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Ohyoudidnt:
You have a flair for having the same thing repeated isn't it?

Ohyoudidnt:
So you're saying that if Allah can be seen, then maybe He has some form or shape. Muslims do believe that Allah will be seen on the Day of Resurrection, but that doesn’t mean He looks like His creation or has a body like ours.

Ohyoudidnt:
The Prophet (peace be upon him) compared seeing Allah to the clarity and ease of spotting the sun and moon, not in terms of Allah’s appearance. Seeing doesn’t mean being physically similar. Allah Himself states in the Qur’an (42:11), "There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing."

You also mentioned those Hadiths where Allah appears in a way believers don’t recognize at first, and later in a form they do. And that believers will recognize Him by His Shin. These narrations are authentic and widely accepted. Scholars explain that the description of His form and His Shin are qualities of Allah that we affirm without trying to understand how. We accept these descriptions as truths but don’t interpret them to mean Allah has a body or limbs, or that He resembles creation.

Ohyoudidnt:
Just like we acknowledge Allah’s ability to see and hear without needing eyes or ears like ours, we also accept these attributes without trying to picture them. Regarding the Hadith “Allah created Adam in His image,” scholars like Imam Nawawi and even Ibn Taymiyyah clarified that this refers to Adam being made with a complete human form (speech, intellect, dignity) not that Allah looks like Adam or vice versa. Claiming that Allah looks human goes against the core of Islamic belief, which stresses Allah’s absolute uniqueness and that He isn’t like anything in His creation.

Ohyoudidnt:
Saying that your Lord isn’t one-eyed doesn't mean Allah has two eyes like we do. It’s more about clarifying that He’s perfect and doesn’t have any flaws, so there’s no room for confusion about His nature.

Ohyoudidnt:
No need to as my answer is in my earlier response.


Allah is fundamentally different from creation. He isn’t a physical body, isn’t limited by space, and isn’t bound by time. Yet, His knowledge, power, and will are present and effective everywhere.

Ohyoudidnt:
Allah has beautiful names and attributes, like hearing, sight, hand, and mercy. These are mentioned in the Qur’an and Sunnah, but none of them are like anything in creation. Allah is not a body, has no shape, and isn’t limited by space or time. He is above His Throne, so that suits His majesty (Qur’an 20:5). Still, His knowledge, power, will, and commands include everything, even though He isn’t physically inside creation (Qur’an 57:4). This balance shows we affirm His greatness without likening Him to anything human, and acknowledge His transcendence without denying His existence. Allah is above the Throne. The Qur’an describes how The Most Merciful rose over the Throne (Qur’an 20:5). He is exalted above creation, not part of it. Nothing is like Him. There is nothing comparable to Him, and He is all-hearing and all-seeing (Qur’an 42:11). His attributes are unique and do not resemble human body parts. And no matter where you are, He is with you (Qur’an 57:4). His knowledge and power are everywhere, but His essence isn’t limited to space. He knows everything – He is all-knowing (Qur’an 2:282). Knowledge surrounds all places, but His presence isn’t bodily. Some of His attributes like hand, eye, and shin are mentioned in the Qur’an (Qur’an 38:75, 20:39, 68:42). We affirm these without asking how, and without making them like human parts, or denying their reality. Imam Malik explained that when it comes to His rising (istiwa), we believe in it, accept that we don’t understand how, and avoid questioning it as an innovation. Belief is essential, and asking details about it is not correct.

Ohyoudidnt:
No need to as my answer is in my earlier response.


Allah is fundamentally different from creation. He isn’t a physical body, isn’t limited by space, and isn’t bound by time. Yet, His knowledge, power, and will are present and effective everywhere.

Allah is fundamentally different from creation. He isn’t a physical body, isn’t limited by space, and isn’t bound by time.

Yet, His knowledge, power, and will are present and effective everywhere. So yes, Allah can act on earth while being above the heavens, without being in two places like a creature, because nothing compares to Him (Qur'an 42:11).

Gabrielshow24:
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They just like to blame Paul, which by the way they affirm👀 as one of them. People caught on to their discrepancies hence the standard narrative of other books being corrupted. Till now, they haven't showed us one Jew that worshipped Ezra. 👀

Ohyoudidnt:
Allah is the ultimate source of everything. He may create through various means, like how humans come up with inventions such as iPhones, but at the end of the day, He is the true Creator behind it all.

When the angels declared, We will destroy this place,they were acting as messengers on God’s behalf, not as independent forces; the destruction ultimately came from Yahweh. This aligns with the Qur'an, which teaches that while Jibril conveyed Allah’s words, he did not originate them.

In a similar vein, when Moses parted the sea by raising his hand, it was God who truly split the waters. There’s no contradiction here; it’s all about divine action through chosen agents.

Allah is fundamentally different from creation. He isn’t a physical body, isn’t limited by space, and isn’t bound by time. Yet, His knowledge, power, and will are present and effective everywhere. So yes, Allah can act on earth while being above the heavens, without being in two places like a creature, because nothing compares to Him (Qur'an 42:11).

Therefore, it’s misguided to mock the role of agents like angels in God’s plans or to impose human limitations on how the Creator operates. The consistent message in both the Bible and the Qur’an is clear: God commands, angels execute, but only God holds the true power.

Ohyoudidnt:
Well you should expantiate as Genesis 19:13 tells us that angels were the ones who destroyed Sodom, but then in 19:24, it says that the Lord Himself rained down fire.

What’s even more puzzling is the phrase that suggests the Lord rained from the Lord, which makes it sound like there are two Lords involved, leading to more confusion.

In verse 19:13, it mentions that the Lord sent the angels to destroy the city, while verse 19:24 states that the LORD rained brimstone and fire upon Sodom and Gomorrah from the LORD out of heaven.

These kinds of contradictions and vague wording can really lead to misunderstandings about who God is and what His role is in these events.

Ohyoudidnt:
Well you should expantiate as Genesis 19:13 tells us that angels were the ones who destroyed Sodom, but then in 19:24, it says that the Lord Himself rained down fire.

What’s even more puzzling is the phrase that suggests the Lord rained from the Lord, which makes it sound like there are two Lords involved, leading to more confusion.

In verse 19:13, it mentions that the Lord sent the angels to destroy the city, while verse 19:24 states that the LORD rained brimstone and fire upon Sodom and Gomorrah from the LORD out of heaven.

These kinds of contradictions and vague wording can really lead to misunderstandings about who God is and what His role is in these events.

SeeWahala:
Link or proof of such facts please 🤡

Because I can mention some people who came out openly to say that during the years your tilumbu said he attended that school they never saw or knew anybody like him. These people who made such statements are still alive today mind you

Gabrielshow24:
Quite false and misleading. God gave his Son, the fullness of God, to us. Also, appealing to Tertullian also grants his other debilitating remarks to your JW doctrine. I for one don't hold such appeals! Some time ago you brought up some footnote commentaries to prove that "spirit of trees" were angels😂!

Expanse2020:
We all know Christianity was based lies so don't let robb salt to your injuries🤣🤣🤣


Answer the question and let move to another one
Show us where the bible or your God said he created you in Trinity
Or Jesus was created in Trinity

Ken4Christ:
Good day friend. I disagree with a point you made concerning persecution of Christians alongside with the Jews. Their persecutions will be separate. I have been trying to get the church understand this truth for some years now but it seems not to be sinking into our spirit because of what we have been taught over the years.

Immediately after the rapture of the church, the saints of the present day church will face severe persecutions. But the persecution will not come from the antichrist for he will not be revealed Immediately.

God's dealing with the Jews will only commence when God is through with the present church age - Romans 11:25-26.

The persecution of Christians is revealed in Revelation, chapter 7:9-16.

That of the Jews is Revelation 13 and there are unknown years in between the two events

I will write on a very detailed book concerning this very soon. May the Lord grant us understanding.

Truvelisback:
Thanks for insightful input.

Truvelisback:
Good day, fellas. Let's discuss the Phases of the endtime e.g Rapture(a sudden take up to heaven), Great tribulation, heaven, hell, lake of fire, Millenium reign with Christ etc.

CreativeOrbit:
Your claims are sloppy, theologically confused, and easy to shred. Let’s do it quickly.

1) “Tawḥīd isn’t in the Qur’an”

The word “Trinity” isn’t in your Bible either, yet you build your entire creed on it. The doctrine of Tawḥīd (pure, absolute oneness of God) is spelled out all over the Qur’an:

“Say: He is Allah, One (Aḥad). Allah, the Self‑Sufficient… He begets not, nor is He begotten, and none is comparable to Him.” (Qur’an 112:1‑4)

“Your God is One God (Ilāhun Wāḥid).” (Qur’an 2:163)

“We did not send any messenger before you except that We revealed to him that there is no deity but Me, so worship Me.” (Qur’an 21:25)

Tawḥīd is the air the Qur’an breathes. Pretending it “doesn’t exist” only exposes that you haven’t read the text you’re attacking.

CreativeOrbit:
2) “Jesus is co‑creator of life with Allah”

False. The Qur’an explicitly limits his miracle to Allah’s permission:

“…I create for you out of clay the form of a bird, then I blow into it and it becomes a bird by Allah’s permission.” (Qur’an 3:49)

“…you created from clay as it were the figure of a bird by My permission…” (Qur’an 5:110)

“By Allah’s permission” ≠ “co‑Creator”. It proves the opposite of what you’re claiming: Jesus is not independent, Allah is.

CreativeOrbit:
3) “Jesus is uniquely born without a father”

Miraculous birth ≠ divinity. Adam had no father and no mother. The Qur’an levels the point bluntly:

“The likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him ‘Be,’ and he was.” (Qur’an 3:59)

If a fatherless birth makes Jesus God, what does no parents at all make Adam?

CreativeOrbit:
4) “Jesus is the only ‘spirit from Allah’”

The Qur’an says Allah breathed of His spirit into Adam (32:9; 15:29) — and humanity generally. “Rūḥun minhu” is an honorific attribution, not ontological divinity. Everything is “from Allah” (creation, mercy, rain, revelation). That doesn’t make everything Allah.

CreativeOrbit:
5) “Jesus is the only ‘Word’ of Allah”

Again, you’re ripping the phrase from its Qur’anic meaning. “His Word” means created by His command “Be” (Kun) — not a divine, eternal Logos becoming flesh (that’s your Hellenized theology, not ours). See Qur’an 4:171; 3:45; 16:40.

CreativeOrbit:
6) Your own citation (22:73) backfires

Qur’an 22:73 proves no one creates independently of Allah. Exactly. Which is why every miracle of Jesus is explicitly chained to “by Allah’s permission.” You just cited a verse that destroys your thesis.

Bottom line

Tawḥīd is everywhere in the Qur’an; your Bible doesn’t even contain the word “Trinity”, nor does Jesus ever say “I am God, worship me.”

Jesus’ miracles prove he’s a messenger empowered by Allah, not a co‑equal God.

Adam’s creation and the “spirit from Him” language show your “uniqueness” claims are theologically hollow.

Stop projecting your confused Christology onto Islam. The Qur’an is consistent: Allah alone is the Creator, Absolute, without partner. Jesus (ʿĪsā) عليه السلام is His servant, word, and prophet — not His equal.

WritterNg:
Bring proof of Putin saying it'll be a 3 weeks operation?

WritterNg:
Keep wallowing in Ignorance.

Ukraine has done forced mobilization more than 6 times. Even reduced the age of conscription to below 18. They've ran through teenagers now they're coming for grandpas.

The fact we don't report it, doesn't mean it isn't happening. You have the internet, make use of it.

Chilipepper:
Can a woman get her kids ready for school without shouting? Please recommend ways to do it for me because my wife shouts too much.

Ohyoudidnt:
Trinity that isn't exactly expressed in the Bible?

Ohyoudidnt:
You selectively read the verse in the Quran?

And on Judgment Day˺Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour upon you and your mother: how I supported you with the holy spirit so you spoke to people in your infancy and adulthood. How I taught you writing, wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel. How you moulded a bird from clay by My Will and breathed into it and it became a real bird by My Will. How you healed the blind and the lepers by My Will. How you brought the dead to life by My Will. How I prevented the Children of Israel from harming you when you came to them with clear proofs and the disbelievers among them said, “This is nothing but pure magic.”


You vehemently disregarded by my will (Allah's will).

Ohyoudidnt:
Jesus may perform the physical acts, but he isn't the one who created everything. The true source of all creation, in a divine sense, is Allah alone. He bestowed the miracle upon Jesus as a sign, not as a way to prove divinity.

Enough has been said.

Expanse2020:
[/quote]Were the others animals created in trinity too...
Birds goats, Lions are they in Trinity
Tree also were they in Trinity too
Ask and you shall be given requisite knowledge.
Nothing else in Creation is created as a Trinity!
Not even Angels or Demons!






[quote author=Expanse2020 post=136224167]. So you actually believed that our prophet travel to paradise... Ma sha Allah atleast you said the truth for the first time 🤔[/b]

WriterNig:
🇺🇸 US House Of Rep MJ Taylor Greene posted;


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AntiChristian:
The number of sects are as the Prophet said. And your Sunni- Shia classification is too watery! Where do you put the Khawarij sect where Boko haram come from? What about the Mu'tazilah sect! And others that can't be classified as either Sunni or Shia!

I still think you are largely unelightened in your subject of arguement!

AntiChristian:
"Sects" and "denominations" are difficult to understand for a bigoted mind! You should polish your brain and do some more findings on those two words!

I have no time for petty minds!

Ohyoudidnt:
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SonOfWords:
It's befuddling how a staunch propaganda tool for local politics, who has consistently shown him/herself of lacking empathy and consciousness to human plights, can suddenly find the audacity to function as the moral compass for geopolitical affairs that ordinary shouldn't even concern you🤡.

Revealpanda:
I'm not a fan but this just proves you don't need education to make it in life.

One might ask... So why are those with good grades and 1st class not in power?
They aren't willing to do what this olodo is willing to do to climb to the top

SonOfWords:
E reach Israel turn, semantics don dey enter your submissions . Intentionally target civilians una! You go dey alright.