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Ohyoudidnt:
No wonder. You don't know shaitan has a body even if different from yours. 🤣🤣🤣

Again it is your Christian belief that you wouldn't bodily enter paradise.

In any case this isn't the main issue. Explain your trinity in non confusing terms Tenq diversionary expert

Ohyoudidnt:
You enter paradise in spirit but those in hell have their spirit or body repeatedly burning?

Can fire burn the spirit?

Bring a mathematical jargon to show this.

Ohyoudidnt:
You see how you again start with your equation then divert from it?

Mr nonsensical confusion player why don't you explain the basics you feel I don't understand then show how it applies to your view of trinity?

The same old you cannot explain because you definitely confuse yourself in linking it.

Ohyoudidnt:
You enter paradise in spirit but those in hell have their spirit or body repeatedly burning?

Can fire burn the spirit?

Bring a mathematical jargon to show this.

Ohyoudidnt:
When the Body of your crucified Jesus was dead was his soul or spirit part in your trinity dead or alive? Then the father too?

Does your trinity not say they are all co equal, existing etc..?

Please tell why the coequality didn't all die and resurrect? Then when they were dead how come the world didn't seize to exist?

Ohyoudidnt:
A liar will always make new statements to divert.

"And do not say of those who are slain in the way of Allah, ‘They are dead.’ Rather, they are alive, but you perceive not."
Surah Al-Baqarah (2:154);

You want to know and see the spirits of prophets and the righteous praying? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You probably might when you exist solely in the spirit form.

Are you trying to redefine i as a non abstract
which exists outside the number line of real numbers?

Is it a falsehood that abstract nature of mathematics means that its truth and reality are distinct from the empirical truth and physical reality we experience? ? ?

If you don't even understand the concept of Trinity, it is as good as arguing with a person who doesn't understand how i=✓(-1) .
Therefore, understand what you are arguing against first before making yourself look like a full blown pack of balloon.

Ohyoudidnt:
The way you run to the defined abstracts of mathematical principles shows you cannot explain your belief in clear terms. Lie that you will not introduced the imaginary unit, i, to provide solutions to equations that have no real number solutions,

Do you disagree that the Trinity is made up of three distinct persons who are unified, co-equal, and co-eternal? This is quite different from how human beings are made up of parts that, while essential, don’t have their own separate personalities or roles so that human analogy fails flat.

Expanse2020:
So Is Jesus God alone
Or 3 in 1 now
You people are confusion is oo.
Kobojunkies
Antiislam
OLADEGBUS
TENQ

Ohyoudidnt:
Just to satisfy my best effort to answer your usual bother.

The poor will enter Paradise five hundred years before the rich.

The Prophet (pbuh) often emphasized the virtues of the poor, providing comfort and a spiritual outlook for those facing hardships. This isn’t about condemning wealth itself.

This hadith doesn’t criticize all wealthy individuals; rather, it serves as a caution about the pitfalls of wealth, the delays in accountability, and a reminder that being poor in this world doesn’t mean you’re out of favor with God.

2. Why 500 Years Before?

1. Wealthy individuals have more to answer for.
They must account for how they earned their money, how they spent it, and whether they gave zakah, helped others, or hoarded it. This results in a longer reckoning (ḥisāb) on the Day of Judgment. Consequently, the poor, with fewer responsibilities, are judged more swiftly and can enter Paradise sooner.

2. Five Hundred Years = A Half-Day in the Hereafter
According to Qur’an 32:5:
“A day with your Lord is like a thousand years of what you count.”
So, 500 years is just half a day in God’s eyes—not a literal measure of time, but a metaphor for delay and anticipation.

3. Spiritual Honor & Consolation
The poor often endure suffering in this life. Allah honors them by granting them early access to Paradise as a reward for their patience and their lack of worldly excess.

3. Does That Mean All Poor Are Better Than the Rich?
Not at all.
Islam doesn’t glorify poverty itself. Instead:
Poverty accompanied by patience and righteousness is esteemed.
Wealth that is met with gratitude and generosity is also commendable.

The Prophet (pbuh) said:
“How excellent is wealth for a righteous man!” (Musnad Ahmad, Sahih)

Thus, wealthy believers who give, engage in charity, and remain humble will also find their way to Paradise, but they will face a longer period of accountability.

4. Balance in Other Hadiths

To avoid any misconceptions, Islam presents a balanced perspective.

The Prophet (pbuh) also cautioned the poor.
Some among the poor may face punishment for harboring envy or begging unnecessarily.

He also spoke of the righteous wealthy (like Abu Bakr, Uthman, Abdul Rahman ibn Awf) saying that there’s no harm in a wealthy person who is God-fearing.

So, entry to Paradise isn’t determined by wealth but by God consciousness;Taqwa, good deeds, patience in hardship and gratitude in wealth.

5. Spiritual Lessons from the Hadith
Accountability grows with blessings.
Wealth serves as a test, often leading to a delayed entry due to extended judgment.

Avoid envying the wealthy.
The luxuries they enjoy today might come with their own set of delays or burdens tomorrow.

Being poor isn’t a curse.
With patience and sincerity, poverty can actually pave the way to Paradise more swiftly.

Spend wealth wisely.
Those with riches should focus on spending, giving, and living humbly — as their Day of Judgment will be more extensive.

Related Quranic Reminder:
“Then you will surely be asked that Day about the pleasures (you enjoyed).”
— Qur’an 102:8

This encompasses every extra meal, piece of clothing, home, car, and comfort. Therefore, the less one possesses, the fewer questions they’ll face, leading to a quicker entrance.

The hadith in Tirmidhi reminds us that:

Wealth comes with responsibility, which can slow down the path to Paradise.

The righteous poor will be honored with an earlier entry into Paradise — 500 years ahead of the wealthy.

It’s a reminder for all believers to be mindful of Allah, manage wealth thoughtfully, and remain humble, no matter their status.

Ohyoudidnt:
What are you saying about timing?
You then go into a needless epistle talking anout parables.
You forget about time with God and time with mankind?



You must say something to show you die fighting or arguing? It's relativity and it shouldn't be misinterpreted to mean that there aren't rich men who are also amongst the first entrants into paradise.
You seem to allude imperfection in Allah's perfect justice, mercy and reward?

Ohyoudidnt:
You know you only waste your time asking question you already have your own answers to so will appreciate when your inputs are ignored.

Ohyoudidnt:
You know you only waste your time asking question you already have your own answers to so will appreciate when your inputs are ignored.


Is the intelligence waning with age or brilliance getting lazy?

You agree with your biblical statement where it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God; Matthew 19:24 but cannot understand the concept of human time and calendar compared to time with Allah or God if you like?

See also Psalm 90:4 (ESV): “For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night but it may not count as it is a song of David?


A day with your Lord is like a thousand years of what you count.” — (Qur’an 22:47)


Is Tenq getting overwhelmed and tired of his fruitless rambling?

Ohyoudidnt:
Regardless, you project knowing better about Islam than Muslims don't you?

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Ohyoudidnt:
You cannot investigate this?

Ohyoudidnt:
The first revelation is Surah 96? Please tell if you are honest if all the verses of this Surah were revealed at once then explain how it was completed.

TheJustPath:
How exactly am I buttressing your point? Try to follow your own argument for once instead of twisting it to sound clever. Islam does not teach that wealth or status guarantees Paradise — if anything, the opposite is true. The Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) warned that the rich will be held to account more severely, and no amount of clerics praying can bribe Allah.

So your claim that ‘more prayers for the rich means higher chances of Paradise’ is just lazy thinking. Our prayers are never worthless, but they don’t override someone’s deeds, because ultimate judgment belongs to Allah alone — not crowds at a funeral.

Next time, get your facts right before parroting half-baked assumptions about Islam. Sincerity and good deeds matter, not your warped idea that influence buys divine favour. Try reading what Islam actually says — it might help you make a point that holds up for once.

Ohyoudidnt:
One more thing you can marvel about amongst the many things you already marvel on. Go read Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2354 and make what you can or will of it please.

Ohyoudidnt:
What is?

Of what significance is earthly ordinance to acceptance of prayer? If the poor has many who silently pray for him or her will this be ineffective because they are not recognised clergy?

The best of people in the sight of Allah are not those with the most wealth, but those with the most God-consciousness, righteous deeds, good character, and sincere devotion to Him.

You have expressed about what you see and hear physically but so much you don't know about between Allah and his creation.

The Prophet pbuh said:
The poor will enter Paradise five hundred years before the rich among the Muslims. al-Tirmidhi

Poverty is not dishonor; rather, many of the pious were poor in material life but rich in faith

Ohyoudidnt:
Did Prophet Muhammad pbuh rearrange the Quran? No.

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) didn’t rearrange the Qur’an on his own. The order of its verses and chapters was actually guided by Allah through the angel Jibril.

Every year, Jibril would review the Qur'an with the Prophet, and in the year of his passing, they went over it together twice.
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 61, Hadith 129)

This review, known as muaradah, wasn’t just about reciting the text; it was about confirming the proper order of the Qur’an to ensure it would be preserved and handed down correctly.

He doesn’t speak from his own desires; it’s purely a Revelation that has been revealed. (An-Najm:3–4)

The Qur’an exists as one in the Lawh al-Mahfuz and was revealed with authorized variations in how it can be recited.

The Qirāʾāt aren’t different versions of the Qur’an; they’re simply different authentic ways to recite the same divine text.

Lawh al-Mahfuz contains perfect divine knowledge of all human speech, actions, and intentions

TheJustPath:
Your attempt at cheap mockery only exposes your shallow grasp of Islamic belief and basic human decency. First, who told you prayers are ‘wasted’? In Islam, the acceptance of any act of worship lies with Allah — not with your petty sarcasm. The fact that we can’t ‘guarantee’ what’s accepted doesn’t make it worthless — it makes us humble, unlike your smug certainty that reeks of arrogance.

Second, your comparison is laughable. Whether it’s the janitor who dies in obscurity or a head of state — the point is that everyone returns to Allah alone. Some may get more public prayers because of their position, but that doesn’t add an ounce to their deeds if they were corrupt. That Abacha had crowds at his funeral didn’t buy him an inch of Paradise if he didn’t deserve it.

Instead of obsessing over how many people pray, maybe learn that Islam values the sincerity of a single prayer more than your entire collection of sarcastic comments. Worry less about counting other people’s duas and more about the state of your own soul — because no amount of mockery will change your fate when your time comes.

Ohyoudidnt:
It seems you feel every occurrence is news worthy and makes the news.

Where is it stated that only prayers that make the news or said by sheikh that are granted?

Ohyoudidnt:
Allah authorised the arrangement not rearrangement of the Quran. This was done and passed on in instructions to the prophet who passed it on to his companions.

The reason why and the reason for the other hafs not being easily available is well known by you.

Zaid was asked to collect and compile not rearrange.

The Uthmanic standardization helped to unify the written form and limited recitation to just one harf to avoid any confusion. However, you can still find traces of the Ahruf in the authentic recitations (qiraat).

The ordering of the verses of the Quran was from Allah through Jibril to the prophet pbuh. The Quran was revised between Jibril and the prophet twice

Gabriel used to repeat the recitation of the Qur'an with the Prophet pbuh once a year, but he repeated it twice with him in the year he died. The Prophet pbuh used to stay in I`tikaf for ten days every year (in the month of Ramadan), but in the year of his death, he stayed in I`tikaf for twenty days. Bukhari 4998

The Prophet himself used to instruct the scribes of revelation: ‘Place this verse in the surah which mentions such and such.. (Al-Itqan, Vol 1, pg. 58)

The arrangement of verses and surahs in the Qur’an was done by the Prophet pbuh under divine instruction... It is not permissible to change this order by ijtihād. (Al-Burhan, Vol 1, pg. 259)

Both are revealed and correct showing accepted complementary meanings which do not contradict. These embrace some of the concept of the 7 modes

Ohyoudidnt:
Don't you see how this suits you?

Qur’an 3:78 talks about a group among the People of the Book (namely some Jews and Christians) who intentionally twist their scriptures by using their tongues in such a way that a lie sounds like a truth coming from God. The verse condemns such a deception, where they pretend, “This is from Allah,” but it fact they are not and they give a lie to Allah knowingly. The situation of nearby verses and the primary tafsir agree that this is the reference to certain religious leaders who changed the Torah or the Gospel in order to lead others astray. The verse reaffirms the Qur’an as the source of the authentic revelation and its request to turn away from fabricated distortions.

Ohyoudidnt:
Can you prove the ahrufs weren't relayed by Jibril?

Ohyoudidnt:
The wisdom in how different parts of the Quran were revealed before it's appropriate composition is beyond you or you deliberately try to make a case where there isn't based on what you think should be?

TheJustPath:
Your attempt at cheap mockery only exposes your shallow grasp of Islamic belief and basic human decency. First, who told you prayers are ‘wasted’? In Islam, the acceptance of any act of worship lies with Allah — not with your petty sarcasm. The fact that we can’t ‘guarantee’ what’s accepted doesn’t make it worthless — it makes us humble, unlike your smug certainty that reeks of arrogance.

Second, your comparison is laughable. Whether it’s the janitor who dies in obscurity or a head of state — the point is that everyone returns to Allah alone. Some may get more public prayers because of their position, but that doesn’t add an ounce to their deeds if they were corrupt. That Abacha had crowds at his funeral didn’t buy him an inch of Paradise if he didn’t deserve it.

Instead of obsessing over how many people pray, maybe learn that Islam values the sincerity of a single prayer more than your entire collection of sarcastic comments. Worry less about counting other people’s duas and more about the state of your own soul — because no amount of mockery will change your fate when your time comes.

Ohyoudidnt:
Are you the record keeper of prayers to know who is prayed for? You believe all prayers must be publicised by the media?

TheJustPath:
Your mockery only exposes how little you understand about Islam and how desperate you are to twist anything to fit your hollow narrative. In Islam, no amount of hired prayers, wealth, or worldly power can buy someone Paradise — not for Buhari, not for any king, not even for a Prophet’s own family. Allah says clearly: “And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another.” (Qur’an 6:164). Everyone is judged by their deeds, sincerity, and faith — not by who prays for them out of show or how much they can pay.

Unlike the man-made loopholes you see in corrupt religious structures — where power and money buy “indulgences” or “guaranteed salvation” — Islam shuts that door completely. The Qur’an says: “Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you.” (Qur’an 49:13). Not the richest. Not the most powerful. Not the one with the biggest crowd.

If people gather to pray for someone, it’s not a “guarantee” — it’s a request for Allah’s mercy. But whether that mercy is granted depends on the sincerity of the person’s own faith and deeds. Islam teaches us to pray for the living and the dead because we believe in the power of supplication, not because we believe prayers magically cancel out injustice or corruption if they truly existed.

So instead of mocking, maybe reflect on the fact that in Islam, no one gets a free pass — and every leader, no matter how high they sit in this world, will stand alone before Allah. That’s real accountability. Can you say the same for your own beliefs, where people claim to be “saved” no matter what they do?

Next time, learn the difference between sincere prayer and empty ritual. In Islam, money and titles die at the grave — only deeds live on.

doffman:
🤣 go ask your Paul and co that gave you your corrupted book nah :

Quran 2:79
So woe to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”—seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned.

Where did they keep the original word of Isa ( PBUH)