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PepeXKermit:
America wey spend 20yrs for ordinary afghsnistan wey just get hilux and ak47 nko.. yeye people. Una think say war na wipeout today and go back home to fxk ypyr wife in the evening?

We are talking with respect to Satan II, Putin can fire it against any nation (even Gabon) and you think the world including China will begin to beg him?!

TOMMYS:
Where did you read or get the info that Putin is having a hard time in Ukraine?

He easy supposed to finish his task in Ukraine in a week!
He has spent almost two years removing a simple Clown and Comedian from government and the Neo-Nazis and de-Militerizing Ukraine!

I guess Putin decided to take his time! LOL!!

WriterNig:
It carries 12 warheads. Each warhead can wipe out an area the size of Texas.

52 States in the US. Do the math.

Cc Nlfpmod Lalasticlala Mynd44 Seun

And no single country in the world have countermeasures to this threat!?

Small Ukraine is giving Putin headaches and he wants to replace it with migraine!?

NewBea:
The West should thread carefully. Putin is clearly not someone you mess with.

And because he is the only country with nuclear weapon, we seriously need to fear him o.

He should just make sure that his first salvo wipes out completely the following countries USA, Germany, UK, France, Italy otherwise, we shall drink water!

What a joke!

Ohyoudidnt:
Allah calls Himself Al-Mutakabbir— The Supremely Great, The Perfection of Greatness— on one occasion in the Quran. He is the One who is supremely great. Al-Mutakabbir reveals His Greatness and power at every moment and in every incident!

The Supreme, The Possessor of All Rights, The Perfect Greatness

Mutakabbir comes from the root kaaf-baa-raa, which has three main meanings. The first main meaning is to be great in size, rank, or dignity, and the second to to be great in age and in learning. The third main meaning to have rights, privileges, and attributes that others don’t have.

This root appears 161 times in the Quran in 18 derived forms. Examples of these forms are kabura (“hard”), yastakbiroona (“arrogant”), akbaru (“(is)greater”), and al-kibari (“the old age”).

[b]Linguistically, kibriya means greatness and sovereignty, [/b]and it encompasses the meanings of the perfection of one’s self and existence; nobody can be described as such except Allah. Allahu Akbar– Allah is the Greatest— comes from the same root, as well as the name of Allah, Al-Kabeer. Al-Mutakabbir is the One who possesses all greatness, who is above having any of the qualities of His creatures, who cannot be harmed by the oppressors among His creation, and whose greatness and pride are the utmost.

Al-Mutakabbir Himself says: He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him. [Quran, 59:23]

Allah ‘azza wa jall describes people as mutakabbireen (arrogant) on multiple occasions in the Quran. They have arrogance in their hearts and actions towards Allah by disbelieving in His signs and they are arrogant to other people by looking down on them due to position, race, wealth, etc.

To test your claim,
1. Here are 10 Arabic sentences (attached) for which you should replace the word Mutakabbir with either supremely great or perfection of greatness or even great or excellent
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See the attached 10 Arabic sentences to which he you should substitute your re-definition of Mutakabbir so that we see if the sentence makes sense
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The Truth is apparent to you here: you are redefining words to suit your purpose different from normal usage

2. Is it true that In everyday non Religious Arabic usage, "Mutakabbir" (متكبر) is an adjective that describes someone who is arrogant, haughty, or filled with pride. It is not a positive term and is often used to criticize someone's behavior when they display excessive pride or a sense of superiority over others.
So, if in a normal, non-religious context, "Mutakabbir" refers to a person who exhibits arrogance or an inflated sense of self-importance it means that you Muslims are redefining words to mean different from what it normally is.


Summary :
I see that you want to invent a new meaning of either supremely great or perfection of greatness or even great or excellent for the normal use of the word "Mutakabbir" (متكبّر) , this is a fallacy and deceptive use of words sir.

gaskiyamagana:
You forgot to add that you are anti-islam roboticalized reasoning, thinking and arguing person.

TenQ is back please

Is this the answer to the questions
Who is Israel in the Qur'an?
AND
Is he a prophet of Allah?

As, you did not answer the Question.

Let me help you.
God Himself renamed Jacob as Israel

Gen 32:28: "And He said, "Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.""

honesttalk21:
In the first place, Quran 19:28 says: Those are some of the prophets whom God has blessed from the descendants of Adam, and from those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from those whom We guided and chose. When the revelations of the Almighty were recited to them, they fell prostrating and weeping; which establishes Israel a.s as a person (progeny of).

When was the "revelation" recited to the descendants of both Abraham and Israel and they wept (for this is a lie). The Torah wasn't revealed before the split up of the descendant of Abraham. It was Moses that wrote the Torah (almost 600 years after Abraham)

honesttalk21:
Then it mentions in two verses the foremost of these that: We split them up into twelve tribal communities, and We inspired Moses when his people asked him for water, "Strike the rock with your staff," wherefrom twelve springs gushed out. Each people knew their own drinking place, and We shaded them with clouds, and We brought down upon them manna and quails: "Eat from the good which We have provided you with." They did not wrong Us, but they were wronging themselves. (Q7:160) then: O Children of Israel, We saved you from your enemy and We made an appointment with you at the right side of the mount, and We brought down upon you the manna and the quails. (Q20:80).

We know it was during the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt that Moses struck the rock that yielded 12 springs and are later fed with Manna and Quails. Are these people different from those in the following verse?

How did children fable entered the Quran?
No sir. There were two different times when Moses brought out water from the rock for the children of Israel. Which one of them was Allah referring to?
Exo 17:6: "Behold, I will stand before you there on the rock in Horeb; and you shall smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel."

Num 20:8: "Take the rod, and gather you the assembly together, you, and Aaron your brother, and speak you to the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and you shall bring forth to them water out of the rock: so you shall give the congregation and their beasts drink."

It seems Mohammed and Allah weren't aware of the two different times.

honesttalk21:
Now, Q12 state as follows:
100:He raised his parents upon the throne. They fell prostrate before him. He said, "O my father, this is the interpretation of my vision of old. My Lord has made it come true. He has been good to me when He took me out of prison and brought you out of the desert after the devil had driven a wedge between me and my brothers. My Lord is Gentle in what He wills. He is the Knowledgeable, the Wise.

Sorry, which throne because Jacob and his Family were nomadic people. They didn't even have a kingdom at that time till after Moses.

If Allah could make such Historical errors, woe betide Mohammed if his errors are not more multiplied.

Can you answer the Question :
The throne of which kingdom did the parent of Jacob sit upon.

If the narrative was in Egypt, the mother of Joseph was already long dead before that time. Joseph's mother died just as she gave birth to Benjamin (Joseph's only younger brother)

Gen 35:18-19:
"And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin. And Rachel died, and was buried in the way to Ephrath, which is Bethlehem."

Can you please explain the discrepancies?

Surat Yusuf is the most detailed historical chapter of the Qur'an, surely such detail could not have been missed by Allah

honesttalk21:
68: When they (the brothers) entered from where their father instructed them, it was not to avail them in any way against God, other than it being for a need which Jacob kept in himself and which he fulfilled, for he possessed certain knowledge that We taught him, but most people do not know.

And we know from Quran 12:4
When Joseph said to his father, "O my father, I saw eleven planets, the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating to me,"

1- Joseph had 11 brothers (12:4).
2- Jacob was the father of the 12 brothers (12:68).

The Children of Israel and the twelve tribal communities are the same people.
Israel the prophet had 12 sons from whom came the 12 tribes of Israel.

Did Joseph truly see eleven [b]stars or eleven planets?[/b]

Gen 37:9:
"And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brothers, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me."

honesttalk21:
Q12:38 states: And I (Joseph) have followed the creed of my fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is not for us to associate anything with God. That is from God's favour upon us and upon the people, but most people do not give thanks.

While we initially established Quran 19:58 and easily see that Jacob bore Isaac but is referred to as Israel in this verse.

1. You didn't establish that Jacob gave birth to Isaac.
2. Following your logic in Quran chapter 19, we see three disjointed names
Noah
Abraham
Israel

For Clarity
Noah's children =
Gen 6:10: "And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth."

Abraham's Children =
Gen 25:9: "And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre;"
Gen 25:1-2: "Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bore him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah."

Israel's Children =
Gen 35:22-26:
"And it came to pass, when Israel dwelled in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father's concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: The sons of Leah; Reuben, Jacob's firstborn, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun: The sons of Rachel; Joseph, and Benjamin: And the sons of Bilhah, Rachel's handmaid; Dan, and Naphtali: And the sons of Zilpah, Leah's handmaid: Gad, and Asher: these are the sons of Jacob, which were born to him in Padanaram."

Where is Ishaq (Isaac) in all of these?

Too bad sir
There exist ZERO connection between Israel and Jacob in the Qur'an.

ANTIlSLAM:
Muhammad don scam our brothers and sisters in Islam for bringing allah

He is the most successful scamming 419 in the history of humanity. Billions going to hell on account of one greedy man!?
Islam was a means of Mohammed acquiring money, women, power and control and unfortunately, he succeeded!

OTHER REFERENCES

1. The Deceiver
John 8:44
You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him . Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

2 Corinthians 11:14
No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

2. The Arrogant
Isaiah 14:12-15
"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (Satan), son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation, On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.' Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit.

3. The Distresser
Job 2:7
7 So Satan departed from the presence of the Lord, and smote (distressed) Job with sore boils, from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

The opposite of what God does is the work of satan.
Psalm 34:18
The Lord is near to the brokenhearted
And saves those who are crushed in spirit.

Quran 3:54
And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers

المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant/The Boaster Quran 59:23

المذل Al-Mudhil The Humiliating Quran 3:26

المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver Qur'an 8:30, Quran 3:54

الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser" Quran 6:17



Mallam AntiChristian, here is the post I promised you!
https://www.nairaland.com/7822320/trinity-explained-last#125464219

vannessa7:
First of all, there is blood atonement in Islam, when you give birth to a new baby you MUST kill a ram for the naming ceremony on the eight day, if you don't have money you will do it later but give your child name on eight day but you will still kill the ram, during our Eid festival we kill ram or one of the specified animals for celebration but not fish, when you go for Hajj in Mecca each person must kill a ram at a specific time over there during the Hajj.
Now, that said, I will have you know that the more sin the more blood that is required to atone for it. There is a lot of sin wherever grace abound and that's why Christianity require a human blood, Islam however purifies it's followers through the word of God and thats why there seems to be less blood required.

Islam is not actually about good works but about holiness obtained by praying five times daily using the word of God in the Quran, the word of God is mighty, sharper than any two edged sword, especially the Quran which is purely the word of God, no man's opinion in it whatsoever, that is why we revere the Quran because the word of God is God, we don't handle it anyhow and the Quran is also so alive that if you handle it anyhow you will know by yourself very soon because of what you will see, it is not like the Bible where grace of Jesus Christ has made the anger and judgement of God to be tempered down but grace leads to corruption because the devil have a free hand to operate.

Anyway because a genuine Muslim pray using the word of God 5 times daily, crams and recite the Quran which is the pure word of God regularly, performs all the physical cleansing of the body as ordained by Islam using the name of God, he fast Ramadan and also many other specified fasting in Islam, he pays his zakat or sadaka and also obey some simple Islamic injunction such as don't eat pork and don't expose your body, etc, he becomes holy and continues to be holy basically because of the word of God he reads during his five daily prayers and also crams carry the mighty power and presence of God, this make him lose appetite for many sin because the spirit of God comes to live in him, that is why when you go to real Islamic settlement you will find crime rate to be very low. I know many christians don't think Muslims have the holy spirit because I was shocked too to feel the mighty presence of the holy spirit in Islam but genuine Islam is full of the Holy spirit of God.

We also ask for forgiveness of sin verbally without telling God to look at the holiness of another person in order to forgive us as christians do which make their soul redundant, why will your soul be purified when all you need is the holiness of Jesus Christ, instead any evil living in that soul flourish because grace covers him too, it's only when the anointing of the holy spirit is brought down which is actually the power and presence of God during some programs that such evil might leave the soul but it will soon come back due to grace in Christianity, this presence and power of God is always available in Islam you don't need special programs to experience it.

The grace in Christianity comes through sacrifice on the cross while Islam is about obedience because we go to God directly without proxy or load of sin. Obedience is better than sacrifice. A Christian must carry a load of sin to qualify for grace, you must say you are a sinner and Christ died for your sin for you to be qualified for grace. Jesus himself said he came for sinner so if you are holy you don't need him, that's why a possessed person will continue to be possessed and never be completely delivered. Jesus is gentle so the demons and witchcraft powers remain whereas Islam will destroy them immediately you accept Islam and as long as you are a Muslim they will not have power over you because that grace and gentle anointing is not in Islam. The devil flees at the sight of Islam.

Christians however will be given time to be perfect by going through a wilderness experience because although they enjoy grace in this life, they will not see such grace in afterlife, no witch or wizard or familiar spirit will make heaven, you must allow the Holy spirit to destroy them here and that's why most people with serious warfare always receive call into ministry so they can have access to a higher presence of the Holy spirit in order to overcome because it's only holiness which is also the presence of God in ones life that brings permanent deliverance,

Islam brings you closer to God thus your warfare ends as soon as you accept Islam, the strongest pastor in Christianity is in the same category of holiness as a normal regular genuine Muslim who keeps himself and environment clean because dirtiness will nullify Islam in ones life because God will not stay in a dirty place or body. I think I've said enough. Lol

P S: when I talk about warfare I don't mean regular life challenges anyone might experience, I'm talking about darkness, being possessed with demons, witches, idols, familiar spirit, curses etc, because many of my Muslim brethren don't even know what all this mean because a genuine Muslim will never experience them unless you are dirty, it is normal to go through some life challenges but when the devil comes to live with a person, it is not normal , you need Islam.

Islam says that the Holy spirit is Jubril : is this true?

Wodu89:
Lol. They bring psychology to spiritual matters. Atheists will never seize to amaze me. Spiritual things is not given to you to discern so you won't understand. It is sin that is condemned in the sinner and not the sinner. If Jeuss had not showed the lady in the adultery situation love, should would have remained a sinner. If Jesus did not lovingly attend to the woman at the well, she would have never brought the harvest


When we bring the hammer to break and uproot and to destroy so a new foundation is constructed, it is not with the intention to kill the sinner.


Condemnation is a tool of the devil and we don't handle weapons of the enemey in doing our own battles.

Love should be the primary motivator in preaching christ but a person cannot be saved if he doesn't know what he's being saved from.

It is impossible to preach salvation without speaking about the fierce judgement of sin in hell.

Ohyoudidnt:
Makr is defined as causing something to others in a hidden manner, and it also conveys the meanings of plotting and deceit. However, it is of two types: blameworthy Makr, which means causing harm to someone who does not deserve it, and praiseworthy Makr, which means causing harm to someone who deserves it as a punishment. In the verses yo
In Quran 3:54 who are those making a plan?
Are these not the disbelievers and particularly the Jews scheming to accuse Jesus and have him done away with?

In your Bible at Matthew 26: 3-4
Then the leading priests and the older Jewish leaders had a meeting at the palace where the high priest lived. The high priest’s name was Caiaphas.
In the meeting they tried to find a way to arrest and kill Jesus without anyone knowing what they were doing. They planned to arrest Jesus and kill him.

This then leads to the question, is your God below his creation that they will out do or out smart him?
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says in Q3:55

"[Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ."

This is why there is Q4:171
Or you prefer your Messiah to first be cursed before he takes on the sin of man?
Gal 3:13 Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree

Do you not see Allah is indeed above all and well above his creation?

I will respond later to this your argument of Makr having positive connotations as it doesn't exist in Arabic language.

However,
Let me first address two issues
1. Why is Allah Al-Mumin?

Because, we believe only when our knowledge is NOT absolute.
Example :
We know that the sum of 2 oranges with 3 oranges will give us 5 oranges. (we don't believe the answer because we absolutely know the answer as 5)
However,
We can believe that Tinubu will perform well as Nigerian President or not (we don't absolutely know the answer as we are not God)


Why is Allah The Al-Mumin if he is supposed to be absolute and perfect in knowledge?




2. Why do you think that Allah is Al-Mutakabbir?
Do you think it is possible that God be Arrogant ? To whom then will God be arrogant to as one can only be arrogant either to ones peers or superior.

Who is Arrogant?
He is one who has or reveals a continuous exaggerated sense of his own importance or abilities.

Example:
Like a created being elevating himself to the statue of the Creator and Impersonating God


Why is Allah The Al-Mutakabbir if he is supposed to be absolute and there exist no superior to whom he can be Arrogant ?

FxMasterz:
Hmmm.

Where's the thread?

There is no thread yet for these: but it is obvious, isn't it.

Mohammed's father's name is Abdullah (Servant of Allah) and he was an Idolater.
The God of Mohammed is the God of the Kaaba aka the God of the Father of Mohammed. This had been upgraded as the God of the Jews and Christians

gaskiyamagana:
I said, now, soon or later you will demonstrate your diseased heart of thinking and brain of reasoning on interpretation and understanding of Allah, Islam and Muhammad (saw) as chiefly narrated in Q3:7 . Your above respond justified and validated my indepth understanding of you.

I write both for Christians and Muslims for the sake of their enlightenment.
Why do you conclude that my heart is diseased? Is it because I present conclusions from your religious books not according to your preferred Narratives?

I speak the truth with evidence from your religious books and that you can't refute. The only problem you have with me is that I expose things you would love to keep under the carpet and interpret rightly those things you have falsely misinterpretated to cause mischief even amongst Muslims.

Let me ask you of the things I wrote, which one of it is false?

Why has it been impossible to answer ANY of my questions?

Who is this Person in such a Disguise?
Here are five Names I want us to look at today:
Why!?, because if such a person exist, he would be a very arrogant person whose aim is to mislead humanity and cause distress and harm to them through deceit and mischief which would lead to their ultimate and perpetual humiliation .

Example:
To kill a rat in the house, we mislead/deceive it to think that we are offering it free good-looking-delicious food because we care for it. Unfortunately, our objective at the end of the day that when the Rat takes our bait, it would go into a state of painful distress and sorrowful humiliating death

Seeing the similarity of the purpose of the stealing, killing and destruction, we can not help but assume that this being is Satan!


Name #1: "Al-Makir" = The Deceiver
Name #2: "Al-Fattan" = The Mischief-Maker
Name #3: "Al-Mutakabbir" = The Arrogant
Name #4: "Ad-Darr" = The Distresser/The One who Causes HARM
Name #5: "Al-Muzil" = The Misleader/The Humiliator


The Arabic Wikipedia article contains more than 10 different lists by various Islamic scholars. Some of those lists contain the name "Best of deceivers" (خير الماكرين). The lists together contain 276 names of Allah and one can comfortably assume that there are other lists with more names. So, even though 99 names are claimed, the names after collation are all together up to 276
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/أسماء_الله_الحسنى#اجتهادات_في_إحصاءها


Who is a Deceiver?
He is One who deliberately and habitually misleads another or others by a false appearance or statement, especially one who does so habitually
Example: A person who daily misleads people to Hell Fire by giving alternatives to the Truth of God

Who is a Mischief-Maker?
He is a person who deliberately and habitually creates trouble for others.
Example: A person who deliberately and habitually expresses hate for others by creating problems and pain for good people

Who is Arrogant?
He is one who has or reveals a continuous exaggerated sense of his own importance or abilities.
Example: Like a created being elevating himself to the statue of the Creator and Impersonating God

Who is a Distresser?
He is one who deliberately and habitually causes (someone/others) anxiety, sorrow, or pain. Sorrow is feeling of deep distress caused by loss, disappointment or misfortune suffered
Example: A person whose purpose is to habitually cause people anxiety, sorrow and pain in their lives

However, note the qualifying word "THE" before the "VERB"
It is possible that a person cause you distress without being "The Distresser" e.g. A Medical Doctor
It is possible that a person mislead you without being "The Misleader/The Deceiver" e.g. Someone you asked for direction

The Qualifier "THE" imply that such has the nature of performing the action deliberately, innately, habitually.

There are Other names that belittle this personality so much but Muslims do not see it as derogatory for GOD.
المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer Quran 59:23
We believe only when we have made a conclusion based on our judgment of highest probability.
For instance, we don't believe that 2+4=6. We know that 2+4=6.
Rather, we can believe that Russia would win the War against Ukraine or vice versa based on our estimation of probabilities.
Does God work by a game of probabilities or by knowing the past, present and future?



Questions:
1. Do you think it is possible that God be Arrogant ? To whom then will God be arrogant to as one can only be arrogant either to ones peers or superior.
2. Why do you think that God is a Believer ? Do you agree that we take a position of belief only when we are not 100% certain of a conclusion but we have reasonable fact to place our bet on an outcome in the future?
3. If God is the author of Distress , why do we attribute our problems to Satan?
4. Why do you think that the objective of God is to Humiliate us if he actually commanded even the Angels to bow to man?
5. Did Muhammed know what Allah would do to him? If he doesnt as the one showing you the way, can you be sure he has not been deceived?
6. How are you sure that the Greatest of all Deceivers has no decieved you from the way of truth?

gaskiyamagana:
" It is he Who has sent down to you ( Muhammad, saw) the Book. In it are Verses that are entirely clear, ............ and others not entirely clear. So as for those ( TenQ and others )in whose heart (TenQ's thinking, reasoning and understanding) there is a deviation ( from the truth) they follow (hold on to) that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking FITNA (trial of misleading, confusion), and (hypocritically) seeking its hidden meanings, BUT none knows its hidden meanings EXCEPT Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge...."Q3:7.
This is applicable to other verses and teachings of Islam you are enemy of, not necessarily out of ignorant, but out of misguidance mission of you and others.
If seeking or questioning their meanings or teachings is genuine, as you always deceitfully claimed, you will not be a sturbon seeker of truth with dimensional repetition of sturboness in similar or related matter(s) upon which explanation and clarification have been given in the forum. Now, soon or later, you will definitely demonstrate the trait l talk about.
More power or grease to your elbow in the fruitless efforts, either as a Christian faithful or enemy of Islam, Q5: 116 - 118.

I can understand that you can't answer my question : but Allah also say that the Qur'an is easy to understand.

Qur'an 54:17
“And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember; then is there anyone who will remember”

The reason I ask you questions is that you go back to understand that the God of Islam seem to be very different from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

There seems to be a force bent on MILEADING humans from getting to Paradise. This is why if you check the characteristics of our Paradise (Islam and Christianity), it is completely different.
The Truth we preach is also different.

Do you think the same God will give such a conflicting message to mankind?
You will agree with me that you need just about 0.01% addition of poison to an excellent food to make it evil.

It is IMPOSSIBLE that Both Islam and Christianity are the Correct Way to Paradise!

We need to ask Questions to know the TRUTH!


A fair conclusion of SOME of the names of Allah is either that
1. It is NOT the name of God
2. The name belongs to an Imposter (trying to deceive people).


Mr gaskiyamagana,
I honestly truly care about you Muslims and before I leave this earth, I want to do my best to make you EXAMINE what you have merely Accepted and Believed without Question.
Why?
No one within my arena of influence will go to the Fire of Hell due to ignorance and failure on my part to warn you.

Islam is based on cascades of lies starting from the truth of there is one God the Creator of the heavens and the earth. To the claim of you serving the same God as Christians and Jews.



I am too sure you know that these five names are not fit for the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth?
1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir
2. المذل Al-Mudhil
3. المكر Al-Makr
4. الضار Ad-Daar
5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min

The only problem is the Question :
Why would Allah give himself such names.


I still invite you to ask Questions about the Messiah that you may be saved from the fire of Hell!


Even if you don't believe me:
Are my writings based on facts I bring from Islamic literatures themselves or conjectures I have fabricated?

correctguy101:
Ah ..

TenQ the musulmen basher wouldn't agree with you even if it's so obvious in their holey book....smh

I respect those who focus on their faith yet if you continually try to shame other faiths, I'll call you back to ya own (and that's if I'm not lazy at the time ) Lazyman, that I am ....smh

Thank you for bringing him back to his own chosen vawulent and deceptive God.

Funny thing is I admire all those criminal gods...

I suspect my nature isn't as gentle as I'm trying to make it....


SMH

Its so amusing when I see atheists coming to the defence of Muslims who are exposed from their own religious books.
Then I remember, birds of the same feathers flock together : you share the same father but you don't know!

LOL!

Maynman:
Then rethink this wack analogies since it doesn't apply.

"Would it be EVIL if the maker of Sophia (the AI Robot) David Hanson from Hanson Robotics decide to decommission Sophia and reuse the components for something entirely not related to Sophia?"

"it is just like an artist creating a painting and given it a name, he can decide to clean the painting to draw another one, who is it harming?"

Sorry lol

Too bad the pupu is smelling at your bum

Maynman:
If all his features are given to it then there is nothing like free choice, it is exactly as the artist intended it.
All his desires, lust and weakness to those desires, the artist knew why he painted it that way.
It is just like da vinci ben angry with his own paintings and how they look as if it is not his handiwork

The combination of Freewill and Conscience make humans much more complicated that just mere painting or AI robots.

Sorry!

Maynman:
All the features in a painting is given to it by the artist, and the painting is exactly how the artist intends it, it has no freewill of his own.

All the features in a human being is given to it by the Creator , and humans is exactly how the Creator intends it, with freewill of his own and a Conscience for it to choose love to his neighbour

FxMasterz:
I love the penetrating message of the bolded.

Unfortunately,
They don't see such limiting names as they don't ask questions.

Why would God be a Believer if He is All knowing?

Why would God the Creator be Arrogant : Who is he competing with: His superior! ?


This is a fresh thread topic on its own.

Mohammed upgraded his father's idol Allah to the status of Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!?

What an audacity!

Maynman:
Sophia is a name given to the products of David Hanson, it is just like an artist creating a painting and given it a name, he can decide to clean the painting to draw another one, who is it harming?
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Humans is the name given to the product of God the Creator. it is just like an artist creating a painting and given it a name, he can decide to clean the painting to draw another one, who is it harming?
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Honesttalk21 is in such a big shock
Ohyoudidnt doesn't know what to say
LegalWolf is in comatose (His nemesis caught up with him)
Rashduct4luv is feigning ignorance
Bakrabas is willing to challenge anyone to a debate but would pretend he hasn't seen this post.
Hamill is ready to fight for Islam but picks his fights carefully
Musa95 is ready to debate but this isn't a debate, it is a trade of truth.


I was shocked when I discovered that the names of Allah excited exceeded 99 and all together up to 276 even though each of your scholars maintain their own 99 names.
You might want to tell me which of those lists of names are fabrications as usual.
Can you people just do without manufacturing hadiths and sunna for Allah?

Do you think my translation of the Arabic is wrong?
1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant/The Boaster Quran 59:23

2. المذل Al-Mudhil The Humiliating Quran 3:26

3. المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver Qur'an 8:30, Quran 3:54

4. الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser" Quran 6:17

5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer Quran 59:23


To kill a Rat with poison, all we have to do is to add 0.1% of Poison to the Aromatic, Tantalising and we'll prepared good Food.


Are These names truly the names of Allah?

Maynman:
If it's not harmful how is it Evil?
Decommissing a robot and killing people and infants are not same thing, even muslim extremists don't use this wack analogy.

When Sophia ceases to exist, is this not a harm to her?
If I vapourised you in an instant and you cease to exist, would this be harm?

The five guys in the imploded Titan submersible didn't even know what happened as they died almost instantaneously : were they harmed?


Your accusation was about EVIL, leave Harm out of the equation.

Would it be EVIL if the maker of Sophia (the AI Robot) David Hanson from Hanson Robotics decide to decommission Sophia and reuse the components for something entirely not related to Sophia?
WHY?

Maynman:
What david hanson did is not harmful.

The question was,
Is this act EVIL!

TemplarLandry:
Alfaa. 😁

Mr Gaskiyamagana and Akinbahm, Is this set of hadith true?

Sahih Bukhari 50:894
Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) said, “Allah has ninety-nine names, i.e. one-hundred minus one, and whoever knows them will go to Paradise.”

Sahih Muslim Book-48 Hadith-5
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: There are ninety-nine names of Allah; he who commits them to memory would get into Paradise. Verily, Allah is Odd (He is one, and it is an odd number) and He loves odd number..”


Do you think this exercise is sufficient to get a person into paradise?

Are These names truly fit for the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth?

1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant/The Boaster Quran 59:23

2. المذل Al-Mudhil The Humiliating Quran 3:26

3. المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver Qur'an 8:30, Quran 3:54

4. الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser" Quran 6:17

5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer Quran 59:23


Is there a problem with the translation or meaning?

DeepSight:
Nonsense. What is the difference between an activity and a name? I call myself a thief or I actually steal, which is worse. I will not waste time with such a silly shallow escapist explanation.

But at all events, if you are interested in what Yahweh actually calls himsellf, here goes -

“There is none beside me.
I am the Lord, and there is none else.
I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil:
I the Lord do all these things” (Isaiah 45:6–7, KJV)

I gave you same examples for clarity sake:
Don't forget that
It is possible that a person cause you distress without being "The Distresser" e.g. A Medical Doctor
It is possible for a person to be drunk without being a drunkard




Can you please truthfully answer this questions
1.Is it possible that a medical doctor cause a patient distress?

2. Does it make the medical doctor a disresser (one who causes distress)?

DeepSight:
Yes, the Abrahamic God of both the Bible and the Quoran is extremely evil.
Good day.

I just gave you a question to quizle your understanding of the word evil

DeepSight:
Earlier? I have not discussed this with you before. Please note I am neither Christian nor Muslim. I am just showing you that you are wasting your time because they are both religions which worship the same blood thirsty criminal entity called Yahweh/ Allah.

Since you are neither a Christian not Muslim, let me give you a question of Conscience.


Would it be EVIL if the maker of Sophia (the AI Robot) David Hanson from Hanson Robotics decide to decommission Sophia and reuse the components for something entirely not related to Sophia?
WHY?

DeepSight:
Yahweh as a destroyer - Yahweh constantly gave evil genocidal commands to the Israelites -

1 Samuel Chapter 15 - He commands the destruction of the Amalekites - "This is what the LORD Almighty says: `I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy [1] everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Deuteronomy Chapter 7 - "When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[b] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession."

Joshua Chapter 6 - "Joshua got up early the next morning and the priests took up the ark of the Lord. 13 The seven priests carrying the seven trumpets went forward, marching before the ark of the Lord and blowing the trumpets. The armed men went ahead of them and the rear guard followed the ark of the Lord, while the trumpets kept sounding. 14 So on the second day they marched around the city once and returned to the camp. They did this for six days.

15 On the seventh day, they got up at daybreak and marched around the city seven times in the same manner, except that on that day they circled the city seven times. 16 The seventh time around, when the priests sounded the trumpet blast, Joshua commanded the army, “Shout! For the Lord has given you the city! 17 The city and all that is in it are to be devoted[a] to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent. 18 But keep away from the devoted things, so that you will not bring about your own destruction by taking any of them. Otherwise you will make the camp of Israel liable to destruction and bring trouble on it. 19 All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the Lord and must go into his treasury.”

20 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

22 Joshua said to the two men who had spied out the land, “Go into the prostitute’s house and bring her out and all who belong to her, in accordance with your oath to her.” 23 So the young men who had done the spying went in and brought out Rahab, her father and mother, her brothers and sisters and all who belonged to her. They brought out her entire family and put them in a place outside the camp of Israel.

24 Then they burned the whole city and everything in it, but they put the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron into the treasury of the Lord’s house. 25 But Joshua spared Rahab the prostitute, with her family and all who belonged to her, because she hid the men Joshua had sent as spies to Jericho—and she lives among the Israelites to this day."

That should be enough to show you the evil satanic genocidal nature of Yahweh as a destroyer. So far, I have shown you Yahweh as a liar and as a destroyer - and also a thief because he commands his people to steal the property of others. What else is left?

Is it possible for God to judge a people with death sentence and NOT be EVIL?


Are you saying that God is EVIL?



You can't answer the question!

Let me help you by simplifying the question so that you won't freak out


1. It is remotely possible that God the Creator of Everything is a Believer?

2. It is remotely possible that God the Creator of Everything is a Arrogant?



Just answer
YES/NO
and
WHY

DeepSight:
I have no energy to argue about what is a name and what is a description. I will just drop verses showing Yahweh of the Bible being all those things you rightly accuse Allah of being.

I start with deception.

2Ch And Micai'ah said, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left;
2Ch 18:19 and the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab the king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' And one said one thing, and another said another.
2Ch 18:20 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD, saying, 'I will entice him.' And the LORD said to him, 'By what means?'
2Ch 18:21 And he said, 'I will go forth, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' And he said, 'You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go forth and do so.'
2Ch 18:22 Now therefore behold, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouth of these your prophets; the LORD has spoken evil concerning you."

The above speaks for itself. Yahweh was involved with lies and deceit.

I think I've made it clear to you earlier:

I said:
Don't forget that
1. It is possible that a person cause you distress without being "The Distresser" e.g. A Medical Doctor
2. It is possible for a person to be drunk without being a drunkard

However, when an activity becomes a NAME, it shows that this is the NATURE of the person in Question.



Are you saying that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Deceiver?
Is it His nature to deceive?


I even gave you an example :

Example:
Can the God of Abraham Destroy?
YES!
But is He a Destroyer?
NO!


Too bad for you that you are desperately trying to find a way out.

I asked you some extremely simple questions:

My Brother, even if we want to ignore the names like Al-Mudhil and Ad-Daar, do you think that

1. It is remotely possible that God the Creator of Everything is a Believer?

2. It is remotely possible that God the Creator of Everything is a Arrogant?

3. It is remotely possible that God the Creator of Everything is a Deceiver?



I await your response!