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Billygee2u: Mr man, I want you to answer my simple questions.(1)Who is a man of God? (2) How do you recognize who God called ) (3)God's judgment will start from where? (4) Should people keep quite and never confess their sins so that God will forgive them? (5) Because one gathers people in a place and continue to act as a preacher make him or her a man of God or woman of God who have the calling of God? (6) The people that were called Men of God( prophets) or the Apostles in the Bible,what was their Ethics / ID ( identity )?

2.How do you recognize who God has called?

Matthew 7:16-17
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. By their fruits ye shall know them

Someone who God has called has the anointing of God upon his life, now ALL CHRISTIANS have the anointing of God upon them but there is this extra anointing that has been given to those that have been called into ministry to perform the duties of such office.As listed in

Ephesian 4:11-12, A pastor, apostle etc require a special grace, anointing to work in that office. Now a pastor is first a Christian before he is a pastor. So the anointing of God upon his life is not for him but for the work he has been called to do, his flock. For things to work out for him in his personal life he has to apply his Christian faith.

That’s why sometimes they can pray for someone without necessarily believing in that prayer or even doubt but the person receives answer because he/she believed in that office of the prophet
Another example is the case of Elisha,
2kings 13:14-21
Now Elisha was fallen sick of his sickness whereof he died: and Joash the king of Israel came down unto him, and wept over him, and said, My father, my father, the chariots of Israel and the horsemen thereof!
Vs 21
And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and as soon as the man touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet.

the bible says that Elisha fell sick and died, yet when a dead man touched his bones, the anointing revived the dead man. Why couldn’t the anointing that he carried in his bones work for him(there are several variables to the answer to this question)

the last physical example I will give is the president of any country, he is first a citizen of the country before being a president. And by the virtue of that office there are certain privileges and powers conferred on him by the constitution because of that office that no other fellow citizen can have. Just because of that office

so you recognize a man of God by the anointing of God upon his life, the fruits he produces and most importantly his message in accordance with the word of God. Someone can then ask how do I know that his message is in line with Gods words or his fruits are being produced by spirit of God and not diabolical powers? That’s where you walk with the holy spirit comes in.

the bible has told us that there will be false prophets and we have to discern them. One of the gifts of the holy spirit is the discerning of spirit.
One quick and basic way of knowing, though it’s kinda of streamlined is found in
1 john 4:1-3
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 and every spirit that confesseth not Jesus is not of God: and this is the spirit of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it cometh; and now it is in the world already.

There are many more…..

talking about fruits, one has to be careful, that a christain sinned is an the issue, other issues spring up will be what did he do after that? did he ask for forgiveness etc
so its not enough to say because someone is sinning or has sinned, the person is no longer a christain!!

Billygee2u: Mr man, I want you to answer my simple questions.(1)Who is a man of God? (2) How do you recognize who God called ) (3)God's judgment will start from where? (4) Should people keep quite and never confess their sins so that God will forgive them? (5) Because one gathers people in a place and continue to act as a preacher make him or her a man of God or woman of God who have the calling of God? (6) The people that were called Men of God( prophets) or the Apostles in the Bible,what was their Ethics / ID ( identity )?

1.Who is a man of God?

Someone who has the call of God upon his/her life to serve in ministry as listed in
Ephesians 4:11-12
And he gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ


but in a generic sense, every christain is a man of God. So I can see a fellow christain and greet “good moring MOG”

therealMcCain: Let me share a short story, in school then, my pastor ask us to invest in a particular business he was running, he never told us the business, just said we shouldn't worry abt that & he made it clear it wasn't a seed, that it was an investment.

he was later transferred, I never got my money back nor profit

I remembered when I called him, he spoke to me in a manner I didn't like.

I felt bad but I thank God that I learnt that lesson with not so much funds(which by the way it was much for a student)

if tomorrow a pastors sells the same line for me, no matter what, I won't bulge, regardless of whether it's a land deal or car sale whatever... Especially if he is not known for that trade or profession

I felt so bad then because I went against what I had read in financial books

I've learnt my lessons & I share this lesson with people within my sphere of contact but I don't bash the pastor for it!!!

datmix: @OP I hope you're not a working in coza...

Pls I'll to state it here that I'm not a member of
COZA, neither do I have affiliations with them.

The thrust of my write up was show what scripture had to say to the best of my understanding.

In my years of being a christian, I have come to know that there is God's business & Man's business. At every time something is said from the pulpit I ask myself, is it for the glory of man
or glory of God. Having a personal walk with God & a growing understanding of scriptures will help u discern that

So the world has changed & its wise we heed the words of Jesus... Be wise as serpents

To the sisters out there, whether the allegation is true or false, learn from this & don't be so trusting

Eg a brother asks me to come to the hotel, no problem there is the lobby, restaurant or pool side to meet, all room meetings are ruled out

when staying amongst pastors & co, dress appropriately

Most times there are subtle signs before such things occurs, when you notice them pull out of that dept or do something drastic

If a leader touches you in church, scream out, don't compromise

in trying to reason & consider the Shame u'll cause, you get into deeper mess

just my thoughts,am not throwing blame pls

Let me share a short story, in school then, my pastor ask us to invest in a particular business he was running, he never told us the business, just said we shouldn't worry abt that & he made it clear it wasn't a seed, that it was an investment.

he was later transferred, I never got my money back nor profit

I remembered when I called him, he spoke to me in a manner I didn't like.

I felt bad but I thank God that I learnt that lesson with not so much funds(which by the way it was much for a student)

if tomorrow a pastors sells the same line for me, no matter what I won't bulge, regardless of whether it's a land deal or car sale whatever... Especially if he is not known for that trade or profession

I felt so bad then because I went against what I had in financial books

Pls I'll to state it here that I'm not a member of COZA, neither do I have affiliations with them.

The thrust of my write up was show what scripture had to say to the best of my understanding.

In my years of being a christian, I have come to know that there is God's business & Man's business. At every time something is said from the pulpit I ask myself, is it for the glory of man or glory of God. Having a personal walk with God & a growing understanding of scriptures will help u discern that

lady gogo: *smh* at this leaving everything to God mentality.Religious nazis! It's so damn nauseating! If Adeboye, yes Adeboye were found to have murdered or slept with your loved one will you leave everything to God and let him judge.? WHy do we have Law courts in the first place if we arent supposed to judge anyone?

We also need to learn how to start airing our opinions without quoting scripture passages. "you know the Bible says" What makes you think the person you are talking to is a christian let alone believes in a supreme being?

the last time I checked, it's a Christian church that was accused & it's operating guide is the bible!! what else an I going to use to buttress my point?

besides this is the religion section, if any one wants to buttress his/her point, to show you're a good student of your creed, you ought to use manual regardless of your religion

nep2ra: ...and the ignorant dumbo only gave examples of God's dealings with Jews. Give us examples closer to home. Show us examples of how God dealt with Africans especially Nigerians regarding an issue like this.

Mental slavery at its peak!

Thanks for the insult, no Nigerian was ever mentioned in the bible, how then can I give you examples from there?

Oohrhii: Simple.. question oh.. the silly pastor say hin dey wait to release comprehensive reply..who needs comprehensive..

We don her the story from Ese.. your own na to say..You mess her or NOT!.

@OP Am sorry oh.. but if i get you right what you are trying to say is to keep worshiping under the fake anointing even when we know its Fake!!

You are pathetic.. Did you even read the bible part that talks about where you sow your seeds? You wan make i dey SOW on Rock.. or amidst thorns?

SMH

Here in lies your answer, it was in my post

"this doesn’t mean you cant switch church when
you find out that the doctrines are wrong or
that the pastor is not practicing what he
preaches."

i'm amazed with 78 views, just 2 comments!!

Someone says this is all old testament, lets delve in into the new testament
Acts 23:1-5

Vs 2
The high priest commanded Paul to be slapped

Vs 3
Paul cursed them
Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: and sittest thou to judge me according to the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law

Vs 4-5
And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest?
And Paul said, I knew not, brethren, that he was high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of a ruler of thy people

He was informed that, that was the high priest and paul apologized

Whether paul was right or wrong was no longer the issue but that he spoke against the high priest. Don’t you think that paul had every right to claim his grounds considering the fact that what he was saying was the correct thing


Finally the big one
Matthew 23:2-3
saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses seat:
all things therefore whatsoever they bid you, these do and observe: but do not ye after their works for they say, and do not.;

In essence do what I say and not what I do. From this you find out that nobody has an excuse for not receiving salvation or going to church. JESUS says so long as you are taught from Gods word, do it and don’t give any excuse that because the pastor is not preaching what he says, so I wont go to church, I wont pray, I wont give, I wont forgive, etc you get the drift

this doesn’t mean you cant switch church when you find out that the doctrines are wrong or that the pastor is not practicing what he preaches.

History is replete with Pastors who stole, raped, committed atrocities some lost their way completely while others bounced back. So leave the judgment for God and don’t get punished for a crime you had no business with

Summary: Go to church, serve God and most importantly know Gods word for yourself, that way you wont easily be swayed or discouraged.

From all scriptures you find that God has a way of dealing with his people and servants, it is not in our place to pass judgement on them. Leave the church leaders to the God that called them
This doesn’t mean that they cant be scolded or disciplined. There is grounds for that but it has to be done by someone who has that authority. For example, In a church if a deacon does something wrong, the pastor is there to correct that one. If it’s a senior pastor, the General overseer can do that.

But if it’s the G.O that’s does something wrong, fellow G.O’s from other ministry can do that or organizations like CAN & PFN can come in.

If he/she refuses such, you then leave them to God. It will be wrong for a member to do the scolding or disciplining. Miraims case will buttress my point

How many of you will come back from work to find out that your child has been mercilessly beaten by the maiguard or househelp, will you be happy?? Regardless of what your child has done, you feel its your right as a parent to do the disciplining!! (am not talking about a maid spanking your kid or asking him/her to kneel)

Same with God!!!!!!

Please read the entire write up before you crucify me….
I will cite examples from scriptures to backup what I have to say

Numbers 12:1-10
1. When Moses married an Cushite woman, it was against the law and possible penalty was expulsion from the camp of Israelites(They weren’t suppose to marry outside the tribe of israel).

In Vs 1-2
And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married; for he had married a Cushite woman.
And they said, Hath Jehovah indeed spoken only with Moses? hath he not spoken also with us? And Jehovah heard it

In Vs 4-9
God came into the matter, the issue was no longer Moses breaking the law, but what gave Aaron & Miriam the right to talk in the matter(don’t forget Miriam was a prophetess and Aaron a high priest)

In Vs 10
Miriam was struck with leprosy and it took the same Moses(who had done a wrong thing to intercede on her behalf)


1 Samuel 1:13
And this man went up out of his city from year to year to worship and to sacrifice unto Jehovah of hosts in Shiloh. And the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, priests unto Jehovah, were there.


1 Samuel 2:12-17
Vs 12 Now the sons of Eli were base men; they knew not Jehovah
Vs 17 And the sin of the young men was very great before Jehovah; for the men despised the offering of Jehovah

1 Samuel 2:22(notice the very thing that the pastor is being accused of is what the sons of eli did)
Now Eli was very old; and he heard all that his sons did unto all Israel, and how that they lay with the women that did service at the door of the tent of meeting.

1 samuel 2:27-34
God comes into the matter and declares their end

1 samuel 4:11
And the ark of God was taken; and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were slain.

Someone says this is all old testament, lets delve in into the new testament
Acts 23:1-5

Vs 2
The high priest commanded Paul to be slapped

Vs 3
Paul cursed them
Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: and sittest thou to judge me according to the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law

Vs 4-5
And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest?
And Paul said, I knew not, brethren, that he was high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of a ruler of thy people

He was informed that, that was the high priest and paul apologized

Whether paul was right or wrong was no longer the issue but that he spoke against the high priest. Don’t you think that paul had every right to claim his grounds considering the fact that what he was saying was the correct thing


Finally the big one
Matthew 23:2-3
saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses seat:
all things therefore whatsoever they bid you, these do and observe: but do not ye after their works for they say, and do not.;

In essence do what I say and not what I do. From this you find out that nobody has an excuse for not receiving salvation or going to church. JESUS says so long as you are taught from Gods word, do it and don’t give any excuse that because the pastor is not preaching what he says, so I wont go to church, I wont pray, I wont give, I wont forgive, etc you get the drift

this doesn’t mean you cant switch church when you find out that the doctrines are wrong or that the pastor is not practicing what he preaches.

History is replete with Pastors who stole, raped, committed atrocities some lost their way completely while others bounced back. So leave the judgment for God and don’t get punished for a crime you had no business with

Summary: Go to church, serve God and most importantly know Gods word for yourself, that way you wont easily be swayed or discouraged.

From all scriptures you find that God has a way of dealing with his people and servants, it is not in our place to pass judgement on them. Leave the church leaders to the God that called them
This doesn’t mean that they cant be scolded or disciplined. There is grounds for that but it has to be done by someone who has that authority. For example, In a church if a deacon does something wrong, the pastor is there to correct that one. If it’s a senior pastor, the General overseer can do that.

But if it’s the G.O that’s does something wrong, fellow G.O’s from other ministry can do that or organizations like CAN & PFN can come in.

If he/she refuses such, you then leave them to God. It will be wrong for a member to do the scolding or disciplining. Miraims case will buttress my point

How many of you will come back from work to find out that your child has been mercilessly beaten by the maiguard or househelp, will you be happy?? Regardless of what your child has done, you feel its your right as a parent to do the disciplining!! (am not talking about a maid spanking your kid or asking him/her to kneel)

Same with God!!!!!!

Please read the entire write up before you crucify me….
I will cite examples from scriptures to backup what I have to say

Numbers 12:1-10
1. When Moses married an Cushite woman, it was against the law and possible penalty was expulsion from the camp of Israelites(They weren’t suppose to marry outside the tribe of israel).

In Vs 1-2
And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married; for he had married a Cushite woman.
And they said, Hath Jehovah indeed spoken only with Moses? hath he not spoken also with us? And Jehovah heard it

In Vs 4-9
God came into the matter, the issue was no longer Moses breaking the law, but what gave Aaron & Miriam the right to talk in the matter(don’t forget Miriam was a prophetess and Aaron a high priest)

In Vs 10
Miriam was struck with leprosy and it took the same Moses(who had done a wrong thing to intercede on her behalf)


1 Samuel 1:13
And this man went up out of his city from year to year to worship and to sacrifice unto Jehovah of hosts in Shiloh. And the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, priests unto Jehovah, were there.


1 Samuel 2:12-17
Vs 12 Now the sons of Eli were base men; they knew not Jehovah
Vs 17 And the sin of the young men was very great before Jehovah; for the men despised the offering of Jehovah

1 Samuel 2:22(notice the very thing that the pastor is being accused of is what the sons of eli did)
Now Eli was very old; and he heard all that his sons did unto all Israel, and how that they lay with the women that did service at the door of the tent of meeting.

1 samuel 2:27-34
God comes into the matter and declares their end

1 samuel 4:11
And the ark of God was taken; and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were slain.

hello house I've a Beng in electrical/electronics Eng. I'm 28yrs. i'm currently working with a local contracting firm in a Gas Plant construction project as
an instrument technician with 1yr 5months experience.

Working with a local contractor isn't encouraging in terms of pay & welfare package etc what can I do to increase my chance of securing a better paying job in O & G industry

I plan going for master nxt yr, is this neccessary or certifications will be enough & if yes, what certification should I do to enhance my employability

Thanks

^^^ thanks but why if i may ask

hello house

I've a Beng in electrical/electronics Eng with a weak CGP of 2.58. I'm 28yrs. i'm currently working in a Gas Plant construction project, as an instrument technician with 1yr 5months experience.

I plan to go for my masters in 2014 abroad, i'm looking at Msc in instrumentation or enginering management or process control or automation.

Am beginning to discover that most schools abroad don't consider 2:2, so pls what are my options, I don't want to do 1yr pdg before masters that will gulp a lot of money

I know I misused my undergraduate opportunity but I want to correct all that now, my aim is to get a job in any of the multinational companies

Any ideas as to the best career path, choice of study, country(US & Uk) & school

Thanks