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Jobs/VacanciesRe: Mainstreet Bank Graduate Interview by TheBeam(m): 9:30am On Mar 20, 2013
Tetegh: @ Audinowing & the Beam, how was it yers'day, wats the nature of the questions?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Mainstreet Bank Graduate Interview by TheBeam(m):
Audinowing: The Beam re u the tall huge guy or the guy with a black tie?
Tall? Huge? NO OH! No let Boko Haram hear u oh. Black suit, blue shirt, striped tie. Now which of the candidates were u?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Mainstreet Bank Graduate Interview by TheBeam(m): 7:43am On Mar 20, 2013
fingerfoodco: Hello Everyone, Please how did the interview go? Can you pls give me the details of what to expect? I'm scheduled for an interview on the 21st of March. Thank you.
Just a bunch of questions about you and your suitability for the position. You might need to remember your WAEC result too as it most definitely will be discussed. Apart from that, it's all simple questions based on your knowledge of current happenings and your ability to add value to them.

Cheers.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Mainstreet Bank Graduate Interview by TheBeam(m): 10:38am On Mar 19, 2013
Are you here now?

I'm here as well.

Which of the Twelve candidates are you
Nairaland General3 Things We Learnt From Oga At The Top!!! by TheBeam(op): 7:28am On Mar 17, 2013
3 THINGS MY OGA AT D TOP TAUGHT US!!

Nigerians are TIRED of being led by FOOLS!

Nigerian youths are averagely JOBLESS and unhappy: that's why any distraction is enough to stir a buzz among us!

Nigerians no longer need TV reporters or analysts or press secretaries to tell us what we to think, we are quite capable of forming our own opinions now! I'm sure the Channels TV presenters won't believe their luck when they saw how we interpreted and responded to the interview!

Dear OGA JONA AT THE TOP, before u ask Dame 2 start telling us about widows again, kindly take note of these points.THATZALL

VIVA Nigeria, Next stop......ASO ROCK!

PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 7:45am On Mar 15, 2013
My luv!:
Can you confirm the documented engine trouble? Anyways, it is still lawful to clear an aircraft with some known deficiencies to fly as stipulated by the law.
So, if you are claiming the recorded deficiency caused both engines of the aircraft to fail, then I suggest you come open so to help lessen the burden on the investigators.

Do you still have in memory the stated reason for his sack? What where the unanswered questions and when were the said questions asked? What a reason!

I still maintain it's purely politics. Giving the dog a bad name.......
Pal, u keep missing the point! A machine in good working order will never fail and the fail-safe fail too at once. Two good kidneys without a history of steady alchohol abuse can't suddenly fail! It's d "alchohol abuse" Monsieur Demuren was fired for.

Let him challenge the decision in court if he indeed ensured all regulations were complied with cos it'll be a wrongful termination of appointment and a crt can get him reinstated. Did I hear a "God knows best" there?

His silence alone is indicting sef
Car TalkRe: Governor Akpabio Buys Bullet-Proof Mercedes-Benz Vans - PICTURES by TheBeam(m): 7:39am On Mar 15, 2013
Seun: Do you think God works that way?


Whose money did Murtala Muhammad squander before he was assassinated? All politicians, corrupt or not, need good security. sad
So what do u advise now dear friend, bulletproof houses, clothes, even househelps just to make sure our politicians are safe? Make the skies over their heads bullet proof too. Their kidneys, lungs, livers, colons, prostrate glands also? Where does this amazing waste of mny stop?

Spending what is equal to the per capita income of almost half of Nigeria (at least a million dollars as reported) on *GOOD* PERSONAL SECURITY, (dare I say a security that's not even threatened) when the vast majority of the state and nation remains under-developed is plain senseless and unjustified.

Sometimes, God does work that way if the oppression of the common gets too much u can check history. There's no definitive cap on what God can or cannot do to right wrongs and u'll do well to note this for future purposes before commenting on God like u're a consultant.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 6:19am On Mar 14, 2013
My luv!:
He's no DG of any NCCA, he is the DG of NCAA. Repeating this mistake severally in your posts gives you away as being too ignorant to judge a case like this.
Secondly, your deductions are not complete, and therefore can pass as null and void!
Your statement: "Was there a breach of regulations that led to the DANA crash? Yes, SEVERAL!" Did I hear you say NCAA? Then you must have time traveled into the future to confirm that.
NCCA/NCAA? Oh well, my mistake.

And like I said earlier, u're entirely missing the point, This is NOT about me or my knowledge of NCAA, or indeed my relationship with Mr. Demuren. This is a simple matter of failure in corporate governance and breach of basic HSE principles and I don't have to be a consultant to NCAA for my common sense to deduce if there has been a breach or not.

Attacking my credibility based on the correct (or in this case incorrect) name of the parastatal is off track and typing the incorrect abbreviation of the name doesn't in any way prove the submission of an ethical breach wrong. Nor does it in any way constitute irrefutable proof of lack of knowledge of the organization (Note: knowledge that's not even needed to pass an informed opinion on a simple matter as basic precaution)

Do I have to know all about Julius Berger to be able to tell that if they don't take strict steps to ensure all workers and visitors in their yards are aPproproately kitted safely according to standards, then they are liable if an accident happens in said yard as a result of this breach?

Well now, it's up to Mr. Demuren to challenge the termination in a competent court and explain why he's not liable for the administrative lapses that allowed an aircraft with documented engine trouble take-off from an airport where NCAA has oversight function of preventing exactly things like this. Is that complete enough?
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 6:00am On Mar 14, 2013
My luv!:
Yes, for the records, he has been outstanding before and after the Dana incident. He has maintained quite an excellent record in terms of safety oversight functions in the Nigeria aviation sector. An accident can happen even when all necessary precautions are being taken... I'm sure you know what a human error is. You talk like you know exactly what caused the Dana incident, or are you being (mis)informed by someone? Do not slander
, God does not take it lightly.
Have you known he in 1995, was "forced" into
retirement as Director Safety Services because of his strict adherent to
Safety after a Government "restructuring"
exercise. And ten years later, he was appointed the DG? Pls be sure of who to blame, it takes an ignorant to cast blames to the wrong person.
Have a nice day
You are entirely missing the point. This' not about his records or qualification, it's a question of did he do anything wrong this time or not?

Accidents happen? Yes they do.

Even when all necessary precautions were taken? Of course, That's what qualifies them as *accidents*

What if the basic precautions taken were less than 100%? Then they become avoidable disasters that could have easily been prevented.

Consider a doctor who has been performing successful brain surgery for years, the very first day he endangers a patient by operating with his bare hands not covered by surgical gloves and in the process complicates the patient's condition thereby leading to his death, IT IS THAT SAME DAY he'll face the medical board for malfeasance and explain why he should retain his license. Never mind his sterling track record.

And in the same vein the CMD of the facility too is liable for administrative negligence if it appears from the evidence on ground that there was no system in place to check against this fundamental breach of professional ethics (and from all appearances in the DANA crash, it does appear that way). The onus is on Demuren now to prove he did have a working system in place to check against the type of breach in safety rules that led to DANA crash and the airline+pilot with their actions expressly breached all due process and misled officials in a way that increased vigilance would not have mattered.

See when you work with human lives, it's as much an enviable career as well as risky. You have to stay sharp at all times such that if accidents happen, it won't be as a result of what you could have done and didn't do or what u weren't supposed to do and u did.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 12:25am On Mar 13, 2013
texazzpete: So what you're saying is, you've gone to the future, seen the report of the Dana air crash investigation and it fingers the NCAA head abi?

Nah, I thought not. You're just blowing hot air out of your arse.
Don't need to go into the future pal. This is simple deductive reasoning.

Was he head of NCCA? Yes

Is NCCA responsible for regulating airline operations? Yes

Was there a breach of regulations that led to the DANA crash? Yes, SEVERAL!

Was any appropriate step taken to correct said breach and avert disaster? NO, unfortunately.

Is he culpable for the brazen breach in regulations that occurred under his watch? VERY!

There you have it, that's common sense and objectivity for you. Anything less than that is partisan.


Sacking him is actually a good way of reducing the culpability and liability of the govt. in a lawsuit.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 6:27pm On Mar 12, 2013
Gbawe.:
You make some very good points but many parts of your arguments are speculative at best. No one is telling you "certs and books" make Demuren the best option. The fact is that his academic and professional talent, to cover the holy grail of solution provision that solidifies reputations, is not in doubt and should not be disparaged by any sensible person. I don't know why he was sacked but we cannot just assume it is because he goofed. We are seeing evidence, daily , that this is a President who will move against anyone perceived a threat to his direct or affiliated political interest.

You ask yourself what Allison-Madueke has made of our Petroleum sector if not mired it in sleaze and corruption to the extent David Cameron had to publicly ask the GEJ government to account for the trillions received through the sector in recent years with Nigeria having nothing to show for that vast amount. After the latest episode of Allison-Madueke making a fool of Nigeria with her open compromise of the Ribadu Petroleum task force, tell me who is more deserving of a sacking in Nigeria than that Lady. Also, we all remember Azazi being sacked after he claimed the PDP was behind Boko Haram. Those are the sort of observations that tell many this is not a President who hires, fires or retain appointees purely on merit and principles. If some now question his motives for sacking Demuren, then they have solid reasons to do so because analytically intelligent people can only make inference from the consistent behaviour of others. If a well-known unrepentant kleptomaniac, would it be wrong for me to assume you may have stolen the watch you are wearing on your ankle instead of your wrist?
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 6:26pm On Mar 12, 2013
Gbawe.:
You make some very good points but many parts of your arguments are speculative at best. No one is telling you "certs and books" make Demuren the best option. The fact is that his academic and professional talent, to cover the holy grail of solution provision that solidifies reputations, is not in doubt and should not be disparaged by any sensible person. I don't know why we he was sacked but we cannot just assume it is because he goofed. We are seeing evidence, daily , that this is a President who will move against anyone perceived a threat to his direct or affiliated political interest.

You ask yourself what Allison-Madueke has made of our Petroleum sector if not mired it in sleaze and corruption to the extent David Cameron had to publicly ask the GEJ government to account for the trillions received through the sector in recent years with Nigeria having nothing to show for that vast amount. After the latest episode of Allison-Madueke making a fool of Nigeria with her open compromise of the Ribadu Petroleum task force, tell me who is more deserving of a sacking in Nigeria than that Lady. Also, we all remember Azazi being sacked after he claimed the PDP was behind Boko Haram. Those are the sort of observations that tell many this is not a President who hires, fires or retain appointees purely on merit and principles. If some now question his motives for sacking Demuren, then they have solid reasons to do so because analytically intelligent people can only make inference from the consistent behaviour of others. If a well-known unrepentant kleptomaniac, would it be wrong for me to assume you may have stolen the watch you are wearing on your ankle instead of your wrist?
Sir,
I already included your point that we do not have a credible president in my earlier submission that you quoted. That I believe is the reason the DG's sack is generating so much debate (not the action in itself but the instigator and his intentions).

I still insist though does the fact that a known liar tells u a well documented fact is true make it less true? NO SIR!
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 6:23pm On Mar 12, 2013
My luv!:
^^^ Talk of giving the dog a bad name just to kill it. It's people like you that earn a living out of cheap blackmail. Smh
That wasn't my intention sir. Sorry if it looks like that.

I don't know the man, but based on the utter waste of human lives occasioned by the irresponsibility of his administration in the Dana crash, any decision made as a fall-out can be justified, never mind that ppl claim he's been outstanding up till then. That's my stand.
He may be a good man, but at that level, you need to maintain a sterling degree of professionalism at all times.

Did he? No.

Did he know the risk? Yes.

Did he have both legal and financial backing to have taken necessary steps to avoid that disaster ?Capital YES!

What happened? He was criminally negligent!

And professionally, he's lucky to be escaping with his freedom. If Nigeria were a country where the populace knew their rights and we had Lawyers who knew anything about Torts, FAAN, FG, NCCA and DANA would be deeply enmeshed in trouble now.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 6:09pm On Mar 12, 2013
Eko Ile: lol @ Another odechukwu groupie. Why not help the other clown address the questions I posed instead of this washed out rubbish? Make yourself useful for a change.
Simple: because the sheer vileness and unpleasant language u word your *thoughts* (I seriously doubt u're capable of that) with make any comprehension impossible. Some of us didn't grow up in gutters so we can't really decode ur pathetic language.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 6:08pm On Mar 12, 2013
texazzpete: You many not 'belong to any tribe' but you've got severe issues comprehending written English. how exactly are the following



'Certificates and books' as you dismissively refer to them?
Hey,
There was no need to attack my personality sir, just stick to clarifying issues.

I see the list of "awards" now I might have overlooked 'em b4.

So lemme' re-word the phrase as 'Certificates, books and awards'

I like using analogies to simplify issues, let's take S/Eagles and Stephen Keshi 4 example and analyze the list of accomplishment:

If Keshi obtains the highest ever FIFA ranking for the national team without winning any competition will we call him a great coach? No

If he leads the team to successfully complete routine training sessions does that make him an outstanding coach? No

If under his administration, the players pass several doping tests, is he a magnificent coach? Still no.

Similarly, most of these "achievements" u mention are ordinary functions any airport administrator should be able to carry out and the fact that we would now celebrate him for these is pitiable. We are so starved of talent we celebrate all the routine things.

As one commentator had aptly put it above, these are inevitable events that would have occurred in due time anyways and his facilitating them doesn't make him the best in the business, he was just there at the right time.

Fighting for passage of bills, trying to replace old crafts, these are all initiatives that have been on ground several decades before him.

The IATA E-ticket achievement is more credible but question still remains: is this an accomplishment his initiative and did he single-handedly start and finish it? Or it was a continuation of efforts of others who were like-minded.

In conclusion, Does Mikel Obi's simple pass that led to a goal make him the best midfielder in Chelsea? No! Of course he may be good, but performing a routine function for which you are paid millions is nothing special.

It's when u distinguish urself at it above your counterparts in other similarly endowed establishments that u can truly be called excellent. Not comparing Nigerian aviation with Beninoise......

Perhaps this will put things in better perspective:

"Dear friend, in an ideal society, one crash caused by administrative irresponsibility is a
crash too many for any administrator under
whose watch regulations were so lax that planes with a combination of faulty engines and a pilot with a marathon schedule were allowed to take off.

The simple fact that no aircraft inspection and regulation official was recorded as raising an objection gives credibility to the conclusion that this was standard practice.

That ONE CRASH was a testament that our DG was
criminally negligent in the discharge of his
duty of care and should be held vicariously
liable as has been the case. Should any lawsuit
be instituted, u can be sure he would be joined as a co-defendant. And given his credentials, this was someone who actually was trained to
operate by the highest standards, but too many years operating as a local champion had
eroded his principles."

Cheers man.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 5:32pm On Mar 12, 2013
Eko Ile: lol @ Another odechukwu groupie. Why not help the other clown address the questions I posed instead of this washed out rubbish? Make yourself useful for a change.
Simple: because the sheer vileness and unpleasant language u word your *thoughts* (I seriously doubt u're capable of that) with make any comprehension impossible. Some of us didn't grow up in gutters so we can't really decode ur pathetic language.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 5:16pm On Mar 12, 2013
iyammah: Nigerians should know that the sack of Dr. Harold Demuren will result to new era of incessant plane crash. The 2015 is by the corner, blood sucking politicians will have assess to down so many plane for sacrifice. Nigerians should be aware. This effort to remove Dr. H Demuren, I see blood everywhere.
Iyammah: I wanted to comment, then I laughed and changed my mind, then I laughed some more and here I am!

U see blood everywhere? No doubt u have vision that others don't please help us clean up the blood and prevent more from spillin (and now I'm not joking). I'm someone who likes to maintain a certain amount of healthy respect for other peoples' opinions/values so if there's any way u can help us prevent this so-called impending bloodbath kindly help out.

But really, at the rate we're going, do we need ritualist politicians to cause air crashes, our administrators are doing a very good job.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 5:11pm On Mar 12, 2013
motif8: if u don't have fact there is no reason wjhy u shoul post my man, how many plane crashed during his time? it is not only dana that d so called aviation minister and hjer people planned to edge demure out? it is not dat demuren shoul stay forever but i tell u they cant replace him for now. a man that close 12am and resume 5am everyday and within that short hours he called airort time to time to make sure staffs are on duty. apart from dat thjere is no aircraft jhe cant fly to know jhow healthy it is. he has grounded so many scrap all tjhis stakeholders broughjt as plane and they are not happy.

but guess what in the next 2 or 3 month he will be hired by Russia aviation or US because the know his worth
Motif8: ur opening statement is actually an unfortunate function of the despicable state of Nigeria and the non-existence of appropriate monitoring of governance.

Your thinking is:
-Is it not ONLY a plane crash?
-Just a single one shey?
-Compared to all the others we'd been having before, should we not be awarding this man for cleaning up the sector?

Dear friend, in an ideal society, one crash caused by administrative irresponsibility is a crash too many for any administrator under whose watch regulations were so lax that planes with a combination faulty engines and a pilot with a marathon schedule were allowed to take off.

The simple fact that no airport regulation official was recorded as raising an objection gives credibility to the conclusion that this was standard practice.

That ONE CRASH was a testament that he was criminally negligent in the discharge of his duty of care and should be held vicariously liable as has been the case. Should any lawsuit be instituted, u can be sure he would be joined as a co-defendant. And given his credentials, this was someone who actually was trained to operate by the highest standards, but too many years operating as a local champion had eroded his principles.

I don't really think he can get a similar job to this anywhere else except maybe in Niger, Somalia or any other back water country. The best he can hope for is to consult which with his credentials should be easy but assuming Russia or US'll employ him as an administrator in their aviation sector? Haba!
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 4:54pm On Mar 12, 2013
ZACHIE: Notable Achievements
Dr. Demuren (left) receiving the 2011 IATA African Aviation "Personality of the Year" Award from IATA President John Tyler in Morocco in Nov 2011.

• 2011 IATA African Aviation "Personality of the Year" – Nov 2011[12]

• 2010 Flight Safety Foundation "Laura Taber Barbour Air Safety Award" - Nov 2010[13]

• 1st African to be elected President of ICAO General Assembly - Sept 2010[10]

• Obtained U.S. FAA Category 1 Certification for Nigeria (6th African Country) - Aug 2010[8]

• Led Nigeria to successfully complete the ICAO Universal Safety Audit - 2006, 2008 & 2010[2]

• Led Nigeria to successful completion of the Aviation Security Audit of Murtala Mohammed International Airport and Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport by the United States of American Transportation Security Administration (TSA) - 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010[2]

• Fellow of the Royal Aeronautical Society – 2008[14]

• Fellow of Nigeria Academy of Engineering – 2008[15]

• Fellow of the Chartered Engineers (UK)[15]

• 2008 Thisday Awards "Regulator of the Year" - 2008[16]
Dr. Demuren (left) with TSA Assistant Administrator, John Halinski (right), after signing a US/Nigeria Security Pact at the TSA Headquarters in Arlington, Virginia in June 2011

• Launched the IATA E-ticket / Billing and Settlement Plan (BSP) regime which revolutionized the Air travel industry in Nigeria – 2008[15]

• Strived for the rapid passage of the Nigerian Civil Aviation Autonomy Bill into Law - 2006[2]

• Implementing the Cape Town Convention replacing Old-Age Aircrafts in Nigeria - 2006[17]

• Re-established confidence in the Nigerian traveling public and international community after the tragic Air disasters of 2005[2]

• Introduced a new Civil Aviation Safety Regulations that ensured Safety Oversight of all aviation activities in Nigeria in compliance ICAO Standards and Recommended Practices (SARPs).[2]

• Laid the foundation of the National Civil Aviation Policy for Nigeria[2]

• Longest serving Director General of Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) – Dec 2005 to (MARCH 11TH, 2013)[b][/b]

• 1st and only African Member in the Board of Governors of Flight Safety Foundation – 2003 to Present[2][5]

• President, Flight Safety Foundation (FSF) West Africa – 2003 to Present[2][5]

• Co-Founder of Afrijet Airlines (1998)[2]





I just updated Wikipedia....yippie
Sir,
While your line of argument initially looks correct, logical reasoning points out that your conclusion that he's the best ever candidate for the job, based on the wrong assumption that the strength of his qualifications alone make him untouchable by all other candidates is faulty.

Certs and books do not necessarily make a person the best option for a role. There are several other factors to consider and while our past DG may have possessed these in abundant quality, there might just be someone better out there.

So if we should base our arguments on so and so awards, then OBJ (arguably the worst leader in Nigerian history) should have been left as life president so as not to upset the balance and he had loads of awards too. I mean he still chairs a lot of committees on Ecowas and AU boards.

Or let's take Barcelona for example, they had an excellent coach in Rijkaard who just had a bad season and they ousted him for Guardiola because, the mgt saw that in the grand scheme of things, Pep was a better choice in the long-term than Rijkaard even though no one knew him then especially compared to Rijkaard's excellent credentials.

The only problem/difficulty I see in this debacle is the assumption we'll have to make that GEJ and his team of incompetents who don't even know how to perform the most basic of functions actually has considered the long-term implication of leaving Demuren in office and decided it wasn't wise.

These questions of tribalism and politicising of appointments would not have arisen if we had a credible administrator as a president!

But then, the joke is on us; WE ELECTED HIM!

NB: I'm a Nigerian and I don't belong 2 any tribe.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 4:33pm On Mar 12, 2013
Eko Ile: Is the FCAA the federal agency responsible for educating and training your engineers and do you allocate to them funds to carry out that obligation. When you come back with another ignorant response, make sure you come back with a copy of the functions of the FCAA stipulating that they educate and train engineers including the federal funding for that purpose.


You are just another sad by product of odechukwu failed education system...
Eko Ile: you should be living alone in a bush! The only thing that'd make me proud about u is if someone miraculously revealed u're not a nigerian!

This country has enough problems without morally bankrupt and utterly irresponsible near animals like you!

The stupidity and vileness of your language and thought is appalling even by gutter standards..... I seriously pity anyone directly related to you!
Christianity EtcPastors Chris, Fake Pastors And True Men Of God's Conspiracy Of Silence!! by TheBeam(op): 10:16am On Mar 12, 2013
-"The holy spirit said I should tell you, this year, You will reap where u did not soooow!!"

-"All ur enemies shall DIIIEEEEE!!"

All you need to do is just bring a seed of faith, give sacrificially, the more ur seed the more ur blessing.......

This is a short cap of every single message in most churches these days and the economic reality of our society is such that there's nothing people won't believe just to achieve a measure of progress. Unfortunately, this is a situation fraudsters in cassocks prey on and fleece unsuspecting Nigerians of their hard-earned sweat. They collect "sacrificial seed" for buying and maintaining fleets of jets while majority of the contibutors don't even have cars.

I can almost hear u think "mscheew another church hater".....but, Hold-up! That's not where I'm going, this is just an Intro!

Despicable though the 1st group of pastors are, they are still better than these next set. The worse pastors are the ones who impoverish their members both materially, financially and worse spiritually!
After fleecing the poor congregation, they still propagate fallacies and abominable doctrines:

-I have divorced my wife and it's final, church pls respect our decision! (Pastor Okotie)
-It's okay to be a homosexual/drink alchohol, it's ur heart that matters. (Pastor Chris)
-God does not reject the tithe of a prostitute, even if he doesn't bless her in return, he'll because of the tithe show her mercy and draw her to him. (Pastor Chris)

So called "men-of-God" presiding over millions of viewers and believers spout these doctrines of Belial and deliberately mislead gullible people who'd rather sit under their ministrations than listen to pure undiluted messages because those ones are not appealing to the senses.

Dear reader, now u probably think "he's still not said anything different". Here's my bottom line:
Jesus Vs Pharisees,
Peter Vs High priest,
Paul Vs several pharisees and Rabbis,
Elijah Vs Prophets of Baal (Mt. Carmel),
Paul Vs several Xtian leaders in his epistles,

These are some biblical examples where conscientious servants of God acted swiftly to correct and denounce fake prophets and spurious doctrines in the bible.
Now if we are all following Jesus and the early apostle's examples;

1)Why is it all the men of God in Nigeria nowadays cower from being seen as controversial and instead ignore dangerous doctrines by obviously fake prophets (I AM NOT JUDGING, BIBLE SAYS "BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM"wink?

2) Why do they value their reputations more than the millions of souls these pretenders are leading t destruction?

3) Why will no one ever go on TV or national dailies and declare : so and so teaching is wrong! This is not a Godly doctrine?

4) Why will they rather diplomatically announce in their churches "let's pray against end-time spirit in the church so that we don't fall for false doctrines like *some leading pastors have*".

5)Why not come out boldly like Shedrach and his friends and say:

"Pastor Okotie, you are a hypocrite and a sinner! God says do not divorce your wife, you did, God says forgive each other your sins and live in peace with all men, you didn't. Repent!"

Why oh why, do we prefer the path of least resistance in serving God??!!!

This is a conspiracy to aid and abet the harmful doctrines being mixed in christianity now (by the singular fact of our collective inaction).
And very soon if we continue ignoring them........a time will come when these same fake prophets will define christianity worldwide and the true prophets (at least to all outward appearances), the Adeboyes, Kumuyis, Olusanyas will be seen by majority as the impostors and fake pastors.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Fires Director-General Of NCAA, Demuren by TheBeam(m): 9:15am On Mar 12, 2013
CFCfan: With all due respect, there aren't many aviation professionals in the NASS. Therefore, their 'vote of confidence' was in massive error.
Dear CFCfan,

It's a misconception to think that. That's why they are empowered to employ aides versatile in many fields who can consult for them and help them understand the import of a whole range of subject matter.

As such it is well within their rights to pass a vote of Zero confidence in a man under whose watch all sorts of ills have plagued the aviation industry while himself remains anonymous.
Like managers say in performance evaluation meetings "He did not justify his salary!"
PoliticsRe: Odumegreed "Ikemba" Ojukwu? Things You Never Knew About Biafra by TheBeam(op): 7:22pm On Mar 03, 2013
Like I said before, two wrongs can NEVER make a right and dropping bombs on innocent civilian targets instead of targeting strategic military installations' unacceptable in any form!

A good strategist would have known there was really no sense in seizing a position you couldn't possibly keep (the federal capital) and should have instead focused on military bases that would have served as a source of much needed armor

I didn't say oil was the bone of contention sir, only wondered if it wasn't a motivating factor for the greedy pro-secessionists

Heroes of emancipation are not defined by how many of their enemies they can kill in return! Take Mandela for example, he brought apartheid to its knees without bearing arms, it may have taken longer but the loss was a lot less than civil wars and the purpose was achieved which is more than can be said for Ojukwu's crusade.

The international community, UN councils and other such bodies

And that Ojukwu predicted there'd be no peace in Nigeria? Seriously?
When has there ever been peace in Nigeria? If it's worse now than before who do we have to blame but ourselves:
(for allowing our hatreds of Hausas to blind us to the fact that a Vice who couldn't muster courage to declare his principal incompetent after a WHOLE MONTH of illegal and embarrassing absence would NEVER have made a manageable president?)
Now some 3 years down the line, we are paying salaries to terrorists because of his manifestations of incompetence.....

It is this same emotion-over-logic mindset I'm trying to address here, kinsman or not a murderer is a murderer!
PoliticsRe: Odumegreed "Ikemba" Ojukwu? Things You Never Knew About Biafra by TheBeam(op): 10:57pm On Mar 02, 2013
ugojamali: This post is such an apology. And it is sad to say that you have been brainwashed. This is exatly how terrorists are convinced to become suicide bombers. The fact that u posted this silly write up means that you are no different from misguided islamists and boko haramists. You are also brainless. A total airhead.

How can you believe stupid articles you see without reading proper history? Do you know the truth of the revolution and the war? Do you know what personal sacrifice ojukwu made for igboland? Do you know how much he lost? Do you know that there was a calculated genocide in hausaland? Do you know about the aburi accord? That ojukwu tried his best to get d nigerian government to stick to the aburi agreement.

You do not know all these things and you come here and spit rubbish about a hero. You are a disappointment to Nigeria. And again I tell you that you are no different from an illiterate Islamic who can easily be brainwashed to commit acts of terrorism.
Apology, brainwashed, misguided, brainless, airhead? Are these not too many for just one person?

Dear friend, the problem was I already had these arguments in my mind before I saw them in the article that was reportedly a CIA report compiled so I didn't believe this article, rather it served to reinforce a nagging suspicion I had all along.

What constitutes "proper history". Any historian of repute'll tell u an independent assessment/reporting of occurrence is always the most objective (in this case the intelligence reports of a third party observer to his home country). They didn't have so much vested interest in the war and so their opinion is bound to be more objective than that of impassioned Nigerians who have suffered losses.

The truth of the genocide? (Yes I call it genocide not even a failed revolution) Targeted killings of Ibo indigenes in strategic positions sparked it off isn't it? Face reality sir, it's a military dispensation, targeted killings are always carried out, that does not say you should dupe a pack of hot-headed but ill-prepared simpletons into a personal crusade to take over the government.

I honestly don't know of any sacrifice he made or losses, that he didn't recoup 10 times over in his wheelings and dealings with the FG over the subsequent years, perhaps u could educate us here?

Does calculated genocide in Hausaland justify calculated genocide nationwide? "Kill off ALL non-ibo residents of any occupied town before you retreat" does that sound like the orders of a man fighting against genocide? Do u fight genocide with genocide on a larger scale? Do we start building bombs with all the intellectual ability in the S/West and start retaliating against Boko Haram? When u condescend 2 outdoing ur adversary in cruelty, then you are little better than an animal.

Tried what best to what? Plssss! Whatever happened to the courts of international arbitration? Or lobbying for UN and restrictive sanctions against the FG? See that's what a right thinking man would have done, not gone to a war you could never win. If he really cared for his people, he'd have considered the likely collateral damage.

And point of correction: when u secede, you fight 2 break away, u don't try to invade and conquer other territories like he did the S/West.

Who gave who mandate? Like OBJ revealed that the masses gave him mandate for 3rd term? Or like Jonathan is being prevailed upon by Nigerians now to go for 2nd term? We all know these foolish politics Nigerian leaders play, stop acting naïve.

Uummm about ur terrorism assumptions, I can say you are wrong, but u might wanna be more tolerant of other peoples' views.

Illiterate Islamic? So being an illiterate muslim now automatically qualifies as criteria for a terrorist? You know all these things led to the stupid war in the first place?
PoliticsRe: Odumegreed "Ikemba" Ojukwu? Things You Never Knew About Biafra by TheBeam(op): 8:28pm On Mar 02, 2013
Odua Negro: Thanks, glad some people at least can look past the beards and riches.


Kettykings: while I understand and appreciate where u're coming from, I don't believe respect 4 d dead shld cloud our reasoning ability. All I'm trying to correct is the impression that once a popular man dies, he becomes a celebrated "hero" irrespective of his misdeeds in his lifetime.

"My frustration" is at our inability to celebrate the right people at the right time while we focus on the despicable rich and connected and by the way, the information that prompted this piece just came to notice recently.
PoliticsRe: Odumegreed "Ikemba" Ojukwu? Things You Never Knew About Biafra by TheBeam(op): 8:11pm On Mar 02, 2013
ROYALD: YOU ARE NOTHING BUT ALL THAT LISTED
YOKEL _ SIMPLE, POORLY-EDUCATED PERSON FROM THE COUNTRYSIDE

ZERO_A WORTHLESS PERSON, SOMEONE WHO'S DONE NOTHING WORTHWHILE IN LIFE

NUT -A CRAZY OR STRANGE PERSON

DORK -A SOCIALLY AWKWARD PERSON
DOPE -A STUPID PERSON, A FOOL

DONKEY - A STUPID OR SILLY PERSON
DEADBEAT- A DULL, LAZY, UNRELIABLE PERSON
DAG - AN UNFASHIONABLE OR SOCIALLY AWKWARD PERSON
CHICKEN- A COWARD
AIRHEAD - A SILLY, STUPID PERSON
BASTARD- UNPLEASANT, DESPICABLE PERSON
Bleep YOU YOU AND YOUR GENERAL
Eeeerrrr..........................Royald.

Honestly, I'm sorry if I offended you with my post but when u see facts like this you can't help but wonder at the "patriotism" of our acclaimed hero.

Of course the events that led to the civil war were unfortunate and detestable but still, was it enough to take up arms and endager ur people in a war u surely could not win?

I wonder if there had not been the oil factor if he would still have been as eager to "liberate" his people....

If he was truly concerned or angered by the imperialist and murderous nature of the pogrom, why not pursue the perpetrators in a better manner. Surely for a military strategist, there are several ways of exacting such rather than the option of outright war against a military might u were ill-prepared to face?

If indeed he was concerned with just liberating his people, why greedily grab to seize power by marching on the neutral west and forcing Awolowo to rally Yorubas behind Hausa leadership?

These are questions you should ask before thinking "who is this idiot abusing my kinsman?" (Cos he's undoubtedly that).

It's high time we stopped rallying behind despicable characters just because they yell "Ndigbo Ohaneze" and we feel it's better a useless tribesman who may develop our areas than a useful person whose policies may not benefit us.

Please, LET NIGERIA GROW; STOP CRIPPLING NIGERIA THIS WAY
PoliticsOdumegreed "Ikemba" Ojukwu? Things You Never Knew About Biafra by TheBeam(op): 11:20pm On Mar 01, 2013
History is indeed interesting!

The more I read on the charlatan Ojukwu, the more my contempt for him grows. A myopic bigot fueled by pure greed and self-service, enabled by a rich, pathetic father who thought Oxford education (and later Sandhurst) could refine a mindless thug.

Planned an ill-conceived conquest of the nation, directly responsible for bombings of civilian targets, complicit in the summary execution without trial of allies who disagreed with him and the deaths of millions of his misguided kins men (mostly by starvation) who didn't know better than to follow his utopian ambition. This not even talking of his atrocious war crimes and targeted killings of non-igbo residents in Biafran strongholds.......

Questions are:
Why was this abominable looking creature never tried for crimes against humanity?

Why was this Nigerian Hitler allowed 2 live out the rest of his life in d company of respectable Nigerians?

I guess we may never find out, but one thing we've learnt from the dreadful mistakes of great men, (the biblical Abraham and in this case Sir Louis Ojukwu) is: STAY FAITHFUL, THAT BASTARD YOU FATHER MIGHT JUST BE THE NEXT HITLER!!

Read for yourself @:
www.zimbio.com/Nigeria/articles/da0wVAjz7Xf/America+Secret+Files+Ojukwu
Jobs/VacanciesRe: First Bank Plc 2013 Test Location And Date by TheBeam(m): 6:26am On Feb 27, 2013
georgee: Thank u @U3fine. Can u imagine their mentality, graduates for that matter. I will nearly kill my 5yr-old nephew if he behaves d way some nigerian graduates behave on this forum.
If i hadn't cut in, this thread wuld av reached 50pages wit phone numbers and e-mail addys. Later they wil come hia and start cryn dat someone sent a scam msg to their emails/phone numbers. I keep reading everywia that most nigerian graduates are unemployable. These are d kind of nonsense that facilitates such write-up. U need to see some Job websites, the way the so-called graduates ask foolish questions and even directn it to d owner of the Job sites as if the site owner is a recruiting agent.
Be guided.
Georgee: the author might have been wrong but YOU ARE WORSE.
First off; it's a free society where everyone has the right to make their own mistakes and subsequently learn from same.

Now, if u undertake to be ur brother's keeper and help out a misguided fellow, ur tone must reflect ur care for the person or ur message will get lost in the process. Insulting someone this much for a mistake portrays you as a mannerless person who'll make a horrible leader/team member.

U might wanna work on that before u become a part of a larger society to avoid issues.
Not everyone is ur 5-yr old Nephew.
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Hey there Gbenga, I think I know u. Did u attend ACEDSS Ondo?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Pwc Graduate Recruitment Nigeria – 2013 by TheBeam(m): 5:39am On Feb 27, 2013
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HealthRe: Was Goldie's Death Caused By A Pulmonary Embolism? by TheBeam(m): 11:18pm On Feb 15, 2013
Good Girl: So you think because Nigerians resort to "juju" to solve all their problems (like eliminating their "enemies" ), every other person does the same? You have no idea how unintelligent you sound. Prezzo was separated from his wife and they have both moved on since.
You get a flat tire - it's a witch in your village that is responsible
You fail your exams - it's a witch in your village that's responsible
You get yourself into bad relationships that won't last - it's a witch in your village that's responsible
You get your purse stolen - it's a witch in your village that's responsible
Tch! angry
Good girl: much as I identify with ur viewpoint on the annoying habit of some people to deflect responsibility rather preferring superstition, it is ABSOLUTELY WRONG for you to say "Nigerians resort to juju"!
Yes, some might, but as long as it hasn't been proven publicly dat Nigerians all do this, I think the wise option'd be to keep YOUR opinion direct at the particular people u want to address and NOT GENERALIZE..

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