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Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 5:59pm On Sep 06, 2023
Westerhoffe:
I know you two AntiChristian and TruthDay will avoid this thread, and I was right… they avoided it.
They can't answer it.

Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.


Let me walk us through this verse
1. Who is speaking?
Answer: Allah!
2. Who is the Subject?
Answer: Mohammed!
3. What were Allah's instructions?
Answer: Muslims should respond to Mohammed, Allah's Messenger
4. Why should Mohammed be obeyed According the Allah?
Answer :
a. Mohammed will forgive Muslims (and Jinn) of their sins
b. Mohammed will guard Muslims from a painful doom (probably hell fire or Allah's judgment)



If Mohammed can forgive the sins of Muslims, is he not a partner with Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 3:18pm On Sep 06, 2023
ItsReal:
The reason other muslims abandon you is mainly because it's a waste of time either way.

And since you don't have much knowledge outside the copy and paste you see on sites like answeringislam, you wouldn't be able to have a face to face discussion with a muslim.

To test this out, take on the challenge, if the Christians on the video were less knowledgeable, appear on the live stream to support Christianity in the right way. By the way, the whole stream is saved on youtube automatically, so it won't be deleted.


It's easy to say anything behind a phone screen , whether na lie or not, but not when you're physically infront of someone to call ur bluff
Just admit that you have no answers to my questions.

Why?
Islam is based on lies and deceit : thus, it is easy to find contradictions between your prefferd narratives and your religious books.


Why is it difficult to answer these Questions?


Questions:
1. If Mohammed can forgive sins of both Man and Jinn, is he not a partner with Allah?

2. If Mohammed can choose who to admit or not admit in paradise, is he not a partner with Allah?

3. Is it possible to recite the Shahada without associating Allah with Mohammed?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 3:14pm On Sep 06, 2023
ItsReal:
But the channel is open na... You seem to be a good representative of Christianity. Why don't you come on live to talk with the brother in the video instead of spreading different copy and paste you found elsewhere here.

The conversation was live, every saturday/ sunday evening around 9 to 12 pm... Any non muslim is allowed...
I guess that in this age of Internet access, it is easy to show where I copy and paste my facts.

I have asked you simple questions, give me the simple answers

Again, Let me ask you:
1. Where is the verse of breastfeeding of adults 10 times (later abrogated to 5 times breastfeeding) in the Qur'an?

2. Can you please show me the verse of stoning adulterers in the Qur'an?

3. Can you show me this verse in your Qur'an?
"If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust."

4. Can you show me this verse in your Qur'an?
"Oh people who believe, why do you say that which you do not practise" and that is recorded in your necks as a witness (against you) and you would be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection"
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 11:51am On Sep 06, 2023
ItsReal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXp5GW0Q-CY?si=phUYkpzttKxDTZ_w
Muslim Dawah tactics!

Find a "Christian" Who is not knowledgeable and drag him online to prove a point.
Christians have never claimed that the Bible is written or dictated by God but by human beings like you and me.

Since your Quran is perfect, you should be able to help me clarify my questions below


Let me ask you:
1. Where is the verse of breastfeeding of adults 10 times (later abrogated to 5 times breastfeeding) in the Qur'an?

2. Can you please show me the verse of stoning adulterers in the Qur'an?

3. Can you show me this verse in your Qur'an?
"If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust."

4. Can you show me this verse in your Qur'an?
"Oh people who believe, why do you say that which you do not practise" and that is recorded in your necks as a witness (against you) and you would be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection"


I expect you to vanish like others! A whole book of Allah that need to be sustained with lies to keep people in Islam.


After answering the above, can you now simply answer my original Questions on your DOCTRINES:


Questions:
1. If Mohammed can forgive sins of both Man and Jinn, is he not a partner with Allah?
2. If Mohammed can choose who to admit or not admit in paradise, is he not a partner with Allah?
3. Is it possible to recite the Shahada without associating Allah with Mohammed?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 9:41am On Sep 06, 2023
MightySparrow:
Mo is a propheti fraud.
It is obvious that without lies, Islam cannot survive.

Allah and his angels prays for Mohammed : Muslims say, he didn't pray for Mohammed but only prayed for Mohammed.

Allah is the Arrogant : they say no! That the word Arrogant mean supreme!

Too many cascade of lies just to sustain Islam
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 7:57am On Sep 06, 2023
MightySparrow:
Mo is a propheti fraud.
Even though I presented the arguments from their own Islamic literatures they would still insist that I am lying like their prophet is known for.

Islam hate the truth like plague.

Here, there is no Arabic word to mistranslate : See As they are all feigning deaf and dumb!
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 4:21am On Sep 06, 2023
The Greatest weakness of Muslims now is that the internet has made their books available to the whole world and many of the contents are seriously embarrassing to them.

To overcome this, they have created series of prefferd narratives about what they want to believe about Mohammed, Allah and Islam.

They now insist about these rewrite of the truth hoping that everyone will forget the real truth and adopt their new claims as the full truth and claim.

But like they say,
The internet NEVER forgets!

This is the bitter truth.


Islam need to be propped up with lies, misinterpretattion and misinformation to stand: for without lies, Islam dies!
Family › Re: My Wife's Sudden Change After Childbirth is driving me nuts! by TenQ: 10:31pm On Sep 05, 2023
thesilentman:
My blood is burning now as I write.My wife has now completely changed for bad, a few days after our second child.

An erstwhile submissive woman that i thought i had tamed for life has now become a thorn in the flesh to me. I just parted with over 300k unplanned fund for her C.S. I thought she'd be more respectful to me now but no,she has changed completely!

She dares me to do my worst,she cries over small issues that i wonder if it's witchcraft.Or she thinks I can't quit cos she's got two boys for me? The mind boggles. Am just mad and gobsmacked at the same time as all my Red pill O.T have failed and am even considering divorce right now.

I'm at a bar drinking my sorry ass away, brainstorming the best option for me. What could be outta place?

I need candid advice,folks.
Here hormones have gone haywire : try to understand this and be a man o!

She doesn't even know why she's cranky!
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 6:16pm On Sep 05, 2023
ANTIlSLAM:
Where are the followers of Muhammad, your food don land

AntiChristian come out and see something
They are all pretending that they've not read the post.

This one is in black and white and undeniable nor refutable!

Unfortunately, it goes against their preferred Narrative of Islam

It is either that
1. Mohammed is the same as Allah
2. Mohammed is a partner with Allah
3. Mohammed has the power of Allah to forgive sin
Crime › Re: Mosque-goers Fight Each Other Inside Mosque, Many Hospitalised by TenQ: 5:01pm On Sep 05, 2023
TemplarLandry:
Yes. Or alcohol concealed in kettles.
They've been mute with my latest post now.

There is no way they wouldn't get ruffled if they engaged the topic of discussion


https://www.nairaland.com/7828679/mohammed-almighty-partner-allah


They are all acting deaf and dumb now!
LOL!!
Crime › Re: Mosque-goers Fight Each Other Inside Mosque, Many Hospitalised by TenQ: 4:29pm On Sep 05, 2023
TemplarLandry:
grin
I dedicate “No Wahala” by 1da Banton to them.
Great jam!


Alfaa TenQ, check this out.
The fight must be over money
Christianity Etc › Re: Does It Mean That All My Prayers Are Not Being Answered? by TenQ: 2:22pm On Sep 05, 2023
DCmaverick:
I've been going to church year after year, month after month, week after week and day after day but it seems all the prophetic declerations and AMENS i've been shouting is nt working. What is wrong lord? Where am i getting it wrong?
what must i do?
Here you go
Digirebel:
Also


My advice.

Pray yourself, have a prayer point list, dedicate time to pray and use the scriptures. ( verses and Psalms)
Also spend more prayer time on thanksgiving prayers than request
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Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 2:19pm On Sep 05, 2023
Westerhoffe:
AntiChristian
TruthDay
AntiChristian will soon write a counter thread watch it.

This one is in black and white and undeniable nor refutable!
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 11:22am On Sep 05, 2023
Allah claimed that the Christians say that Allah is the Messiah!

If this is true, then the Messiah CANNOT be a partner with Allah but the same identity or personality.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 9:47am On Sep 05, 2023
VeryGoodMan:
Mohammed raped a 9 year old after fingering her for 3 years prior.
The character of Mohammed is below vile: yet he is the greatest prophet of Allah who is licensed to commit sin with no repercussion.

This one is hard for them to defend with their usual lies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 7:59am On Sep 05, 2023
advocatejare:
They will shy away from this thread as usual, they can’t withstand the truth
The problem of Muslims is that they have a contemporary preferred Narrative of how Islam is.

Unfortunately, this contemporary view goes often
1. At variance with the Qur'an
2. At variance with their Hadiths
3. At variance with their Tafsirs
4. At variance with their Sira
5. At variance with Logic.

They think by repeating their preferred Narrative that the errors of Islam will somehow be fixed
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 6:19am On Sep 05, 2023
Muslims are ready to claim that Christians associate partners with Allah.

Unfortunately, the Author of the Qur'an either is completely confused or u knowledgeable about what Christians truly believe.

Allah claimed that the Christians say that Allah is the Messiah!

If this is true, then the Messiah CANNOT be a partner with Allah but the same identity or personality.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by TenQ(op): 11:32pm On Sep 04, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Al-Mutakabir, an Arabic term, refers to Allah's greatness and perfection.It is not appropriate to assign a plural form to this term due to its uniqueness and incomparability. In Islamic theology, Allah is considered one and indivisible, making it inappropriate to assign plural forms. Instead, we can appreciate Allah's vastness and grandeur through various attributes and qualities conveyed in the Quran
Why don't you ask those who are more knowledgeable?

Is it UNTRUE that In Arabic that "Mutakabireen" (متكبرين) is the plural form of the word "Mutakabbir" (متكبر), which means "arrogant" or "proud."?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by TenQ(op): 11:29pm On Sep 04, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Sentence context Mr not individual words.
These are the specifics of grammar in this language.
You submit that Q59:23 is not a correct translation of the meaning of the verse or will you rather reverse this into the other verses?

At last we will all know wouldn't we?
I asked you a question :



Is it UNTRUE that In Arabic that "Mutakabireen" (متكبرين) is the plural form of the word "Mutakabbir" (متكبر), which means "arrogant" or "proud."?


Sorry, I don't understand how Quran 59:23 has anything to do with this

Qur'an 59:23
هُوَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِى لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْمَلِكُ ٱلْقُدُّوسُ ٱلسَّلَٰمُ ٱلْمُؤْمِنُ ٱلْمُهَيْمِنُ ٱلْعَزِيزُ ٱلْجَبَّارُ ٱلْمُتَكَبِّرُ ۚ سُبْحَٰنَ ٱللَّهِ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Deleted This Verse From The Perfectly Preserved Quran Of Muhammad? by TenQ(op): 11:23pm On Sep 04, 2023
honesttalk21:
As you say you think.

I don't follow propositions or hypothesis.

Psalms are recited though you may argue David wrote them.

But

“Now they told David, “Behold, the Philistines are fighting against Keilah and are robbing the threshing floors.” Therefore David inquired of the Lord, “Shall I go and attack these Philistines?” And the Lord said to David, “Go and attack the Philistines and save Keilah.” But David’s men said to him, “Behold, we are afraid here in Judah; how much more then if we go to Keilah against the armies of the Philistines?” Then David inquired of the Lord again. And the Lord answered him, “Arise, go down to Keilah, for I will give the Philistines into your hand.” And David and his men went to Keilah and fought with the Philistines and brought away their livestock and struck them with a great blow. So David saved the inhabitants of Keilah.” (1 Samuel 23:1–5, ESV)

On weeping I didn't restrict myself to the Israelites with Moses however they explained their discomfort by crying/complaining to Moses about what he says his God has asked them to do being worse torment than when they were in Egypt.
Exodus 2:23
Now it came about in the course of those many days that the king of Egypt died. And the sons of Israel sighed because of the bondage, and they cried out; and their cry for help because of their bondage rose up to God
Exodus 17:4
So Moses cried out to the Lord, saying, “What shall I do to this people? A little more and they will stone me.”
Judges 3:9
[b]When the sons of Israel cried to the Lord, [/b]the Lord raised up a deliverer for the sons of Israel to deliver them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb’s younger brother.

You do know there are both the written and Oral Torah?
The classic statement of the authority of the Oral Torah is found in the first mishnah in Avot 1:1: “Moses received the Torah at Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua, Joshua to the elders, and the elders to the prophets, and the prophets to the Men of the Great Assembly.
The Qur'an is a Recitation!
Is the Psalm a Recitation?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op): 11:19pm On Sep 04, 2023
Hh
Christianity Etc › Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ(op):
1. Mohammed Forgives the Sins of Muslims


When you ask Muslims the question :
Who has the power to forgive sin, they would say "it's only Allah!".

But today, I will show you that
It is either that
1. Mohammed is the same as Allah
2. Mohammed is a partner with Allah
3. Mohammed has the power of Allah to forgive sin


Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.


Let me walk us through this verse
1. Who is speaking?
Answer: Allah!
2. Who is the Subject?
Answer: Mohammed!
3. What were Allah's instructions?
Answer: Muslims should respond to Mohammed, Allah's Messenger
4. Why should Mohammed be obeyed According the Allah?
Answer :
a. Mohammed will forgive Muslims (and Jinn) of their sins
b. Mohammed will guard Muslims from a painful doom (probably hell fire or Allah's judgment)



2. Mohammed is one who admits Muslims into paradise
One would think that it is Allah that should admit people into paradise but no, it is Mohammed.

Sahih al-Bukhari 7410
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will gather the believers on the Day of Resurrection in the same way (as they are gathered in this life), and they will say, 'Let us ask someone to intercede for us with our Lord that He may relieve us from this place of ours.
........
Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit whom I will admit into Paradise. I will come back again, and when I see my Lord (again), I will fall down in prostration before Him, and He will leave me (in prostration) as long as He wishes, and then He will say, 'O Muhammad! Raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request);
.......
Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit to whom I will admit into Paradise. I will come back and say, 'O my Lord! None remains in Hell (Fire) but those whom Qur'an has imprisoned therein and for whom eternity in Hell (Fire) has become inevitable.' " The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "There will come out of Hell (Fire) everyone who says: 'La ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart good equal to the weight of a barley grain. Then there will come out of Hell (Fire) everyone who says: ' La ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart good equal to the weight of a wheat grain. Then there will come out of Hell (Fire) everyone who says: 'La ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart good equal to the weight of an atom (or a smallest ant).



This is repeated in the following hadiths
1. Sahih al-Bukhari 4476
2. Hadith 36, 40 Hadith Qudsi


3. A person must associate specifically Muhammad with Allah in order to become a Muslim by reciting the Shahada
The statement of the Shahada:
"There is no god but Allah AND Muhammad is his prophet".

No one can become a Muslim without Recitation of this shahada with allegiance to Mohammed.


Questions:
1. If Mohammed can forgive sins of both Man and Jinn, is he not a partner with Allah?
2. If Mohammed can choose who to admit or not admit in paradise, is he not a partner with Allah?
3. Is it possible to recite the Shahada without associating Allah with Mohammed?




Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by TenQ(op): 9:17pm On Sep 04, 2023
Explore2xmore:
قِيلَ ٱدۡخُلُوٓاْ أَبۡوَٰبَ جَهَنَّمَ خَٰلِدِينَ فِيهَا ۖ فَبِئۡسَ مَثۡوَى ٱلۡمُتَكَبِّرِينَ
"(To them) it will be said, "Enter the gates of Hell to abide eternally therein, and wretched is the residence of the arrogant.""
(Q39:72)


ٱلَّذِينَ يُجَٰدِلُونَ فِيٓ ءَايَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ بِغَيۡرِ سُلۡطَٰنٍ أَتَىٰهُمۡ ۖ كَبُرَ مَقۡتًا عِندَ ٱللَّهِ وَعِندَ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ ۚ كَذَٰلِكَ يَطۡبَعُ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ قَلۡبِ مُتَكَبِّرٍ جَبَّارٍ
"Those who dispute concerning the signs of Allah without an authority having come to them - great is hatred [of them] in the sight of Allah and in the sight of those who have believed. Thus does Allah seal over every heart [belonging to] an arrogant tyrant."
(Q40:35)

إِلَٰهُكُمۡ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞ ۚ فَٱلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤۡمِنُونَ بِٱلۡأٓخِرَةِ قُلُوبُهُم مُّنكِرَةٞ وَهُم مُّسۡتَكۡبِرُونَ
"Your god is one God. But those who do not believe in the Hereafter - their hearts are disapproving, and they are arrogant."


هُوَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِي لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلۡمَلِكُ ٱلۡقُدُّوسُ ٱلسَّلَٰمُ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنُ ٱلۡمُهَيۡمِنُ ٱلۡعَزِيزُ ٱلۡجَبَّارُ ٱلۡمُتَكَبِّرُ ۚ سُبۡحَٰنَ ٱللَّهِ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
"He is Allah, other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him."
(Q59:23)

Two terms frequently mentioned in the Quran that highlight this theme are "Mutakabireen" and "al Mutakabir". Although both words have a similar root and convey the concept of arrogance, they differ in their nuances and implications within the context of the Quran.
"Mutakabireen" refers to those who exhibit arrogance and pride, often in a way that denies the existence or superiority of God.
This term is used to condemn those who reject religious guidance and consider themselves above divine authority. The Quran portrays the "Mutakabireen" as unappreciative and ungrateful individuals who fail to acknowledge their dependency on God's blessings.

On the other hand, "al Mutakabir" refers to God Himself as the Supreme Being, the Ultimate in Magnificence and Supreme Greatness. In this context, the term highlights God's infinite power, wisdom, and authority. It emphasizes the belief that true greatness and majesty belong to God alone. The Quran uses this term to remind humanity of their position of subservience to God and the need to submit to His will.
I don't know where you learnt your Arabic as your write up above is completely false and deceptive.

Let's test it out ,
1. Is it UNTRUE that In Arabic that "Mutakabireen" (متكبرين) is the plural form of the word "Mutakabbir" (متكبر), which means "arrogant" or "proud."?

The Arabic is written so that you can be sure that we are speaking about the same thing.


Mutakabireen refers to a group of people who are characterized by arrogance, pride, or a sense of superiority. This term is often used in the context of moral or behavioral descriptions.

Mutakabbir refer to a single person who is Arrogant. In the case of Allah, he is a single person Al-Mutakabbir!


I gave you an attachment of Arabic sentences in which singular forms Mutakabbir is used with respect to humans

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God:the Quran Evidence by TenQ: 9:07pm On Sep 04, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
The Hebrew word משיח, pronounced as "Mashiach," is rich in meaning and holds immense significance in Jewish beliefs and traditions. It refers to the concept of the Messiah, a savior figure who is anticipated to come and redeem the Jewish people. The word itself translates to "anointed one," symbolizing the anointing with holy oil that was traditionally done to consecrate kings and priests. The term Messiah has evolved over time, representing a messianic hope for a time of peace, justice, and the restoration of the Jewish people to their promised land.
So, seeing that Christians say that Allah is the Messiah,

According to Allah in the Qur'an, who are the (supposed) partners of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God:the Quran Evidence by TenQ: 9:05pm On Sep 04, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
The Qur’an uses the phrase that Allah is “the best of creators” [23:14, 37:125] on two occasions. What other creators are in mind? On the other hand, many verses make clear that Allah alone is “the creator of all things” [e.g., 39:62].

There is nothing left for others to be a creator of.
23:14 “Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!
* translation of the meaning*
Do you think I can be the best student if in my class, I am the ONLY student?
Do you think I can be the best carpenter in my city if I am the ONLY carpenter?
Do you think I can be the best medical doctor in Nigeria if I am the ONLY Doctor?


So also, If I am the bestow for the Creators, there must necessarily be other creators but I am the best.




Allah can only be the best of creators (plural) if other creators exist but amongst them Allah is the best.

Is it true that Allah is better than Baal in creation affairs?

Even though you Muslims claim that Allah is not comparable to anyone, here, Allah compared himself to Baal with respect to creation!
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Deleted This Verse From The Perfectly Preserved Quran Of Muhammad? by TenQ(op): 8:02pm On Sep 04, 2023
honesttalk21:
It is safe not to keep discussions with you as you are a severely blinkered obstinate.
Do you dictate to God how he chooses to speak with his creation? Are you this insolent?
Can you not comprehend?
A recitation can be from God, his angels or another being as sent by God.
Did God communicate with all prophets in one way and at all times?
Apart from the Qur'an, do you know any scripture that is a Recitation?
It doesn't exist sir!

honesttalk21:
The level of faith and their weeping seems beyond your understanding. This could be a cry for help or praise or regret on wrong doings?
Did I not show you exactly where this happened in the Bible?

It's not a matter of could or might have happened : I showed you the context of what happened


honesttalk21:
Did Jacob not understand that his son Joseph had gotten a revelation? You think he wouldn't have understood that his son's dream was a revelation?

You repeat yourself on issues previously discussed and now try to bring other arguments into another? We have discussed spirit and believe Ohyoudidnt shared with you about a distressing spirit from God.
You don't even know what a spirit is, how can you be correct with your interpretation of a "distressing spirit" from God!


honesttalk21:
I am not into comparative religion and am satisfied with my growing faith and Quran.

Was the Quran not sent down in Arabic, to a prophet in Arabia; in the language of the Arabians so they will understand?

Or you believe Allah will speak to people for them not to understand?

This last argument of yours. What do you think of it?
I believe that Mohammed and Allah are the same person. Many things he wrote that no muslim in the world understand in the Qur'an.

My issue is this:
You don't even know if Allah has deceived you or not
Christianity Etc › Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by TenQ(op):
Explore2xmore:
You can run with whatever makes you feel better and helps you sleep at night.

Understand the context in the use of the word
Tell me, if Christians redefined an embarrassing word they didn't appreciate in the Bible and claim that Hebrew or Greek is spectacularly untranslatable and thus give it a different meaning , how would you feel? Would it make you respect us Christians?

It's just food for thought!

Have a beautiful night rest sir
Politics › Re: Inexperienced Boy Owns Private Jet Under Buhari – Sanusi by TenQ: 7:10pm On Sep 04, 2023
treesun:
https://dailytrust.com/inexperienced-boy-owns-private-jet-under-buhari-sanusi/
Cc:
MANABBQGRILL

Former Emir of Kano, Muhammadu Sanusi II, has said former President Muhammadu Buhari-led administration treated the economy without recourse to experts’ advice.

The former governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), who stated this in a video message to Nigerians, said sycophants exploited the system, adding that an “inexperienced boy” owned a jet under the past administration.

He said borrowing had crippled Nigeria’s economy, urging the citizens to be patient with the current administration led by President Bola Tinubu.

Sanusi stated that some people wrote to him demanding that he speak on the current situation in the country. He, however, said this is not the right time for him to speak on the difficulties Nigerians are experiencing.

Sanusi said, “The last eight years, Nigeria led a false life, the government borrowed from within and without. About N30 trillion was borrowed from the Central Bank.

“All the revenue the country generated in the last few years couldn’t service debt. Debt service exceeded 100 per cent. Government borrowed to service debts. No country can grow this way. Time will come when one cannot borrow any more. Additionally there will be nothing to pay debts.

“Those writing, demanding that we speak on the current situation in the country; this is not the right time for me to speak. It was like a driver on the road driving recklessly despite a wise counsel telling him of a crater ahead. What will you tell after plunging the car into the hole?

“People refused to listen to us then. We will only now advise them to be patient. I will never say Tinubu has pushed Nigeria into difficulty. I am not saying he is flawless or flawed. We will speak when he goes astray. The government can’t pay subsidies since it doesn’t have the means.

“If they add tax, we have to pay since borrowing is impossible. If the CBN printed more naira, the dollar would jack up to N1,500. We must suffer. When I was the CBN governor it was N150. Today it’s somewhere around N900.

“They treated the economy the way they wanted and refused to listen to experts. In the last eight years only sycophancy succeeded. The sycophants bought dollars at N400 and sold N540. An inexperienced boy who had never worked anywhere owns a private jet.”

https://dailytrust.com/inexperienced-boy-owns-private-jet-under-buhari-sanusi/
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God:the Quran Evidence by TenQ: 6:35pm On Sep 04, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Why would Allah need a co-creator?
I don't know?

Didn't Allah say that he is the best of the creators?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God:the Quran Evidence by TenQ: 6:19pm On Sep 04, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Undue praise is made that Jesus by the leave moulded the form of a bird and breathed into it bringing it to life. Perharps those who equated him by this action to Allah should have brought fort a story of him creating or man or baby in similar fashion?

Have you considered the one who trained birds and killed them then put parts od their carcas at different mounts? Did he not call them and they came to him alive by leave of Allah?

Throughout history, there have been several Messengers of Allah who possess the miraculous ability to resurrect the dead. One prominent example is the Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him). Jesus performed many miracles during his lifetime, but one of the most extraordinary was his ability to bring the dead back to life. In the Quran, Jesus is depicted as reviving the dead with the permission and will of Allah. His miracles serve as a testament to his status as a divine Messenger and reinforce the power of Allah.

Another Messenger of Allah with the ability to resurrect the dead was the Prophet Elijah (peace be upon him). Known for his righteousness and devotion to Allah, Prophet Elijah was bestowed with the gift of restoring life to the deceased. In one account, he resurrected the son of a widow who had shown kindness to him and provided him with shelter. Through his supplications and the will of Allah, Prophet Elijah was able to bring the boy back to life, showcasing his divine mission and illustrating the limitless power of Allah.

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the final and most revered Messenger of Allah, also had an encounter with the miraculous resurrection of the dead. During a time of great need, the Prophet Muhammad prayed for a companion who was bitten fatally by a venomous snake. By the will and authority of Allah, the person was revived and gained a second chance at life. This incident serves as yet another example of the prophets as the chosen ones of Allah, empowered with extraordinary abilities to fulfill their duties and guide humanity towards the path of righteousness.
The question was simple

Is Jesus a Co-Creator with Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God:the Quran Evidence by TenQ: 6:15pm On Sep 04, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Quran 22:73, a verse of the holy book of Islam, it is emphasized that the disbelievers who associate partners with Allah are not aware of the power of their actions. This verse must be understood in its contextual significance. It is a reminder for believers that their devotion and faith in Allah should never be weakened or compromised by the influence of those who defy the oneness of God. It urges Muslims to remain steadfast in their belief and continue to spread the message of Monotheism, guiding others towards the truth. Furthermore, this verse serves as a cautionary reminder that those who engage in polytheism are oblivious to the consequences of their actions, as Allah's divine justice will surely prevail. Therefore, it emphasizes the importance of remaining devoted to Allah and seeking knowledge, as comprehension and understanding are crucial aspects of faith.
But Christians do not associate partners with Allah.

Christians say Allah (God) is the Messiah!
Also
Christians say Allah (God) is the Holy Spirit!
Also
Christians say Allah (God) is the Father!

Christians never say that the Messiah is a partner with Allah (God)


Qur'an 5:72
"They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary' while the Messiah has said, 'O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers."



According to Allah in the Qur'an, who are the partners of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by TenQ(op): 5:12pm On Sep 04, 2023
Explore2xmore:
It's your hypocrisy I seek refuge in Allah from.

You stated distressing and benevolent in one of your comments.





Though I doubt you have the ability to understand being drunken in your opium of what the almighty's divinity should be
I can't sir.

The word Al-Mutakabbir mean Arrogant in every use of the word except that Muslims prefer to redefine it to mean something else when it refers to Allah!

Translate the following Arabic sentences and insert your preferred translation of Al-Mutakabbir as greatly Magnified, Magnificent or whatever and let's see.

TenQ:
I just discovered that the distressing spirit in 1Sam16:14 sent by God to Saul is NOT actually a distressing spirit. It means a benevolent spirit that is sent by God to bless Saul.[/i] LOL!

I believe this makes total sense to you.

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