jinn? Why mention the Jinn?

All the verses you quoted never mentioned hell as the doom . It all rightly calls our prophet a warner. Yes, a warner. Warner to what? A painful doom. History and real life events explains what this painful doom truly is. A painful violent death...

You quoted that Q-46:31 two sure numbers... and I believe it's clearly talking to people. Living people whom the message was meant for, unless there's a way to proselytize to jinns... And I very much doubt that there's any...

Are you saying the prophet will forgive jinns too? That verse is clearly talking to bloody civilians.

And why do you and Mr Mayn like this so-called orthodoxy definions ish so much? This ancestor was talking about what really went down and what those who didn't "listen to or believe" our prophet faced in many real life events throughout history. It's the same unforgiveness I always warn you about everytime...

There be many things that go down in reality that their orthodox definitions seems incapable of accurately explaining.

An enigma like yours truly is one of such. The words to describe this daddy, dem never still born the person wey go coin am....

No joke..

I asked you three questions

1. Why is Mohammed a Warner to the world?
Was it to prevent a painful violent death?

2a. Was this verse referring to both humans and Jinn or only humans?
b. If the verse refer to both humans and Jinn, how do you think the Jinn would be delivered from a painful death?

3. A painful violent death!?
By who?
And can Mohammed kill the Jinn?

1. Why is Mohammed a Warner to the world?
Was it to prevent a painful violent death?

You said:

Warner to what? A painful doom. History and real life events explains what this painful doom truly is. A painful violent death... cheesy

This is obviously a big LIE and you know it.

You are saying theat the purpose of Mohammed was to warn people about dying painful deaths!?
Did not Mohammed himself die a painful death?
Meaning that he's a false prophet!





2a. Was this verse referring to both humans and Jinn or only humans?
b. If the verse refer to both humans and Jinn, how do you think the Jinn would be delivered from a painful death?


It seems you've never read your Tafsirs on Qur'an 46:31. Your Tafsirs brought in the issue of the Jinn not me.

Let me give you some extracts
1. Tafsir Ibn Kathir Qur'an 46:29-32

(And (remember) when We sent towards you a group of the Jinn , to listen to the Qur'an.) "They were at a place called Nakhlah while Allah's Messenger was performing the `Isha' prayer, and (they crowded on top of each other to hear him.)....
(O our people! Respond to Allah's Caller,) This is proof that Muhammad has been sent to both the human beings and the Jinns. Thus, Allah says,
(Respond to Allah's Caller and believe in him.) Then Allah says, (He will then forgive you some of your sins,) Some scholars say that "some'' here is auxiliary, but this is questionable since it is rarely used to strengthen an affirmative meaning. Others say that it means partial forgiveness.


2. Al-Maududi Tafsir Qur'an 46.29-32
... On the way, when he halted at Nakhlah, and was reciting the Qur'an in the 'Isha' or the Fajr or the Tahajjud Prayer, a group of the jinns happened to pass by and stopped to listen to him. In this connection, all the traditions agree that on this occasion the jinns did not appear before the Holy Prophet, nor did he feel their presence, but Allah informed him afterwards by revelation that they had come and listened to the Qur'anic recitation.
... This shows that these jinns had already had faith in the Prophet Moses and in the Divine Books. After hearing the Qur'an they felt that it gave the same teachings as the former Prophets had been preaching. Therefore, they believed in this Book forthwith and also in the Holy prophet who had brought it.
Authentic traditions show that after this several deputations of the jinns visited the Holy Prophet, one after the other, and met him face to face. When all the traditions related in the collections of Hadith on this subject are read together, it appears that at least six deputations had visited him in Makkah before the Hijrah....
Many years later Ibn Mas'ud saw a group of the villagers at Kufa and said that the group of the jinns he had seen at Hajun closely resembled those people. (Ibn Jarir).
This sentence might also be a part of the saying of the jinns, or it might be an addition by Allah to their saying. In view of the context the second view seems to be more reasonable.


Since the Jinn were involved, the painful doom cannot be death but the punishment of Allah in hell except you want to be deceptive.





3. A painful violent death!?
By who?
And can Mohammed kill the Jinn?

Again, I ask you this question
Mohammed cannot kill the Jinn, can he?
Who would execute the punishment of painful death on people who didn't listen to Mohammed?

FxMasterz:
I still don't understand. I'll be looking forward to your post on the topic.

The major thrust of Islam was to create a new religion to counter Christianity especially with respect to the doctrine of Trinity.

Mohammed thought that Trinity was a coalition of
God,
Mary and
Jesus As the Trinity.


Qur'an 4:171
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, Three (Trinity) ; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs


Below is Mohammed's understanding of Trinity.

Qur'an 5:116
"And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 'O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?' He will say, 'Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.'"


Taoheed was a concept that negates the Trinity (according to the understanding of Mohammed) by saying that Allah is one and not three!

correctguy101:
You got it all wrong...

The painful doom means not hell....

It's prolly what will happen to you if you do not heed the words of the messenger. A painful violent death...

You should know what many faced for refusing to listen to or believe our prophet.... They were unlucky to not receive his forgiveness and they were ...

Well, it's all their fault, not our prophets'.. Who told them to be disobedient...

Thank you for your response

Let me prove it to you that it is not about any painful violent death.

1. Read the verses below and Let's look at the verse closely and in context.

Qur'an 25:1
"Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion [the Quran] upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a clear warner."

Qur'an 46:9
Say, “I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner.”

The question is:
Why is Mohammed a Warner to the world?
Was it to prevent a painful violent death?

2. Look at the verse Qur'an 46:31 and answer the question after it

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

a. Was this verse referring to both humans and Jinn or only humans?
b. If the verse refer to both humans and Jinn, how do you think the Jinn would be delivered from a painful death?

3. A painful violent death!?
By who?
And can Mohammed kill the Jinn?


The answer to these three questions show that Qur'an 46:31 refer to the punishment of Allah which is Hell Fire!

FxMasterz:
They hate the truth. The god of this world has blinded their minds lest the light of the gospel of Christ should shine in their hearts.

Sometimes, I just wish that God would end the world now so that the deceivers and the deceived would know their fate.

You mentioned something about Taoheed sometime ago, would you please enlighten me?

Just as we Christians have the doctrine of Trinity, Muslims have the doctrine of Taoheed.
Taoheed principally says that Allah is ONE (Oneness of Allah).

Unfortunately, even though it sounded good on paper, on scrutiny, it has its achiles heel as unknowingly to Muslims, Taoheed also sets a limitation on the power of Allah.

One of this days, I will write something about the Taoheed and it's limitations

MightySparrow:
Lielam

Islam was built on the foundation of lies and cannot survive without lies.

They can't argue that Mohammed cannot forgive sins, thus a partner with Allah

FxMasterz:
Succinctly said.

So, what problem does antichristian. lukuluku69, drlateef, legalwolf and their co-slaves have with Christians worshipping Jesus? The Messaiah is the Saviour of mankind, and no one saves but God. Besides Him there is no Saviour.

They can't argue Trinity without misrepresenting it to mean something else.

As them what the verse below truly mean and see them vomiting lies to cover up


Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Is this translation wrong?