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TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 6:49pm On Oct 04, 2015
So sorry to hear about that. However, there is no university in Canada anyone on here would recommend that would guarantee you admission (no matter what your GPA is). This is why most applicants make the wise decision of applying to several schools, in order to mitigate the risk of ending up with zero admissions. Risk management is extremely important. I would suggest you apply to 3-4 schools in your next application. Also, since your GPA is not high (it only meets the minimum requirements) it is even much more important that you apply to more schools and prepare a very strong SOP.

Don't be sad bro. It is not the end of the world, you will recover from it as long as you apply strategically next time. Be encouraged.

PS: People on the thread would be able to better help you if you tell us what course you were applying for. Different schools offer different courses. Also, what's your undergraduate degree course?

chucksbadt:
Good morning house. As i type this post, am a very sad man. I just checked my application status for the University Of Regina last night and i found out i wasn't accepted. I waited approximately 2 months for this decision, and that was the only school i applied to. I really don't know where to start at the moment.
Am a graduate of ANUC ghana with a CGPA of 3.08/4. Please someone should recommend a Canadian school for me with a less tedious admission process. Thank you
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 6:34pm On Oct 04, 2015
Hey, welcome to the Canada thread.
The probability of getting a TRV with such "English for Academic Purposes" program, for a Nigerian applicant, is almost exactly zero. I went on the program's website, and I see it is a 13-week program specifically designed to teach English to applicants from countries where English is not the main language. Such a program would imply to the VO (visa officer) that this is just a desperate and quick ploy for you to escape Nigeria. You should either apply for a post-graduate diploma/certificate or masters.

Also, I'd suggest you first think deeply about what it is that you want to study in Canada and why. If you can't convincingly explain to the VO why you are going for whichever course you choose, you would be likely to get a "Purpose of Visit" denial because the VO will not believe that you are a genuine student.

Further, since you have a B.Tech. in Statistics and only recently graduated, I suggest you choose a post-grad course that you can confidently link to statistics or science in general. VOs look for progression of study, which means that they need to be convinced that your prior educational trajectory is connected to whatever course you are going to study in Canada. What this means is that you should be able to convince the VO of why you are going for whatever course you would be studying in Canada. It is ok to change courses, just make sure you can convincingly explain this in an SOP.

In any case, you should try as hard as possible to read at least 100-200 pages of Part 8 of the thread to better inform yourself. It won't be the VO's business that you weren't able to access the internet to better prepare your application. Also, these links might help you.
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TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 11:44pm On Oct 01, 2015
Lumidiski:
Guys, as usual, no question is stupid and I will ask mine.
Haha. I like your spirit already.

Lumidiski:
I have admission for PGD and I have already paid 50% of my fees
1. Can I still apply for Study permit for January start?
2. Can I go and do my medicals ahead, will it save me time?
1. Yes, average processing time is about 8 weeks for students.
2. Yes, I believe it saves time but some people on this thread have other opinions.

Lumidiski:
Now, This is the complex part;
I have a bit of a funny job that means I don't get paid regularly but I get paid well when I do get paid and because of that, my bank statement doesn't have regular inflow but large sums here and there.
Can anyone give me advice on how I can go around this in my application?
Credibly explain it in your SOP and provide proof.

Lumidiski:
Also, I am applying with my family (According to cic.ga, It is allowed) but my issue is the accomodation bit in the financial requirements. would it be sufficient to just show that I have enough funds to cover a year of rent since my school doesn't cater to family housing.
It is best to have more funds than just one year of rent+tuition. But according to the CIC website they claim that demonstrating the availability of just one year's funds is ok. I say you should play it safe with more funds in your account, as some VOs may be unconvinced if the funds in the account are enough for only one year, especially if you are self-sponsor with no source of further income while in Canada.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 4:57pm On Sep 29, 2015
@Mekurexx
We dey friendly nao. smiley
Maybe no one knew the answer to your question that's why it wasn't answered. Also, a lot of the recent gurus on this thread have gone silent because many got their visas and just started school... the ones who didn't get their visas are quietly restrategizing and refiring.

Also, thanks for the info you provided about 2:2 admission to MSc. I really like your spirit... it's great to see that you emailed program coordinators to get to the bottom of the issue... very proactive... I like! smiley

PS: I believe @montrealer is at McGill
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 11:33pm On Sep 28, 2015
This question has been answered over and over in previous pages of this thread, even in this short Part 9! Also, the answer is in Form IMM5832E which I believe you will be submitting with your app (assuming paper route). Read read read! Don't be lazy, no offense. The ability to find information will be critical to your success in Canada.

If after reading IMM5832E, you still don't understand, then come back here to ask a more informed question.

Avalon316:
My biggest fear is that my sponsor's statement of account is 8 days old. I heard that it is better used as soon as it is made available. Should I be worried? And I just started processing the school fees payment . By the time the bank will be be done with their form A wahala,the statement of account would be 14 days old or so.

Guys,help me o.

thesoj
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 8:06pm On Sep 28, 2015
Many of the recent questions on this thread have been repeatedly answered over the last month, including your question about where to find a notary in Lagos. This trend is not good, as it devalues the thread if the same information is repeated every fifteen pages.

In any case, the answer to your question is easy to find. Either use Google to search through this thread, or look through posts from the past month in Part 9.

Do a google search of [notarize document lagos "travelling to canada part 9" site:www.nairaland.com] without the square brackets and the answer is in the first few search results.

No offense intended, it just hurts to see that all the information repeatedly and recently provided on here is not being put to good use. It is discouraging. I'm not trying to start a fight or anything... just stating the facts. Pls don't be offended.

Godymn:
Thanks for the response.
I dont reside in Ibadan. Stay in Lagos...would have loved to get any around Ikeja axis. Between, the one at Ibadan, like how much do they charge?

Will research though....buh please if you know any around Lagos, do let me know.

***Appreciate***
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 7:20am On Sep 28, 2015
Wait for the receipt... the payment deadline is just a few days away... no point rushing to submit your TRV app if you increase your likelihood of denial.
Avalon316:
Hi thesoj,ayooluwatonii

is it compulsory that I include my payment receipt as part of my application documents for visa. My bank said that it will take them 3 days to source for dollars for me(form A route). Deadline for payment from the school is October 5. Do I go on to submit the other documents without waiting for the payment receipt?
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 6:11am On Sep 28, 2015
@domex007, medicine is a second degree in Canada, which means that for the most part you can only apply to medical school after you get your BSc. To find out more, a quick Google search will do you some good.

@kushner, same advice as above to you. Please closely acquaint yourself with Google. smiley

deedee0, lol @ the shoutout. As far as I know, all the info provided in your post is right. @domex007 and @kushner will be able to find the right info quickly with some Google searches... info on medical education in Canada is all online and is very well organized.

deedee0:
...Fresh out from a secondary school in Nigeria, it's not possible to get into medical school in Canada **I stand to be corrected** I know ppl doing programs like BSc Nursing Sci in Canada and intend to get into medical school later.
...
@kushner @domex007
I will call on Baba 5eyes... Thesoj to contribute grin
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 7:16pm On Sep 26, 2015
They probably are enough (particularly if the sponsorship letter or affidavit is notarized), I just prefer to play it safe.
iykedare:
Thanks for your elaborate reply.
As regards the quoted text above,what could these documents be? Are his bank statement and sponsorship not enough?
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 12:31am On Sep 26, 2015
I'm not exactly sure if I know the exact answer. But, any picture is better than no other documentation of the relationship I guess.

Also, your sponsor should state why he is sponsoring you. If he doesn't, I'm afraid you are risking the VO's skepticism. You might wanna redraft the letter (with his authorization) to be what you want, and then have him sign it (he can modify before signing if needed).

Also, since he is not your parent or family member, he should definitely do an Affidavit of Support for you. These VOs know that Naija applicants are full of tricks and you don't want them to think that the "sponsor" will not indeed sponsor you. Many applicants get delayed for this reason.

Further, if you are above 22 years old I'm almost certain that your sponsor's claim that he is your guardian (as the sole reason for sponsorship) will not fly! A grown man does not need a guardian in the eyes of the VO (unless you can prove that as a child he was your legal guardian or adopted parent or maybe godfather... to prove this, you could include any documentation showing that he paid your school fees or other expenses in the past. This would considerably bolster his claim of sponsoring you). In any case, I'd suggest your sponsor make a subtle yet clear and convincing case on why he is sponsoring you.

He could also/alternatively discuss any family connections you guys have and maybe even how he would benefit from sponsoring you (for instance, maybe he has a business that could use your skillset when you come back). He could also talk about a favor your dad or grandpa or anyone did for him, and that he wants to pay it forward (assuming this is truly the case). Have him think of something that is convincing enough of why he wants to sponsor you... I'm sure you know why he wants to sponsor you... just make sure that reason is credibly stated in the letter. Best.

About the passport thingy, its probably not compulsory if you include other documents about your sponsor that directly or indirectly proves his identity.

iykedare:
=thesoj ,montrealer etc

Sup bro,
Please I need your help urgently. My sponsor just indicated in the letter that he is my guardian as the relationship between us. No previous pics of us together but I might have to take one tomorrow. Would there be any issue since he didn't state reasons why he is sponsoring me?

Secondly, is it compulsory that I include the data page of his international passport?
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 5:46pm On Sep 25, 2015
I've responded.

Pinkygrace:
i just sent you a pm.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 4:09pm On Sep 25, 2015
You may go through the links in this post to get started on finding schools and more. If you still feel lost after going through the hyperlinked post, then start reading from page 1 of Part 8, and read at least 100 straight pages. Good things don't always come easy, but you will thank yourself after doing the reading as it will help you gain significant insight into the process. You can come back to ask questions once you are done with the recommended reading.

Also, don't forget that Google is your friend.
remioshy:
Hello Everyone

I want to pursue admission for a graduate program in Canada, any suggestions or signpost me pls.

Thanks
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 3:52pm On Sep 25, 2015
It is totally fine to email different supervisors in the same department, so long as you customized the emails to each recipient.

Have you considered calling any supervisors you strongly would like to do research with. This last-resort approach could also work, but would require you to be really prepared for what to say.

Sjvictor21:
Thank you bro. I believe my emails are quite ok. My fear is, would it be any problem if i send a different mails to supervisors in the same department?
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:12pm On Sep 23, 2015
@sjvictor21
These tips on getting a research supervisor should help you.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:56pm On Sep 22, 2015
@benefe @berexio1
No, having a science background does not require you to stick to science course work for PG. You can go for MSc in Engineering if you want. All you need is to be able to plausibly explain in your SOP to the admissions committee what synergies you see between your science undergrad and proposed research area in the engineering course that you choose.

In fact, it is extremely common for people with science BSc to do MSc in a related engineering field. Lots of physics BSc people do MSc in several engineering areas. Lots of chemistry BSc people do their research MSc in Chemical Engineering, Environmental Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, etc. And the list goes on and on. There are large overlaps between several scientific fields and engineering, don't let the department boundaries limit your research interests, so long as you can justify it. These days a lot of research is interdisciplinary and you should leverage that.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 3:36am On Sep 22, 2015
So sorry to hear that. Pls share your profile (undergad or post-grad? What course? What was ur previous educational course & certificate level & when? What have you been doing since then?) with the house so we can help you. Also, share with the house the list of documents you submitted.

In the mean time, I highly recommend you start reading from page 1 of Part 7 or 8. Don't rush to reapply until you are sure that you know why you were delayed in the first place, otherwise your next app may be delayed again.

temitopede:
i was refused Canada visit visa today based on this}

travel history
purpose of visit
family ties in canada and in country of residence.


please any information as regards how to go about this? cos i plan re-applying on monday
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 2:28am On Sep 22, 2015
Anybody can be your sponsor, but it is up to you to prove said sponsorship to CIC. I would recommend that you think about any documentary evidence that proves that said sponsor has had a relationship with you and your dad for a long time. You should go find old pictures of: him & your dad; him, your dad, and you; and him and you. If you have such pictures, especially ones that are really old (more than ten years old is preferred imho) then this may help establish a pre-existing connection between him and your dad. Yes, data page of his international passport is extremely important as it proves that he is a real person and not fabricated.

Also, see if you can get your hands on any official documents of any dealings (e.g. a business or family relationship...) between him and your dad. You will also need him to credibly explain why exactly he is sponsoring you. Make sure it is a reason that makes solid sense, otherwise CIC won't find it credible. Another thing I'd suggest is for said sponsor to pay one semester or one year of your tuition and attach documentary evidence of the transfer receipt from his account, as well as the tuition payment receipt from the school. This would demonstrate his commitment to funding you. Best of luck.

Also, make an endeavor to read the thread and you will become better at packaging your application. Read large chunks of Parts 5, 6, 7, or 8.
iykedare:
Hi thesoj, My sponsor is my dad's friend. Hope that won't be a problem. How do we prove our relationship? Does he need to supply me with data page of his international passport? In general,what do I get from him?
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj:
Bros, I would highly recommend that you go back and critically read at least 200 pages of Part 7 or Part 8. This would do you a lot of good particularly since your application is complex. Please don't be lazy (no offense intended), you need to do this for yourself. All of the questions you are asking have been repeatedly answered on this thread over and over and over. See below for my responses to your present questions.

Sammypraise:
1. Travel history(I have never travelled abroad before, how do I defend this?, I have only travelled to Ghana couple of times through seme over 10 years ago?)
2.Family ties in Canada and in your country of residence(pls how do I prove this?)
These two issues normally go with Purpose of Visit so I suggest you don't focus excessively on them.

Sammypraise:
3. purpose of visit.(Is it the same as SOP or LOE)
This is the main issue that you should focus on. The visa officer is not convinced of your purpose of visit to Canada. In your case specifically, it is likely that the VO is not convinced that you are a genuine student, given your peculiar education and employment history, and given that you are a BSc applicant who finished secondary school fifteen years or so ago. This is why I in a previous post suggested you write a statement of purpose (aka SOP or LOE or whatever you want to call it) to clearly and convincingly clarify your story to the VO.

Sammypraise:
4.personal asset and financial status(My sponsor is not a close relative, he just agreed to be my sponsor with SOA=17M, Does it realy matter?)
Given that you haven't convinced the VO of your purpose of visit, the VO feels that you have insufficient personal assets and financial status to come back to in Naija. This has absolutely nothing to do with your sponsor. This denial reason is also closely related to the VO's skepticism about your purpose of visit. Given that you have been working for some years already, the VO expects to see some assets of your own... but a good SOP can mitigate this issue a bit.

Sammypraise:
5.Someone said to me that I was refused because I failed my medical but If I failed medical I suppose the CIC should specify, would it be necessary to run another medical test or I should use the previous one since it last for 1 year ?
Absolutely not true. The embassy would have notified you if that were the case. In the last 100 pages of Part 8, you will see that CIC now calls people for medicals even without having approved their application already. You don't have to redo medicals, use the same one.

Sammypraise:
6. @ Favour, thesoj: in your last comment, you talked about the study leave letter 4 four years, if they might find it hard to believe? should I remove it in the next application?
My guy, think think think (no offense intended). Is a study leave of 4 years credible given that you have only worked at the company for 2-3 years? The decision is yours.

My chief recommendation is that you read the whole of either Part 7 or Part 8. You need to be very strategic in your re-application. If you apply again without having fully fixed most of your issues in your previous application, then you likely will be denied again. The best course of action is for you to patiently repackage, even if this means deferring your admission until you are ready.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 4:56pm On Sep 19, 2015
There's space to state prior visa denials in one of the CIC forms. The question about visa denials from any country is at the bottom of said form.

sholay2011:
Woah! You mean I am actually expected to state that I have been denied by the US? And where would I even state that (SOP?) 'cos it's not like there is a special column for that?

O ga ooo.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:21am On Sep 19, 2015
Read the last 40 pages at which point you will get an OK initial insight. You may also go through the links in this post to get started on finding schools and more. If you still feel lost after the above recommended reading, then start reading from page 1 of Part 8, and read at least 100 straight pages. Good things don't always come easy, but you will thank yourself after doing the reading as it will help you gain significant insight into the process.

Also, you are welcome to come back and ask specific questions after doing all the above reading. In addition, don't forget that Google is your friend smiley
FASHYLEE:
Pls I'm new in here, cn any good heart person volunteer to put me through working and studying in Canada universities? I will b glad if any1 can. Thanks
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 8:27am On Sep 19, 2015
I'll try but I can't guarantee it. I'll encourage you to be patient though, unless you are already sure that your SOP is in top notch quality.

mine42:
Thanks u so very much o.
Planning to submit my application next week.
Could you do it in a week less?
Many thanks.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 4:35am On Sep 19, 2015
@meko007 Yes they automatically exchange information when you apply to either embassy. Don't even think about withholding this information. See this and this.

@sholay2011 glad you got your TRV without stating your prior US denial. smiley This is often grounds for getting an application denied.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:05pm On Sep 18, 2015
I can help you proofread it if you are willing to wait up to a week and half.

mine42:
All the Gurus in the house, help your brother now. Abeg o. Someone shld pls respond now.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 9:20pm On Sep 18, 2015
Hey bros, you don't need anybody else's format. Just tell your own story of why you are going for a BSc in light of your prior education and employment trajectory. View the links in this post and you will see sample SOPs, just make sure you don't copy any part of another person's SOP as this is plagiarism. Your SOP will have to be different from any other person's in order to adequately address your own peculiar situation.

Once you write a rough draft, you can contact someone on this thread to give you suggestions on how to improve it.

Sammypraise:
@thesoj
am so grateful sir....
thanks for all this clues:
sincerely, i would like you to send me a format of this SOP letter, in dont even know how it looks like or the format i could use,,,
please and please...
my email is : spraize@yahoo.com
thanks alot sir.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 6:22pm On Sep 18, 2015
What exactly do you mean by Canada processing period? What are you trying to get done?

bigwig10:
Pls NLs,want to confirm if the canada processing period is still within the 10-15 working days or the policy have changed? Thanks
Urgent response Any Guru Pls
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 5:44pm On Sep 18, 2015
My advice is that you shouldn't pick a school based on availability of January admission. Pick a school that would be a good fit for you.

Also, trying to get a January admission might be futile because it is extremely unlikely that you would be able to get both admission and TRV before January. MSc admission decisions may take about 6 weeks (or more) while TRV takes 8 weeks on average, that's 14 weeks! We only have 14 weeks left in the year, and I haven't even accounted for the time it would take you to prepare your application to a school or the preparation time for your TRV app to CIC. My guy, think think think and plan plan plan. smiley

I recommend you consider applying for May or September admission instead, and pick a school based on if it is a good fit for you not just based on application deadlines. You will thank yourself in the future for this. In this post you will find links to search for schools and more.

ganiyuadeoye:
Hello guys....@thesoj, your experience is highly needed once again.
Please does anyone in the house know any Canadian school that there January MSC admission is still open? I mean i can still meet up with there January application by applying between Now and next month.
Thanks for your wonderful response so far.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 5:16pm On Sep 18, 2015
@Sammypraise
Bros, after reading through your responses. I realize that there's a number of things you need to address in your next application.

a) You did not state your 2002-2005 job. This leads me to conclude that you had an unexplained gap from 2002-2005 in your application. This alone is likely to raise questions in the mind of the VO. You can't leave this period blank and unexplained. Figure out something. I still can't understand why you decided to omit the 2006-2008 certificate. In any case, you absolutely need to write an SOP to explain to the VO your peculiar educational trajectory.

b) Between 2009 and now, you have been working. You need to describe in your SOP how these two jobs have influenced your decision to pursue a BSc in Kinesiology.

c) You finished your secondary school more than fifteen years ago. This raises many unanswered questions to the VO: why didn't this applicant do a BSc in the >fifteen years since he finished secondary school? Why is this applicant wanting to do a BSc in Canada? Why now?

Bros, you need to write a strong SOP to reconcile your educational and employment trajectory with your decision to now pursue a BSc. Also, the SOP will need to address why you have specifically chosen Canada when in the last >fifteen years you could have chosen to go to another country to do a BSc in, including Nigeria. Your previous application was likely denied because the VO was not convinced that you are a genuine student. The burden of proof is on you to convince CIC that you are a genuine student, this is why it would be extremely important for you to write a comprehensive and convincing SOP to address all the issues stated. Best.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 3:46pm On Sep 18, 2015
So true. I just noticed that too once you brought attention to it. @Sammypraise

favour0011:
I think sometimes, one or two documents we submit could discredit our entire application. You submitted a study leave letter to go for a ug course. That could have been counter productive except you could give a Gud reason why your employer should grant you a study leave for 4 years.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 3:44pm On Sep 18, 2015
@ganiyuadeoye Keep it to two pages. Keep all the contents concise. You can include everything and still have it at two pages. You need to remove any extraneous words or sentences. Anything more than two pages may not be read by whoever evaluates your application.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 2:57am On Sep 18, 2015
Sammypraise:
1)i graduated from school, 2002(diploma in intergrated science)
This is vague. What kind of school? What kind of diploma? OND? Pre-degree diploma? What year did you finish secondary school?

Sammypraise:
2)between 2002-2005 i was working
What kind of job? Did you state it in the application? (for privacy, don't say the company name... descriptive job title is ok)

Sammypraise:
3)2006-2008---i read a course in college of health and i obtained environmental health asst. certificate.{ but i did not include this certificate in the application}
What is the level of the certificate? OND? Below OND? Also, why did you not include it in the application? In addition, what did you write that you were doing during this period?

Sammypraise:
4)since 2009, i have been working.
5)my present employment started since 2012
In each case, what kind of job?

Please be specific in your responses, so far it has been difficult to give you an opinion because your responses have not been precise. In any case, an SOP is strongly required in your case. An SOP would enable you to help the VO make sense of your unique educational history and study gaps. Also, an SOP would be an opportunity for you to explain how your educational trajectory has led you to pursue a BSc (?) in Kinesiology in Canada. This is extremely critical for candidates like you who finished secondary school a long time ago... this would help reduce the chances of the VO seeing you as a desperate applicant. I can provide more specific commentary once you answer the above questions.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 12:06am On Sep 18, 2015
Please organize the text of your response clearly, I still don't understand if you are UG or PG. Either way, when did you obtain your last education qualification and what have you been doing since then? It is difficult to give you an informed opinion if you don't answer these questions.

Yes, you can re-apply whenever you want. But I'd recommend you don't re-apply unless you address all issues the embassy had with your previous application.
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TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 9:31pm On Sep 17, 2015
Welcome! You have a lot of reading to catch up on. smiley Read the whole of Part 8 and you will become a guru real quick.
otitojuexter:
Hi guys,i'm new here.

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