₦airaland Forum

I'm angry as I type this now & i want the house to be the judge

GeorgeD1 put up an ad for his panels for 30k, he stated he had SHARP and SUNTECH panels for sale 200w each, he equally stated that it was 1st come first serve basis

Immediately after his post I was first to indicate interest.


We spoke LAST WEEK and he told me he was not in town & that i should hold on with payment, that the panels will be RESERVED FOR ME.

SARTURDAY HE CALLED that he was in town & I promised to make payment on MONDAY which I did.

I paid for 4 panels including courier fee, the delivery date was Thursday/Friday which I agreed to.

Its worthwhile to mention that when the panels were put up for sale, the picture of the panels were MONO

When he later did a test on them using a multimeter, the pictures were also MONO

Imagine my disappointment when I went to pick my panel to see that they were POLY panels with no sticker or nameplate behind.

I am not happy at all. I called him, I couldn't really process what he was saying, background
Was noisy & i was really disappointed & down

It was when I got home to check the name plate, ALL 4 panels had no nameplate!

I called again & he promised to send a pic of rhe name plate from the initial installation


How do i know that these are really SHARP panels as I requested?

I am weak, disoriented & angry

efuro:
But your statement below:
“The location of the CC in my balcony is safe from
water but battery at ground level won't be” I can't put my inverter there !

Shows you don’t have a problem (at least to me). However, I wonder why you can’t put inverter there?. If it is for security reason, I can reason with you. Solar devices are very expensive & attractive to undesirable elements, it’s when they are safe that you can enjoy 24hrs power.

Thanks

I will send a snapshot of the balcony later

I intend installing the CC up but if the battery is placed at ground level, it will be exposed to rain cos water gets there when it rains

Secondly, everyone entering my flat will see my setup at once which I don't quite like, then there is the issue of operating the inverter by coming out of the house

My journey for RE has started,

I have the following

1. 1400va Kevin inverter 24v
2. Epever 30a, 100v CC
3. 4×200w solar panels, acquired from our uncle in the house, GeorgeD1( yet to be received though)
4.watt meter

I rewired the house & have a dedicated DB for the inverter


Outstanding

1.Pv connection cable
2.breakers
3.BATTERIES
4.combiner box
5.Pv mounting kit or frame should I choose ground mount
6.earthing protection for Pv & inverter DB

CC
Dmerciful
GeorgeD1
Efuro
Bigrovar
Juo
Abunafiu

More questions coming please
1. The max for my CC is 780w, can I use the 4 panels totalling 800w?

If yes what's my best way of connecting them?

2. If my CC Max rating is 30a, won't it be a problem if my CC is producing almost this on a constant basis because of my 800w setup

3.can I use normal 10mm cable or it's best I go for the amoured cable

Distance from panel to CC will be 7m

Distance from CC to battery will be 12m


These distances is a result of optimum position for the inverter & battery

The location of the CC in my balcony is safe from water but battery at ground level won't be

Should i work out a way to put the battery there, I can't put my inverter there

Meaning if my CC & battery is at Same location, my inverter will be inside the house 12m away from Battery

Option 2

Run cable straight from Pv to CC-battery-inverter all located inside the house, 19m

My only concern with this option is ventilation

So how do I go about this please

New look indeed!

Is there a "new" maintenance culture now?

The nauseating custom/immigration officers, do they have a new attitude

GeorgeD1:
only a few pcs remaining.
almost gone!

My oga, I have been waiting for your call o

Kindly reserve my 4 pieces o

GeorgeD1:
I replied you but email was returned by mailer demon. all the same I got your message. I will call you to discuss. cheers!

Pls i need 4 pieces

I will weep if I miss this opportunuty

Phone is faster than mails

You can call me now, it seems you are still online

GeorgeD1:
all,

happy easter to everyone in the house. as stated earlier, i'm clearing out my solar modules
to pave way for the major systems upgrade which is currently on-going.

so i'm giving out my original sharp and suntech panels to the lucky few who are quick enough
to grab this offer.

wattage: 200w each
price: 30k each

minimum order qty is 2pcs

it will be on first come, first serve basis.

Oga sir, present sir

Pls how do I reach u?

Here is my number

mayorall:
Aliexpress goes with daily dollar rate. #412 today from aboki

Pls i'm at sea, how is this a quote

Lstar4real:
[/b] Contact us always to order your goods through us....We ship faster and our shipping cost are cheaper....Thanks [b]

Kindly give me a quote

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32798699007.html

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32757683749.html

BizBloke

Kindly give me a quote

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32798699007.html

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32757683749.html

mayorall:
$125

$20 to be paid when item arrived.

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32798699007.html

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32757683749.html

Kindly give me a quote for both items

xij38580:
Around June last year, i tried getting my renewable system up and running but with the crazy exchange rate I had to abandon it. I have the following items for sale that I've not been able to use

1)iCell 12V 1.5KVA Inverter (80k)
2)Two 200W CSUN solar panels(60k)
3)Circuit breaker (4k each)
4)Epever MPPT solar charge controller (35k)
5)Kilowatt-Hour Energy Meter (5k)

What's ur contact info pls
Pls send me a mail
webworkcreation@gmail.com

GeorgeD1:
harveyspec,
yeah. as a matter of fact, i might offload some of my fairly-used modules
at mouth-watering prices

Pls i'm interested, kindly let me know when the time comes

Gracias

xij38580:
Around June last year, i tried getting my renewable system up and running but with the crazy exchange rate I had to abandon it. I have the following items that I've not been able to use

1)iCell 12V 1.5KVA Inverter
2)Two 200W CSUN solar panels
3)Circuit breaker
4)Epever MPPT solar charge controller
5)Kilowatt-Hour Energy Meter

So what do you plan to do next? Sell them off or wait for dollar crash

Liveair:
Available.

Still awaiting your response

Liveair:
Available.

I'm interested too

Webworkcreation@gmail.com

No one

deflover:
Xbox one console + 1 pad + 2latest adventure CDs (tomb raider & hallo5) + preloaded games
90k price

Does it have Kinect, don't want to buy parts & pieces. Besides Xbox one is way expensive than 360. Hence the need for 360 except the Xbox 1 isn't too expensive

I need an Xbox 360 with kinect, the Kinect is the major reason I want the game.

I need an Xbox 360 with kinect, the Kinect is the major reason I want the game.

herzern:
Op.....lemme explain

you own a viewing centre....A boy came to play ps3 worth of 5000 naira...yhu switched on your generator and he played till his satisfaction
Later on...The Parent came and said the 5k was stolen by the boy.......will yhu return it??
The truth is....you rendered the service already....there is nothing you can do about it.....Products can be returned but Services...mba!

Don't worry, let that money be marked & let it be part of the money missing as a result of robbery either from the home or bank or church

Let police find that money with you, then explain to the police that you rendered 5k services. When this happens come & tell me the outcome?

hero2000:
I agree with you on the DISCO thing. Prepaid meters must be given to everyone to avoid the exploitation.

But our people too may start by-passing. Nevertheless, it is the responsibility of DISCO to device a technique to identify by-passers.

I Mean its crazy, you give outrageous bills & at the same time you make it difficult for folks to get paid meters

As for bypass, there should be strict penalty for defaulters, hefty fine or imprisonment.

There are some prepaid that are mounted on the electric pole, what is mounted in-house is d key pad? I don't know if that can be bypassed, I saw it being used in Abuja

DISCO's are ripping us off!!

Go thru this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3227574/stressful-procedure-acquiring-prepaid-meters

hero2000:
I doubt you read a quarter of the piece but here you are showing your dislike for intellectual reasoning. It is like a child who cries (or wails!) to mummy that he wants to eat and mummy says the gas just finished and that she would go and buy kerosene to complete the cooking. The little child most likely not understand that 'epistle'. All the child wants is food! Whether the mum has to cut his hand for him to eat he doesn't give a damn!

I love your analogy, before I stumbled on this piece, I had a falling out with someone on Twitter, asking him what has been dobe about power

He directed me to this piece, I then understood the enormity of the problems.

There is also a 2010 power roadmap, I will read that & out up my thoughts too(it's over 150pages),

Nigerians don't like the word process, they want quick fix.

As I stated earlier, even if they genco's generate 12,000MW how do you transmit it when our national grid can't take more than 5,000MW?

The national grid can't be upgraded within a year. Some industrial quipments take nothing less than 7months-1yr to procure & deliver

I just tire, my major grouse is the DISCO's that are ripping is off

Abeg I don tire to copy & paste. The full speech can be read here

http://www.nigeriaelectricityhub.com/?p=6455

Having read it all, I can now see that there is no immiediate solution to our power problem.

Even if all the turbines were working & 12,000MW was generated, the transmission company cannot transmit it.

Greed, selfish interest & corruption has caused the rot in the power sector?

What i dont understand is why are the DISCO's untouchable?

What gives them the balls to act with impunity?

Why can't they be severly sanctioned?

Maybe they have bribed NERC

To me, NERC is a toothless local breed dog!

No investment whatsoever on the DISCO's
part

They wont provide prepaid meters inspite of the fact that the consumer paid for it

They won't replace fallen poles or faulty transformers, they will wait for the community or street to raise the funds

Ladies and gentlemen, the roadmap to steady power also requires that reportage of power issues should be accurate.

One of the recent inaccurate reports related to CAPMI, the Credit Advance Payment Metering Initiative ,was that I had scrapped it . This is not correct.


What is correct is that since the DisCos now have a market tariff it is their responsibility to find meters as a basis for collection. I think it is unfair to collect money for meters and not supply it within the agreed time.


The correct Resolution passed at our meeting in Enugu was that DisCos should now fund the supply of meters and wind down the Credit Advance programme gradually, so that the burden of funding meters is not perpetually placed on consumers.


The responsibility of Consumers is to pay their Bills for energy they consume not to finance meters.

Our March 2016 monthly meeting further resolved that where DisCos have collected money, they should supply the meters and stop collecting more money; instead they should use their resources to provide meters.

This project has been in conception since 1982. It has suffered from court delays. But it sits very well with the energy mix that I spoke about earlier. It will be the single largest power plant with over 3000 MW in one place and it potentially takes us close to steady power.

I recently read reports claiming that Mambilla hydropower plant is “stalled.”


Nothing can be further from the truth.

To stall means to stop. Mambilla has not started so you cannot stop what has not started.


We have opened discussions with the Governor of Taraba state, Governor Dickson Ishaku, who incidentally was once a Minister of State for Power. The first thing to do is to acquire the land and deal with compensation issues, which the Governor has promised to deal with.


The next step is to create an earth road to the site to enable more tests of soil and related issues to take place.

The feasibility study has been done and so too the Environmental Impact Assessment.

We move one day at a time closer to starting Mambilla.


But while we’re at it Mambila alone , may not give us steady power. We must know how many we are, so that we can meet the per capita demand of each citizen for power supply.

Steady Power

While I am optimistic about our plans for incremental power, it is steady power that takes us closer to our goal.

Power cannot be steady unless is is enough. Not only must it be enough, we must create excess capacity. The necessity for excess capacity is discernible from what I have said about the need for maintenance repairs and replacements in places like Kainji, Jebba and other plants.


Powerplants and turbines are not different from our generators at home. If you have only one and it needs to be fixed, it cannot produce power during repairs.

What other countries with steady power do, is to have more than enough, so that while they repair damaged, broken or aging ones, they switch to reserves or excess capacity.


That is what we must do.

Our roadmap to steady power must include the construction and delivery of the Mambilla Hydro power plant in Taraba state.

The related challenge which we are working on is the logistics of warehousing, transportation, inventory and matters related thereto, so that the problem is not transferred from the port to an inland storage. This is part of our roadmap to incremental power. To Transport the power that we plan to produce.


Of course out of the 126 difficult existing contracts plagued by court cases, compensation disputes, way leave challenges, which I mentioned, we have identified 47 which are prepared for completion this year through the 2016 budget. This is the roadmap to incremental power.

But in addition to this immediate plan, TCN has expressed a desire to increase transmission capacity from 5000 MW to 7000 MW, 10,000 MW to 13,000 MW to 16,000 MW and 20,000 MW over 5(FIVE) years from this year.


We have demanded and there are now working to provide us with an implementation plan for each stage; including the detail quantities, design, way leave, cost and everything that will facilitate efficient project implementation


We are also looking at technical possibilities that support the decentralization of the grid while keeping them interconnected.


This will help us take up offers of private investment that ensures that investors can ring fence and collect revenues ­­­­wheeling charges for the power they help to transmit or transport.

Ladies and gentlemen, this may sound long, but I assure you it is only a summary.


I will now attempt to deal with steady power and uninterrupted power.

Transmission

However, there is the challenge of transmission, which is the transportation of the power from the generation plants, to the distribution companies who then take it to the homes, offices, factories etc.

This work is done by the Transmission Company of Nigeria (TCN) which was not privatized.

They transport power by building transmission towers and stringing electricity cables, which we call high tension wires here, and installing Transmission, Transformers and so on.


Today they can only transport 5000 MW. That is all we have done since 1950. We must do more and we are on the way.


There are currently about 126 projects awarded for this purpose but with all sorts of problems.

About 907 containers of various equipment imported in the ports, paid for, have been abandoned with demurrage, port charges and all sorts of costs by contractors who have deserted their contracts.

Approvals have been given by Mr. President for their release, we have met with Customs, the shippers, the warehouse owners and operators all of whom have shown an inspiring sense of patriotism to release their containers. These meetings are being chaired by the Vice President.


The containers, expectedly contain all sorts of equipment , which hopefully when recovered will help solve some of our transmission problems.

Other examples are Zungeru Power Plant, meant to deliver 700 MW in Niger state but which was held up in court for several years.



Although the project is now three years behind, the dispute has been resolved, parties are out of court, over 800 workers are back on site and this should deliver incremental power.


There is also the 215 MW plant in Kaduna which was designed to use gas, which is several hundred kilometers away from gas sources. While we are working to consider alternative and sustainable fuel supply, we have resolved never to site power plants far away from their fuel source.

To achieve this, we are working round-the-clock within the ministry, and with other ministries like Solid Minerals, Water Resources and Ministry of Environment, to deliver an energy mix that will assist power production, investors and all stakeholders on how to site solar power in the North, Hydro Power in the North and North-Central, Coal in the North Central and South East and gas in the South-West and South-South.



This is our roadmap to incremental power, because it not only makes the power cheaper, if the fuel is nearer, but it makes it easier to plan and execute transmission plan, to ensure the power is evacuated and distributed.



Other imminent power sources are the 40MW Kasimbilla power plant, the Katsina 10 MW wind and the 222 MW Gbarain plant in Bayelsa State.