₦airaland Forum

lati23:
Haba!
One good suggestion and someone goes on to call me a cretin.
It's unfortunate that we go out of our ways to make other people feel bad.
However texazzpete, am better than all the members of your family put together.
That won't stop me from baring my mind about the use of Okada on our roads.
I make use of the Okada when i have to.
It's fast and convenient but that doesn't make me a fan.

At least every single member of my family knew the difference between 'am' and 'I'm' before their 10th birthday.

The credit for the Amnesty programme should go solely to Yar'Adua.

collins Jn:
“For the Islamic economy and for
the world, only a return to the
gold standard will ensure long
term price stability (zero
inflation) , help governments
curtail budget deficits and end
fiscal indiscipline,” he said.
“For the Islamic economy and for
the world, only a return to the
gold standard will ensure long
term price stability (zero
inflation) , help governments
curtail budget deficits and end
fiscal indiscipline,” he said.

Diz Man Self,MUST He Say Any Tin witout Islamic diz Islamic day ? Hiss,Am Out Of Here

He was addressing a conference themed on Islamic Banking and Finance. What did you expect him to be talking about, Pokemon? Hello Kitty?
Too many dense people on Nairaland.

When you consider the huge population of people in Lagos, the low income of the majority of the residents there, the serious traffic congestion and the plethora of narrow, twisted inner roads, you'll have to conclude that only a cretin would call for a ban on Okada right now.

People really should put themselves in others shoes when coming up with these 'bright ideas'.

So happy to see 4llerbuntu rock something more modern than his decaying N900

EzeUche:
You are a fool to believe that this section tribalism begins with me. I started posting on Nairaland in 2010.

Tribalism has been present on Nairaland since the beginning so do not blame someone who only defended his tribe as it was bashed since Nairaland was created.

I dun tire for people like you who turn a blind eye to your own brothers who committed worse acts than someone who simply defends his people. It is called fighting fire with fire. You hypocritical bastarrd.

Which 'brothers'? Have you ever seen anyone from my state come here to spew nonsense?
Whether you joined in 2010 is immaterial. You are one of the people who eagerly spread this divisive bile here on Nairaland.

EzeUche:
A thread created by a non-Igbo whose topic deals with an Igbo leader who is cherished by his people.

We already know the OP's motive for posting this thread on this bigoted section of Nairaland. 

As if you're not one of the people responsible for turning this section of Nairaland to a tribalist battleground.

Some of us remember how this section used to be before you people started spreading your ethnic superiority filth.

Seun:
How can you price be lower than the official apple store price?

Because it's now been superseded by the 2011 MacBook airs that came out last week. The new ones ship with OSX Lion, now come with backlit keyboard, have core i5 processors that are nearly twice as fast and are more easily upgradeable.
Nobody in their right mind will buy this 2010 model now for anything close to the $999 price of the 2011 model.

That said, 135k Isnt a bad price.

[quote author=soft-touch link=topic=125097.msg8779646#msg8779646 date=1311523089]Which means Nigerian will be downloading Apple applications with ATM Electronic Card (Visa & MasterCard brand) with Naira denomination.

This is good news, I wonder which of our GSM Operator Apple will sign as Official Carrier.
Whichever Operator, let it be either MTN, or Glo, let Airtel go sleep with her snail-speed internet service.[/quote]Yeah, this probably means the next iPhone could be launched officially in Nigeria by one or more of the major carriers.

EzeUche:
We do not want Islamic banking in Nigeria.

You aren't a muslim

When you have Christian leaders telling the dominant religion in Nigeria that the name of their religion is 'poison', what else do you expect?

Answer me this SIMPLE question: If it is called 'Islamic Banking' all over the world and then suddenly in Nigeria Christian leaders are demanding it be called something else, is it not going to cause intense suspicion and resentment in the Muslim community in Nigeria? Is it not tantamount to OFFICIAL acceptance and propagation of the 'muslim = terrorist' stereotype?

The same people that were claiming Buhari made inciting comments are the ones keeping mum while the CAN folk have made these sort of unwise statements. Now we're in the escalation stage. Let's hope we don't all suffer for this.

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EzeUche:
Weapons are plentiful in Somalia, but there is no food. I do not understand that. Wouldn't it be cheaper to have food than weapons?

You can buy an AK47 for $40 on the black market in Somalia. You'll use it for years. So it's definitely cheaper to buy a gun.

The Western world and the UN are the only entities trying to deliver food to the Somalis, but they are prevented from doing so by the Al Shabaab millitants.
This is why I'm convinced the African Union is a thoroughly useless organization. They have done NOTHING at all to help the situation.

jmaine:
That would be a laudable move by CAN . . .but the proponent of a project or regulation is most likely the initiator of a dialogue session or submit to educate and clear all doubts partaining to it's commision . . . not that am hinging on the fact that it must be Sanusi initiative . . . CAN can as well do the noble task of inviting Sanusi for crucial clear the air discussions . . . The main issue we are having here is a function personality friction . . . Pastor Oritsejafor is not your docile and diplomatic CAN president . . He tells you the way it is . . .and Sanusi is equally an head strong,very confident man carrying about his affairs in a macho style . . . Someone has to reach out to the other which is a fact . . .it could either be Oritsejafor or Sanusi . . But someone must def initiate it . . . And since Sanusi is the accused for now . . He has a lot to do to quell such negative vibes against him . . .so the onus is on him to reach out to others . . . . .

And by the way,are regulations not meant to be in place before licences are issued . . . Cos as an operator you need to know what is required of you before you apply for a licence . . . Or could it be the same paranoia symptoms

Islamic banking is in operation in many countries around the world. Why should Sanusi start looking for CAN to dialogue with them on an issue that really should generate no heat?
All the man is doing is to issue concrete guidelines, finishing the work Soludo started.
I don't understand why you call Sanusi the 'accused'. Let the person who tells the whole world that Sanusi has an 'ethnic or religious agenda' be the one on the hot seat.

Sanusi's job is to oversee CBN and Nigeria's banking system. He is not there to placate everyone. Oritsejafor's job is to ensure he represents the interests of Christians in Nigeria. Sanusi says Islamic banking is not a big deal, Oritsejafor says it is. Sorry, but in this instance, it's clear that the person who considers this to be a huge deal is the one who should be making more efforts to secure an exhaustive dialogue session.

BIGER BOY:
and if i may ask why cant CAN just invite the CBN governor am sure he will gladly accept the iv

God bless you jo!

@Jmaine
Oya, what is stopping CAN from inviting Sanusi to discuss the merits, demerits and issues surrounding Islamic banking? Why has Oritsejafor not moved to set a date for dialogue instead of running to the press all the time?
Someone is more interested in appearing publicly to be a dogged and relentless fighter for Christian issues instead of doing the actual job?

lol
Your prices are a good 30k above Computer village prices. 'Selling fast'? I laugh in hispanic

jmaine:
Since Sanusi has not said anything to the contrary despite his recent jibes at the CAN clerics . . .then Pastor Ayo explanations remains valid by default . . .

Sanusi told the legislators that he had tried to reach out to the CAN leadership. So his words still stand.

jmaine:
Reading that article is subjective , Me sef read am and there were salients questions he asked that requires answers for the proponents of this banking principle . . with Sanusi the chief proponent . . .The reps would have dished out some of those questions other than being bamboozled to submission    . . his hypnosis was so strong . . .he earned a resounding applause from people who were supposed to scrutinize whatever he said    . .  Did they get so fed up with his lecture or terminologies that they were itching to go home to their affluence banked on fraud and waste . . so his ending was a relief to them akin to a boring speaker (Subjective to intellectually low minds) who receives a resounding applause from his indifferent listeners as a form of saying thank you for not wasting our time any longer    . . .

This is double speak o! The legislators had already agreed to close early for that day to mourn their colleague. On one hand you side with Oritsejafor that not even an important chance to assail Sanusi with questions was more important than sticking to schedule, then you turn around and excoriate the Reps for sticking to their schedules too.
Bros be consistent  

I must say I am enjoying this discussion with you. It's such a shame one of your intelligence is falling prey to this unneccessary paranioa, but we will see if you cannot yet be saved  

Ucheosefoh:
I love it it is time to teach majority northernes hausa/fulani that the minority northernes are not fools and to beat them in thier own very game

It will only get a lot of people killed. mainly Christians.
Once it starts, expect to see lots of coverage on Al Jazeera. Then expect to see lots more 'offers' from Al Qaeda to 'free' their brothers. Then you'll see how safe you are even in Lagos.

Seriously, why do you guys never focus on the big picture?

Really stu'pid people. Now the shit is really gonna hit the fan for this.

If you people truly want to keep religion out of State matters, then please go and demand that our tax money is not used to send people to Mecca or Jerusalem.
Also, if not for religious sentiments, why are Churches exempt from tax in Nigeria?

Perhaps we should even legalize homosexuality sef. afterall, it's only our religious values that makes us abhor this act, is it not?

jmaine:
You imported your prejudice here . . .the rule of the game is to debunk claims with available references/sources for authenticity . . . I put up the link to avoid forum members labelling it a lie, due to no link to buttress my point . . . Sanusi lied  that he invited them for a hearing and they declined . . . The people he accused said such never happened . .they were already scheduled to have a meeting with their unique agenda to be discussed . . .Sanusi felt he could gate crash in there to truncate their meeting just to say what he had to say .  . . .and they said no . .sorry, we have an agenda already for the meeting, and provisions for you can't be accommodated now . . .But what did Lord Sanusi do . . .he twisted the story so that people can  caress him and say well done . . .

[size=11pt]So are you trying to tell me in clear terms that while in the middle of a presumed important meeting . . Sanusi impromptu demands should have sailed through . . . and for what reasons  must that occur . . . . Why did he have to twist the episode to curry false sympathy  to himself . . .and the vocal Sanusi i know would have punctured Oritsejafor claims if they were lies . . .You simply need to accept it when someone fails himself like he did when he lied   . . .   There is simply no excuse for you to cover this lie by terming it hear say   . . .

As i said before, all we have to go by now is Oritsejafor's word. I do not trust him implicitly so I cannot swallow his story hook, line and sinker.

One important fact from his largely uninspiring ramble is that the CBN HQ and the CAN secretariat are next door to each other. If Islamic banking was such a critical issue to him and his 'constituency', why has he not troubled himself to set up an appointment and walk across for a visit to discuss all the issues?

He certainly has no issue with going over to Aso Rock to hobnob with the President.

Read his interview. Not only does he display a thorough lack of understanding on the basic facts concerning Islamic banking as a concept and execution around the world, it's clear he does not understand how he himself is injecting ordinary Nigerians with paranoia.

kITA TITA:
I think he did well handling the Minimum Wage issue. He remained Presidential throughout. Quality of the FEC in core areas of the economy is also good; attracting Ngozi and Prof Nnaji and retaining Labaran Maku, who informs the citizenry about government programs without making a noise about it. He has also done well in foreign policy. Boko Haram; I'll say neither here nor there but that's an extension of the challenging security environment in the country. I will score him low on cost of governance and anti-corruption.
Overall, I think he is not a noisy president and I respect him for that.  I didn't vote for him but  he has done more than I could ever give him credit for.

If GEJ has surpassed your expectations, then you have to question yourself.
His handling of the minimum wage issue was abysmal! Did it escape your attention that he finally bowed to reason just 4 hours to a major strike?

Boko Haram, 'neither here nor there'?! I don't blame you sha, you sit down in Lagos and so all the reports of death and destruction you read in the papers are just statistics.

all4naija:
^^^^ Tolerance is an issue as well.

It amazes me how Muslims are now asking to be tolerant when they are not.

I wish everybody can associate without bringing religion into it.

Well, many Christians aren't 'tolerant' too.
This brouhaha over Islamic banking shows this fact clearly. The constant verbal persecution of African traditional religion worshippers is another case.
People parade the streets, using megaphones to preach at 3 am in the night on a work night. is that tolerance? A large percentage of churches in Lagos are built in residential neighbourhoods. These same churches proceed to hold very loud Night vigils on wednesdays, keeping people awake. is that tolerance too?

all4naija:
Why now? If not that you people want to cause more chaos in the country.

For the last time, simpleton, I am a Christian.
You cretins see the world only in black and white. In your simple minds, as long as someone defends Sanusi, that person is a Muslim. Rubbish!

We have since begged you folk to show us how Islamic banking will cause more chaos in the country. Where are the facts? What analogies can you share?

Empty, paranoia infested barrels.

jmaine:
Enough of your silly insinuations . . . For your information . . .a look at your amiable Sanusi lying just to achieve his objective . .


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/newsonthehour/2011/july/09/newsbreak-09-07-2011-001.html

At this stage, it's all hearsay. I have no reason to trust anyone over the other.

You should not have put that link up. Now people are exposed to how incoherent and aimless Oritsejafor really sounds.
People like Ayo oritsejafor are the ones that are causing the heat, drama and paranoia in the system. If Sanusi really offered to walk into the 'lion's den' and discuss with them, why did he turn down the offer? If Islamic banking really is such a threat to them, why would he miss out on an opportunity to dig further down on Sanusi's strategy?

Funny how the same man was urging the arrest of Buhari for making 'inciting comments' yet he's the one inciting the biggest wave of religious paranoia in Nigeria since the electoral violence.

emmatok:
Can you imagine Muslims telling Christians to be tolerant. LWKMD

Does Anglican, Presbyterian, Deeper Life, Christ Embassy, Redeemed and others have their own banks.

Guy your analysis is wrong , Anglican, Presbyterian, Deeper Life, Christ Embassy, Redeemed and others are[b] all Christians.[/b]

The Issues is between religion and not denominations

If Islamic bank should exit, then all other religion(Christians, Animist, Buddhism e.t.c) should have their own banking system.

Before the advent of Christianity, Islam and western banking system.

Was our forefathers not buy and selling?

Islamic Banking is not there because 'the muslims want their own bank'.

The quran frowns upon interest banking and funding of establishments that are seen to be impure (i.e Gambling houses). This is the type of banking the conventional banks practice and as such is an ethical and moral issue for many devout muslims.
Islamic banking is practiced in many countries around the world, it's a non-interest banking model without discrimination in the religion of their clients, as long as the banking done is not contrary to Islamic ethics.

Christianity does not explicitly frown on interest charging. Right from the days of the Crusades, the powerful Popes and to the modern day, the Church has seen no major qualms with conventional banking. There is no need now to start haggling over 'Christian banking' as if suddenly you will be marginalized when it kicks off.

I hate these petty arguments with a passion.

He has to go find himself another punching bag now

Apple iTunes and app store now officially comes to Nigeria

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afolayangs:
Sanusi is no doubt BH boy. Will Islamic banking creat jobs, improve nigeria imagine, add τ̅☺ our GDP, ensure even distribution of income etc. Sanusi our renowed economist pls answer

So you're asking if the establishment of new banks will create jobs?

You've got to be the biggest cretin on Nairaland, I swear.

akinnux:
One question that kept bordering my mind is will the proposed Islamic Banks employ Christian among their staff? Somebody should please educate me.

Read the Guardian link. Sanusi said:

"the guidelines issued by the CBN for the operation of Islamic banking stipulated that no form of discrimination would be allowed in terms of employment, structure and transaction"

So yes, Christians can seek employment in Islamic banks or banks that operate Islamic finance divisions. Also Christians can obtain loans and financing from Islamic banks.