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frank317:
I am telling u why I think Christians claim to stick to a god who has seemingly gotten it wrong from the beginning and u respond like a woman in labour... Did I say u mentioned hell?

Christians or people like yourself. Its your thought though. Not the reality.

If I can't believe someone I can't believe God? Is this what u have reduced God to?
How did the God u saw look like? What message did he send u... Stop lying to make ur fake God look real when he is clearly nothing but a figment of ur imagination.

Telling you any of this will only make you feel more miserable. I won't make what is real look real. He is fake to you but real to me. Am still wondering how something that doesn't exist still be fake at the same time.

LordReed:
Dude I am done arguing with you over this. You are free to interpret your fairytale any way You wish.

You seem upset. You don't have to answer if you have no point to back your argument.

The bible is a fairytale to an unbeliever so it is wrong for you to call it my fairytale. It is a fairytale to you and not to me. A fairytale you are so much obsessed with that you run to topics with it as reference to castigate those who believe in it.

frank317:
That's it bro...I have seen many many Christians... They are only happy to be Christians because they think they have escaped hell. Remember this quote? "I'd rather live my live believing in God so the if I die and he is real, I have nothing to lose..." U can complete it.
The fact is that there is nothing special about being a Christian. Many of them still reach out to me for help. They are just average beings whose success is dependant on hard work and luck just like me an unbeliever. Instead they fast, pray, tithe, only to come back and struggle through life like any other person. The only thing that gives them peace of mind is after life promises. No God to even show for their whole hypothetical holy holy life.
They resort to threat of death and hell if they see u don't believe, what else do they have. My brother leave that thing.

I haven't mentioned hell or punishment. Don't be too obsessed with it.

U have seen God? In what form did he appear to u, how did he look like?
What kind of message did u receive from him pls. What message did the creator of this world send to u, he cannot even tell u the cure for HIV.. Abeg we are not here to joke jare.

If you can't believe someone,you can't believe God. HIV too. You can't blackmail for help.

LordReed:
Yeah, that's why he said My Lord not my lords. You are too dumb.

So the person with the "My Lord" attribute was not among the "three men" he met or are you saying the three men were one?

LordReed:
You are so funny. You vociferously argued that god did not appear to Abraham but had to recant when it was proved to you. Now you say it is in human form. God should appear it that form now so all men can see. But of course you'll come back with some inane reason why its not possible.

As for insect legs I brought it up to show you your fairytale is not infallible. A work inspired by the creator of the universe that doesn't know that insects have 6 legs is a work of ignorance. A god inspired work that doesn't know hares aren't ruminants is the work of unlearned shepherds using their experience with sheep and goats to judge their world.

There's nothing divine in this ignorance filled work.

Genesis 18
1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

I don't know what you are seeing.

frank317:
Ya... A lot of people believe even when there is no. They believe because of fear or indoctrination. I used to believe too u know. So I know how u feel.

That you were afraid of God doesn't mean others were too. Your fears must have originated from messages of condemnation and hell. It's not what every one hears. I heard messages of the saving grace of God in Christ Jesus.

And this is how the Almighty expects to be known? How does it even make sense to u

I have seen Him. I have received messages from Him. Don't be jealous please. It's just part of my heritage to see and hear from Him. I enjoy fellowships with Him.

frank317:
I have nothing to challenge u with yet...was just following the conversation and and it confirmed my thoughts... Gods not real
Nah I am not dumb...

That's your opinion and belief. It's not everyone else's opinion or belief.

So Abraham called the man form LORD and spoke with him like he was talking directly with God?
That's by the way... What stops God from appearing in any form now... Why has he suddenly maintained his spirit stance. Now is even the time that he needs to appear so that we can snap a pix with him... Is he camera shy?

God didn't appear to every one in Israel or in the bible and neither did He perform any public show of self. He appeared to some people with an assignment or a message.

Unfortunately he has not appeared in any form for a long long time... Just in the bible. Are we expected to believe that?

Even if He appear to your brother, you wouldn't believe because he is not you. Even if He appear to you, you won't recognize Him because you must have faith to see Him.

Nah... He only brought the issue of insect to further show u have inconsistent and ignorant the bible and its writers were.
He was through with showing u that God appeared to Abraham and Abraham called him Lord(u can choose to believe it was in a human form, cool... Let him appear in a human form now) so he took a step further to reveal more fallacies... Give it up man... The bible is dumb

I have seen Ministers been addressed as Mr. President because they are representing the president in that function. Abraham knew who he was talking to. God is not out to please you frank317.

frank317:
Lordreed, u messed this guy up and he ran away. Na so them de claim over sabi... Look at how he made a fool of himself.
First he asked how capitalizing letters in a word changes the word, but when u showed him how, he quickly changed mouth and tries to twist things..
Then u showed him how insects didn't have four legs and he bailed before disgracing himself further...

This was a fuxking hilarious read

So what do you want to challenge me with? Or you are so dumb that you can only hid behind someone's argument.

Your lordreed quoted the scripture to prove that God appeared to Abraham and should also appear to individuals physically in the present age but refused to acknowledge that God appeared to Abraham in Human form and not His real form. I remember mentioning the burning bush in the case of Moses but the scripture never portrayed God as a burning bush. God choses the best form and medium to appear to His people and dream is one of them. I won't continue to argue with you on this.

You want to talk about digressing from the topic? Who brought the issue of four legged insect to the discussion. If he wasn't caught, would he had brought that up. The scripture remains infallible.

lebuhsi:
you get sense so?....borri camp in portharcourt with thousand of soliders there is for what?...continue spreading fake news...there is God

If you had considered that one of the contenders for presidential flag bearer of PDP is from the state, you would have given your senses some jerk before commenting.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Mr Man shut ur trap up

Stop displaying ur stupidity and ignorance here.

what if ur so called friend is lying or he is one of those Buhari BMC goons trying to use propaganda on PDP and it's convention??

Your Ignorance has no cure. Aligning your self with apolitical party has affected your reasoning. What will be my gain if the act was for Buhari, APC or PDPs gain. If you can't spot a problem,you can't fix a problem. Zombie.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Total BULLSHIT.

I don't know why mods will just be allowing all these trash on NL.

No source, No pictures. Just because ur nonsense soldier friend told u.

mtcheeew.

Really. Why don't you go to any military check point and try taking picture. Your ignorance has no cure.

FriendNG:
Mai Shayi news. My soldier friend told me

He was complaining about the development to me. And what do you even mean. Can't your friend be a soldier.

arewafederation:
Let me get confirmation before I make my comments.

But you didn't get confirmation before tagging me one of the idiots. Your confirmation is for your own consumption.

arewafederation:
Idiots like you are the reason for the advocacy of social media censorship.

If this turns out to be true, what will you tag the Nigerian Army.

SamuelAnyawu:
Them go bring soldiers from Jos just because of PDP Primaries?

When a very big barracks dey


OP bikiaful

I don't tell tales. Check my profile.

Shelumiel:
Source please

My soldier friend and former colleague told me this.

Not less than 7 hilux van has been filled with soldiers posted in Jos Metropolis left for Portharcourt for the PDP National convention slated today in Portharcourt which is billed to produce the presidential flag bearer of the Party.

Not withstanding the crisis going on in Plateau state, the military seem to be convinced that they have more than enough manpower to curb insurgence after it deployed some of it manpower to Portharcourt

In the political space, most people vote out of sentiment.

Not for Nigerian roads

Nice

Government wants more money to spend.

Good

LordReed:
LMFAO! Chei see mental gymnastics o! You must have failed integrated science in JSCE. LoL! In what world do grasshoppers have 4 legs? LMFAO!

Included a screenshot since your dumb brain can't google a thing. LMFAO!

Insects has Six Legs. I just saw that. I never bothered to care about how many legs an insect has. I wouldn't want to justify the Scriptures by saying that it was written Thousands of years ago and, maybe, insects had four legs then. But I understand the message.

I also leant that sardines are unclean and shouldn't be eaten. It must be the reason some scientists think fish eats your brain instead of improving your brain.

LordReed:
LoL! I am not surprised but as you suggested here is NIV and NKJV.

Falsehood runs in every specs of yours life really.

The Scripture never said all insects are all four legged but that all insects that walks on all four legs should be considered an abomination except some few which were mentioned there. The Grasshopper, Locust and the others that were mentioned all have four legs. What is confusing or inappropriate there.

LordReed:
Lev. 11, be instructed more in the mistakes that your infallible god made. LMFAO!

You mean verse 21? I saw nothing wrong with it. Try other translation to solve your curiosity.

LordReed:
LoL! Yeah infallible god that doesn't know insects are not 4 legged. LMFAO!

God can choose to appear to his elects in Human form, as a burning bush, as Mickey mouse or which ever form He want even though those were not his nature. The most interesting thing is that the elects always recognizes Him. But the dammed will keep reasoning things out with their shallow mind.

You can still steer me towards this 4 legged insect story of yours let me see what I can be taught by it.

LordReed:
LoL! So a non believer thought you something today. Let me show you some more. Your scripture is so perfect it says insects have 4 legs. LMFAO! God doesn't know the number of legs insects have. LMFAO!

I discovered something I never care about knowing. If you hadn't been so Ignorant, I wouldn't have thought about it. So thanks for being ignorant.

The Scriptures remains infallible.

LordReed:
What is clear is you were arguing in bad faith, changing the goal post several times because you want the text to fit your narrative.

Anyway I am not surprised you are confused by the book. Something that lends itself to all manner of interpretations its not surprising at all.

I know what I know. The scriptures is perfect. God choses the best medium/channel to communicate with his people. Abraham saw three men, he recognized the Lord. Lot saw two Angels, he recognized them but the people saw two men.

For someone to say he saw the Lord in his dream, it means he recognized Him. Your thoughts and arguments are of no importance to him.

LordReed:
Why are you changing mouth now? First you accuse me of changing the Scripture now you are revising your own words:


It is only capitalized to attribute higher power or of Devine nature. It means Jehovah/God when written as LORD.

It is written as LORD in all the translations we have showed but you keep arguing. Anyway what is my own, its a fucking fairytale.

The truth is for those who believe. This little argument just revealed something else to me. That in chapter 19, only two angels were mentioned. And they said they were sent by the LORD to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. You don't have to read the Fairy tale.

LordReed:
This is from the NKJV.

Quote verse 3 and 27.

When the bible talks about the men/Angels, it uses LORD because they are representing God. But when Abraham addressed them it was written Lord. Hope you can see my observation.

When a minister represents the president on a function, his words are considered as the words of the president. It applies here too.

LordReed:
No I did not, that's why I posted the link. Here is the screenshot.

See this too. NKJV

The Hebrew translation will solve the argument. I'm not ready to delve into that.

LordReed:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+18&version=KJV&interface=amp

Genesis 18
1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

3 And said, My LORD , if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:

5 And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.

6 And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth.

7 And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it.

8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

9 And they said unto him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.

10 And he said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him.

11 Now Abraham and Sarah were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.

12 Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?

13 And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?

14 Is any thing too hard for the LORD ? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.

15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid. And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh.

16 And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way.

17 And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;

You were saying?

Abraham never addressed them as LORD but Lord. You altered verse 3 and probably verse 27 where Abraham was addressing his guests to suite your lie. Perhaps, you didn't see the modification in my previous argument.

Genesis 18
3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes: