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ikillmods:
Hi guys, please enlighten me.





How much does it cost to give birth in canada please

As permanent Citizen/permanent resident OR a visitor?
If you are coming to Canada as permanent resident then the cost of childbirth is $0

Most of us here are either Citizens or residents of Canada. Therefore, the majority of us may not be familiar with the cost/process of giving birth in Canada on a visiting visa.

Please visit this thread for more information:
https://www.nairaland.com/1346880/giving-birth-canada

@hydrogeology
Travelwat had provided you his number to call so that he can assist you with visa packaging.
Go on and give him a call ... and after getting a lifetime ban from the US embassy, you will come back crying on Nairaland with a new thread
Beware of those travel agents. You will be facing a lifetime ban by using their services.

vcole:
you got the wrong message from my post. It'll be ridiculous for me to view this issue from a racist perspective. It is not about being white or black. It is about competence. On a global playing field, where does a Nigerian educational qualification rank and how does it compete with a Canadian or European qualification?
In professional fields, how do Nigerian certifications rank on a global scale? How many countries have a reciprocal agreement with Nigerian professional organizations? What is the work culture in Nigeria and how similar or divergent is it from that of Canada? Is the European work culture more similar to that of Canada? And how do these factors affect the job seeking Nigerian on a global scale?
As a hiring manager, it is imperative to choose a candidate who is best qualified and skilled for the job.

If things are viewed from this perspective then I believe it is in the best interest of a landed immigrant looking to build a rewarding career to explore opportunities that would enhance his/her qualifications or gain relevant experience that would open doors for advancement.

In regard with the bolded, who does the ranking of the different countries education system on the global scale?

My parents brought me here 28 years ago.
When I graduated from High school, I went to University in New York State on an athletic scholarship.
During my University years, I come across a good number of international students.
Most of the students who did their high school in Africa (Senegal, Nigeria, Kenya ...) were well advanced in terms of Science and Technology comparing to their North American counterparts.
Those African students were for the most part the go-to people whenever anyone had issues with anything related to Math, Physics, Chemistry, Programming ...
This is because the education system in their respective African countries were very strong ... much more advanced than the one in North America. Thus, I realized that this global ranking of different country education system is a complete BS.

The same goes here in Canada, when High School students arrived in Quebec from Haiti even from French African countries, they always seem to be performing better than the local students. But, On a global playing field, where does Haiti educational qualification rank? Haiti stands nowhere because this ranking on the global field is a BS made up by some redneck who seems to undervalue the education system of third world countries. Once again, we are letting the white man define who we are by accepting his so called global ranking BS. I know what is the worth of people from third world country, so I can't accept anyone to tell me they don't qualify for jobs in Canada just because they lack the Canadian experience or because the education system in their country is ranking low on the global scale.

Adding to that, when I came out of University, most of the things I have learned in school were forgotten. I remember my first programming job back in 2005-2006 involved the use of Visual Basic. Though I took Visual Basic in College, I had to learn everything back again on the job.
Then, in 2011, I got my present job in Networking. I took Computer Network in College 9 to 10 years earlier but I couldn't even remember what was a Network topology ... my employer needed a French Speaking person with technical background to supervise, monitor , troubleshoot (Using Linux) the installations of Network systems for some major clients across Quebec. Bingo, French was the only thing that made me Qualify for the job. And everything else in regard to Networking I learned them on the job. It was on the job that I learned Linux for the first time.

This is to show you that not many people truly qualify for a new job they get hired for. Therefore, the Canadian experience prerequisite is discriminatory given new immigrants from third world country are the most affected by that.

If the Canadian Human Rights commission had identified the requirement for Canadian Experience as an unnecessary barrier immigrants face to enter the Canadian work force, why trying to justify it? As Canadians of African descent, it should be our duty to help eradicate this form of discrimination and not condone or trying to justify it. We are all in the same boat.

Blessedluvdfavd:
OK thank you will check kijiji!

On a different note, RBC has a program that assists new immigrants getting their first mortgage.
You have be living in Canada for less than 2 years to qualify for this program.
If I were you I would truly look into this RBC program.
You can buy a house and then set the basement up for rent. In that case, your tenant will pay part of your mortgage.
In the event you decide not to buy a house and choose to rent instead, your rent money will end up paying someone else mortgage

Anyway, we have debated over this issues many pages back ... exposing the pros and cons of buying vs renting

http://www.rbc.com/newcomers/

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Blessedluvdfavd:
Hi TheCongo2! Anything above $2000 is high I think. I've read the cost of houses is not too different from Calgary and in Calgary I can get those specs for less than $2k.

Yes but when I am checking on Kijiji, there are houses listed for less than 2K in Mississauga.

https://www.kijiji.ca/b-house-rental/mississauga-peel-region/3+bedrooms/c43l1700276a15

Holyfield1:
I'll be going in for my interview in few minutes time

Transcript?

castrokins:
You're Very Funny. Please Permit Me To Laugh Small

Very funny indeed
Most disturbing is the fact that some people like his post

Blessedluvdfavd:
@ Blackbuddy

Hi Blackbuddy! I'm recently considering settling in the GTA specifically Mississauga (I think) but the cost of renting a 3bed house/apartment with a basement/a fenced yard is really high. What is the average price for such please? Also which areas are family friendly with good elementary schools?

What do you consider really high?

psychologist:
Who else notice her semblance with ini edo

I thought I was the only one who noticed it ... I am glad someone else did.

vascey:
Came across this infographic on Quora

https://www.quora.com/In-Canada-is-real-estate-and-cost-of-living-in-Calgary-lower-than-Vancouver-and-Toronto

Wow ... The average home price in West Vancouver is $1,757,000. This is by far the highest in the country.

salford1:
One word. White privilege...

Even though alot of them don't believe it exists.

Merci beaucoup mon frere

SixSigma1:
I agree with vcole with her hiring preference. The Canadian experience is not a myth. The issue is people seem to misunderstand the need for Canadian experience. For the most part the Canadian experience the hiring manager is looking for is about the Canadian work ethics (which many, not all, new immigrants don’t have) and not necessarily the technical experience (which almost everybody has). Irrespective of your profession, you can actually get the needed Canadian experience (work ethics) working in any job in Canada (McDonald's, Tim Hortons, Walmart etc).

As for violating Human Rights Commission regulations, smart employers will not tell you the reason you are not being hired is due to lack of Canadian experience. So, how will you report them to the Human Rights Commission if they never told you that you are being rejected due to lack of Canadian experience?

Finally, I will share with you two situations that I am familiar with to show to you why I would hire the same way vcole mentioned. Note that these situations are not hear say as I was part of the situations.

The first one happened many years ago in my second job here in Canada. Having proving myself to my employer, when the opportunity came again to hire additional engineer my boss chose a recently landed Nigerian. We all had phones with international calling access on our desk in our cubicle, so my Nigerian guy started using the phone to call Nigeria everyday and talking anywhere from 1 to 2 hours everyday. You need to see the phone bills when it came at the end of the month. The only thing that saved this guy from being fired was that he was honest about using his desk phone for too many personal calls when asked. So he was only warned. The problem here is not just adding more expenses to the business expenses, the calls also suggested that he was on the phone too much when he was supposed to be working.

The second situation happened about 2 years ago. I have 5 Managers reporting directly to me and a newly landed Nigerian that I hired (in the name of being your brother’s keeper) was one of them. This guy had nice managerial experience from Nigeria but nothing in Canada. He started managing his staff the Nigerian way. His staff started complaining to me about it and I also see things by myself. I tried coaching this guy the Canadian way of employee management but he was just not getting it. Long story short I had no other option than to fire him before I lose my own job due to his poor management style.

SixSigma1, I am glad to hear from a black who is holding a high position in the Corporate world.

In his post, vcole indicated that the Nigerian applicant will be his 3rd option behind the European immigrant who also lacked the Canadian experience. I still fail to see why wasn't the European set as third option? This is to show that black immigrants are the most affected by the Canadian experience requirement. Unfortunately, here we also have brothers like vcole who are reinforcing the perception that it is better to take a chance with a white person who lacks the Canadian experience than an African with no Canadian experience. (Vcole didn't use the word white, but he used the word European. Nevertheless, we know who are the Europeans. )


You indicate that for the most part the Canadian experience the hiring manager is looking for is about the Canadian work ethics. But, remember that it is not only immigrants who may fall short of the workplace expectations or ethics. Many Canadians are in the same boat. Their work ethics leave much to be desired. But unfortunately, society never holds the white race responsible for a crime or shortcoming of one or few white man. However, when it comes to the minority, the entire race is judged for crimes committed by few. In other words, white people are been judged as individuals. Each white pays for his own sins. Whereas, minorities and immigrants are been judged collectively.

We have to set a safeguard in place called Canadian experience just because one Nigerian manager was managing his staff the "Nigerian" way or because another Nigerian was making international calls on phone company. A lot of Canadians misused their workplace resources as well, what would you say about them? What about those police officers who seize drugs money only to put it in their pockets instead of taking it to the police station. What about those police officers who take the police cars for personal use?

I am of the opinion that the Corporate world is dysfunctional in North America.
It is ruled by bullying, ignorance, discrimination, racism, sexism, selfishness etc ... A dog eats dog world.
My advise to anyone who want to survive in the Corporate world is to know the law (Human Rights code and Labor Law). Otherwise, you will be treated like a slave or a second class citizen. People are set up for unfair termination by dysfunctional HR. But, the person who knows the law, would know how to stop an unfair termination from coming through. I am talking from personal experience. No one will stand up for you but yourself. As the say goes, knowledge is power. Be your own lawyer. I am very passionate with the Human Rights code and I can sense a violation from miles away. Many employers are never efficient in covering their tracks whenever there is a violation of Human Rights or Labor Law code. They always leave clues on the "crime scene".

There was this black Vice-President at my company who once opened up to me after he was terminated. Oh my Gosh, that was unbelievable. This is when I came to the conclusion that regardless of your title, if you are a minority, an immigrant, a female, you are vulnerable in the Corporate world. The same BS is happening at all level and we are all in the same boat.

salford1:
Unfortunately, not many recruiter or hiring manager has travelled outside their province not to even mention travel outside the country.lol

In my opinion, Canadian experience is no myth. It is real. Most employers would not even give you a reason for rejection, so how do one contact any commission when there is no proof rejection via unrecognized experience?

Note: some experience are universal, so there would be less discrimination in such fields.

Ok... you have a point
But you may use the line of questions asked by the hiring manager to determine if the lack of Canadian experience could be a factor
It may take only one wrong word from the hiring manager for you to have a strong case with the commission

And once the commission is on the case, trust me that everything will be revealed
They are very good in their investigation
You don't need strong evidence to contact the commission. You only need clues. And the commission will do the job of finding the evidences.

P.S. alford1 , I hope we aren't confusing requirement for Canadian experience and reqirement for Canadian certification on regulated field. Two different issue here

vcole:
Congrats freeradical. I guess you may have some diageo experience with an associate of IGB designation right? You obviously proved yourself to be fit for the job. All d best!!

@canadian experience and canadian qualification. Let's look at it this way. If I am a hiring manager in Canada and I have a position to fill and I have shortlisted 3 candidates for the job. All qualified with work experience and who interview well. If I have one with a canadian qualification or experience in a similar role in a canadian company, another with a European or US qualification and foreign experience from Europe or the states in similar roles (bearing in mind that Europe and the US sometimes have reciprocal professional association agreeements for some professions) and then I have one with a Nigerian qualification and Nigerian experience. In order of preference who would I hire? I guess it's pretty clear that on a level playing field where all 3 candidates interview well, I may most likely make the Nigerian a 3rd option.

It's not a myth that Canadian experience and/or qualifications are necessary to get ahead. Most especially if you are in a regulated profession or if you find yourself experiencing difficulty getting a job or you do not want to have to deal with the possibility of job hunting for months without getting a job. So my advise is that you consider getting a recognised qualification or certification that is recognised in your industry in Canada on arrival or get a job sometimes in an entry level position that is relevant to your industry.

The nigerian will be the 3rd option based on biased and ignorance... that hiring manager knows that Nigerians live on trees. That is the only reason the nigerian will be the 3rd option. Why then wasn't the European be set as 3rd option?

Yes, it has been proven that the Canadian experience is a myth. Hiring managers who hadn't been outside of North America are more likely to require the Canadian experience. The mindset is that the third world is a jungle. Ignorance is the word, just ignorance

Even the Canadian human rights commission has been ruling the Canadian experience requirement as discrimination
It is illegal for an employer in Canada to require the Canadian experience as prerequisite for employment . That is discrimination under the Canadian human rights code
And anyone who had been required to provide the Canadian experience can lodge a complaint with the Canadian human rights commission or their provincial human rights commission

I would understand if a redneck if finding reasons to justify the Canadian experience requirement. But for a black person to do so ... hmmmm... this is just over me. I am always under the perception that we, black, always give a helping hand to our newly arriving brothers and sisters



From the Ontario Human Rights Commission website:

http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/policy-removing-%E2%80%9Ccanadian-experience%E2%80%9D-barrier

Employers, representatives of employers and regulatory bodies should not:
•Require applicants to have prior work experience in Canada to be eligible for a particular job.
•Assume that an applicant will not succeed in a particular job because he or she lacks Canadian experience.
•Discount an applicant’s foreign work experience or assign it less weight than their Canadian work experience.
•Rely on subjective notions of “fit” when considering an applicant’s ability to succeed in the workplace.
• Include a requirement for prior Canadian work experience in the job posting or ad, or a requirement for qualifications that could only be obtained by working in Canada.
•Require applicants to disclose their country of origin or the location of their work experience on the job application form.
•Ask applicants questions that may directly or indirectly reveal where their work experience was obtained.
•Ask for local references only.

eyinola:
I re apply today, I plan to travel first week in March and come back last week in March also... My passport will expire August 2018. Incase i get the visa hope it won't give me any issues.

I think tour passport should be valid for 6 months from the time you enter the U.S.

Semose:
I was denied today by the dark skinned lady in window 5 .. Here is my transcript
Vo: y r u traveling to the US
Me: I will be having my annual leave Jan 12 and intend to seize d opportunity it to visit a relative.
Vo: who is she to you [looked at it from my application she viewed]
Me: aunt
Vo: what state in the US are u visiting
Me: Alabama
Vo: r u married
Me: yes
Vo: kids
Me: yes
Vo: boy or girl
Me: boy
Vo: have you traveled outside the country b4
Me: no
Next thing long typing on her computer screen, followed by blue paper..... Pls ur evaluation

Sorry to hear about your denial
Just give it another try

jomonic:
Some people have stated in this forum that the Ambazonnians want to be a part of Nigeria. There's no truth in this. I have listened to the Ambazonnia leaders. They are fighting for a separate state independent from Cameroon. I agree that Nigeria can take advantage and win back the lost Bakassi island. But to me the Nigerian government will always flee from any the that will render them vulnerable to the Biafra Agitation.

They wanted to be part on Nigeria but Obasanjo wasn't interested in them in 2001. That is why they resolved to have their own country

ladylco:
visiting sir

When are you going back? We just want to make sure you aren't overstaying

as if we were immigration agents[s]

salford1:
This maternal sef....

Lol... ... maternal, jeez ...

South Cameroonians want to integrate Nigeria while Biafrans want to leave Nigeria ....

honey86:
This is for Manitoba. Minimum wage is still in fact $11.25 but cost of living is low.

Oh! Cool.

Omalitchar:
Hello honey86,please when you say RBC customer service pays well,how do you mean?like how much per hour.

honey86:
Between $15 and $17. Great benefits too.

$15 and $17 is nothing to write home about.
As a matter of fact, the new minimum wage in Ontario is $14. And by January 2019, it will turn to $15.
In other words, even flipping buggers at McDonald's can pay you this much.

On a side note, for anyone who is Bilingual (English and French), please be advised that their is a high demand for bilingual teachers in the education sector (Kindergarten, Junior High and High school).
With a college degree from anywhere in the world and in any field, you would need to go through a certification for few months. And once certified, you can start a teaching position with a salary of $60.000 that would go up to $80000 or 90000 after few years.

Without a college degree, there is room at the Kindergarten level. A person would need to take a 2 years program to qualify for teaching position at kindergarten. There is also a high demand for people to work in the after school program that do not require any qualification at all.

ladylco:
Sleep ke, it's just 9 pm here in Toronto am on vav

Do you live in Toronto or you are visiting?

johnson11:
Hi guys - i am about registering for an online program with a Canadian University . I am contemplating between University of Fredericton and University of New Brunswick. Which one more recognized and respected by employers?

I am taking this course for Canadian experience and to boast my CRS score ( two or more certificates). I already have a degree (in the same field ) and is it necessary to do diploma or a certificate will suffix?

They both offer the course in diploma and certification.

I am afraid that the bolded is more of a myth than reality. I dont think where you go to school truly matter in most of the cases

releastaso:
Woah! Brilliant explanation there. You are intelligent indeed

Yeah, maternal is very bright

ladylco:
Thanks for keeping it real. Sometimes I just wonder why the insults when giving out so called advise here under the pretence that, if the so called "refused or banned candidate don't learn the hard way they will not learn." And so? Why don't you just read their experience and give your views without insult? Abi na you pay their visa fee? If VO refuse them so what? If they are aiming for refusal/ban does it affect you?

Some people who are fortunate to be granted visas come here to brag and crucifies people yet they and at least a member of their family migrates illegally abroad (just becos this a faceless forum). "He who is without sin should cast the first stone" Am sure if we investigation how some of the do called gurus used or got their visas we go baffle.

Am not encouraging any form of illegality but please let's give our advise/comments as if we are addressing adults.

I rest my case. Let's have an insult-free advise/comments.

Have a very happy new year all.

You have made some valid points but you need some sleep .... I can tell you are very tired

twodee75:
base on the fact that we ve never have any travelling experience

It doesn't matter ... if you go through the entire thread, you will notice that even people with no travel experience have been given visas. Therefore, no one can predict your chance of getting a visa. To maximize your chance, all you have to do is to apply for tour visa and be honest in your application

.Is this program still going on?

LegitBachelor:
HE should tell the VO he is planning to visit his aunt and stay there during his vacation for two weeks .

Lol ...
Seriously, you are a killer ..lol

doksheritage90:
Hi guys.
Please, i need your advice.
I have been hearing about the Canadian and Australian PR. I am really confused as to which to pick and also with our work expercience which country will be preferable to relocate to.
Am an Accounting graduate with second class upper degree who started training in an international audit firm in lagos in 2010 as an Audit Associate, after three and half years went to further my studies in forensic accounting in United Kingdom where I gained a master degree and had a merit. After study joined back my firm and was an Audit Senior Associate till i left end of 2016.
Having in total close to 5 years experience in Financial Audit. Moved as an Accountant reporting to the Financial controller in a growing energy servicing firm from late 2016 till date. My wife is a graduate of law and called to bar with over two years experience in Law practice as a legal practitioner also with a masters degree in Management in United Kingdom. We presently have a kid and am 31 years old.
I have researched my eyes out and read everything there is to read. I still can't decide. I think I am even more confused. I don't think I can afford to apply for both of them now and need to focus on one depending on which one gives us a better chance of getting the PR. For those that have done this before, what is your opinion and how long will the process take as am just about to start.
Please cold weather should not be a factor against Canada.

Thanks

I am afraid you may not find anyone who had lived in both countries to give you an accurate picture on their differences. So each answer you will receive will be based on which side of the fence each poster will be standing

You may start by visiting the threads on Australia and Canada

LadyGuinivere:
Madamvisa kindly respect your self and your trade. Accredited agent's buy marketing space. You now want to come and ply your market free?

@congo s'il vous plait, do not quote these kind of posts.
Merci infiniment!

Ok, I have remove the message under quote