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Gabrielshow24:
The guy doesn't know what he is talking about!
The Quran isn't logical, if anything at all it was made for primitive men🥲!

Now let's see, how he defends his Allah's shape👀

I have not even finished with him on the shape of Allah first.

Muslims scholars have to rewrite Islam to suit their preferred narrative even when they know that it's all a lie

ALISMILE:
May God punish me if I was never Christian but claiming I once was!

The true God doesn't answer this kind of prayer!

ALISMILE:
Islam is spreading because it’s the only logical religion that provides logical answers to every question, and also because it is the only religion that is able to withstand any objective scrutiny by all the standards

So, logically speaking
1. Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

2. Does Allah then have a shape?

ALISMILE:
The difference between the us and you is that we have facts to back up our argument

You said a lot without giving a single reference to back up your allegations against Islam, and you expect not to be ignored next time!

Let me help you with just one as you are a liar and never converted from Christianity!



Evidences
1. Did Allah create Adam in his own Image?
Yes! Adams face looked like that of Allah and he is probably 60 cubits tall.

Is Adam physical or metaphysical?

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525
He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”

Sahih Muslim 2612 e
This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Abu Huraira and in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Ibn Hatim Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) is reported to have said:
When any one of you fights with his brother, he should avoid his face for Allah created Adam in His own image.

Sahih Muslim 2841
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day.

Note that the resemblance of Adam to Allah was described in terms of Adam's FACE and Adam's HEIGHT


2. Does Allah have a Shape?
Yes! He would appear to you Muslims in another shape after resurrection.


Sahih al-Bukhari 7439
Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, [/b]and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, [b]'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.


Allah even has a Shin by which you will identify him and he will uncover it for you .

Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, "I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire."

3. Does Allah have a form?
Yes! Allah has two right hands
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."




So, tell me if Allah doesn't have a shape. If he has a shape then he is physical!

My God is IN EVERYTHING: this is why He is OMNIPRESENT!

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be almighty?

Lukuluku69:
Of course Allah has a Shape that befits His Majesty.

Allah has eyes that befits His Majesty.

Now, tell me how big was Yahweh backside when Moses saw it

No problem then Allah is a physical being!

I challenge you to show me your precise definition of the word backside for the word doesn't exist in the bible.
Then I can describe it to you!



Unfortunately, Your God seems to be "born" defective as he has two right hands and no left hand. Is this normal for Allah?

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."






Tell me, exactly as your question is:
How long and big are the two right hands of Allah?

Is Allah a woman that he has to put on a veil/hijab to speak to Mohammed?
Is Allah being shy?

Lukuluku69:
Sebi Moses saw Jehovah backside?

How big is it?

The God of the Christians can enter His creation without ceasing to be Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient.

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be almighty?

Why escape the question?

1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

TenQ:
Okay!

Let's pick my first claim then: starting with the Yardstick of determination of truth
1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

@ALISMILE

I can see that ignorance is a bliss for you!
You were NEVER even once a Christian otherwise, you would want knowledge. Stop telling lies about

Please keep it up. Islam is the fastest religion in Mars!

tiswell:
Young man,you go eventually learn...the HARD way!

Unfortunately, I am not a young man.

If you are unmarried at this stage, my children could be older than you.

Learn wisdom:

If you choose wrongly, you can't turn a pig into a cat.
Unfortunately, you will attract the kind of person you are in principle!

luminouz:
Damn....has she cooked for you today or you are the one still cooking your food while being rejected at night after paying a hefty bride price for a non-virgin?

Sorry oh

I married my wife as a sealed virgin unlike the community dump hole you will ever have. She's a faithful child of God who has given me Honour and Respect, Peace and Tranquility , Fun and Friendship, Commitment and Understanding with Love and Affection.

Sorry, my experience has taught me that I did NOT make any mistake by marrying her.

Go make your own choice and 20 years down the line, tell me that you didn't have any regret. Then you would be taken seriously!

Otherwise, bask in your beautiful ignorance!

ALISMILE:
Someone who has facts doesn’t have to act like a child

Facts are stubborn things. It moves you.

Okay!

Let's pick my first claim then: starting with the Yardstick of determination of truth
1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

Ghostagain:
Guys, let us stop replying Tenq. He's incredibly deluded, it's a waste of time.

So, you are even a gang!
SMH!

ALISMILE:
Are you okay?
Evidence that what?
That the Christian west didn’t invade Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya?
They would have since invaded Iran if not for retaliatory destruction

Again,
Do you want me to prove each one AND are you ready to accept facts as I present them?

I made claims, will you accept the truth when I show you ?

Ghostagain:
The russian operation failed, and as a consequence of that failure, Ukrainian soldiers ran away from sudzha and a truce was proposed and now trump is begging for the lives of Ukrainian soldiers who were trapped due to "the failure" of the russian pipeline operation, also the general in charge of the Ukrainian forces in Kursk was rewarded with the sack for his success in the "failure" of the russian operation !

?

Chickensoup:
No. the Russians have been gaining ground. why would you believe they were retreating when the goal was to hold it. the reason for the Kursk operation was to make Russia divert troops but since that didn't work, Zelensky decided to hold it to trade for Ukraine land that Russia occupies. So you see why he fired the general.

In every war, there is what is called tactical withdrawal.

The objective may be to cause massive attrition while withdrawing.

Even Russia performed a tactical withdrawals in the early part of the war .

Didn't Russia withdraw from Kyiv?

luminouz:
Shût dafuq up....simp..

Jesus...I see people like you everyday and you are miserable in your so-called marriage. What has your marital wisdom done for you but make you miserable as your comments portray

Theoretical marriage advisor!

Put your theory to practice first on yourself!

Arapmoi22:
Without US weapons, your uncle is useless.

USA is the fighter.

Trump says, he is tired of free weapons donations.

No problem.
1. A comedian fought Putin a war veteran for three full years!
2. USA has shown that Russia is weak in terms of weapons

nickyvil:
What I'm saying is simple, you don't allow your country to be use to fight a senseless war that could destabilized your country and region, France wanted ecowas to fight niger and by so during it will turn to regional war but because of the backlash from the masses, tinubu stop and use wisdom, now France have no choice than to leave Nigeria. That is wisdom but in Ukraine cos, the president is a fool to have go with western believing through his country, Russia can fall. That is not going to happen. There are countries in Europe that stays neutral and Russian friend. If Ukraine had stat neutral and work with the breakaway city in Ukraine that want to join Russian, there won't have been this senseless war today

There was no other option other than Ukraine become like Belarus at best!

It this what Ukrainians want for themselves?

nickyvil:
Taiwan stays neutral so no reason for China to invade or start war, it will only be unwise for Taiwan to form security alliance that will threaten China , so far it's only doing business with USA. And china encircle Taiwan with warship and aircraft so Taiwan is applying wisdom. Article 5 only works for small country not the big boys, during Biden tenure, there are 2-3 airstrike that entered NATO country territory nothing happened so all those are media talks.

No sir!

Mainland China historically has always claimed that Taiwan is part of China. China needed the Integrated Circuit Electronics technology of Taiwan.
Taiwan is currently having advanced to 2-nanometer chip production while China is still just at 7 nanometers.

This is the main reason China want Taiwan.

Chickensoup:
It's ok to hate a nation however facts should always remain facts.

Of course, you should have checked before mentioning this failed operation!

I am with Ukraine in this calamity caused by Bullying Russia and the failed UN

Chickensoup:
They didn't. Holding Kursk was a bargaining chip for Zelensky that is why he fired the general responsible after Russia took it back.

They did.

They had been withdrawing in the last two weeks

Chickensoup:
Kursk. The Russians used a tunnel and cutoff the Ukrainians from the rear thereby encircling them. I have no idea why you brought the KGB.

No wonder you didn't know that the operation failed and hundreds of Russian soldiers were liquidated

Ghostagain:
1. Knowledge of nuclear technology is not part of a common curriculum of every educated person.
2. You claimed to be a nuclear expert.
3. I didn't bother reading what you got from chatgpt.
4. You are so deluded that you think you are a genius while you are the dumbest person on nairaland.

You reek of ignorance!

ariesbull:
Stop arguement....It is the second-largest country in Europe after Russia, which borders it to the east and northeast.



And also it isn't a our landmass ! UKRIANE isn't even fighting Russia...stop being emotional... NATO is fighting Russia via proxy

If only Ukraine they will not last 3 weeks ....even Trump said it

Is it untrue that A supposed 3 day war is now 3 years!?

And it's the same NATO through Trump that is mediating peace!?

Arapmoi22:
US was the one using Ukraine.

And US is a Nuclear Nation.

Your uncle, the comedian is just a fool who allowed himself to be used.

A comedian fought Putin a war veteran for three full years!

And you call it an achievement!?

Shame!

nickyvil:
In politics and power play, there is nothing like friendly nation, nations fight for their interest, powerful country uses small nation to overthrown a more successful nation because of what they will gain and western us know for that. That is what is happening around the world, from Africa to asian and rest of the world which they won't want the same on their soil. If you say Russia is not friendly with his neighbor , then what is USA business in Taiwan, will you say china too are hostile. What is western problem in Africa. Western are known to create problem through insurgency and will offer to help you which what they want to help you fight against won't be solved yet will sign an agreement which you for your resources. You will never see them in a landlock where there is nothing to gain. I have been studying this and went back to all the past events and you will see that media is a too to deceive the masses

So, France has the right to meddle in the affairs of Nigeria and annex any part of their territory because they are a nuclear power!?

Britain has the right to lay claim to any part of Nigeria because they used to colonise us?

This seems to be what you are saying!

luminouz:
Alaye shût dafuq UP.

Someone dey advice you..you dey behave like werey. That dude has legit points. You need to listen

An unmarried man giving theoretical life advices to married men!?

Oya, I am listening!

Krismas:
The wife and children were never yours. Tell Ukraine to get rid of all their Russian population NOW. Its the best security guarantee from Russia

I am speaking about you

why should you endanger the lives of everyone in your household when you can simply let them have their way with your wife and daughters.

Isn't this your argument.

The armed robber have guns and knives o!

Krismas:
I think u just want to push dis thread
Go listen to Zelensky with Trump again. He admitted the war would have ended in less than a week without American help.
Stupid fake Russian casualty figure

No problem,vthe war could have finished in a week without USA helping Ukraine.

BUT

Russia too got lots of help now. The Saheed Drones from Iran, the Artilleries and Shells from North Korea and even soldiers from North Korea.

nickyvil:
It is a lost battle for USA/Europe, USA are smart enough to see the clearer picture and want to quickly make a deal that will favor them before the war ends. This is not about trump but USA system, trump is just pushing their agenda, now if USA are sure of winning the war, they would have sign the Ukrainian deal with Zelensky, and accept security to set foot in Ukraine and that is what Zelensky want, he want to escalate the way and USA won't risk to loose world power grid just because of a senseless war/leader. USA is smarter and they know the reality on ground.

Trump is stupid enough to destroy NATO for nothing.

Article 5 has been effectively destroyed by Putin and If I was Taiwan, I will start negotiating with China.

What do you think about this?

Arapmoi22:
Keep deceiving yourself.

Russia has taken Luhansk, Donetsk, Bigger part of Zaporizhya, Bigger part of Kherson and Crimea.

You can take your David's catapult to collect it back.

And in three full years of fighting a smaller non-nuclear Ukraine, Russia has not been able to completely take these four Oblasts.


What a shame!?

Ghostagain:
1. Knowledge of nuclear technology is not part of a common curriculum of every educated person.
2. You claimed to be a nuclear expert.
3. I didn't bother reading what you got from chatgpt.
4. You are so deluded that you think you are s genius while you are the dumbest person on nairaland.

Again

If you are ignorant of basic things, announce it by yourself!

These are information that any educated human being should know without being a nuclear expert bro!

Sorry that you are preceded by your illiteracy!

Arapmoi22:
You don't even know that NUKE's are called BIG BOYS even though trump use the slang again last two weeks.

How about challenging those who are armed with fully loaded AK-47 who wants to rape your wife and daughter?

I believe they will run away from you too when you challenge them. Aren't you a Chosen?

Nukes are not catapults you read about in David and Goliath stories bro.

All I know is that every treaty of nuclear non proliferation is a scam. This war has proved it.

Every small nation should invest and get their own nukes if they can.

Ghostagain:
Ukraine didn't want to join NATO, that is why the USA organised a coop against the government of Ukraine in order to put in place USA puppet hardliners who hated Russia and wanted to join NATO.

No sir.

Even up till today, NATO has not voted to accept Ukraine as it's member.