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My system is up

2x2 config was done for the panel's

16mm flex cable was used from PV-CC-BATTERY

20amp DC breaker was used btw PV-CC

A new grounding was done for the panels & inverter DB. Each panel was linked with 2.5mm cable & connected to the new earth copper rod


My batteries are 200amp POWERSAFE batteries(fairly used though)

Upon reciept of the batteries, multimeter reading for each battery was 12.9v & 13.1v respectively

I finally opted for the balcony, though the setup is still a little bit crude, covered part of the protector with tapolin to prevent rain water


Haven't been around to monitor it but I know i haven't seen above 2A on my CC but i get as high as 78v

setup was done late Saturday, Sunday & Monday, cloudy days & i wasn't really around too

When the batterry was connected to CC, it was at 25v, later became 28.8v after setup on that Saturday, much much later though

Since the battery was almost charged, I don't know if that's why I'm getting low amps from the CC


Issues

1. My inverter gives out this sound every 7minutes with no indicator lights coming on

2. When I'm charging the inverter with NEPA even though the inverter is OFF, it still supplies, why is this ?

3. I have noticed this incident with 3 sockets in the house: when a load is connected to these sockets, when the switch is put on, the inverter trips, the short circuit/over load light will come on

I know it isn't overload cos what I plugged was phone charger, at another time it was a rechargeable fan, what could be wrong?

Once i put off the inverter and put it back on, evrything works well, even if u switch off that same socket off and on, it doesn't trip again

If the inverter is switched off for a long time & it's put on again, the same thing will happen again

4. One of the socket is the type that has a led indicator, if the switch is off & you plug ur appliance mid way, that light will come on
Is this a wiring issue or the socket is Bad or it's an inverter issue?

Remember the lighting points & sockets for inverter has its own DB different from NEPA DB

CC
efuro
Bigrovar
Earthrealm
DMerciful

GeorgeD1:
therealmccain,
brother, we have already discussed so no need to bring this up in public space.
the panels i had on sale were a mix of poly and mono. i could have upped the price
for the mono but for personal reasons, i decided to give them all away same price.
when i posted the price and specs on this thread i neither indicated which type of
panels i was giving out only that it was 200w. if you say you are angry because i
sent you poly panels then its rather regrettable because you didn't specifically
indicate you were after mono panels. as for nameplate, i did promise to send you
details on watsapp which you agreed to. besides, the history of every single one of
my modules are replete on the pages of this thread like an open book for everyone
to read.
should you still have any other issues you want cleared up, kindly reach me via my
mobile and lets resolve. i don't believe we should regale honorable members here
with back and forth posts over what could be regarded as a private matter.

i'm sorry for the heartache this might have caused you but i assure you it was not
intentional.

It's not my intention to cast shades on you. Your contributions on this thread has been invaluable & you know your onions that's one of the reasons I didn't go into details request such as asking for pics of panels or nameplate etc

That being said, I AM NOT of the opinion too that you misrepresented the fact on purpose or you were out to defraud me. I was angry & feeling very bad, I felt I had been decieved & a smart one has been played on me.

The keyword here is "feelings


The efficiency of Mono Vs Poly isn't the issue here but was I believed I was buying, I felt I needed to know, it was my perogative to have that info & make a decision. I am sure the house can empathise with this feeling.

I refused to buy zeestones used panel when i discovered they were poly, so imgaine how i felt when i saw that these panels were Poly.

That being said, I guess the house can learn from this, No assumptions should be made when service or goods are being offered REGARDLESS of who is offerring them.

Seller should give all details & buyer should equally ask questions.

People buy things or do things for ONLY 2 reasons

1. Logical reasons

2.emotional reasons

It's very typical of Nigerian sellers to always assume what's important/necessary to the buyer which I believe it's wrong.

Typical Nigerian scenario, why you dey give me black biro, not be blue I pay for?

Oga nor be house u say u wan use am, blue & black biro na the same thing, infact this blue biro na from US, that blue wey u dey find na Aba full market

If I wanted a black biro because my late father or friend always used black, all arguments of blue biro being equally being good or the best will be futile.

Everyone knows when it comes to panels, type in terms of Mono/poly & its ratings are key factors

It is also a known fact that most folks tend to go for mono or would love to go for Mono. So I believe that should always be stated clearly

On foreign classified Ad sites, on the average the seller takes time to give item description or a picture & states the condition whether its "As is" or not, i think we should all emulate that

Once more I brought this to the house to serve as a learning incident & not in any way to soil Mr GeorgeD1 reputation

I'm angry as I type this now & i want the house to be the judge

GeorgeD1 put up an ad for his panels for 30k, he stated he had SHARP and SUNTECH panels for sale 200w each, he equally stated that it was 1st come first serve basis

Immediately after his post I was first to indicate interest.


We spoke LAST WEEK and he told me he was not in town & that i should hold on with payment, that the panels will be RESERVED FOR ME.

SARTURDAY HE CALLED that he was in town & I promised to make payment on MONDAY which I did.

I paid for 4 panels including courier fee, the delivery date was Thursday/Friday which I agreed to.

Its worthwhile to mention that when the panels were put up for sale, the picture of the panels were MONO

When he later did a test on them using a multimeter, the pictures were also MONO

Imagine my disappointment when I went to pick my panel to see that they were POLY panels with no sticker or nameplate behind.

I am not happy at all. I called him, I couldn't really process what he was saying, background
Was noisy & i was really disappointed & down

It was when I got home to check the name plate, ALL 4 panels had no nameplate!

I called again & he promised to send a pic of rhe name plate from the initial installation


How do i know that these are really SHARP panels as I requested?

I am weak, disoriented & angry

efuro:
But your statement below:
“The location of the CC in my balcony is safe from
water but battery at ground level won't be” I can't put my inverter there !

Shows you don’t have a problem (at least to me). However, I wonder why you can’t put inverter there?. If it is for security reason, I can reason with you. Solar devices are very expensive & attractive to undesirable elements, it’s when they are safe that you can enjoy 24hrs power.

Thanks

I will send a snapshot of the balcony later

I intend installing the CC up but if the battery is placed at ground level, it will be exposed to rain cos water gets there when it rains

Secondly, everyone entering my flat will see my setup at once which I don't quite like, then there is the issue of operating the inverter by coming out of the house

My journey for RE has started,

I have the following

1. 1400va Kevin inverter 24v
2. Epever 30a, 100v CC
3. 4×200w solar panels, acquired from our uncle in the house, GeorgeD1( yet to be received though)
4.watt meter

I rewired the house & have a dedicated DB for the inverter


Outstanding

1.Pv connection cable
2.breakers
3.BATTERIES
4.combiner box
5.Pv mounting kit or frame should I choose ground mount
6.earthing protection for Pv & inverter DB

CC
Dmerciful
GeorgeD1
Efuro
Bigrovar
Juo
Abunafiu

More questions coming please
1. The max for my CC is 780w, can I use the 4 panels totalling 800w?

If yes what's my best way of connecting them?

2. If my CC Max rating is 30a, won't it be a problem if my CC is producing almost this on a constant basis because of my 800w setup

3.can I use normal 10mm cable or it's best I go for the amoured cable

Distance from panel to CC will be 7m

Distance from CC to battery will be 12m


These distances is a result of optimum position for the inverter & battery

The location of the CC in my balcony is safe from water but battery at ground level won't be

Should i work out a way to put the battery there, I can't put my inverter there

Meaning if my CC & battery is at Same location, my inverter will be inside the house 12m away from Battery

Option 2

Run cable straight from Pv to CC-battery-inverter all located inside the house, 19m

My only concern with this option is ventilation

So how do I go about this please

New look indeed!

Is there a "new" maintenance culture now?

The nauseating custom/immigration officers, do they have a new attitude

GeorgeD1:
only a few pcs remaining.
almost gone!

My oga, I have been waiting for your call o

Kindly reserve my 4 pieces o

GeorgeD1:
I replied you but email was returned by mailer demon. all the same I got your message. I will call you to discuss. cheers!

Pls i need 4 pieces

I will weep if I miss this opportunuty

Phone is faster than mails

You can call me now, it seems you are still online

GeorgeD1:
all,

happy easter to everyone in the house. as stated earlier, i'm clearing out my solar modules
to pave way for the major systems upgrade which is currently on-going.

so i'm giving out my original sharp and suntech panels to the lucky few who are quick enough
to grab this offer.

wattage: 200w each
price: 30k each

minimum order qty is 2pcs

it will be on first come, first serve basis.

Oga sir, present sir

Pls how do I reach u?

Here is my number

mayorall:
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xij38580:
Around June last year, i tried getting my renewable system up and running but with the crazy exchange rate I had to abandon it. I have the following items for sale that I've not been able to use

1)iCell 12V 1.5KVA Inverter (80k)
2)Two 200W CSUN solar panels(60k)
3)Circuit breaker (4k each)
4)Epever MPPT solar charge controller (35k)
5)Kilowatt-Hour Energy Meter (5k)

What's ur contact info pls
Pls send me a mail
webworkcreation@gmail.com

GeorgeD1:
harveyspec,
yeah. as a matter of fact, i might offload some of my fairly-used modules
at mouth-watering prices

Pls i'm interested, kindly let me know when the time comes

Gracias

xij38580:
Around June last year, i tried getting my renewable system up and running but with the crazy exchange rate I had to abandon it. I have the following items that I've not been able to use

1)iCell 12V 1.5KVA Inverter
2)Two 200W CSUN solar panels
3)Circuit breaker
4)Epever MPPT solar charge controller
5)Kilowatt-Hour Energy Meter

So what do you plan to do next? Sell them off or wait for dollar crash

Liveair:
Available.

Still awaiting your response

Liveair:
Available.

I'm interested too

Webworkcreation@gmail.com

No one

deflover:
Xbox one console + 1 pad + 2latest adventure CDs (tomb raider & hallo5) + preloaded games
90k price

Does it have Kinect, don't want to buy parts & pieces. Besides Xbox one is way expensive than 360. Hence the need for 360 except the Xbox 1 isn't too expensive

I need an Xbox 360 with kinect, the Kinect is the major reason I want the game.

I need an Xbox 360 with kinect, the Kinect is the major reason I want the game.

herzern:
Op.....lemme explain

you own a viewing centre....A boy came to play ps3 worth of 5000 naira...yhu switched on your generator and he played till his satisfaction
Later on...The Parent came and said the 5k was stolen by the boy.......will yhu return it??
The truth is....you rendered the service already....there is nothing you can do about it.....Products can be returned but Services...mba!

Don't worry, let that money be marked & let it be part of the money missing as a result of robbery either from the home or bank or church

Let police find that money with you, then explain to the police that you rendered 5k services. When this happens come & tell me the outcome?

hero2000:
I agree with you on the DISCO thing. Prepaid meters must be given to everyone to avoid the exploitation.

But our people too may start by-passing. Nevertheless, it is the responsibility of DISCO to device a technique to identify by-passers.

I Mean its crazy, you give outrageous bills & at the same time you make it difficult for folks to get paid meters

As for bypass, there should be strict penalty for defaulters, hefty fine or imprisonment.

There are some prepaid that are mounted on the electric pole, what is mounted in-house is d key pad? I don't know if that can be bypassed, I saw it being used in Abuja

DISCO's are ripping us off!!

Go thru this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3227574/stressful-procedure-acquiring-prepaid-meters

hero2000:
I doubt you read a quarter of the piece but here you are showing your dislike for intellectual reasoning. It is like a child who cries (or wails!) to mummy that he wants to eat and mummy says the gas just finished and that she would go and buy kerosene to complete the cooking. The little child most likely not understand that 'epistle'. All the child wants is food! Whether the mum has to cut his hand for him to eat he doesn't give a damn!

I love your analogy, before I stumbled on this piece, I had a falling out with someone on Twitter, asking him what has been dobe about power

He directed me to this piece, I then understood the enormity of the problems.

There is also a 2010 power roadmap, I will read that & out up my thoughts too(it's over 150pages),

Nigerians don't like the word process, they want quick fix.

As I stated earlier, even if they genco's generate 12,000MW how do you transmit it when our national grid can't take more than 5,000MW?

The national grid can't be upgraded within a year. Some industrial quipments take nothing less than 7months-1yr to procure & deliver

I just tire, my major grouse is the DISCO's that are ripping is off

Abeg I don tire to copy & paste. The full speech can be read here

http://www.nigeriaelectricityhub.com/?p=6455

Having read it all, I can now see that there is no immiediate solution to our power problem.

Even if all the turbines were working & 12,000MW was generated, the transmission company cannot transmit it.

Greed, selfish interest & corruption has caused the rot in the power sector?

What i dont understand is why are the DISCO's untouchable?

What gives them the balls to act with impunity?

Why can't they be severly sanctioned?

Maybe they have bribed NERC

To me, NERC is a toothless local breed dog!

No investment whatsoever on the DISCO's
part

They wont provide prepaid meters inspite of the fact that the consumer paid for it

They won't replace fallen poles or faulty transformers, they will wait for the community or street to raise the funds

Ladies and gentlemen, the roadmap to steady power also requires that reportage of power issues should be accurate.

One of the recent inaccurate reports related to CAPMI, the Credit Advance Payment Metering Initiative ,was that I had scrapped it . This is not correct.


What is correct is that since the DisCos now have a market tariff it is their responsibility to find meters as a basis for collection. I think it is unfair to collect money for meters and not supply it within the agreed time.


The correct Resolution passed at our meeting in Enugu was that DisCos should now fund the supply of meters and wind down the Credit Advance programme gradually, so that the burden of funding meters is not perpetually placed on consumers.


The responsibility of Consumers is to pay their Bills for energy they consume not to finance meters.

Our March 2016 monthly meeting further resolved that where DisCos have collected money, they should supply the meters and stop collecting more money; instead they should use their resources to provide meters.

This project has been in conception since 1982. It has suffered from court delays. But it sits very well with the energy mix that I spoke about earlier. It will be the single largest power plant with over 3000 MW in one place and it potentially takes us close to steady power.

I recently read reports claiming that Mambilla hydropower plant is “stalled.”


Nothing can be further from the truth.

To stall means to stop. Mambilla has not started so you cannot stop what has not started.


We have opened discussions with the Governor of Taraba state, Governor Dickson Ishaku, who incidentally was once a Minister of State for Power. The first thing to do is to acquire the land and deal with compensation issues, which the Governor has promised to deal with.


The next step is to create an earth road to the site to enable more tests of soil and related issues to take place.

The feasibility study has been done and so too the Environmental Impact Assessment.

We move one day at a time closer to starting Mambilla.


But while we’re at it Mambila alone , may not give us steady power. We must know how many we are, so that we can meet the per capita demand of each citizen for power supply.

Steady Power

While I am optimistic about our plans for incremental power, it is steady power that takes us closer to our goal.

Power cannot be steady unless is is enough. Not only must it be enough, we must create excess capacity. The necessity for excess capacity is discernible from what I have said about the need for maintenance repairs and replacements in places like Kainji, Jebba and other plants.


Powerplants and turbines are not different from our generators at home. If you have only one and it needs to be fixed, it cannot produce power during repairs.

What other countries with steady power do, is to have more than enough, so that while they repair damaged, broken or aging ones, they switch to reserves or excess capacity.


That is what we must do.

Our roadmap to steady power must include the construction and delivery of the Mambilla Hydro power plant in Taraba state.

The related challenge which we are working on is the logistics of warehousing, transportation, inventory and matters related thereto, so that the problem is not transferred from the port to an inland storage. This is part of our roadmap to incremental power. To Transport the power that we plan to produce.


Of course out of the 126 difficult existing contracts plagued by court cases, compensation disputes, way leave challenges, which I mentioned, we have identified 47 which are prepared for completion this year through the 2016 budget. This is the roadmap to incremental power.

But in addition to this immediate plan, TCN has expressed a desire to increase transmission capacity from 5000 MW to 7000 MW, 10,000 MW to 13,000 MW to 16,000 MW and 20,000 MW over 5(FIVE) years from this year.


We have demanded and there are now working to provide us with an implementation plan for each stage; including the detail quantities, design, way leave, cost and everything that will facilitate efficient project implementation


We are also looking at technical possibilities that support the decentralization of the grid while keeping them interconnected.


This will help us take up offers of private investment that ensures that investors can ring fence and collect revenues ­­­­wheeling charges for the power they help to transmit or transport.

Ladies and gentlemen, this may sound long, but I assure you it is only a summary.


I will now attempt to deal with steady power and uninterrupted power.